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Fall Out Boy
20 Feb 2004, 16:00
Sri Lanka (probable) 1 Sanath Jayasuriya, 2 Romesh Kaluwitharana (wk), 3 Marvan Atapattu (capt), 4 Kumar Sangakkara, 5 Mahela Jayawardene, 6 Tillakaratne Dilshan, 7 Upul Chandana, 8 Kumar Dharmasena, 9 Chaminda Vaas, 10 Nuwan Kulasekera, 11 Muttiah Muralitharan.

Australia (probable) 1 Adam Gilchrist (wk), 2 Matthew Hayden, 3 Ricky Ponting (capt), 4 Damien Martyn, 5 Andrew Symonds, 6 Michael Clarke, 7 Michael Bevan, 8 Ian Harvey, 9 Brad Hogg, 10 Brett Lee, 11 Jason Gillespie

Had hoped to see Kasprowicz get a run, but i suppose Hogg should be there instead.

Russian
20 Feb 2004, 16:44
Are they the cricinfo teams from yesterday's article?

Either Harvey or Hogg IMO. Williams, Lee, Gillespie should always play. Would like Katich instead of Martyn too but we all no that aint gonna happen.

ThePope
20 Feb 2004, 16:48
Originally posted by phatandphreaky
Australia (probable) 1 Adam Gilchrist (wk), 2 Matthew Hayden, 3 Ricky Ponting (capt), 4 Damien Martyn, 5 Andrew Symonds, 6 Michael Clarke, 7 Michael Bevan, 8 Ian Harvey, 9 Brad Hogg, 10 Brett Lee, 11 Jason Gillespie

Had hoped to see Kasprowicz get a run, but i suppose Hogg should be there instead.
Surely Willo is ahead of both Hogg and Kasper... or does he bowl with the wrong arm again? If I was more of a believer in recent form over long term form, I'd even push for Willo over Dizzy or Lee! Harvey is another who could become easy pickings on the slow SL pitches.

My preferred XI
1 Adam Gilchrist (wk), 2 Matthew Hayden, 3 Ricky Ponting (capt), 4 Damien Martyn, 5 Andrew Symonds, 6 Michael Clarke, 7 Michael Bevan, 8 Brad Hogg, 9 Brett Lee, 10 Brad Williams, 11 Jason Gillespie

Hogg gets 1 game to see if he can still bamboozle them with his chinamen... otherwise it's back to Harvey.

ThePope
20 Feb 2004, 17:25
I got the team right
[pat on back]
:D
[/pat on back]
Got the order slightly wrong, but still reckon Willo should bat higher than Dizzy... he's a slogger who should go out there with the knowledge that if he gets 20 off 10 then there still is Dizzy to block out the 50 overs if there's a batsman left at the other end.

We won the toss and will bat.

Fall Out Boy
20 Feb 2004, 17:52
Originally posted by ThePope
Surely Willo is ahead of both Hogg and Kasper... or does he bowl with the wrong arm again?

A) Hogg is a spinner, i hear spinners are handy in Sri Lanka.

B) Kasprowicz has a rather decent record in these conditions.

Fall Out Boy
20 Feb 2004, 17:53
0-30 after 5 overs.

Good scoring rate, without taking any risks.

ThePope
20 Feb 2004, 18:03
5.5 Kulasekara to Gilchrist, FOUR, slower delivery. Gilchrist picks it and launches it over the bowlers head. one bounce and over the boundary
5.6 Kulasekara to Gilchrist, no run, pitched up and defends on off side

Dharmasena comes on to bowl
Gilchrist looking a little ill, but will continue
Probably annoyed that he had to defend a ball!
Haddin is probably looking a bit happier at the moment!

And Phat... I'm glad for Willo's sake that the selectors thought like I did... now he has to deliver the goods. I can't see Harvey being out for more than 2 games.

catattack
20 Feb 2004, 18:10
0/48 in the 10th over.

BT
20 Feb 2004, 18:22
Originally posted by phatandphreaky


B) Kasprowicz has a rather decent record in these conditions.

Agreed.

I'm no huge fan of Kasper but he is a smart bowler, credit where it's due.

Spinners have us tied down a tad.

0/69 ;) 13 ovs

Gilly looking good

BT
20 Feb 2004, 18:25
Just as I say that we tonk 4 boundries! 0/82 off 14. Gilly 51 (45) 8 4's. Hayden 29

Fall Out Boy
20 Feb 2004, 18:26
Originally posted by ThePope


And Phat... I'm glad for Willo's sake that the selectors thought like I did... now he has to deliver the goods.

The teams i posted were straight from Cricinfo, not my thoughts.

crudbucket
20 Feb 2004, 18:26
0-82

The cricket will now take a break, while we have a quick game of darts !:D

Fall Out Boy
20 Feb 2004, 18:28
Twice now i've seen Murali land his back leg outside the line on the edge on the left side of the pitch when delivering.

Do they not enforce the no-ball rule with that line anymore?

Fall Out Boy
20 Feb 2004, 18:29
Originally posted by BT
Agreed.

I'm no huge fan of Kasper but he is a smart bowler, credit where it's due.


I'm not a fan either, but the man has the runs on the board in the sub-continent.

EssJayW
20 Feb 2004, 18:35
Originally posted by phatandphreaky
Twice now i've seen Murali land his back leg outside the line on the edge on the left side of the pitch when delivering.

Do they not enforce the no-ball rule with that line anymore?

How is he bowling. Are they chucking out well?

jozeph
20 Feb 2004, 18:37
Originally posted by BT

I'm no huge fan of Kasper but he is a smart bowler.

I didn't think fast bowlers had any brains at all.

EssJayW
20 Feb 2004, 18:41
Can someone give an estimate of a total which will be defendable?

Fall Out Boy
20 Feb 2004, 18:45
Originally posted by EssJayW
Can someone give an estimate of a total which will be defendable?

Given the fast outfield, 260 is an absolute minimum for us.

Anything over that will be defendable, provided we have some decent bowling.

EssJayW
20 Feb 2004, 18:47
Cheers. Is it a small ground or just your typical dry and fast outfield?

BT
20 Feb 2004, 19:07
Originally posted by EssJayW
Cheers. Is it a small ground or just your typical dry and fast outfield?

Bit of both I'd say. Not huge & fairly dry.

2/123 25th ov

Fall Out Boy
20 Feb 2004, 19:22
Ponting is struggling, bigtime.

Fall Out Boy
20 Feb 2004, 19:31
Run Rate sliding down to nearly 4.50.

Both batsmen have a SR of about 50.

Pedro
20 Feb 2004, 19:51
Martyn going along a bit beter than Ponting atm. (except for that attempt at a reverse sweep off the chucker. Funny stuff)

IceTemple
20 Feb 2004, 19:52
Another soft dismissal by Martyn after getting a start. Out c&c for 27.

It must be tough out there as even Punta is struggling.

lamby29
20 Feb 2004, 19:52
Marto just went out, but I must admit that he looked good against Murali.

Time for some Symonds magic! :)

lamby29
20 Feb 2004, 19:56
You cannot be serious.

Bevan has come out before Roy.

IceTemple
20 Feb 2004, 19:56
Bevan in. Not what the scoring needed! Sure he can accumulate runs but IMO we needed a pinch hitter to boost the score quickly.

Fall Out Boy
20 Feb 2004, 19:59
Originally posted by IceTemple
Bevan in. Not what the scoring needed! Sure he can accumulate runs but IMO we needed a pinch hitter to boost the score quickly.

I can fully understand the decision to send Bevan in.

Imagine the whinging here if Bevan were to come in after 45 overs.

Bring him in now, leave Symonds and Clarke for some late hitting.

Makes sense to me.

Fall Out Boy
20 Feb 2004, 20:00
Originally posted by lamby29
You cannot be serious.

Bevan has come out before Roy.

And if Bevan came in after 45 overs, you guys would be all over him for not playing the big shots.

Can't win.

apollo_creed
20 Feb 2004, 20:02
Memo to Australia.

You have an allocation of 10 wickets every game, they can all be used and no extra runs are provided if a team loses 4 instead of 9.

Bevan coming in when quick runs are desperately needed. Not exactly the smartest option.

Apollo Creed now waiting for Bevan to cut sick.

Pedro
20 Feb 2004, 20:10
4/207. Ponting out for 58. Apparently 203 is the highest previous score at this ground. 8 overs to go. Bevan at about a run a ball atm.

Fall Out Boy
20 Feb 2004, 20:13
Ponting gone, Symonds comes in with plenty of overs to hit out.

I still can't see the problem with Bevan coming in before him, was quite a smart move IMO.

Even if he gets out, Clarke will be at the crease with Symonds in the last few overs, which is the aim.

EssJayW
20 Feb 2004, 20:20
Phat,

You may be fairly close to the mark 4/214 (43.1)

BTW. Good move to bring bevan in. I would bat him at 4.

Fall Out Boy
20 Feb 2004, 20:21
Symonds is hitting them quite well.

We need him there at the end if we want to get over 250.

Pedro
20 Feb 2004, 20:34
Bevan gone for 21. Don't think he had much of a clue against the chucker.

Pedro
20 Feb 2004, 20:37
Hey Phat, that Symonds/Clarke partnership didn't work out too well. Maybe Symonds can belt a few on his own.;)

IceTemple
20 Feb 2004, 20:37
Clarke for a duck. Great delivery but made easier by a guy who walked across his stumps.

Minkus_Swan
20 Feb 2004, 20:45
This last over is an example why Symonds is in the test team. Can't wait for him to come in at 4/400.

lamby29
20 Feb 2004, 20:45
I've said it before and I'll say it again:

Andrew Symonds is the best ODI player in the world.

EssJayW
20 Feb 2004, 20:47
Originally posted by phatandphreaky
Given the fast outfield, 260 is an absolute minimum for us.

Anything over that will be defendable, provided we have some decent bowling.

Phat
Good get. We have 2 runs to play with:D

IceTemple
20 Feb 2004, 20:47
Behind Gilly lamby2.

Pedro
20 Feb 2004, 20:48
Thats bloody fantastic batting from Symonds!! What a star.

6/262. Enough? Hopefully Jayasuriya doesn't get going. Has anyone ver seen 44/50 overs from the spinners? Christ, I hope our part timers dont have to bowl this many.

EssJayW
20 Feb 2004, 20:53
Originally posted by Pedro
Thats bloody fantastic batting from Symonds!! What a star.

6/262. Enough? Hopefully Jayasuriya doesn't get going. Has anyone ver seen 44/50 overs from the spinners? Christ, I hope our part timers dont have to bowl this many.

Yeah whats the go with the pitch. How come Vaas only bowled 3 overs.

JUBJUB
20 Feb 2004, 20:54
Did the band in the crowd ever stop playing ?
Hopefully they'll have learn't a 2nd tune by sundays game.

Pedro
20 Feb 2004, 21:01
Originally posted by EssJayW
Yeah whats the go with the pitch. How come Vaas only bowled 3 overs.

Just typically slow I think. Vaas and the other seamer bowled 6 overs between them.

ViperV10
20 Feb 2004, 21:07
Originally posted by Pedro
Just typically slow I think. Vaas and the other seamer bowled 6 overs between them.

Oh dear......that doesn't fill me with much confidence. BLee needs to be at the top of his game tonight, we really need an awesome bowling performance from him.

Rough_Edges
20 Feb 2004, 21:09
How good is that batting! 266 wasn't it? Really good to see symonds going at it again! Gilhrist amazing again! CLarke out for a duck :( But he's due for one!

Well done Ausiies!

Pedro
20 Feb 2004, 21:12
Originally posted by GoSainters10
How good is that batting! 266 wasn't it? Really good to see symonds going at it again! Gilhrist amazing again! CLarke out for a duck :( But he's due for one!

Well done Ausiies!

I wouldn't read too much into Clark'es duck. He came in in about the 47-48th over

Minkus_Swan
20 Feb 2004, 21:32
Originally posted by Pedro
I wouldn't read too much into Clark'es duck. He came in in about the 47-48th over

Spot on, it's tough enough facing the best "off spiner" in the world. Let alone trying to pick the top spinner, while trying belt him out the ground.

The Australian right handers should all play a similar technique to Ricky Ponting. His record speaks for itself and he looks very comfortable against him. Martyn plays from the crease and he could fall victim to a few LBW's against him in the tests.

IceTemple
20 Feb 2004, 21:59
Jayasuriya run out of a Brett Lee throw and smart work by Gilly!!

Freo Big Fella
20 Feb 2004, 22:08
India Junior are 2/13:D.

ViperV10
20 Feb 2004, 22:16
3.1 Lee to Atapattu, no run, pushes wide of cover, makes a late decision to run, Ponting hits the stumps direct from cover, Kalu short by about a foot, amazing run out

Brilliant work Punter!

I'm not watching the match...is anyone on here actually watching it?

Pedro
20 Feb 2004, 22:23
Dizzy knocks over Attapatu. 3 for now. Auusies looking good

apollo_creed
20 Feb 2004, 22:25
Originally posted by ViperV10
3.1 Lee to Atapattu, no run, pushes wide of cover, makes a late decision to run, Ponting hits the stumps direct from cover, Kalu short by about a foot, amazing run out

Brilliant work Punter!

I'm not watching the match...is anyone on here actually watching it?

Apollo is.

But Apollo's going to bed anytime time soon.

Gillespie dismissed Attapatu with an absolute gem.

Don't bothr staying up folks, this one's a write off.

lamby29
20 Feb 2004, 22:30
Originally posted by ViperV10
I'm not watching the match...is anyone on here actually watching it?
Yep, Foxtel's coverage has been excellent.

But the game is over. Good night.

GoEagles
20 Feb 2004, 22:59
Last score I got from CricInfo is Sri Lanka 3/58 (14.3 overs) - the game is still alive.

GoEagles
20 Feb 2004, 23:29
Sri Lanka now 3/90 (21 overs) and going along quite nicely.
Australia was 112/1 after 21 overs

Sangakkara and Jayawardene have scored 66 runs from 14.3 overs at a Run Rate of 4.55

Sri Lanka require another 173 runs with 7 wickets and 29.0 overs remaining

rchowell
20 Feb 2004, 23:36
Originally posted by ThePope
Got the order slightly wrong, but still reckon Willo should bat higher than Dizzy... he's a slogger who should go out there with the knowledge that if he gets 20 off 10 then there still is Dizzy to block out the 50 overs if there's a batsman left at the other end.I'd never thought of that, but it's a good theory - I like it!

Thought we did well to get out with 262 in the end. Wasn't so fussed about Marto and Punter going steadily through the middle overs - after the Port Elizabeth debacles I think keeping wickets in hand was the important thing, which we were able to do. Sending Bevo in at 5 was the wrong move though - I hate to say it, but he is quickly becoming baggage that the rest of the middle order is having to lug around. Having said that he is a very handy bloke to have in a crisis and/or run chase. The problem comes when the top order do their job - he sort of gets squeezed out. He must have only come in ahead of Symo because of his ability against spin. An area which neither Symo or Clarke are shrinking violets in either. :confused:

Phat your theory made reasonable sense, but if 45 overs had gone, I would have been happy seeing Brett Lee bumped up the order. At that stage of the innings a 10 off 5 balls or something is useful. In any case, by 45 overs the fielders are right back on the circle so provided Bevan got bat on ball he could be through for one. And on top of that, Symo generally takes about 10 balls to get settled and ready to hit big shots. Clarke doesn't have the same problem admittedly.

Originally posted by IceTemple
Clarke for a duck. Great delivery but made easier by a guy who walked across his stumps.I dunno about anybody else but that sort of thing annoys me sooooooooooo much. I can't for the life of me figure out why batsmen do that. The way Symonds and Clarke batted in that 2nd Final was brilliant - they stood their ground and played each ball on it's merits - often to or over the boundary. I think a lot of players have the wrong mentality going into the final overs. On any sized ground (big ground - plenty of space, little ground - short boundaries), if you get bat on ball every delivery you pretty much guarantee yourself 8 or 9 runs off the over. Minimum. It's common sense really. It's more or less how Bevo has fashioned his entire career (although he is finding it a bit tougher now). And Bevo isn't even what you would call a dashing stroke player either!

Dogwatcher
20 Feb 2004, 23:39
Originally posted by lamby29
But the game is over. Good night.

Far from:
3/108 after 25.
Jayawardene 43/57
Sangakkara 41/68

A good partnership here.

rchowell
20 Feb 2004, 23:46
Yep. Just at the minute it's a perfectly paced run chase. These two are picking off the ones at will. This game is either going to end up like the '96 World Cup Final and we will get a right whooping, or it'll be like Game 1 of the VB Series where India were right on top until Yuvraj was caught at midwicket. One way or the other we need a wicket and fast. At least tonight we don't have Stuart Law fielding at deep midwicket!

rchowell
20 Feb 2004, 23:56
With Sri Lanka 129/3 after 29 overs, Punter has brought Brett Lee back into the attack, obviously with the intent of picking up a wicket. This will most likely be the decisive spell of the match. Lee has 6 overs remaining, with Sangakkara and Jayawardene both on the other side of 50 and looking well set.

muesli
21 Feb 2004, 00:03
Evenly posed, we need a wicket.

muesli
21 Feb 2004, 00:06
3/138 off 32.

rchowell
21 Feb 2004, 00:09
Well his first over went for 7, and he is still wicketless, but Lee has just sent down what could be a crucial maiden in the context of the game. Sri Lanka now require 125 off 18 overs at a rate of 6.94 runs an over. Lee has 6 overs for 25, while Symonds is holding up his end reasonably well - his four overs have gone for just 17 so far. At the crease Sangakkara is 54, while Jayawardene, the more fluent of the pair so far, is 58, and Sri Lanka are 138/3, with drinks on the field (always wanted to say that :p )

rchowell
21 Feb 2004, 00:17
Got 'im! On the back of conceding just 2 runs from the first 4 balls of the 34th over, Brett Lee has claimed the wicket of Kumar Sangakkara, caught behind for 58, and Sri Lanka are now 145/4, needing 118 to win from 97 balls at 7.30 runs per over.

So as the match swings Australia's way again, we may well see the Brett Lee cue put back in the rack for another crack at the death.

muesli
21 Feb 2004, 00:17
KC Sangakkara c Gilchrist b Lee 58 (91b 3x4 0x6)

muesli
21 Feb 2004, 00:20
Symonds to Jayawardene, OUT: pushes forward, gets an inside edge onto the stumps

DPMD Jayawardene b Symonds 61 (91b 5x4 0x6)

Dogwatcher
21 Feb 2004, 00:27
It's all over now. Too big a task. Symonds and Lee have formed a good bowling partnership.

muesli
21 Feb 2004, 00:31
Sri Lanka 157/5 (38.0 ov)

Sri Lanka require another 106 runs with 5 wickets and 12.0 overs remaining

rchowell
21 Feb 2004, 00:33
Originally posted by Dogwatcher
It's all over now. Too big a task. Symonds and Lee have formed a good bowling partnership.Yep. I think that's Rex masquerading as The Fat Lady singing out the back. If Sri Lanka win from here good luck to them. Mind you, South Africa needed 26 off 5 balls earlier today and almost got em!

muesli
21 Feb 2004, 00:37
UDU Chandana lbw b Hogg 9 (13b 0x4 0x6)

Sri Lanka 166/6 (39.2 ov)
Sri Lanka require another 97 runs with 4 wickets and 10.4 overs remaining

This games over

Russian
21 Feb 2004, 00:47
Vaas finally finds that edge he was looking for the whole time he was out there. And now Dharmasena is stumped

2 wickets off the over, Hogg now has 3/41 from 9, 8/170

Russian
21 Feb 2004, 00:52
Kulasekara bowled and Murali will face the Hogg hat trick ball. He already has 3 wickets in 4 balls.

Russian
21 Feb 2004, 00:55
Survives the hat trick ball but not the next one as Lee takes a ripper. 4 wickets in 6 balls and Hogg finishes with 5.

Australia win by 84 runs.

St-KriS
21 Feb 2004, 00:56
Hoggie with the 5 for!

rchowell
21 Feb 2004, 00:57
Missed the hatrick but 4 wickets in 6 balls anyway. How about that though, Sri Lanka lost 7/33 to go from 145/3 to 178 all out. How quickly this game can change.

Kenny_01
21 Feb 2004, 01:59
Hogggga.

Fall Out Boy
21 Feb 2004, 05:43
Excellent win, and a great performance by Hogg (although they were the last 5 wickets).

Glad he came through given i campaigned for him. :D

The selectors screwed up by selecting Williams though. Clearly Harvey would have been more effective on that wicket, as would have been Kasprowicz.

ThePope
21 Feb 2004, 07:46
Originally posted by ThePope
Hogg gets 1 game to see if he can still bamboozle them with his chinamen... otherwise it's back to Harvey.
I know quoting yourself is bad karma... but despite the fact that it was the last 5 batsmen, well done Hoggy!!! Bamboozle was an understatement.
I'm not sure about Willo vs Harvey though... in the warmup game it was
Williams 6 1 24 1 (1w)
Harvey 3 0 22 0 (1nb)

I reckon Willo deserves another chance.

Milenko
21 Feb 2004, 07:52
I'd pick Hogg irrespective of whether Harvey, Williams or whoever else is challenging.

It's Sri Lanka for crying out loud, they always prepare turning wickets and the spinners bowled 44 out of 50 overs. Play him for every one-dayer without hestitation. Not to mention most of the Lankans couldn't pick him last summer.

Fall Out Boy
21 Feb 2004, 07:55
Originally posted by Milenko
I'd pick Hogg irrespective of whether Harvey, Williams or whoever else is challenging.

It's Sri Lanka for crying out loud, they always prepare turning wickets and the spinners bowled 44 out of 50 overs. Play him for every one-dayer without hestitation. Not to mention most of the Lankans couldn't pick him last summer.

No one said Hogg shouldn't be selected.

Fall Out Boy
21 Feb 2004, 07:57
Originally posted by ThePope

I reckon Willo deserves another chance.

And Harvey doesn't?

After all, his past 12 months have superb (better than all bar Lee), and his bowling is clearly suited to these pitches.

Not knocking Williams, but on these pitches, fast bowlers aren't suited.

Cooldude
21 Feb 2004, 10:14
The way some of the Sri Lankans are clueless against Hogg must be encouraging for Warne and Macgill.

rchowell
21 Feb 2004, 14:00
Originally posted by Kenny_01
Hogggga.Surprised he got man of the match. Good on him but the result really was cut and dried by the time he got his wickets. Still there wasn't really a standout man of match. Probably Gilchrist, or Symonds with his 37* and the important wicket of Jayawardene.

Pure genius from Ricky Ponting though. Not so much in bringing Brett Lee back for a second spell in the middle overs - he's done that before, as have many captains before him with their strike bowlers. His genius was giving him an opening spell of only 4 overs, whereas in Australia he was giving him 5, sometimes 6 or 7 overs first up. Had Punter given him 5-7 last night he could only have bowled him for 1 or 2 overs in the middle overs last night, and Lee picked up the wicket of Sangakkara in his 7th over, the 3rd of his spell. No wonder he is the most successful one day captain in history. Spose you could say he more than made up for the decision to bring Bevo in ahead of Symonds and Clarke.

GoEagles
21 Feb 2004, 15:19
Good to see Hoggy back in the wickets. He'd be looking for a big one day series after missing most of the VB games

red+black
21 Feb 2004, 15:39
symonds motm for me, special mention for hogg, a great effort, no matter who he dismissed.

pav_is_god
21 Feb 2004, 16:08
Go Hoggy!!!!

Can't believe I fell asleep and missed his performance, aaaaaaarghh...:(

EagleBlue
21 Feb 2004, 19:33
Originally posted by Cooldude
The way some of the Sri Lankans are clueless against Hogg must be encouraging for Warne and Macgill.

They certainly dont look as comfortable as India, although they dont have their best 3 players of spin playing anymore (DeSilva, Ranatunga and Gurusinghe) Not bagging Hogg but if he can clean up the tail like that, whats Warne going to do. Still think the fast bowlers can make an impact in the test series. Sri Lanka in the past has always given fast bowlers an opportunity early on with the new-ball as their tropical climate is similar in some ways to Brisbane

EagleBlue
21 Feb 2004, 19:57
Another thing I noticed last night. (Well today actually !!!) They obviously dont turn off the stump microphones in Sri Lanka. Not such a bad thing IMO. Especially when The Aussies are bowling :D