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bozza
4 Apr 2004, 21:17
Sticky

UNAVAILABLE
Johns
Laycock
Cupido
M.Johnson
J.Johnson
McVeigh
Henneman
Haynes

TEAM
B: Bullen Fletcher Welsh
HB: Wellman Solomon McPhee
C: Bolton Misiti Ramanauskas
HF: Rioli Lucas Murphy
F: Alvey Lloyd Winderlich
R: Hille Hird Peverill
INT: Walsh Reynolds Allan Dyson
EM: Richards Stanton Mercuri

IN: Welsh, Wellman, Walsh, Dyson
OUT: McVeigh (Hamstring), M.Johnson (Hamstring), Henneman (Hamstring), Mercuri

marcuz
4 Apr 2004, 21:19
Wouldn't mind seeing Dyson get a run for some extra speed against a very quick West coast outfit.

M29
4 Apr 2004, 21:28
Wasn't Watsons injury a 3 week one?

Darealrath
4 Apr 2004, 21:38
Originally posted by marcuz
Wouldn't mind seeing Dyson get a run for some extra speed against a very quick West coast outfit.

See that article on him in the paper last week ? (forget which day sorry).

I'd play Mercuri forward. That's where he belongs. Tell him it's his last chance to perform. Then to Bendigo if he can't get a kick.

lufc618
4 Apr 2004, 21:51
How long are M.Johnson and McVeigh expected to be out for now? :(

marcuz
4 Apr 2004, 21:52
Originally posted by Darealrath
See that article on him in the paper last week ? (forget which day sorry).



That would be this one

Ricky Dyson article (http://www.bomberblitz.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=9906)

Darealrath
4 Apr 2004, 22:07
Originally posted by marcuz
That would be this one

Ricky Dyson article (http://www.bomberblitz.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=9906)

I should have known that would be a stupid question ;)

marcuz
4 Apr 2004, 22:15
Originally posted by Darealrath
I should have known that would be a stupid question

Im riding this kid all the way to the top.

BTW that is a figure of speech, i dont mean that literally:D

Darealrath
4 Apr 2004, 22:23
Originally posted by marcuz
Im riding this kid all the way to the top.

BTW that is a figure of speech, i dont mean that literally:D

"footballer raped" would make a far more interesting headline don't you think...

Pevers-Legend
5 Apr 2004, 09:28
Originally posted by bozza
Sticky

UNAVAILABLE
Johns
Laycock
Cupido
M.Johnson
J.Johnson
McVeigh
Henneman
Haynes

TEAM
B: Bullen Fletcher Welsh
HB: Wellman Solomon McPhee
C: Bolton Watson Ramanauskas
HF: Rioli Lucas Murphy
F: Alvey Lloyd Winderlich
R: Hille Hird Peverill
INT: Walsh Reynolds Allan Dyson
EM: Richards Misiti Mercuri

IN: Welsh, Wellman, Watson, Walsh, Dyson
OUT: McVeigh (Hamstring), M.Johnson (Hamstring), Henneman (Hamstring), Misiti, Mercuri

If you're telling me you would play Winderlich of Misiti. Well evryone is entitled to their own opinion, but Winderlich is too small, he doesn;t work hard enough, has no confidence at the moment. Essentially, needs game time in the 2s and lots of it. And another pre-season might not go astray.

Mercuri is just hopeless, how many times did he go sideways, how many forward thrusts did he stuff up. Needs to play well next week or he can pss off to the magoos for good. What a waste of talent he has become.

whirl
5 Apr 2004, 09:43
Originally posted by M29
Wasn't Watsons injury a 3 week one?

The club website is saying one more week.

VANDA
5 Apr 2004, 10:12
mercuri is not a backmans bootlace!

bozza
5 Apr 2004, 10:48
Originally posted by Pevers-Legend
If you're telling me you would play Winderlich of Misiti. Well evryone is entitled to their own opinion, but Winderlich is too small, he doesn;t work hard enough, has no confidence at the moment. Essentially, needs game time in the 2s and lots of it. And another pre-season might not go astray.

Winderlich is essentially not getting a game over Misiti. It is because of team balance and structure. Winderlich's problem is that he is being dragged every 10 minutes. He needs to be put in the forward pocket and left there for at least a quarter and a half. Then slowly work him into the midfield as the year progresses.

Essendon cannot afford to have Misiti, Peverill and Watson in the midfield together. They are all slow. Simple logic tells us that Misiti, and maybe Peverill are not going to take us to the top again - so one plays for Bendigo. If Watson doesn't come up this week then I'd have Joey in the side. He is still good enough to make a good contribution off ther bench, but the days of him being in out Top 4 midfielders are over. He lacks speed, presence and penetration.

Pevers-Legend
5 Apr 2004, 12:01
Originally posted by bozza
Winderlich is essentially not getting a game over Misiti. It is because of team balance and structure. Winderlich's problem is that he is being dragged every 10 minutes. He needs to be put in the forward pocket and left there for at least a quarter and a half. Then slowly work him into the midfield as the year progresses.

Essendon cannot afford to have Misiti, Peverill and Watson in the midfield together. They are all slow. Simple logic tells us that Misiti, and maybe Peverill are not going to take us to the top again - so one plays for Bendigo. If Watson doesn't come up this week then I'd have Joey in the side. He is still good enough to make a good contribution off ther bench, but the days of him being in out Top 4 midfielders are over. He lacks speed, presence and penetration.

I understand where winderlich is playing, but simply - he is not ready - I think it is time a different kid is given a crack as he hasn't taken his, even if he is coming off and on, his lack of presence can not go unnoticed.

Unfortunately for us, the best we looked all nightn is when Misiti gets the ball. He is essentially the only midfielder in our team who can kick to position - not 10m too long - or 10m wide of the target, actually out in front of the leading player. I realise with he, watson and peverill we look too slow, but that just means you don;t play them all in the centre at the same time. Anyway, if they get it, it doesn't matter how slow they are as we will ahve the ball.

Hosko
5 Apr 2004, 13:16
B: Mercuri Fletcher Wellman
HB: Welsh McPhee Rioli
C: Winderlich Bullen Ramanauskas
HF: Murphy Lucas Reynolds
F: Alvey Lloyd Richards
R: Hille Hird Peverill
INT: Allan Bolton Misiti + 1 youngsters given form in VFL from last week

Note: Assumes Watson, JJ arent fit

dave_27
5 Apr 2004, 14:39
TEAM
B: Bullen Fletcher Welsh
HB: Wellman Rioli Bolton
C: Solomon McPhee Ramanauskas
HF: Alvey Lucas Murphy
F: Mercuri Lloyd Richards
R: Allan Hird Peverill
INT: Hille Reynolds Misiti Dyson

If Lloyd is suspended then put Lucas at FF and Hille at CHF.

**** Henna off, he's garbage. Richards in to the forward line. Misiti on the bench and Mercs anywhere but defence! Lucas at CHF as I dont think WC have a tall key defender to take Lucas.

Look I think they'll kill us in the centre but I think if we can win our fair share of the ball like round 8 last year where we were severly undermanned against a red hot eagle side at the time then we r not without a very good chance. We have to try and expose their lack of KPP's around the ground.

pazza
5 Apr 2004, 14:41
Hard to have VFL form when we don't until Saturday afternoon!!!

Ins: Wellman (looks like coming up), Dyson, Richards, Hunt, Walsh
Outs: McVeigh, M. Johnson, Henneman (inj), Mercuri, Winderlich

Team:

Backs: Wellman, Fletcher, Dyson
Half-Backs: McPhee, Hunt, Ramanauskas
Centres: Bolton, Murphy, Walsh
Half-Forwards: Rioli, Lucas, Hird
Forwards: Hille, Lloyd, Reynolds
Rucks: Allan, Peverill, Alvey
Interchange: Richards, Bullen, Misiti, Solomon

Emergencies: Mercuri, Winderlich, Stanton

dave_27
5 Apr 2004, 14:46
Originally posted by pazza

Centres: Bolton, Murphy, Walsh


geez pazza i hope u aint on the coaching panel, that midfield is shocking!

pazza
5 Apr 2004, 14:47
Couldn't be any worse than the crap we delivered on Saturday night..who the **** was on Harvey, Ball, Dal Santo....?

dave_27
5 Apr 2004, 14:49
Originally posted by pazza
Couldn't be any worse than the crap we delivered on Saturday night..who the **** was on Harvey, Ball, Dal Santo....?

lol, good point. It seems the saints know how to play Allans tap outs better that we do.

pazza
5 Apr 2004, 15:15
Certainly looked that way!

dougthelegend
5 Apr 2004, 17:00
Originally posted by pazza

Team:

Backs: Wellman, Fletcher, Dyson
Half-Backs: McPhee, Hunt, Ramanauskas
Centres: Bolton, Murphy, Walsh
Half-Forwards: Rioli, Lucas, Hird
Forwards: Hille, Lloyd, Reynolds
Rucks: Allan, Peverill, Alvey
Interchange: Richards, Bullen, Misiti, Solomon

Emergencies: Mercuri, Winderlich, Stanton
1. Swap Dyson with Solomon, sure give dyson a game but solomon deserves the starting position over him,
2. Swap Rama and Bolton, rama may be unfit but he's getting there and still ****s over a fit bolton on the wing, bolton was ok in defence lets leave him there and see how he goes.
3. Is hunt really a chance of getting a game? i don't know anything about his recent form.
4. Can see your reasoning with walsh on the wing, but i'd give winderlich the run there first, at least he's been in the team and hopefully is getting used to playing in the seniors.
Team
B: Bolton Fletcher Solomon
HB: Wellman Hunt* McPhee
C: Rama Bullen Winderlich
HF: Murphy Lucas Rioli
F: Reynolds Lloyd Hille
R: Allan Peverill Hird
IC: Alvey, Dyson, Richards, Misiti

bozza
5 Apr 2004, 18:06
Original side now edited to take into account Watson's absence.

What is the general consensus on the side I posted first? I am hoping to use that one as the "majority rules" side - although somebody has to start it so I am going to do that each week.

bLuEMoOsE
6 Apr 2004, 09:09
UNAVAILABLE
Johns
Laycock
Cupido
M.Johnson
J.Johnson
McVeigh
Henneman
Haynes

TEAM
B: Mercuri Fletcher Welsh
HB: Wellman Lucas Rioli
C: Mcphee Bullen Ramanauskas
HF: Alvey Bolton Murphy
F: Reynolds Lloyd Winderlich
R: Hille Hird Solomon
INT: Walsh Allan Richards
EM: Stanton Dyson

rednugget
6 Apr 2004, 10:50
when is cupido expected back?

we need to kick goals!!

bozza
6 Apr 2004, 12:00
Cupido listed as 2 weeks away.

pazza
6 Apr 2004, 19:38
In light of Lloyd's suspension, I make the change to my team this way:

Out: Lloyd.

Richards from Interchange to Full-Forward

Bradley into Emergencies

In: Winderlich to the bench

Darealrath
6 Apr 2004, 19:42
Put Fletcher full forward. Just for the **** of it Sheeds.

Height in defence vs the eagles isn't such a priority anyway.

bozza
6 Apr 2004, 20:47
Originally posted by Darealrath
Put Fletcher full forward. Just for the **** of it Sheeds.

Height in defence vs the eagles isn't such a priority anyway.

Not a bad idea actually...

bLuEMoOsE
6 Apr 2004, 22:00
would Cartledge be able to play Full Forward or Laycock? (not sure about injuries.

if not Fletcher may be the man though i wouldnt mind seeing Richards thrown in the deep end. If sheedy dares to put Mercuri on phil Metera ill come into the box and break his head open with a rusty can opener.

M29
6 Apr 2004, 22:20
Lloyd, Cupido out...

Where are the ****ing goals going to come from ?!

lufc618
6 Apr 2004, 22:59
Huge forward line problems now with lloyd out. I'd go with teddy richards at full forward. He proved last year against Adelaide that he can kick goals under pressure. Deserves another shot.

rednugget
7 Apr 2004, 09:37
I'd go with Hille or Fletcher at FF. Hird may spend some time there too. One of the worst games for Llyod to miss as West Coast really struggle to stop a good tall forward.

Pevers-Legend
7 Apr 2004, 11:15
lufc618 agree with your sentiments. Look it is quite simple. Either Richards is good enough to play senior footy or he is not. the only way to find out is to give him a shot. Isolate him in the square, but a crumber at his feet (do we even have any aside from Rioli) and give him a crack at it. throw Lucas to CHF and tell Hille that if plays like a girl again, then he can fcuk off to bendigo for a week and cartledge can have a shot.

dannyboy
7 Apr 2004, 14:38
I agee, in that Adelaide game Teddy seemed to play very well one out deep in the foward line, and after that game he was basically given the flick from the team, or put on a foward flank which didnt seem to suit him much.

also agree with pevers about Hille. He needs to clench his teeth and throw his body round a bit.....cos he will hurt blokes.
one other player that is due for some form is Marc Bullen, he needs to lift this week and really hav an impact in the midfield.
Our defence looks good, but as we saw last week, it doesnt matter how many times Rioli and co. rebound of half back if our half foward line is non existant.....maybe play fletcher at CHF, and utilise his long kicking. Im not a fan usually of taking Fletch away from the back line, but desperate times.....

dougthelegend
7 Apr 2004, 16:18
one or both of Lucas and Fletcher should play forward, but it may depend on whether Welly comes up, and who their key tall forward is, they only have a couple of youngsters.
The Team

Welsh Fletcher Solomon
Rioli McPhee Bolton
Alvey Bullen Rama
Richards Lucas Murphy
Winderlich Hille Reynolds
Allan Pev Hird
INT: Wellman, Walsh, Mercuri, Stanton
EM: Bradley (If Welly doesn't come up)
With Wellman in it will allow Fletch to move into the forward line for a couple of quarters, and Hille to give Allan a rest in the ruck. Hird will also play forward at times. I don't think Lloyd is such a huge loss for this game, at least it will give Richards another chance, and Fletch'll be able to float forward at times as they ain't that tall.

Stealth bomber
7 Apr 2004, 16:28
B: Welsh Wellman Solomon
HB: Reynolds McPhee Bullen
C: Murphy Misiti Ramanauskas
HF: Rioli Lucas Bolton
F: Mercuri Fletcher Alvey
R: Allan Hird Peverill
I/C: Hille Richards Winderlich Walsh

EM: Stanton, Bradley, Dyson

IN: Welsh, Wellman, Richards, Walsh
OUT: McVeigh, MJohnson, Henneman, Lloyd (appeal pending)

jivey
8 Apr 2004, 10:11
B: Welsh Hunt Solomon
HB: Bolton Lucas McPhee
C: Murphy Rioli Ramanauskas
HF: Hird Fletcher Reynolds
F: Richards Llyod Alvey
R: Allan Peverill Bullen
I: Mercuri, Hille Winderlich, Misiti, Stanton/walsh/dyson - take your pick tehre all ****

:P

M29
8 Apr 2004, 12:23
Lloydy is back in, and Cousins may be injured.

Still the prospect of Mercs on Sampi scares **** out of me. I can see him kicking a last minute goal for the win.

Fademan77
8 Apr 2004, 14:20
who, mercs? yeah, it'd do wonders for his morale ;)

Actually, WC midfield against our kids...its gonna get messy down back for us!!!

M29
8 Apr 2004, 15:21
Originally posted by Stealth bomber

F: Mercuri Fletcher Alvey


Sorry stealth, I know this was posted before Lloyd was cleared...

But if we line up like that, we'd be smashed.

Stealth bomber
8 Apr 2004, 15:59
Sorry stealth, I know this was posted before Lloyd was cleared...

But if we line up like that, we'd be smashed.


We're gonna get smashed anyway, why not think outside the box? I suppose Alvey could be put on the bench. I couldn't think of anyone else to crumb; we don't have anybody.

Irrelevant now that Lloyd's back anyway.

Pevers-Legend
8 Apr 2004, 17:15
I reckon we will win this. I expected a thumping from Port and a comprehensive loss to St. kilda (they clearly outplayed us). This week I reckon with WC not being able to play away from home that well. We just need to get off to a good start and I reckon we can win a hard fought game - just. 15 points, although Lloyd and Lucas will have to play well up forward (and we know one will, will the leadership man do it as well though)

bozza
8 Apr 2004, 18:13
Good to see Marcuz' man Dyson getting a run.

lufc618
10 Apr 2004, 12:12
Looking forward to seeing how Dyson goes. It's good to see a bit of speed added to the line up. Maybe he could do a tagging role on judd or cousins(if he plays).