1982 Reserves

[The Candy Man]

Just reading Dermott Brereton's book, "Hooked On Football", in which he tells us the half forward line for our 1982 RESERVES team read: Peter Curran, Dermott Brereton, Gary Ablett.

What a line!!! What I wouldn't give to have talent like that running around in the Box Hill Hawks team. Makes you realise the available talent difference between then and now.

I believe football is travelling backwards in that it is not nurturing the talent of tomorrow like it used to. I blame the draft system for this. Keep the salary cap, but give each club an area in which to work so it can develop it's own talent. What do others think?

[andrew coombs]

Nice to hear Dermott has written a book. Not sure he's read one yet.

[The Candy Man]

Originally posted by andrew coombs
Nice to hear Dermott has written a book. Not sure he's read one yet.

This was a book he wrote when he was still playing. He wrote another one called "101 Favourite Football Stories". Actually I have always been impressed by how much of a student of the game Dermott is, both in tactics and in the history of the game.

[Gary Shadforth]

Originally posted by The Candy Man


I believe football is travelling backwards in that it is not nurturing the talent of tomorrow like it used to. I blame the draft system for this. Keep the salary cap, but give each club an area in which to work so it can develop it's own talent. What do others think?

Yes Candy Man football has gone backwards ever since the then VFL did away with the club zone system.

Hawthorn was a power because it dealt with its recruiting zones very well.

I was involved with the system when I was founder and president of an 8 team junior football club in Box Hill for many years and was on the ruling committee of the club's Hawthorn Junior Football League with Hawks recruiting committee chairman Bill Wallace being the junior league's patron.

In the days of only 12 Victorian clubs, the Hawks had very active and adroit recruiting scouts working the zones, some of which were strong junior football areas, a greater portion of the eastern suburbs, Gippsland, most of the Mornington Peninsula, part of the Bendigo and Swan Hill areas. Interstate was open slather for all Victorian clubs with the Hawks doing very well out of Tasmania along with the Saints.

Nowadays it is more of a meat market with players and managers wheeling and dealing as a businessmen - different to yesteryear when clubs' individual zones produced more of a loyal type of junior player generally with eyes only for the club that ruled their local zone - if you get my drift.

[The Fanatic]

Mind you,as a Victorian i didn't hear anyone down here complain when the old VFL went national and effectively pillaged the WAFL and the SANFL. Thus ending the days of big crowds in what are both big Aussie Rules States. They robbed Peter to pay Paul and now we're feeling it as well. Eddie should think of that next time he has a salary cap gripe about his poor hardly done by 'Pies!!

[Davo23]

Originally posted by The Candy Man
Just reading Dermott Brereton's book, "Hooked On Football", in which he tells us the half forward line for our 1982 RESERVES team read: Peter Curran, Dermott Brereton, Gary Ablett.



Also in that team, playing on the wing, was the great Chris Langford

These were just guys aged 18 and 19 years old, and no-one knew who they were, and what they would do in the future.


Davo25

[The Candy Man]

Originally posted by The Fanatic
Mind you,as a Victorian i didn't hear anyone down here complain when the old VFL went national and effectively pillaged the WAFL and the SANFL. Thus ending the days of big crowds in what are both big Aussie Rules States. They robbed Peter to pay Paul and now we're feeling it as well. Eddie should think of that next time he has a salary cap gripe about his poor hardly done by 'Pies!!

That's a fair point, although I do recall 2 VFL clubs voted against the AFL proposal. One was Hawthorn, the other was ..... Collingwood.

As a South Aussie. the one ironic part of footy in the 1980s was the continual reference to Victorian clubs taking "our" players, and yet we saw nothing wrong with bolstering the SANFL with a plethora of recruits from WAFL, Tasmania, and VFA.

We complained about the effect the VFL was having on our competition, and yet turned a blind eye to what we were doing to others.

[feher]

Originally posted by The Candy Man
As a South Aussie. the one ironic part of footy in the 1980s was the continual reference to Victorian clubs taking "our" players ...

that is one thing i never understood about this state (especially from kg and cornes) i mean its not like these players had a gun put to their head, it was their choice to go and play footy in another state ... oh well.

[The Fanatic]

Originally posted by The Candy Man
That's a fair point, although I do recall 2 VFL clubs voted against the AFL proposal. One was Hawthorn, the other was ..... Collingwood.

As a South Aussie. the one ironic part of footy in the 1980s was the continual reference to Victorian clubs taking "our" players, and yet we saw nothing wrong with bolstering the SANFL with a plethora of recruits from WAFL, Tasmania, and VFA.

We complained about the effect the VFL was having on our competition, and yet turned a blind eye to what we were doing to others. You know we'd never hear about that in Victoria though! If Peter Hudson had left Glenorchy for Hawthorn via say..Glenelg,then all we'd hear about is how the big bad Hawks poached a "Bay legend"! From the likes of Cornesy and his cronies,i'm tipping there'd be no reference made to Tassie either! But i guess in all states we're guilty of not looking alot further than our own backyard!! So are they complaining over in S.A. that they got no compensation for Ryan Fitzgerald being poached by Big Brother...?

[The Candy Man]

Originally posted by feher
that is one thing i never understood about this state (especially from kg and cornes) i mean its not like these players had a gun put to their head, it was their choice to go and play footy in another state ... oh well.

It's one of those things I've never understood either. I have always been a South Aussie and followed Norwood. My dad introduced me to VFL and after watching Peter Hudson I became a Hawthorn fan as well, so I had teams in both SA and Vic.

I heard all this nonsense about the big bad Vics, they were the bad guys and we were the good guys. This was perpetuated by our media, and still is today. Perhaps they took a line from westerns on telly where the good guy wore the white hat and the baddie wore the black hat, who knows?

As a teenage lad who could actually think for myself, I looked at all this, saw that Victorians were doing nothing different to what we were doing, and wondered what the hell it was all about.

KG & Cornes are hanging onto this because they love controversy on their talk back radio program. They rely upon people ringing in, and nothing lights up a switchboard in Adelaide quicker than to blame the Vics for something. It doesn't matter if it's true or not, we just blame the Vics for anything that goes wrong.

As I've said many times, it's easily the most embarrassing thing about being South Aussie, this childish attitude of "Kick a Vic".

[The Fanatic]

Originally posted by The Candy Man
It's one of those things I've never understood either. I have always been a South Aussie and followed Norwood. My dad introduced me to VFL and after watching Peter Hudson I became a Hawthorn fan as well, so I had teams in both SA and Vic.

I heard all this nonsense about the big bad Vics, they were the bad guys and we were the good guys. This was perpetuated by our media, and still is today. Perhaps they took a line from westerns on telly where the good guy wore the white hat and the baddie wore the black hat, who knows?

As a teenage lad who could actually think for myself, I looked at all this, saw that Victorians were doing nothing different to what we were doing, and wondered what the hell it was all about.

KG & Cornes are hanging onto this because they love controversy on their talk back radio program. They rely upon people ringing in, and nothing lights up a switchboard in Adelaide quicker than to blame the Vics for something. It doesn't matter if it's true or not, we just blame the Vics for anything that goes wrong.

As I've said many times, it's easily the most embarrassing thing about being South Aussie, this childish attitude of "Kick a Vic". We love it over here Candy! It's like a bit of Kiwi bashing,all harmless fun. I actually know some Crows and Power supporters who,like Cornesy and KG,are very level headed. They've got a chip on both shoulders!! Although i must say your choice of clubs in Norwood is a good one. Always took more than a passing interest in the Redlegs and the magnificent Garry McIntosh from this side of the border. As Yabbie would say,he was a "good driver in heavy traffic". I still miss the Footy Park silence after the Vics won a State game though,and EJ and Knuckles pumping up their respective camps. Doubt we'll see the likes again... Oh well,GO HAWKS!!!

[Yardie]

As someone from WA I personally haven't heard much whinging over here about WA players of the past going to Vic. Seems to be a SA thing. People have go to go where the money is. Anyway all those players used to come back to play SOO and that's when you give it to the Vics.