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Macca19
24 Jun 2001, 18:01
What a weak effort that was today. We have a lot of problems with our side at the moment. I cant believe how loose Carlton was all day today. Especially Whitnall, Camporeale and Bradley.

A few questions need to be answered now:

1) Chad Cornes surely must be close to getting dropped now after another dismal effort

2) Why did Kingsley start on Camporeale? Thank god he got injured as he got belted by Camporeale in the first quarter, got belted by Ratten in the second, and was getting belted by Bradley in the third.

3) Why the hell was Wakelin on the bench for three quarters while Meady let WHitnall run around on his own for that time.

4) Dew is badly out of form, and has played one good game since that Geelong match.

5) We badly need a backup ruckman - however it was unfortunate that Ackland hurt his ankle in the first 5 minutes.

6) Who is better - Lyle or Steinberner?? I cant tell them apart, they are both useless.

7) The main reason we lost this game was Mark Willams pretty inept coaching today.

It often helps if we man up - which is something we never seem to do. Opposition forwards are always 20m away from our defenders, opposition midfields always run riot against us. Its getting very VERY frustrating, when this happens week in week out.
I lost count the amount of times Whitnall was 45-50m away from Mead. Meady decided to do what he wanted while Whitnall was cutting us up in the last half. Our best defender all year was left on the bloody bench for three quarters.
Kingsley - im sick and tired of everyone saying "hes a good player, he was best in the grand final wasnt he?" - WELL WOPPY DOO FOR HIM, he was best in a game that means nothing in the outcome of the season. He has done nothing all year, and ive got no idea why you would put Kingsley - our slackest player manning up wise, on carltons three danger men at parts in the game - Camporeale, Ratten and Bradley. Thank god he did his shoulder, he might want to watch a few videotapes on how to stay within 20m of your player.
Camporeale had 12 possesions and kicked 2 goals while Kingsley was on him, Ratten had 6 touches and kicked 1.1 while kingsley was on him, and Bradley had 4 kicks and a goal in the first 5 minutes of the 3rd quarter - while kingsley was on him.
Just because he won the bloody tuck medal doesnt mean he is a great player, doesnt mean he is out of form, doesnt mean he is untouchable and noone can abuse him. The three players he stood, Campo Rats and Braddles - when kinger was on them, it was their most productive time of the match.

Cornes - well the 3 kicks he had was probably enough to keep him in the side for the next month. Im starting to wonder how bad he really ahs to play before he gets dropped. Poor Lockwood - has one bad game and gets dropped, yet Cornes - who has kicked 1 goal in the last 5 weeks, still gets a game. He has kciekd 6.15 for the year!?!?!?! How crap!!

Thank god for Primus! Another awesome performance by him today. He was so buggered by the time he went off the ground he struggled to make the boundary!

We need to make changes. Get Kingsley out, get Cornes out FOR GOOD,get Steinberner out, put back in Lockwood, Bishop, Guerra or Thurstans, or Murray, and BROGAN, get Deano back in there. Change the side around and get them hungry again. Its really frustrating and annoying seeing teams pound us because we dont bother manning up and half our players were slack.

Onto Williams coaching...why was Nick Stevens in the back pocket for three quarters??? Why was Wakelin - our best defender - on the bench for three quarters while Whitnall and Kouta were carving Meady and and Paxman up. Why was Camporeale tagged from the start?? Why wasnt Dew put up in the forward lines, why was Cornes left on the ground for so long?

It was good to see POulton have a reasonable game back. Guerra can take Kingsleys spot - and do a better job of it, Put Bishop in there somewhere, he is the quickest player in our side, he is 6'4", he can kick goals, he is playing well. Try out Thurstans and get rid of Packo or Meady for a week to keep the m hungry, put Stevens back in the centre where he plays his best, not in a back pocket.

Im thoroughly annoyed at the moment! (if ya cant tell)

maybe im too harsh, but its my opinion and how i feel. Im sick of players getting a game every week just because of their name or reputation, and because they played a good game in the preseason, or a year back.

Santos L Helper
24 Jun 2001, 18:10
Earlier in the year, I got a pasting from my Power bretheren for blasting Williams. Well I hope you now know never to doubt Santos again.
When a team has a game plan, it is usually the sensible thing to have a backup plan or plan B in case the first plan fails. It seems we only have one plan of attack and if it fails, our next option is to just lose. This falls solely on the shoulders of the senior coach.

My plea to Port is, don't throw all our cash at Williams just yet.

Macca19
24 Jun 2001, 20:01
Originally posted by Santos L Helper
Earlier in the year, I got a pasting from my Power bretheren for blasting Williams. Well I hope you now know never to doubt Santos again.
When a team has a game plan, it is usually the sensible thing to have a backup plan or plan B in case the first plan fails. It seems we only have one plan of attack and if it fails, our next option is to just lose. This falls solely on the shoulders of the senior coach.

My plea to Port is, don't throw all our cash at Williams just yet.

agreed. We either have our all out attack fast running plan where he kick 18-19 goals....or we revert to last years gameplan where we chip sidewyas and kick 8 or 9 goals a game, and lose easily.

This is a game we desperatly needed to win to have a crack at the top 4, now we are back in the pack, and another loss will see us fall down to about 7th or 8th.

Port01
25 Jun 2001, 10:53
I think you are taking some of the blame away from the players by going after WIlliams.

They simply didn't run hard enough. Carlton had a spare man in defense much of the time but still had plenty of free players in their F50 much of the game. Port players just didn't run back hard enough, if at all.

Jars458
25 Jun 2001, 14:08
Doesn't take long for the knives to come out does it boys.

Get your moeny on Freo to beat port at $4.85 at Subiaco in two weeks

The Ulitimate humiliation coming up.

Showdwon x could loom as a very important game.

Looking forward to it.

BIG DADDY
25 Jun 2001, 17:00
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jars458
[B]Doesn't take long for the knives to come out does it boys.


Hey Bozo

The only 'Stay-Sharps' to come out will be those heading for the backs of a few of your Gerriatrics....such as Mutly...Chrome Dome...and...Ex Captain Crap (Bicks)

Don't worry mate......we'll be supporting our coach......he will be in the chair for at least a decade more than your poor mans Blighty

Jars458
25 Jun 2001, 17:34
Originally posted by BIG DADDY
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jars458
[B]Doesn't take long for the knives to come out does it boys.


Hey Bozo

The only 'Stay-Sharps' to come out will be those heading for the backs of a few of your Gerriatrics....such as Mutly...Chrome Dome...and...Ex Captain Crap (Bicks)

Don't worry mate......we'll be supporting our coach......he will be in the chair for at least a decade more than your poor mans Blighty

Didn't you read what the omnipresent Macca and Santos had to say

I hope Port do keep Williams for a long time

He's shhit

His brother would be much better

Macca19
25 Jun 2001, 18:56
Originally posted by Jars458


Didn't you read what the omnipresent Macca and Santos had to say

I hope Port do keep Williams for a long time

He's shhit

His brother would be much better

Hes sh!t...ok, ill remember that when he is holding up the premiership cup at the end of the year.
I was dissapointed at some players performances (which seem to be constantly bad at the moment).

Hes sh!t, he has just given Port the best start by any south australian team in history in the AFL. If we make the finals this year, its also something that the crows didnt do. It took the crows 7 years to make 2 finals appearances...if we make it this year, will only take 5 years!

QT
25 Jun 2001, 19:39
3 seasons (1993) to make the finals.

QT
25 Jun 2001, 19:43
Whoops, dont read the above post!!! didnt read it properly


Finals mean **** if you dont win anything!

I dunno what im on about, but you get the point.....

go you ****ing crows!!!!!!!!!

:D

Dont guarentee yaselves yous will make the finals this year, yous have a lot of away games to come.......

Jars458
26 Jun 2001, 10:24
Originally posted by Macca19


Hes sh!t...ok, ill remember that when he is holding up the premiership cup at the end of the year.
I was dissapointed at some players performances (which seem to be constantly bad at the moment).

Hes sh!t, he has just given Port the best start by any south australian team in history in the AFL. If we make the finals this year, its also something that the crows didnt do. It took the crows 7 years to make 2 finals appearances...if we make it this year, will only take 5 years!

LOL - you were the one who said

7) The main reason we lost this game was Mark Willams pretty inept coaching today.

Now as far as your second point, you really are grasping at thin air.

We made the Prelim final in our third year. And we won our frist ever final.

There is no point making the finals if you don't win.


If you guys have a flag in the next ten years it will be a surprise.

You may not even make the finals this year yet.

Why do you keep comparing yourselves to us????

Silly.,

Compare yourself to Freo - they are a team on a similar level

ie seoncd club in a state and clearly the subsiduary club in the State who are there to make up the numbers


The fact that your hero is Scotty Bodges tells me so much about you.


Cheers
Jars

Macca19
26 Jun 2001, 11:36
Originally posted by Jars458


LOL - you were the one who said

7) The main reason we lost this game was Mark Willams pretty inept coaching today.

Now as far as your second point, you really are grasping at thin air.

We made the Prelim final in our third year. And we won our frist ever final.

There is no point making the finals if you don't win.


If you guys have a flag in the next ten years it will be a surprise.

You may not even make the finals this year yet.

Why do you keep comparing yourselves to us????

Silly.,

Compare yourself to Freo - they are a team on a similar level

ie seoncd club in a state and clearly the subsiduary club in the State who are there to make up the numbers


The fact that your hero is Scotty Bodges tells me so much about you.


Cheers
Jars

And why is that?? Because Scotty played for my favourite team. And the fact he won 3 grand finals off his own boot. And the fact he got us into the 96 GF single handedly with the best goal ever. And the fact he broke the SANFL record for goals kicked in a season. And the fact he is a top bloke to talk to. And the fact he is one of hte best forwards in the history of the SANFL.
Whos YOUR hero? You probably dont have one from the eagles, your probably one of those that dropped the SA team like a bag of potatos when the crows came in, then suddenly appeared in 93 for the premiership, then went back into hiding until last years grand final. Wouldnt surprise me.

The fact that you support the Eagles tells me a lot about you.

Yes his coaching ON THE DAY was crap. That doesnt mean i think he is a crap coach, or that i now suddenly want him sacked.

Why do i compare us to the crows?? Well every crow supporter seems to enjoy saying "if you dont win two flags in the fist seven years then we are better than you"...yet we may make our second finals appereance two years before you made your second finals apperance. Yes we havent made it yet (which i stated when i said IF we make it this year), but there is a top chance we can win the grand final as well. Same with plenty of other clubs.

Its a fact...the Power this year have made the best start to an AFL season by a SA club. that is FACT. that is not clutching at straws...its fact. Mark Williams is a top coach...he took us to our first finals series, he has turned our club around from last year being one of the worst sides in the league, to this year having the second best attack in the league. Even if he wins a hattrick of premierships...your the type of person that would still say "he is a crap coach"