best lineup

[franky_mojojo]

What would our best lineup be if we were injury free? Just curios about the pecking order of our KPP.


Matera McDougal Cox
Sampi Gaspar Staker
Wirrupunda Judd Embley
Waters Lynch Nicoski
Hunter Glass Jones
Gardiner Cousins Kerr

Hansen Fletcher Braun Chick

Emg Seaby Jones Butler Chambers

[cartman]

from the backline

waters glass jones (b)

nokoski lynch hunter

butler judd embley

sampi gardiner staker

matera mcdougal gaspar

cox cousins kerr

int braun fletcher seaby wirapunda

emg hansen sellwood adkins jones (r)

[crazzzy_grrl]

Originally posted by cartman
from the backline

waters glass jones (b)

nokoski lynch hunter

butler judd embley

sampi gardiner staker

matera mcdougal gaspar

cox cousins kerr

int braun fletcher seaby wirapunda

emg hansen sellwood adkins jones (r)

I like that team. Now if only we could get all on and fit (like gardiner) and get them playing well

[franky_mojojo]

backilne is still a bit suss. not only are we lacking in accountability but we are also lacking in rebound with wirrupunda on the bench.

[Deegle]

Originally posted by franky_mojojo
backilne is still a bit suss. not only are we lacking in accountability but we are also lacking in rebound with wirrupunda on the bench.

yeah id have wirra on for jones

[jod23]

Our absolute best lineup IMO...

Wirrpunda Glass B.Jones
Nicoski Lynch Chick
Embley Judd Fletcher
Sampi Gaspar Staker
Matera McDougall Cox
Gardiner Cousins Kerr

R.Jones, Braun, Hansen, Butler

Unlucky - Chambers, Hunter, Seaby, Wooden

[94_Eagles]

B: Banfield, Glass, Hunter
HF: Wirrpunda, Lynch, Nicoski
C: Embley, Cousins, Braun
HF: Chick, Hansen, Fletcher
F: Sampi, MacDougall, Matera

Foll: Gardiner, Judd, Kerr

Int: (from :p) Butler, Morrison, Gaspar, Seaby, B. Jones, R. Jones, Cox

[Deegle]

You guys have got to be kidding as gaspar as our CHF, Hansen IMO has overtaken him in terms of talent and work ethic, i think he is a better player as well in all respect to trav

[jess-jess]

it's harder than i thought it would be to come up with a best team, we actually have a bit of depth! If only we could get everyone fit.....

[Thrawn666]

Originally posted by regal_eagle
You guys have got to be kidding as gaspar as our CHF, Hansen IMO has overtaken him in terms of talent and work ethic, i think he is a better player as well in all respect to trav

Gaspar has shown far more than Hansen. Hansen has played a handful of games, yet I think most people realise Gaspar has much more talent than Hansen.

Gaspar's problems lie with staying healthy enough to be out on the park

[Mead]

Assuming we have a clean slate injury-wise at the start of next season, here's what I'd see our rd 1 2005 team being
B: Wirrpunda/Glass/Nicoski
HB:Chick/Lynch/Hunter
C:Fletcher/Cousins/Embley
HF:Sampi/Gardiner/Staker
F:Seaby/McDougall/Matera
R:Cox/Judd/Kerr
Int:Braun/Gaspar/Butler/R.Jones

I think one of the most interesting things next year will be what our midfield looks like. With Butler, Selwood (and Morton!) coming through, the likes of Judd and Cousins will spend a lot more time up forward. and I wouldn't be surprised if Selwood in particular ends up a starting midfielder next year due to his defensive qualities.

[94_Eagles]

If we can keep Judd and stay healthy, 2005 and beyond looks VERY promising.

And I think Hansen has more talent than Gaspar. Although both are bloody injury prone (as are 90% of our big men).

[Streaker]

Originally posted by Mead
Assuming we have a clean slate injury-wise at the start of next season, here's what I'd see our rd 1 2005 team being
B: Wirrpunda/Glass/Nicoski
HB:Chick/Lynch/Hunter
C:Fletcher/Cousins/Embley
HF:Sampi/Gardiner/Staker
F:Seaby/McDougall/Matera
R:Cox/Judd/Kerr
Int:Braun/Gaspar/Butler/R.Jones

I think one of the most interesting things next year will be what our midfield looks like. With Butler, Selwood (and Morton!) coming through, the likes of Judd and Cousins will spend a lot more time up forward. and I wouldn't be surprised if Selwood in particular ends up a starting midfielder next year due to his defensive qualities.

As well as the depth we will have in the midfield with Waters, Nicoski, Selwood, Morton, Chick, Embley, Sampi and Fletcher all rotating through the centre. And then the added depth in the big man dept with Hansen, Beeck, Graham and Johnson all looking likely to take the next step.

2005 is looking good.

[94_Eagles]

In all honesty, how do you think our list holds up against other clubs?

I see Brisbane, Port, Saints, Melbourne ahead of us, with us Equal to Geelong and Freo, and the rest below us.

[jod23]

Originally posted by 94_Eagles
In all honesty, how do you think our list holds up against other clubs?

I see Brisbane, Port, Saints, Melbourne ahead of us, with us Equal to Geelong and Freo, and the rest below us.

Brisbane, Port and the Saints are ahead of us. We are fairly equal with teams like Geelong and Fremantle. Melbourne are too unpredictable, one year they are good, the next they suck. I think we are further along than Essendon and have far better younger players. Sydney is a tough one too but I think we have a better list than them.

Next year will certainly be an interesting one.

[daddy_4_eyes]

Originally posted by jod23
Brisbane, Port and the Saints are ahead of us. We are fairly equal with teams like Geelong and Fremantle. Melbourne are too unpredictable, one year they are good, the next they suck. I think we are further along than Essendon and have far better younger players. Sydney is a tough one too but I think we have a better list than them.

Next year will certainly be an interesting one.

What seperate us from those top 3 is experience. Those team, even the young saints, have had time together to gel. IMO 2005 is looking extremely exciting for us, and 2006 we're a serious shot at the flag.

[Jako]

Originally posted by Mead
Assuming we have a clean slate injury-wise at the start of next season, here's what I'd see our rd 1 2005 team being
B: Wirrpunda/Glass/Nicoski
HB:Chick/Lynch/Hunter
C:Fletcher/Cousins/Embley
HF:Sampi/Gardiner/Staker
F:Seaby/McDougall/Matera
R:Cox/Judd/Kerr
Int:Braun/Gaspar/Butler/R.Jones

I think one of the most interesting things next year will be what our midfield looks like. With Butler, Selwood (and Morton!) coming through, the likes of Judd and Cousins will spend a lot more time up forward. and I wouldn't be surprised if Selwood in particular ends up a starting midfielder next year due to his defensive qualities.

I think your team is the best. I might put B. Jones on the bench instead of R. Jones then Wirra can become part of the midfield rotations.

[franky_mojojo]

Originally posted by Mead
Assuming we have a clean slate injury-wise at the start of next season, here's what I'd see our rd 1 2005 team being
B: Wirrpunda/Glass/Nicoski
HB:Chick/Lynch/Hunter
C:Fletcher/Cousins/Embley
HF:Sampi/Gardiner/Staker
F:Seaby/McDougall/Matera
R:Cox/Judd/Kerr
Int:Braun/Gaspar/Butler/R.Jones

I think one of the most interesting things next year will be what our midfield looks like. With Butler, Selwood (and Morton!) coming through, the likes of Judd and Cousins will spend a lot more time up forward. and I wouldn't be surprised if Selwood in particular ends up a starting midfielder next year due to his defensive qualities.

If Gardiner is fit and well i can't see any reason not to start him in the ruck. He is easily the best tap ruckmen we have, and with Gaspar, Cox, Seaby, McDougal and Staker in our forwardline (all are very good contested marks, except McDougal who continues to improve). With Gardiner as a ruckmen we are a definate top 4 chance.

[Deegle]

Originally posted by franky_mojojo
If Gardiner is fit and well i can't see any reason not to start him in the ruck. He is easily the best tap ruckmen we have, and with Gaspar, Cox, Seaby, McDougal and Staker in our forwardline (all are very good contested marks, except McDougal who continues to improve). With Gardiner as a ruckmen we are a definate top 4 chance.

Injuries mate, as we've discovered the past 2 years, we cant afford to have gardiner not playing, id rather him see out his career at CHF or FF and do it playing fit, then see him dominate in the ruck with pain and discomfort, hes to valuable.

Besides, Dean Cox has become one of the better ruckmans in the league as it is and with the emergence of Seaby, gardiner is no longer a requirement in the ruck.

[jess-jess]

Originally posted by Mead
Assuming we have a clean slate injury-wise at the start of next season, here's what I'd see our rd 1 2005 team being
B: Wirrpunda/Glass/Nicoski
HB:Chick/Lynch/Hunter
C:Fletcher/Cousins/Embley
HF:Sampi/Gardiner/Staker
F:Seaby/McDougall/Matera
R:Cox/Judd/Kerr
Int:Braun/Gaspar/Butler/R.Jones

I think one of the most interesting things next year will be what our midfield looks like. With Butler, Selwood (and Morton!) coming through, the likes of Judd and Cousins will spend a lot more time up forward. and I wouldn't be surprised if Selwood in particular ends up a starting midfielder next year due to his defensive qualities.

i quite like the look of this team too. maybe the only changes Hansen for Gaspar and maybe R. Jones.

Most have left Banners out of their best 22. Does everyone see him as a fringe player next year? Personally i think his impact/presence in the team has been very telling since he's come back and think the team looks a lot more settled with him in it. thoughts?

[larrikin]

Originally posted by regal_eagle
You guys have got to be kidding as gaspar as our CHF, Hansen IMO has overtaken him in terms of talent and work ethic, i think he is a better player as well in all respect to trav
Hansen's played a couple of ok games, but in no way has the talent of Gaspar. Gaspar can actually take a contested mark, a rare thing in footy these days, whereas pretty much all of Hansen's goals have come from roving off McDougall or being open on the rebound.

Not saying I don't like the guy (Hansen), or for that matter rate him, but Gaspar is a lock in our best 18 when fit....

[crazzzy_grrl]

Originally posted by Jako
I think your team is the best. I might put B. Jones on the bench instead of R. Jones then Wirra can become part of the midfield rotations.

I agree, in his first few games B.Jones has shown alot of promise, and R.Jones has been struggling with injury and form all year

[94_Eagles]

Originally posted by larrikin
Hansen's played a couple of ok games, but in no way has the talent of Gaspar. Gaspar can actually take a contested mark, a rare thing in footy these days, whereas pretty much all of Hansen's goals have come from roving off McDougall or being open on the rebound.

Not saying I don't like the guy (Hansen), or for that matter rate him, but Gaspar is a lock in our best 18 when fit....

Gaspar can take a mark, but when he's never on the field, how does that help us?

[Thrawn666]

Originally posted by 94_Eagles
Gaspar can take a mark, but when he's never on the field, how does that help us?

Hence the qualification "When fit"

Talking purely on talent terms here

[94_Eagles]

Originally posted by Thrawn666
Hence the qualification "When fit"

Talking purely on talent terms here

Ok.

I still rate Hansen higher.

[bunsen burner]

B Hunter Glass Nicoski
HB Lynch Polak Waters
C Embley Judd Fletcher
HF Staker Gardiner Sampi
F Matera McDougall Seaby
R Cox Cousins Kerr

I Braun Gaspar Selwood Chick

E Emg Morrison B.Jones Butler Chambers

[Voice of Reason]

No time to work thru' the team, but:

- switch Gardiner to FF, McDougall at CHF
- have to play HFFs who defend the forward 50 (Sampi, lift your game) and
- tough HBFs who can turn defence into attack (perhaps Waters and Hunter, though both need to lift their disposal a notch).

[94_Eagles]

Originally posted by bunsen burner
B Hunter Glass Nicoski
HB Lynch Polak Waters

Someone is getting ahead of themselves...

[bunsen burner]

Originally posted by 94_Eagles
Someone is getting ahead of themselves... Makes us look better though doesn't it? If we got Polak for the loss of Wirra or Sampi, or maybe even Fletcher, we'd be better for it. That team I named would have a lot of potential.