Polak a major Tiger Target

[Supertiger]

Graham Polak wants $300,000 a year from FREO...and FREO doesnt wanna pay it. I can tell you the longer this goes on the more the tigers are interested. Ive heard we're prepared to offer $400,000 for Polak also heard that a star midfielder from another club (under 22yo) who was a Richmond supporter as a kid and whose contract is up at the end of the year is also being earmarked....Youll all want to know who it is...but I aint saying. Lets just wait the next 3-4 months...and then the shyte will really start hitting the fan

PS: Be prepared for some very big names to be leaving Richmond at the end of the season...some very big names!

[tiger of old]

along with probally another 6 clubs would no doubt be in the running for polak.i dont want us to get involved in a bidding war.fair enough he,s a good player but not worth anything over $300 per season.
as for big names leaving punt road.not hard to workout outside of cogs,brown and johnson.those players would be gasper,richo and ottens.


cheers!

[sante]

you better be wrong Supertiger, if Ottens, Gas or Richo is leaving we are screwed. Staff will be our no.1 ruck with Marsh :( our best goalkicker would be Browny who we need in the middle, and one ofn opur best denfenders who is having a really bad year and has only been back from a knee injury for 1 year and 2 weeks. and RICHO would not leave he loves the club and tell us the 22 year old who wants to come here?

[wrennyboy]

Good post super tiger but i just wanna know your source before you start posting allegations. Can you just tell us what team the midfielder is from???

Also for big names who could it be. I can only think of gasper or zantuck who isnt big. really

[sante]

maybe he meant players with big last names :D

[Otto's ladder]

Sante that post was reminiscent of Cairo. Spelling and grammar was sensational.

Iu Looevt itt. (I love it)! Posted like an angry yet curious Richmond diehard.

[nineteen eighty]

Polak at $400k - no thanks
Polak at $300k - no thanks

$250k would be more around the mark...he's yet to really do anything. Lets pray we don't start paying over inflated prices just to get players to the club.

[Coach Required]

Darren Gaspar board !!!


anyway who is this un-named star midfielder from another club, sick of these rumours where ppl dont name names.

what a load of crap

[cairo tiger]

rumours we all love em

[corporal]

Originally posted by nineteen eighty
Polak at $400k - no thanks
Polak at $300k - no thanks

$250k would be more around the mark...he's yet to really do anything. Lets pray we don't start paying over inflated prices just to get players to the club.

Hopefully we can just bump his value up so Freo get screwed ala Gaspar

[wrennyboy]

Well i dunno if this would suit rfc. I know that the players are supposably young but we would have to give up tons even our first round draft picks. That would really suck in a strong draft this year.

Trade Bait:
Fiora
Zantuck
Gasper
Hilton
Houlihan


Re-sign
Hyde
Pettifer
Ottens
Rodan
Blumfield

Keep all youngsters.

Delist:
Fletcher
Marsh

Retire:
D.Kellaway
Rogers

[nineteen eighty]

Trade Bait = everyone. I might be tempted to have Richo, Brown and Coughlan as untouchable but we shouldn't put the blinkers on for anyone. I know this would never happen but would you take Judd for Coughlan? Let's not think that no-one is expendable.

[Tigers_07]

y the hell would they wanna trade Fiora??

[Otto's ladder]

Originally posted by Tigers_07
y the hell would they wanna trade Fiora??

Why wouldn't you. The blokes built like a dandelion.

I know he's only young, and there are others that are worse in our side, but he's far from a gun.

[Tigers_07]

haha :o thats a laugh

[Coach Required]

Its been suggested that Luke Hodge is the under 22 yo star midfielder your not naming supertiger

Is this true?

If so the dawks wont give him up for nothing and is he worth it?

[Weaver]

Originally posted by nineteen eighty
Polak at $400k - no thanks
Polak at $300k - no thanks

$250k would be more around the mark...he's yet to really do anything. Lets pray we don't start paying over inflated prices just to get players to the club.

Minimum wage = $50,000
Minimum match payment : $2150 x 20 = $43,000

So minimum payment for a hack like Fleming is going to be $90k.

On that basis $350k for an elite key position prospect like Polak is about the mark.

[Richmondfan#1]

Originally posted by Coach Required
Its been suggested that Luke Hodge is the under 22 yo star midfielder your not naming supertiger

Is this true?

If so the dawks wont give him up for nothing and is he worth it?

I think it'd be worth chasing Hodge, he seems to have the goods. If this is true.. who could we offer to the Hawks? I don't think a Zantuck would cut it.

[1980GFVideo]

Hodge personifies everything they havent got enough of and that we havent go enough of and they are already talking about making him captain.

He would be the last player they would ever give away but nice to think about.

When people offer up suggestions as to who we could give up in order to get quality they forget to add an audio file of the other team laughing thier head off.

Offering Zantuk for Hodge would give them at least something to laugh at durring what has been a dismal season. If they took that Deal, Don Scott would be in power tommorrow

[Weaver]

Originally posted by Richmondfan#1
I think it'd be worth chasing Hodge, he seems to have the goods. If this is true.. who could we offer to the Hawks? I don't think a Zantuck would cut it.

Tough to work a trade with the Hawks. We both need key position players, we both need pace. Probably far too similar.

Perhaps Tivendale for Hodge would work. They need a wingman and don't have too many left-footers or guys who can carry the ball. They would come out ahead in the short term and us in the long term.

I like -

Zantuck to the Roos for Corey Jones
Tivendale to the Hawks for Luke Hodge
Gaspar to Fremantle for Polak.
Richardson to the Lions for Luke Power and a draft pick.

Younger, more athletic, more talented and the foundation for a good team in 3 years time.

[Weaver]

Originally posted by 1980GFVideo
He would be the last player they would ever give away but nice to think about.


Hodge and Polak would not be given up by their clubs, but if they are out of contract it becomes a different story.

If we finish 2nd last and the Hawks last we would effectively have first pick in the preseason draft and could therefore he could nominate and the Hawks could lose him for nothing.

Wouldn't be surprised if the Hawks try to use the same method to make a big play for Ottens. Everitt will be 31 by the time the new season begins and they could use Spider and Ottens in tandem in the ruck and at FF.

[Coach Required]

Originally posted by 1980GFVideo
Hodge personifies everything they havent got enough of and that we havent go enough of and they are already talking about making him captain.

He would be the last player they would ever give away but nice to think about.

When people offer up suggestions as to who we could give up in order to get quality they forget to add an audio file of the other team laughing thier head off.

Offering Zantuk for Hodge would give them at least something to laugh at durring what has been a dismal season. If they took that Deal, Don Scott would be in power tommorrow

even though I tend to agree with you 1980GF,

what would happen if Hodge wants to come to Richmond and walks out on the hawks and nominates himself into the PSD?

or do the hawks have to leap frog us on the table giving us the power to negoiate?

[heartbroken]

sorry but Polak isnt anywhere near enough being touted as a $300K a year prospect.

I would be suggesting around $200K a year over the next 2 years max. Check out his stats of the afl website. Those stats dont support $300K per year.

[Coach Required]

just on this note:

I think its Millers plan to make us the most hated in the AFL

Brown to Richmond : dogs fans hate us
Solomon attempt, had the bomber fans baying for tigers blood
Hodge to Richmond??? hawks fans will hate us
Polak to Richmond?? Dockers will be in a rage, especially since Connolly told the eagles to not even think about it or WW3 would be on.

I like this Miller guy

bring it on!

[nineteen eighty]

There is no way Hawthorn will give Hodge up for Tivendale. No chance! Hodge is a quality midfielder who will - in years to come - be one of the standouts. Tivendale's greatest asset is his pace...he is not a ball winner. I believe the Hawks would only entertain one player from our list...Coughlan.

Tivendale for Hodge = we can dream

[Weaver]

Originally posted by nineteen eighty
Tivendale for Hodge = we can dream

2 choices.

Hodge for nothing or Hodge for Tivendale. Which do you think they would take?

[Weaver]

Originally posted by nineteen eighty
Tivendale's greatest asset is his pace...he is not a ball winner. I believe the Hawks would only entertain one player from our list...Coughlan.


That is just the point though. They have plenty of ball winners. They are stacked to the rafters with inside midfielders and don't need Coughlan. What they don't have is any pace or running players.

[1980GFVideo]

The only reason he would want to come to Richmond would be either he did support them as a kid

(I doubt that has great pulling power for any player however)

or

if he had close friends at our club or was in dispute with anyone at Hawthorn.

If he walked out on the Hawks and put himself in the PSD then they would get nothing for him and while PA could afford to do it I doubt Hawthorn would.

So Hawthorn would look around for the best compensation for him and there would be other clubs offering up some pretty good trades if that was ever to happen and if we wanted to be in the mix then start bracing yourself for some big names.

Id love to have him but he is a number one draft pick who is living up to his potential.

There would need to be a scandal for him to be allowed to leave.

Does he have his eye on anyones girlfriend down at the club?

[nineteen eighty]

I can't agree with you on that one Weaver. I reckon the Hawks have no ball getters and plenty of wannabe ball getters. IMO this has been one of their shortcomings for many a year. Once upon a time they had Rawlings, Hay etc... covering the spine but no midfield guns to get the ball. Now they have followed the Tiger model and are short on both.

[1980GFVideo]

Originally posted by Weaver
Wouldn't be surprised if the Hawks try to use the same method to make a big play for Ottens.

Also i wouldnt be suprised if Ottens is the most targeted player by other clubs at the end of the year. It will be very interesting to see what we are offered.

[Bojangles17]

Originally posted by sante2003
and tell us the 22 year old who wants to come here?

i CAN REPORT THE FOLLOWING YOUNG FELLAS THAT WERE RICHMOND SUPPORTERS

LUKE HODGE
JAMES BARTELL
DANIEL HARRIS

ID BE HAPPY WITH ANY

[Cuneyt]

Trade Bait:
Fiora
Tivendale
Gasper
Hilton
Blumfield
Chaffey

Re-sign
Hyde
Pettifer
Ottens
Rodan

Delist:
Fletcher
Marsh
Fleming
Houlihan
Nicholls

Retire:
Kellaway
Rogers

[GhostofJimJess]

Originally posted by Cuneyt
Trade Bait:
Fiora - First Round
Tivendale - First Round
Gasper - High First Round
Hilton - Whatever we can get if anything
Blumfield - Whatever we can get if anything
Chaffey - Second Round
Rodan - Whatever we can get if anything
Zantuck - Second Round
Bowden - First Round
A Kellaway - First Round
Richo - High First Round (The most contentious, but I'm convinced)

Obviously they can't all go (or can they ?!) ... but these are our choice cuts nonetheless


Re-sign
Hyde
Pettifer
Ottens
Staff


Delist:
Fletcher
Marsh
Houlihan
Nicholls


Retire:
D. Kellaway
Rogers

[tiger of old]

hodge has learnt from sheedy.:D

cheers!

[DirtyDogTiger]

Targets?

Speed
Pace
Hard runners

i don't know...Hodge? they don't say he's quick.

We can only afford 2 slows(Cambo, Johnno) really

I'd treat the next one like a Windies tour and select 4 quicks.

[Supertiger]

It is true that Hodge was a Richmond supporter as a kid but i wont confirm that he is the player... suffice to say that if the tigers are considering major plays for both Polak and Hodge (if he is the player) then 1 will be taken in the PSD and will cost us nothing all depends however on us finishing bottom or second bottom.

I think Weaver also said the Hawks would target Ottens. This is already happening. Thats why its seriously possible that we may be targetting a gig name hawks midfielder....as they say...an eye for an eye.

Im terms of Polak...my info is that the tigers think hes going to become a great player...worth every cent they pay. Look for Gaspar and one other player and a second round pick to be thrown into the mix here! Sounds like alot ...but the truth is ... the club knows its got to much crap on its list and its going to work really hard to get some of it...of the list!

[tiger of old]

imo all this talk about hodge and ottens is just another rumour with no substance apart from 2 players coming out of contract at the end of the year.
why would ottens go to hawthorn who are in a similar position to us when he would have a choice of either SA sides or a ess,stk,coll why would hodge want to come to richmond apart from him being a former tiger supporter? and the same reason as ottens.

the only one that is more or less in the pipeline is polak and i know west coast will outbid us without a problem.

cheers!

[1980]

I'll take bets that Ottens and Gaspar will be playing their football much further west than Melb next year. Ottens by his own choice, Gaspar as trade bait.

Someone's also been in my ear abt Brisbane watching Richo every week and see him as the man to replace Lynch and feel that RFC are open to trading for him. The word around the clubs is that RFC need to reduce player payments and are open for business and no player is untouchable.

Very interesting post season ahead.

[CJH]

I have one problem with the prospect of taking Polak with such a high price tag...

It leaves us in the same situation as we are with Gaspar and having a high priced defense at the expense of midfield and attack.

I would much favour some lower priced grunts (ie Matt McGuire types) to play defence.

Hodge has been underwhelming for a #1 pick. We must be careful not to pay too high a price for him. As suggested, maybe Tivendale and possibly a 2nd round pick may work.

On what Hodge has shown, he is not worth a 1st round pick.

[londontiger]

I was thinking about this for a long time and there are basically 2 scenarios with BRAD OTTENS

1) If he wants to stay at Richmond....

We can choose to trade him or keep him

2) If he wants to leave

We have to trade him.


Obvious I know, but this sets the scene for the alcoholics to understand all scenarios.


NOW - IF WE HAVE TO/CHOOSE TO TRADE HIM, we have a massive potential to stuff up another draft year. Yes even if Beck was replaced.

See Ottens is having a poor year by all standards, but he is a very talented tall, who can possibly become a very good player (Top 10 superstar maybe). He is only 24.

As many of you have mentioned, the back up ruckman are Stafford (due to retire in a couple) and Marsh (very unlikely to ever be a No. 1 ruckman.

So if the decision is Otto goes, we either
1)TRADE for a draft pick (and use it on anyone) and a player (RUCKMAN) - Highly unlikely, as I doubt any ruckman worthy (e.g Gardner, Sandilands would leave their current situation)
or 2)TRADE for a draft pick (to get a ruckman) and a player (any position) - Very attractive BUT does come with the risks below.
or 3)TRADE for 2 Draft picks (and use at least one to get a ruckman). - Even more attractive BUT does come with the risks below.


Bearing in mind it may be a tall draft (which it clearly is), there are some gun midfielders that are tipped to fill a heap of places in the top 5, and most likely go numbers 1,2,3 and 4.

At year end with forecast Richmond will end up with AT WORST Pick 4 or 5, and AT Best Pick 2 and pick 4. (assuming no more than 5.5 wins).

Using the scenario, if we finish 15th with 6 wins, we will have pick 3 in the draft.

Hawthorn will pick 1 and 2 (they will defo get priority picks)

The hawks will pick the stand outs and then it leaves Richmond with the Pick 3 option.

Now the best ruckman is arguably Deluca or Meeson, but they probably wont go until the 9, 10 or after positions.

This leaves Richmond in a dilemma. Do we draft the best ruckman with pick 3? Or take the best player regardless of position? (My CHOICE).


But if we lose Otto, we will have to probably bite the bullet and draft a ruckman, effectively wasting the talent of pick 3.



So here is my draft proposal if Otto wants out.

Otto and Fiora to Adelaide

Carr, Pick 6 and Pick 22 to Fremantle

Pick 22, Polak and Sandilands to Richmond.

[Ripper]

Originally posted by londontiger


Otto and Fiora to Adelaide

Carr, Pick 6 and Pick 22 to Fremantle

Pick 22, Polak and Sandilands to Richmond.

Get real.

[Bojangles17]

Originally posted by 1980

Someone's also been in my ear abt Brisbane watching Richo every week and see him as the man to replace Lynch and feel that RFC are open to trading for him. The word around the clubs is that RFC need to reduce player payments and are open for business and no player is untouchable.

Very interesting post season ahead.

THEY ALSO NEED TO SHOW SOME IMPROVEMENT IF THEY DONT WANT TO SINK TO OBLIVION...IF YOUR LOOING FOR ANSWERS ON OUR LAMENTABLE PERFORMANCES THIS YEAR...YOUR LOOKING IN THE WRONG HOLE

[londontiger]

Originally posted by RIPPER_46
Get real.


Why? You can lose Polak for nothing...

[Ripper]

Originally posted by londontiger
Why? You can lose Polak for nothing...

He won't be doing anywhere. It is just his agent doing a good job.

As for your trade scenario. We lose 2 Freo boys (young stars in the making) to get one back and a draft pick?

Get real.

[nut]

Originally posted by Weaver
the Hawks could lose him for nothing.


Hawks can redraft hodge with 1st pick

[1980GFVideo]

Originally posted by nut
Hawks can redraft hodge with 1st pick

If he is intent on moving then the club wont bother redrafting him because the smart ones dont keep players who dont want to be there. Thats why the bullies didnt redraft Brown when he said he wanted to leave.

[Hodge_is_God]

Think of it this way. Coughlan to you = Hodge to us.

The funniest comment i heard for a while was one of your buffoons saying Hodge isn't worth a first round pick...Yeah and Coughlan wouldn't be worth a shi*e either...:rolleyes:

-Where has Hodge expressed any interest in leaving Hawthorn?

-How do you figure you'll have a higher pick in the pre-season draft than us?


You have as much chance of you getting Hodge as Hawthorn getting Luke Ball. Not gonna happen.

Ottens is a different situation altogether as he's been stagnating at Richmond for 7 years - very similar to Nathan Thompson. Both have oodles of talent, never lived up to it.

[tiger of old]

Originally posted by nut
Hawks can redraft hodge with 1st pick incorrect.i think you.ll find the club in which the player has left can not be drafted by the same club.

cheers!

[tiger of old]

Originally posted by Hodge_is_God


-How do you figure you'll have a higher pick in the pre-season draft than us?


have a look at my answer ^^^^^^when it comes to hodge.
btw imo this is just a rumour or more like wishful thinking.

cheers!

[DirtyDogTiger]

We need spedsters..not another one who can't get from one contest to the next

[IDGAF]

Originally posted by 1980
I'll take bets that Ottens and Gaspar will be playing their football much further west than Melb next year. Ottens by his own choice, Gaspar as trade bait.

Someone's also been in my ear abt Brisbane watching Richo every week and see him as the man to replace Lynch and feel that RFC are open to trading for him. The word around the clubs is that RFC need to reduce player payments and are open for business and no player is untouchable.

Very interesting post season ahead. Very interesting scenario 1980 , always up for a Richo trade , Brisbane won`t have good enough draft pick so who is out of contract up there and who is "young" and good enough for us to target.

[Bojangles17]

Originally posted by Hodge_is_God

Ottens is a different situation altogether as he's been stagnating at Richmond for 7 years - very similar to Nathan Thompson. Both have oodles of talent, never lived up to it.

the only parraleel with Thomo is the both have two arms and legs...at leats Otto has hit a high note in his career and an asteute judge may argue he knows the trick to reproduce, and at 24 all is not lost...remind me of thomos high note......wasn't it 7 goals in a wizzo cup game or the upteen chicks he used to pull of a weekend....

[Hodge_is_God]

Originally posted by Bojangles17
the only parraleel with Thomo is the both have two arms and legs...at leats Otto has hit a high note in his career and an asteute judge may argue he knows the trick to reproduce, and at 24 all is not lost...remind me of thomos high note......wasn't it 7 goals in a wizzo cup game or the upteen chicks he used to pull of a weekend....

I'd have thought both hit their highs in 2001 when Thommo and Ottens both dominated in the ruck and forward. Interestingly enough both our sides had great years in 2001...

Regardless, career-wise, Thompson vs Ottens is far more of a parallel than Hodge vs Ottens.

[Jack 17]

It's not Hodge that is the target. It is Luke Ball. I heard this from my source at the club months ago. They think it is only 50/50 chance but are planning to drive up St Kildas player costs.

[Fishfinger]

If the Hodge rumour did end up having substance I'd be pretty happy. What did cross my mind is that he is another left-footer.

[GhostofJimJess]

Originally posted by Hodge_is_God
Regardless, career-wise, Thompson vs Ottens is far more of a parallel than Hodge vs Ottens.

I like Thommo, H_i_G. He's actually quite a good friend of mine.

However, he is not half the footballer that Brad Ottens is.

[londontiger]

Funny how news like this seems to re-cycle every two years

[Calcium Man]

I like that no one didnt really rate Hodge and nobody was willing to see ottens go. How times change!!

[IDGAF]

I like Thommo, H_i_G. He's actually quite a good friend of mine.

However, he is not half the footballer that Brad Ottens is.:D

Care to recant Spectre ?

I know where my money is

[GhostofJimJess]

:D

Care to recant Spectre ?

I know where my money is

Fair call at that point. Ottens had been an All-Australian a couple of years earlier, had collected the most contested possessions at Tigerland the previous year, rucked tirelessly week after week despite being terribly coached and having nobody to hit it too in the guts (often being forced to rove to himself!), and was probably our best player. Thommo was a flat track bully who occasionally chimed in for a handful of goals against poor opposition, but went missing when the Hawks faced the top teams.

Just goes to show how very different an impact the experience of changing clubs for different players can be. In the context of what was happening in June 2004, I stand by what I posted.

And Thommo is still a great bloke.

[Mr Miller]

Weaver's Tivandale for Hodge trade would have been nice.

[meownotroar]

I have a gun, can I make him a target also ?

[GhostofJimJess]

:D

Care to recant Spectre ?

I know where my money is

Who would you take in 2008, ID?