Stiffy to Power?

[MaccasNeighbour]

How serious are the rumours that Johncock wants to go to the Power next season? I keep hearing whispers here and there but nothing definitive.

Can anyone enlighten me?

Hopefully they are not true as he is still the best young player we have.

If they are true then what should we expect in return? I would have thought at least a first round draft pick but Port wont have that to give. Only other option is a quality player, but who?

[Fergus]

I heard KG talking about this and he categorically stated that Stiffy is not looking to go to Port. Time will tell I guess but my money is on that he will stay with the Crows.

[Tyson20]

i think the rumours are just that...rumours!

Stiffy wont be going anywhere BUT if he does then he wont go cheaply...i can see the AFC taking a tough stance on this one if it does come to the fore! the PAPFC may try and play hardball knowing the Stiffmeister may want to go back there and try and force the AFC into a unfair trade...

doubt it will happen tho...

and to be fair to the PAPFC, i dont think they would play hardball. the working relationship between both SA clubs has always been good. the likely hood of an amicable trade being done would greater than not...IF it was to happen!

[DaveW]

Any chance of coming up with something new? I'm getting bored of this one.

[grazza]

No chance

[Mitch Power]

[i]
If they are true then what should we expect in return? I would have thought at least a first round draft pick but Port wont have that to give. Only other option is a quality player, but who? [/B]

I have heard the rumour also and as a Port supporter, I would love to have him at Alberton. For a trade to be done, Port would have to offer the Crows a ruckman or a key tall.

Possible trade Johncock for Lade plus a 2rd or 3rd round draft pick? Any comments?

[Tyson20]

Originally posted by Mitch Power
I have heard the rumour also and as a Port supporter, I would love to have him at Alberton. For a trade to be done, Port would have to offer the Crows a ruckman or a key tall.

Possible trade Johncock for Lade plus a 2rd or 3rd round draft pick? Any comments?

Next...:rolleyes:

[_espoir]

Pfft not Lade... give them Cain Ackland ;) hehe

If young johncock was to come over to the power side... does this mean Stiffy_18 will cross to the dark side ;) :p

[poptiffscherry]

Brendon Lade, definitely NOT!

In return for Stiffy, I'd be looking at perhaps a Stuart Dew, Either of the Burgoynes? Kane Cornes?

[MaccasNeighbour]

I would love to have Lade at the Crows, but at his age I would not be giving up Stiffy for him.

[KingAragorn]

How about Kane or Chad for Stiffy.

That way Chad can start playing in the forward lines where he belongs.

[noddy]

Originally posted by KingAragorn
How about Kane or Chad for Stiffy.

That way Chad can start playing in the forward lines where he belongs.

Now your talking :)

& who ever suggested "Dew" as a trade for Stiffy jeez what are you on looney juice??

[Port01]

Originally posted by MaccasNeighbour
I would have thought at least a first round draft pick but Port wont have that to give.

You know something we dont?

[MaccasNeighbour]

Originally posted by Port01
You know something we dont?

If Port finish top 4, which I think they will, then they wont have a first round draft pick, unless they trade for one.

[Wayne's-World]

Originally posted by MaccasNeighbour
If Port finish top 4, which I think they will, then they wont have a first round draft pick, unless they trade for one.
Everone gets a "first round" pick.
Where are you coming from?

[MaccasNeighbour]

Originally posted by Wayne's-World
Everone gets a "first round" pick.
Where are you coming from?

Ignore me, I just came back from a pub lunch.

I was referring to top 10 pick, but it came out as first round.

[Wayne's-World]

Originally posted by MaccasNeighbour
Ignore me, I just came back from a pub lunch.

I was referring to top 10 pick, but it came out as first round.
Aaah that makes sense.

[Tommy Gun]

In return for Stiffy, I'd be looking at perhaps a Stuart Dew, Either of the Burgoynes? Kane Cornes?

ahahahaha wishfull thinking

[PAfolwr]

Tredrea plus a first rounder.

[MaccasNeighbour]

Originally posted by PAfolwr
Tredrea plus a first rounder.

that hack?

[PAfolwr]

Originally posted by MaccasNeighbour
that hack? :D

[Stiffy_18]

I am seriously sick and TIRED of this pathetic rumour. This rumour is around EVERY bloody year and its proved to be the biggest load of crap EVER. Johncock will not go anywhere.

Originally posted by _espoir
If young johncock was to come over to the power side... does this mean Stiffy_18 will cross to the dark side ;) :p No way in hell. More chance of DT getting you over to our bright side :p:)

[macca23]

This rumour comes from only one source each year.

Michaelangelo Rucci.

IMO he is trying the power of suggestion on Johncock to try and make it happen.

It won't.

[Tyson20]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
I am seriously sick and TIRED of this pathetic rumour. This rumour is around EVERY bloody year and its proved to be the biggest load of crap EVER. Johncock will not go anywhere.

im just wondering when the Brendon Lade rumour will start...i hear that every year as well :rolleyes:

[Wayne's-World]

How about some rumors with some degree of validity.

All this pranking is rather boring and detracts from the credibility of this board.;)

[Eago77]

Originally posted by poptiffscherry
Brendon Lade, definitely NOT!

In return for Stiffy, I'd be looking at perhaps a Stuart Dew, Either of the Burgoynes? Kane Cornes?

You can take Dew, i'd rather give him up than Lade. We've got three small forwards better than Dew, Lade would be a handy pick up for most clubs. Dew is over-rated.

[spindoctor]

Really? You want to get rid of Dew?

Not the 'Floodbuster'? Why would you want to trade him?

He's a walking fat farm!

[Groove]

there is no way in hell that either of the burgoynes of the cornes boys are fair trade bait for johncock. He is probably of the same ability as Shaun Burgoyne but i have seen them out in town and they are close friends so i doubt a straight swap would work. how about lade, and dew for stiffy and a 2nd round draftpick.
even that sounds crazy, lade or dew plus a 2nd round draft pick for johncock.
keep in mind that johncocks form hasnt been that impressive this year.

[Stiffy_18]

FFS people Johncock is not going anywhere and even if he was Crows would want in return a player of similar age, quality and ability or a pick in the top 10. These crap suggestions like Lade and 2nd round draft pick (likely to be pick 30+) are just fantasies and are NEVER going to happen. You want a gun youngster who is yet to reach his peak but is still a match winner for a Ruckman in the twilight of his career with 2 broken legs behind him plus a late pick who is likely to turn into peanuts??????

How about Tredrea for Burton and 2nd round draft pick?????? No. Now you know how stupid your suggestions are.

Lets talk Damon White. What would power want for him??????

[PAfolwr]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
..Lets talk Damon White. What would power want for him??????
Don't even go there Stiffy. :D

[Ford Fairlane]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Lets talk Damon White. What would power want for him??????

The crows to relocate to WA? Look on the bright side, Stenglein would probably stay ... ;)

[Wayne's-World]

Originally posted by Ford Fairlane
The crows to relocate to WA? Look on the bright side, Stenglein would probably stay ... ;)
More than happy to trade Stenglein if the right deal can be done.
In fact the Perrie / Stenglein package could be quite attractive to West Coast?

[jmorg1]

Originally posted by Groove

keep in mind that johncocks form hasnt been that impressive this year.

Actually I was just having a look at Johncock's stats (http://www.footywire.com/fw/web/ft_player_career?pid=11) compared to last year and his average kicks, disposals and marks are slightly up, though probably not as much as crows supporters would have liked. While other stats are about the same except for tackles.

So, yes, he probably hasn't been that impressive but at this stage there is a marginal improvement over last season. But of course, that is just is based on statistics which may not mean anything depending on how you want to interpret it.

[Ford Fairlane]

Originally posted by Wayne's-World
More than happy to trade Stenglein if the right deal can be done.
In fact the Perrie / Stenglein package could be quite attractive to West Coast?

Should've traded Perrie two years ago when he still had some currency. Now he's just the bonus set of steak knives. I doubt he would value add much to what you'd get for Stenglein.

[Wayne's-World]

Originally posted by jmorg1
Actually I was just having a look at Johncock's stats (http://www.footywire.com/fw/web/ft_player_career?pid=11) compared to last year and his average kicks, disposals and marks are slightly up, though probably not as much as crows supporters would have liked. While other stats are about the same except for tackles.

So, yes, he probably hasn't been that impressive but at this stage there is a marginal improvement over last season. But of course, that is just is based on statistics which may not mean anything depending on how you want to interpret it.
He's been in the midfield more this year so you would expect his stats to be up.

But I think he was probably more effective last year, probbably because he was scoring more goals, which tend to stick in your memory more.

[Ford Fairlane]

Originally posted by jmorg1
Actually I was just having a look at Johncock's stats (http://www.footywire.com/fw/web/ft_player_career?pid=11) compared to last year and his average kicks, disposals and marks are slightly up, though probably not as much as crows supporters would have liked. While other stats are about the same except for tackles.

So, yes, he probably hasn't been that impressive but at this stage there is a marginal improvement over last season. But of course, that is just is based on statistics which may not mean anything depending on how you want to interpret it.

Has he had more midfield time this season? There was a fair bit of talk preseason that he would as he'd lifted his endurance levels. Also just at a glance his disposal seems to have fallen away a bit. A number of OOFs the last couple of weeks?

[Wayne's-World]

Originally posted by Ford Fairlane
Should've traded Perrie two years ago when he still had some currency. Now he's just the bonus set of steak knives. I doubt he would value add much to what you'd get for Stenglein.
If we send his 2003 highlights tape to WC, and change the year to 2004, we should be OK;)

[Ford Fairlane]

Originally posted by Wayne's-World
He's been in the midfield more this year so you would expect his stats to be up.

But I think he was probably more effective last year, probbably because he was scoring more goals, which tend to stick in your memory more.

Someone should swap our last two posts around ... ;)

[Groove]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18

How about Tredrea for Burton and 2nd round draft pick?????? No. Now you know how stupid your suggestions are.

Lets talk Damon White. What would power want for him??????
stiffy, now you are being an idiot. How can you compare a three time all australian, best and fairest and vice captain to a young flanker with potential. My suggestions are not stupid, you need a ruckman, and dew would give you another forward option.
Damon would probably be a fair trade but port need him more then another small runner... so i cant see that happening.

[spindoctor]

You're going to lose Damon White for three reasons.

1. He gets no opportunities - plays well, gets B&F votes, and gets dropped.

2. Thurstans has got his role at the moment, however crap Thurstans might actually turn out to be.

3. Adelaide need him, there is a regular first-team position he could walk into, and he wouldn't have to move interstate for the change.

[PAfolwr]

Originally posted by spindoctor
...
2. Thurstans has got his role at the moment, however crap Thurstans might actually turn out to be.
...

Mc Gregor __ Thurstans Mc Gregor __ Thurstans
Games 23 __ 23 Same
Kicks 128 __ 115 +13 __
Marks 75 __ 93 __ +18
H B 64 __ 90 __ +26
Disp 192 __ 205 __ +13
Goals 14 __ 15 __ +1
Pts 19 __ 9 +10 __
H.O. 25 __ 37 __ +12
Tackles 22 __ 41 __ +19

After 23 games Mc Gregor was leading in Kicks and Points only.
Thurstans leads in Marks, H/B, Disposals, Goals, Hit outs and Tackles.
None of them by a significant amount when divided by No of games, apart from tackles.

***************************************

In the last 23, ie after Mc Gregor has had a 64 game head start in experience
Mc Gregor leads in Kicks, Marks, H/B and of course disposals.
Thurstans leads in Goals hit outs and tackles.
When looking at game time and position played, again there is not much in it, apart from tackles again.
It is also worth noting that this period is McGregor's purple patch.


Mc Gregor __ Thurstans Mc Gregor __ Thurstans
Games 23 __ 23 Same
Kicks 182 __ 115 +67 (+2.9 pg) __
Marks 131 __ 93 +38 (+1.7) __
H B 120 __ 90 +30 (+1.3) __
Disp 302 __ 205 +97 (+4.2) __
Goals 12 __ 15 __ +3
Pts 6 __ 9 __ +3
H.O. 18 __ 37 __ +19
Tackles 28 __ 41 __ +13

[DaveW]

Both players were drafted in the same year, and Thurstans is a few months older than McGregor.

It's fair to say that the second comparison is the far more valid one. ;)

[PAfolwr]

Originally posted by DaveW
Both players were drafted in the same year, and Thurstans is a few months older than McGregor.

It's fair to say that the second comparison is the far more valid one. ;)
It is fair to say that Thurstans has less games/years available to improve, but so far so good.
I certainly wouldn't rush to swap him for McGregor atm, so statements like " however crap Thurstans might actually turn out to be" are way off the mark and somewhat parochial.

[Wayne's-World]

Originally posted by Ford Fairlane
Someone should swap our last two posts around ... ;)
Good to have someone agreeing with me - its been a bit lonely of late;)

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by PAfolwr
Don't even go there Stiffy. :D The bloke has been crusified. He deserves to play AFL and I still cannot believe that he got dropped after kicking 3 goals.

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by Groove
stiffy, now you are being an idiot. How can you compare a three time all australian, best and fairest and vice captain to a young flanker with potential. My suggestions are not stupid, you need a ruckman, and dew would give you another forward option.
Damon would probably be a fair trade but port need him more then another small runner... so i cant see that happening. Your suggestion is just as stupid and lets have a look at why.

Lade is close to retirement and is not in the top 5 ruckman in the comp.

Dew after OP is no where near the player he was

No club will trade their best youngster for 2 OK-ish players.

Think about it. Johncock is our best youngster and if he was to go it would be for a plyer of similar age, quality and talent or for a draft pick not a player and 2nd round pick. Just think about what would Port be asking if Johncock was in their side. They would laugh off the suggestions that you gave just as easily as you laughed off the suggestion of Burton and 2nd round pick for Tredrea. The chances of either of those trades being done are non existant.

Before people make some suggestions where they pack up a package for the player think whether or not that is possible and what would the clubs say. I am pretty sure AFC would tell Port what Essendon told Richmond when they offered peanuts for Solomon.

[spindoctor]

Originally posted by PAfolwr
It is fair to say that Thurstans has less games/years available to improve, but so far so good.
I certainly wouldn't rush to swap him for McGregor atm, so statements like " however crap Thurstans might actually turn out to be" are way off the mark and somewhat parochial.

I'm not making any comment on Thurstans at all Pafolwr, don't read things in.

I actually think Thurstans could be quite good, but he could also turn out to be dead crap. I am saying that White has shown more straight away than Thurstans has racked up slowly (admittedly he was good against Freo, but no other game he has played at AFL level has impressed me).

So that's my point. I am passing no judgment on how good Thurstans will or will not be, but am saying he could be crap, whereas White has shown something straight away.

[Zombie]

You'd be dreaming if you thought Johnco(k would be worth a top 10 pick.

[macca23]

Originally posted by Zombie
You'd be dreaming if you thought Johnco(k would be worth a top 10 pick.

And you'd be dreaming if you think there's any chance at all of him ever wearing the Power's colours.

It's another piece of Rucci mischievous crap.

It's pointless debating what Johncock is or isn't worth as a trade because it isn't going to happen.

[Zombie]

Originally posted by macca23
And you'd be dreaming if you think there's any chance at all of him ever wearing the Power's colours.

It's another piece of Rucci mischievous crap.

It's pointless debating what Johncock is or isn't worth as a trade because it isn't going to happen.

Agreed (re Rucci), although it isn't out of the realm of possibility in the future. If the Crows were offered a top 10 pick for Johncock I think they would take it in a heartbeat.

I wouldn't want to trade to get Johncock as we already have many players of a similar type to him, that's all.

[Asgardian]

NO NO NO

If any Crows are watching, NO, Port doesn't need Graham Johncock.

We have his style of player already covered, and in my opinion, covered by better players than Johncock.

Port's end of 2004 trading energies need to be used on making Port a better, more likely to win the flag, club.

Johncock is a good player, but we already have "him" in style in our best on-field team, we don't need him, Port should concentrate on its priority requirements

[Paralowiepower]

Originally posted by Zombie
If the Crows were offered a top 10 pick for Johncock I think they would take it in a heartbeat.

Why? They would just waste it ;)
Johncock would only start on the bench for us anyway.

[Ford Fairlane]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Johncock is our best youngster and if he was to go it would be for a plyer of similar age, quality and talent or for a draft pick not a player and 2nd round pick.

Yeah that’s the mantra you keep hearing from crows supporters and the media … but is he really? Or is he just the best developed player you have in that age bracket? At the moment he’s a good regular league player, but no more. For a while he looked like he would be a regular game breaker maybe even AA material, but not these days – which makes you wonder did he fly under the opposition radar when Riccuito, McLeod, Goodwin and Edwards drew all the attention?. His development appears to have plateaued and he has no real position on the field. Is he an opportunist forward, midfielder or small defender? Are Jericho, Watts, Hentschell, Bock, Reilly better youngsters because they have more development in them?

FWIW I’m with Asgardian - wouldn’t take him because I think he’s overrated for the reasons above so would cost too much and we have enough players of his type.

[noddy]

Can't believe that some people are still putting S Dew up for a possible trade for G Johncock.

At best Dew has only proven to be a handy forward pocket player who if given the chance can kick the ball a fair distance.

As for B Lade well if his name came up for trade from the Paps in regard to young Stiffy would we honestly even look at it sideways ?? maybe a few years ago but not now.

Anyway there is probably more of a chance that the young Burgoyne would be coming to the Crows than Johncock being traded to the Paps.

I believe Burgoyne no3 is said to be the best yet.

[spindoctor]

Originally posted by noddy
Can't believe that some people are still putting S Dew up for a possible trade for G Johncock.

At best Dew has only proven to be a handy forward pocket player who if given the chance can kick the ball a fair distance.

As for B Lade well if his name came up for trade from the Paps in regard to young Stiffy would we honestly even look at it sideways ?? maybe a few years ago but not now.

Anyway there is probably more of a chance that the young Burgoyne would be coming to the Crows than Johncock being traded to the Paps.

I believe Burgoyne no3 is said to be the best yet.

So he'll be the MOST inconsistent then, going by past history.

Port think they have a Johncock-type covered, and better? Who?

S. Burgoyne? Nup, definitely worse.
Pickett? Different player completely.
Ebert? Not as good.
Surjan? Not as good.
Crapssisi? Definitely not.

[Jars458]

Originally posted by Groove
there is no way in hell that either of the burgoynes of the cornes boys are fair trade bait for johncock. He is probably of the same ability as Shaun Burgoyne but i have seen them out in town and they are close friends so i doubt a straight swap would work. how about lade, and dew for stiffy and a 2nd round draftpick.
even that sounds crazy, lade or dew plus a 2nd round draft pick for johncock.
keep in mind that johncocks form hasnt been that impressive this year.

His form has been more than acceptable

Stiffy is 21 years old and has tremendous poetential

We would not give him up for players such as Lade and Dew whose best is behind them in my view.

We would want a Kane Cornes, and we may give you a third round pick as well as Stiffy for him.

But in my view the trade won't happen

Stiffy will be a long term player at our club and the less deals we do with Port the better.

[Jars458]

Originally posted by Asgardian
NO NO NO

If any Crows are watching, NO, Port doesn't need Graham Johncock.

We have his style of player already covered, and in my opinion, covered by better players than Johncock.

Port's end of 2004 trading energies need to be used on making Port a better, more likely to win the flag, club.

Johncock is a good player, but we already have "him" in style in our best on-field team, we don't need him, Port should concentrate on its priority requirements

That's good then.

No trade. We can all move on.

[Macca19]

Originally posted by spindoctor
So he'll be the MOST inconsistent then, going by past history.

Port think they have a Johncock-type covered, and better? Who?

S. Burgoyne? Nup, definitely worse.
Pickett? Different player completely.
Ebert? Not as good.
Surjan? Not as good.
Crapssisi? Definitely not.

A Johncock type?

Good Small defender? Weve got plenty.

Good Small forward? Weve got plenty.

average midfielder? Loads of better midfielders than Johncock.

Id rather persist with our strong group of young players than trade over the odds for Johncock that would essentially not add a whole lot to our team.

As i said on another thread...Johncock is a good young player with the potential to be a great player. The Crows will want more than we would be willing to give up and I dont believe it would be worth what we'd have to give up to get him.

Another flanker isnt going to improve our side a whole lot.

Just another thing, you would love to have S Burgoyne, Ebert, Cassisi and Pickett in your squad. You have a go at Cassisi but hes done a lot more than any young Crow midfielder has.

[Macca19]

Originally posted by macca23
And you'd be dreaming if you think there's any chance at all of him ever wearing the Power's colours.

And nobody would have ever thought that Rehn would play at a different club. And nobody thought that Modra would play at a different club. And nobody thought that Carey would ever play anywhere other than North Melbourne.

Never say never! Lots of good players have been traded in recent years.

It's pointless debating what Johncock is or isn't worth as a trade because it isn't going to happen.

But i do agree with this 100%. There is no way Johncock will be traded to Port or any other team. The Crows wont give him up and i seriously doubt Port are actually looking into him. There are other positions that are more important.

[marvin]

Originally posted by Macca19
And nobody would have ever thought that Rehn would play at a different club. And nobody thought that Modra would play at a different club. And nobody thought that Carey would ever play anywhere other than North Melbourne.
.

.............


There is no way Johncock will be traded to Port or any other team.

............ unless he stuffs up his knee(s) or sleeps with a teammates wife... or both.

[maccas_no1]

Biggest load of crock I have heard and Rucci with all the bull**** he has spilled lately should pull his head in:mad: :mad:

[Jerome]

Channel 10 have stated tonight that contract negotiations between Johncock and the Crows are almost complete.

Graham will be a Crow for a few years yet. An announcement should be made later this week (we hope!)

Finally some good news!

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by Jerome
Channel 10 have stated tonight that contract negotiations between Johncock and the Crows are almost complete.

Graham will be a Crow for a few years yet. An announcement should be made later this week (we hope!)

Finally some good news! Not surprised.

He was never going to leave and we were never going to let him go. Hopefully we can stich up Stenglein as well but I doubt he will be a Crow next year.

[Wayne's-World]

Originally posted by Jerome
Channel 10 have stated tonight that contract negotiations between Johncock and the Crows are almost complete.

Graham will be a Crow for a few years yet. An announcement should be made later this week (we hope!)

Finally some good news!
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Slow news week

[Mitch Power]

Originally posted by spindoctor

Adelaide need him, there is a regular first-team position he could walk into.....

With due respect Spindoctor, every average or better ruckman, key forward and key back in the AFL would consider themselves a good chance of walking into a regular first team position at the Crows right now......IMO, the Crows have quiet a bit of driftwood that needs to be cleared out before the next draft.

[Kane McGoodwin]

Originally posted by Mitch Power
IMO, the Crows have quiet a bit of driftwood that needs to be cleared out before the next draft.
Mitch, I stated at the beginning of the season that we were going to have a bigger than normal turnover at the end of this season (given the expected retirement & lack of turnover of fringe players last year). Given our (lack of) performances most of the Crows posters would be in agreement that a very big broom is going to be applied at AFC come the end of the season.

[Ford Fairlane]

Originally posted by Jerome
Channel 10 have stated tonight that contract negotiations between Johncock and the Crows are almost complete.

Graham will be a Crow for a few years yet. An announcement should be made later this week (we hope!)

Finally some good news!

Just after Ayres left ... ;) Mind you, even I'll be glad to see this rumour put to rest. Of course Ch 10 = Popplestone + Aiston, who, with all due respect, are the AFC equivalent of Goebbels and Tokyo Rose ...

[spindoctor]

Originally posted by Mitch Power
With due respect Spindoctor, every average or better ruckman, key forward and key back in the AFL would consider themselves a good chance of walking into a regular first team position at the Crows right now......IMO, the Crows have quiet a bit of driftwood that needs to be cleared out before the next draft.

I wholeheartedly agree about key forward and key back. Not ruckman though. Not until next season.

Not just average though - that's the problem, we have plenty of AVERAGE. I would have to be better than average - which I think Damon White is/will be.

[Cove Cobra]

Johncock will go back to Port.

have heard that the Club will ask for Salopek and 2nd round d/p.

[Jars458]

Originally posted by rainmage
Johncock will go back to Port.

have heard that the Club will ask for Salopek and 2nd round d/p.

He has never played for Port.

He played for the new PAMFC which has only existed since 1997

[Kane McGoodwin]

Originally posted by rainmage
Johncock will go back to Port.

have heard that the Club will ask for Salopek and 2nd round d/p.
So we are going to trade a local established youngster for a not as established interstater who may want to go home?

[mymansyd]

Originally posted by rainmage
Johncock will go back to Port.

have heard that the Club will ask for Salopek and 2nd round d/p.

v. bull·****, also bull·shat (-sht) or bull·****·ted (-shtd) bull·****·ting, bull·****s
v. intr.
To speak foolishly or insolently.
To engage in idle conversation.

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by rainmage
Johncock will go back to Port.

have heard that the Club will ask for Salopek and 2nd round d/p. Turn it up.

Its a load of crap and Johncock's extension of contract will be announced soon.

[Zombie]

Originally posted by rainmage
Johncock will go back to Port.

have heard that the Club will ask for Salopek and 2nd round d/p.

Port wouldn't take Johncock and a 2nd round pick for Salopek, let alone the other way around, Salopek is a far more valuable player than Johncock.

[Jars458]

Originally posted by Zombie
Port wouldn't take Johncock and a 2nd round pick for Salopek, let alone the other way around, Salopek is a far more valuable player than Johncock.

I say again - GOOD

There will be no trade

[Asgardian]

Why does this issue continue?

As far as I can tell, the Crow supporters do not want this trade to happen.

Equally as passionate are the Port supporters, who also do not want this trade to happen.

Dare I suggest that we all ignore this base rumour.

[Kane McGoodwin]

Originally posted by Asgardian
Why does this issue continue?

As far as I can tell, the Crow supporters do not want this trade to happen.

Equally as passionate are the Port supporters, who also do not want this trade to happen.

Dare I suggest that we all ignore this base rumour.
Rucci will be smirking with all the comotion he has caused! ;)