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at the moment i think that richmond could have the biggest clean out of players in the leage along with adelaide they might delist many players
1) G.Tevendale
2) M. Chaffy
3) R. Hall
4) A. Fiora
5) T. Zantuc
the only safe player would be Stafford, Brown Cracker, Cougland and Richo and bowdan after a solid year fair call?
itsintheblood
29 Jun 2004, 15:39
I don't agree with you on stafford or hall. Stafford had been very ordinary this year. The game has left him behind and he needs to go.
Hall- Unless we can draft a decent big defender we cant afford to let him go. He's been on the best forwards all year and had done pretty well considering he's been thrown to the lions
Keep Hall. Get rid of Gaspar, trade him to the Coasters.
Possibly keep one of Fiora and Zantuck, depending on your choice of coach.
Trade Richo. Get some backup players and a decent pick.
DirtyDogTiger
29 Jun 2004, 16:38
This year is the last chance to get a worthwhile trade for Richo.
But that's not saying I want to see it happen.
wrennyboy
29 Jun 2004, 17:15
Good point about richo...
I still love the bloke tons. There has been alot of talk about the lions wanting to get him when lynch retires to do that sort of role but he question is who do we get for him.
Bradshaw+Notting and a 4th rounder?
wrennyboy
29 Jun 2004, 17:16
Good point about richo...
I still love the bloke tons. There has been alot of talk about the lions wanting to get him when lynch retires to do that sort of role but he question is who do we get for him. I really do think we are way to one dimensional with richo in the square. We could have the resting ruckman forward with zantuck and bradshaw leading out of the square. Im not really sure what would u guys take for richo?
Bradshaw+Notting and a 4th rounder?
corporal
29 Jun 2004, 17:24
Originally posted by wrennyboy
Bradshaw+Notting and a 4th rounder?
No way in buggery would the lions even sneeze at that offer (if they did I would have to put aside my new found love of Richo as it would be a great deal)
mighty tiges
29 Jun 2004, 17:50
Originally posted by DirtyDogTiger
This year is the last chance to get a worthwhile trade for Richo.
But that's not saying I want to see it happen.
Last year was our last chance to trade Richo. He's now contracted to 2006 and if Gas is going to be traded then we can't afford to be paying even in part for two hefty salaries for blokes playing elsewhere. .
mighty tiges
29 Jun 2004, 17:56
Originally posted by wrennyboy
Bradshaw+Notting and a 4th rounder?
:eek: Although I'm not against the idea of trading Richo that type of deal will do nothing for us wrenny in terms of rebuilding our list. Remember that Bradshaw is being supplied pinpoint passes by Voss, Black, Aker, Lappin, Power, etc. He ain't going to get that type of service from our current midfield! Notting is just a fringe player albeit a useful one for the Lions.
Originally posted by mighty tiges
Last year was our last chance to trade Richo. He's now contracted to 2006 and if Gas is going to be traded then we can't afford to be paying even in part for two hefty salaries for blokes playing elsewhere. .
Richo goes onto the veterans list next year. His contract will be backended as a result and therefore allthough we might save real dollars we won't save much in salary cap terms by trading him.
Stafford and Marsh might as well stay. We are not going to get better backup ruckmen for a reasonable price and if they go Ottens can blackmail us. Keep the 3 and recruit a kid or two to develop for the next 3-4 years.
rfctigerarmy
29 Jun 2004, 19:37
I dont blieve you guys are wanting to trade Richo?
What the **** is wrong with some of the people around here?
Originally posted by rfctigerarmy
I dont blieve you guys are wanting to trade Richo?
What the **** is wrong with some of the people around here?
Years of misery is probably a good place to start.
Bojangles17
29 Jun 2004, 21:32
Originally posted by wrennyboy
Good point about richo...
I still love the bloke tons. There has been alot of talk about the lions wanting to get him when lynch retires to do that sort of role but he question is who do we get for him. I really do think we are way to one dimensional with richo in the square. We could have the resting ruckman forward with zantuck and bradshaw leading out of the square. Im not really sure what would u guys take for richo?
Bradshaw+Notting and a 4th rounder?
they would amount to being as effective as Morrison and weller.....to even think about it we would need to see Brennan, Luke Power and first draft choice
Crumden
29 Jun 2004, 21:36
Originally posted by Rickey
at the moment i think that richmond could have the biggest clean out of players in the leage along with adelaide they might delist many players
1) G.Tevendale
2) M. Chaffy
3) R. Hall
4) A. Fiora
5) T. Zantuc
I think there are quite a few in the queue ahead of this lot to be delisted. Zantuck would probably be the most vulnerable as he seems to be a bit out of favour at the moment. One or two of these may be put up for trade, but as we will only get something similar in return there is no real point.
I can`t believe we keep going over all the same chestnuts. It`s time Punt rd woke up to itself and realised that footy at this level is played between the ears , they are all there because they have ability , it`s the ones that can deliver you want hence -
Richo - no footy brain what so ever , Should have gone to St Kilda in 94 for Lockett , if we could get anything for him now it would be a bonus
Ottens - I reckon i display more passion putting out the garbage on a Monday night than he does on the footy field , plays like footy is the 16 th most important thing in his life , trade now while we can still get top value
Stafford - Was rumoured to have had Differences with most of his team mates in SYD , plays the same way down here , time to move him on
Tivendale - 24 carat pure frontrunner , Where is he generally when the opposition are piling them on ?
Hall - Just not up to it , anyone who thinks he could be full back/ centre HB in a top 4 team are kidding themselves
All should be shopped around
Add to that Hilton (no brain) Fleming (no skill ) Houlihan (past it)
Rodan (never been consistent, to small ) Nichols (what were we thinking) Fletcher (ditto )
Cambo , Kellaway , Rogers retired .............. thats a pretty good start i reckon
Big question marks on Gasper , Chaffey , but would you get anything for them
We need Carlton style cleanout NOW
Bojangles17
29 Jun 2004, 22:06
Originally posted by IDGAF
Ottens - I reckon i display more passion putting out the garbage on a Monday night than he does on the footy field , plays like footy is the 16 th most important thing in his life ,
I think your right, First up is Mandy then, Sandy, Candy, Bambi, Shazza, Kazza, Deb, roxy, cindy, celeste, delta, shannon, shelly, Molly and finally lilly...of course then comes FOOTY...aghhhh the life of an afl footballer and to think its depressing for some ....
Originally posted by Bojangles17
I think your right, First up is Mandy then, Sandy, Candy, Bambi, Shazza, Kazza, Deb, roxy, cindy, celeste, delta, shannon, shelly, Molly and finally lilly...of course then comes FOOTY...aghhhh the life of an afl footballer and to think its depressing for some .... Maybe spud should have given him a few more hours in the cell that night , might have given him a better appreciation of his lot in life compared to others
1980GFVideo
30 Jun 2004, 00:26
When you say cleanout it needs to be more our bottom ten who just arent up to it not necessarily our top players.
Id like to see our better players in a side with less duds.
I think its the bottom ten that really make it difficult to see what Ottens and Richardson really can be as footballers. Very hard to play well in a team that is being beaten in so many positions. Especially when you are in the forward line.
Keep Hartigan ???? :D :D :D
julzqld
30 Jun 2004, 09:11
oh here we go again:rolleyes:
Why do people persist in the thought of trading Richo? If we didn't have Richo we would have easily all the games we have won and would be sitting bottom of the ladder. Why get rid of one of the few good players we have had this year? Why would we want to accumulate another Daffy scenario?
:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
Originally posted by julzqld
oh here we go again:rolleyes:
Why do people persist in the thought of trading Richo? If we didn't have Richo we would have easily all the games we have won and would be sitting bottom of the ladder. Why get rid of one of the few good players we have had this year? Why would we want to accumulate another Daffy scenario?
:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: I`ll tell you why , fantastic he won us a couple of games off his own boot this year , finally , games we were probably better off losing because A: we would finish bottom and get the picks we so desperately need B: if we didn`t win those games Spud might of gotten the flick earlier and might have been in with a shot at Getting Sheedy if we had more time, but any way i digress
Youve mentioned the couple good deeds he has done this year but would about the games he has cost over the years , his pathetic Kicking , his shocking , petulant attitude and body language , his inability to capitalise on teams good work . Anyone that has played the game will tell you that , that sort of stuff spreads through the team like a cancer . How do you warrant or justify that ? If you ask me he is at the route of a good deal of our problems
julzqld
30 Jun 2004, 23:27
Oh so now it's Richo fault we didn't get Sheedy and Spud didn't resign sooner?! Richo doesn't capitalise on the team's good work - what good work? Getting rid of Richo would be like the Bombers getting rid of Lloyd - and he's no angel either and kicks as many behinds if not more than Richo. Would you prefer that Richo played against us - I certainly don't!
Originally posted by julzqld
Oh so now it's Richo fault we didn't get Sheedy and Spud didn't resign sooner?! Richo doesn't capitalise on the team's good work - what good work? Getting rid of Richo would be like the Bombers getting rid of Lloyd - and he's no angel either and kicks as many behinds if not more than Richo. Would you prefer that Richo played against us - I certainly don't! Your kidding me , i think the QLD sun has got to you , your comparing Richo to LLoyd , look i can`t stand Lloyd but if it came down to the Pepsi challenge between him and Richo , Lloyd wins by the length of the Flemington straight
At least we get sun:cool:
Tell me then, if we get rid of Richo - who do we put at FF?
corporal
1 Jul 2004, 11:05
Originally posted by julzqld
At least we get sun:cool:
Tell me then, if we get rid of Richo - who do we put at FF?
Maybe we could re-draft Paul Hudson as a leading full forward whilst our kids "develop"
GhostofJimJess
1 Jul 2004, 13:48
Originally posted by wrennyboy
Good point about richo...
I still love the bloke tons. There has been alot of talk about the lions wanting to get him when lynch retires to do that sort of role but he question is who do we get for him.
Bradshaw+Notting and a 4th rounder?
Okay, this is the last time I'll say this (at least until the next time:) ) - stop taking the offcuts from other teams!
Bradshaw - Do you honesty believe he's be ahywhere near as effective outside of the Brisbane team? Has Mitchell White or Stevan Jackson written all over him. Please leave him be.
Notting = Rory Hilton. Their playing style is eerily similar. Leave him too
4th Rounder ? - For Richo ? Insulting.
Top 10 pick and then some, or forget it
Remember, Carey cost a Pick 2 in the National draft, after shoulder reco's that left him unable to lift his arms!
And Richo's got 3 or 4 more years than Carey left in him at the same stage.
Krakustar
1 Jul 2004, 16:43
Richo, Brown, Johnno & Cogs are untouchable. The rest I say Come on down and we will see if the Price is Right.
Originally posted by julzqld
At least we get sun:cool:
Tell me then, if we get rid of Richo - who do we put at FF? Schulz is a pretty good start don`t you think?
oh_my_hat
4 Jul 2004, 11:53
Originally posted by wrennyboy
Good point about richo...
....I really do think we are way to one dimensional with richo in the square. What's wrong with playing Richo on the wing like the game against the Bulldogs at Telstra Dome last year? 17 marks 2 goals B.O.G by the length of the Flemington straight...and the Tiges won the game!! I have to say that I'm not a subscriber to this "plonk Richo in the square and kick it long" game plan. It just doesn't work often enough.
Darth_Tiger
4 Jul 2004, 12:11
after shultz's performance last night we may have to find another spot for richo. he wont be traded. we might as well stop debating it because it WONT happen. get rid of gaspar instead. also chaffey and a. kellaway (yes it pains me to say it) would be a good trade - he is young enough to attract something in return but old enough that he wont figure in a youth policy for too much longer.
wrennyboy
4 Jul 2004, 13:52
What's wrong with playing Richo on the wing like the game against the Bulldogs at Telstra Dome last year?
His hammys would twang like theres no tomorrow. Believe me it was kind of a good decision to bulk him up but i really do think guys that its time for a trade. We are in a new era and have a few young kids. I still love richo believe me but if the right deal came up i would hav a look at it.
the only players we will lose are:
Nicholls - crap
Fletcher - delisted
Houlihan - will be delisted
Blumfield - has been totally crap
Rogers - retire
DK - retire
Hilton - he has to play cinsistent good footy like v Lions for the rest of the year to stay
Dragga - he might go im not sure though