Chapman or Guerra

[Neutral Pussy]

Tough nuts who love a goal. Would have them both but happy with Chappy.

[7WINMAR7]

Guerra.

Very happy with him so far this year.

His mouth doesnt write cheques his body cant cash either.

[Neutral Pussy]

Originally posted by 7WINMAR7
Guerra.

Very happy with him so far this year.

His mouth doesnt write cheques his body cant cash either.

Can he speak or has he lost his tongue too?:D

[Joffaboy]

Apart from both being bald, what are the similarities?

Different type of players.

[David_02]

i rekon guerra hes better to watch and seems to have a bit more agression. Y does he looks so old but?

[Ricketts]

chapman for me.

more strings to his bow.

[Kenny_01]

Chapman.

[BulldogMike]

Both playing well. I think Guerra has about 29 goals 4 or something like that.
I'd take him for the way he has played this year.

[Neutral Pussy]

Originally posted by Joffaboy
Apart from both being bald, what are the similarities?

Different type of players.

Both forward pocket/midfielders.

Both tough at the footy

Both tough at the man

Differnet type of players?

[Joffaboy]

Originally posted by Neutral Pussy
Both forward pocket/midfielders.

Both tough at the footy

Both tough at the man

Differnet type of players?

Guerra is a forward.

Guerra is tough at the ball

Guerra is tough at the man

Totally different type of players :D :D

[SaInts SKill]

Guerra better kick for goal hits the man harder and kicks more goals.

Chapman is probably slightly more capable of playing in the midfeild though.

[The Fireman]

Guerra is actually 57 years old, so that makes him better.:p

[7WINMAR7]

Guerra is a forward.

Guerra is tough at the ball

Guerra is tough at the man

Totally different type of players


POST OF QUALITY....:D :D :D :D

[dan warna]

yeah guerra has no form in the midfield, while chapman is one of the cats better midfielders.

that said, with, ball, harvey, thompson, lenny, dal, black, etc no room for guerra:D

Guerra is 21, I wish however he'd tackle more often.

I reckon bumps have only a 10 to 20% chance of turning the ball over, a good tackle is close to 50%.

lenny and luke ball are far more effective than guerra in getting ball.

the sooner he learns to tackle the better he will be.
BTW milne is better than both of them!

[LongBomb]

chapman > guerra


:D

[SaintsSupporter]

Guerra, because I see him as having a bit more versatility in the midfield and on the wings. Chapman doesn't venture downfield as much as Guerra does, and Guerra does a good job at it, too.

[Joffaboy]

Originally posted by LongBomb
chapman > guerra


:D

Any one in the Saints midfield > chapman


:D

[skipper kelly]

A bit of a sniper that Guerra. Love it:D

[SaintsSupporter]

Originally posted by Joffaboy
Any one in the Saints midfield > chapman


:D Joffa speaks the truth.

[LongBomb]

Guerra - 78 matches, 67 goals, 8.3 avg possessions.
Chapman - 68 matches, 71 goals, 14.1 avg possessions.


the winner is chapman - more goals + possessions in less matches.

[Ricketts]

Originally posted by LongBomb
Guerra - 78 matches, 67 goals, 8.3 avg possessions.
Chapman - 68 matches, 71 goals, 14.1 avg possessions.


the winner is chapman - more goals + possessions in less matches.


goals per game:
chapman------------1.04
guerra---------------0.86


disposals per game:
chapman-------------14.1
guerra----------------8.3


cant argue with the stats, end of thread.

:)

[Joffaboy]

Originally posted by LongBomb
Guerra - 78 matches, 67 goals, 8.3 avg possessions.
Chapman - 68 matches, 71 goals, 14.1 avg possessions.


the winner is chapman - more goals + possessions in less matches.

Most of those matches were with a club that played him off the bench.

A fair comparision would be this season for goals

Guerra 29.4

What is Chapmans this season?

[sainter]

Originally posted by LongBomb
Guerra - 78 matches, 67 goals, 8.3 avg possessions.
Chapman - 68 matches, 71 goals, 14.1 avg possessions.


the winner is chapman - more goals + possessions in less matches.

The reason why Guerra left Port Adelaide was because he was always starting on the bench and he was looking for more opportunities.

He's been given that opportunity this season and results speak for themselves.

Port supporters have admitted on here that they were disappointed to lose him and wished that Mark Williams had given him more game time.

[Ricketts]

Originally posted by Joffaboy
A fair comparision would be this season for goals

chapman goes in the midfield more than guerra, ie - not a fair comparison.

[Joffaboy]

Originally posted by Ricketts
goals per game:
chapman------------1.04
guerra---------------0.86


disposals per game:
chapman-------------14.1
guerra----------------8.3


cant argue with the stats, end of thread.

:)

Yes you can. of course you can. See above post.

Also Guerra has played as a small forward so his posessions would not be as great as Chapmans who plays predominately
in the midfield

Lies lies and statistics.

[SaintsSupporter]

Chapman = 28.13

[Joffaboy]

Originally posted by Ricketts
chapman goes in the midfield more than guerra, ie - not a fair comparison.

I didn't chose the basis of the comparision Longbomb did.

lies lies and statistics

[Ricketts]

Originally posted by Joffaboy
Chapmans who plays predominately
in the midfield



that is a lie.

[catfan29]

Chapman coz he doesnt play for a chance at a cheap hit at the opposition.

[Joffaboy]

Originally posted by SaintsSupporter
Chapman = 28.13

Guerra more accurate therefore better according to the Longbomb stats basis.

[Seb]

Originally posted by Joffaboy
Any one in the Saints midfield > chapman


:D

Whilst we're on the > bandwagon....

GAJ > The St Kilda Football Club.... Administration and even those lost calaries!

[Joffaboy]

Originally posted by catfan29
Chapman coz he doesnt play for a chance at a cheap hit at the opposition.

Who does? Name one shot Guerra has gotten off this season that wasn't face to face. Not like headbutts, throatpunches, knees, and charges like Geelong do when the oppositions back is turned.

[LongBomb]

finalsiren.com gives 28.4 for Guerra this year (excellent accuracy btw) and 28.13 for Chapman.

[Ricketts]

Originally posted by Joffaboy
stats basis.

chapman more goals per game
chapman more disposals per game.

[Falchoon]

Originally posted by Ricketts
chapman goes in the midfield more than guerra, ie - not a fair comparison.

Ling didn't expect to see Guerra in the midfield

[LongBomb]

It's tough to find a stat guerra is leading in.

reports perhaps?

[Ricketts]

Originally posted by Falchoon
Ling didn't expect to see Guerra in the midfield

and thats why he got 3 weeks.

[SaintsSupporter]

Originally posted by Joffaboy
Guerra more accurate therefore better according to the Longbomb stats basis. Exactly. And he does more with the ball than Chapman, too. Chapman usually just grabs it and boots it long and hopes for the best.

[Ricketts]

Originally posted by LongBomb
It's tough to find a stat guerra is leading in.

reports perhaps?

:D

[saintsrule]

Originally posted by Ricketts
chapman more goals per game
chapman more disposals per game.

Guerra has kicked more goals in 4 fewer games this year! Therefore his strike rate is superior.
He is also better because he hasn't got a big mouth!

Too much huffing and puffing here. Why not wait until Sunday for some kind of answer to this useless question?

[Neutral Pussy]

More goals this year, more possessions. Better disposal.

I think there lies the answer.

I declare Chapman the winner in this poll

Thankyou all for participating.
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[Falchoon]

Originally posted by LongBomb
It's tough to find a stat guerra is leading in.

reports perhaps?

That's an easy one

Brent Guerra P78 W57 L21 @73%
Paul Chapman P68 W32 L35 @48%

[saintsrule]

Originally posted by Neutral Pussy
More goals this year, more possessions. Better disposal.

I think there lies the answer.

I declare Chapman the winner in this poll

Thankyou all for participating.
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How many games has Chapman played this year? goals?
How many games has Guerra played? goals?
Who wins? or is maths not your strongpoint?:rolleyes:

[Destructive]

Chapman.

[saintsrule]

Guerra

[evertonfc]

Leigh Montagna > Every player mentioned in this thread.

[bLuEMoOsE]

Voss.

My Turn My Turn! i dont care if its been done either.

[evertonfc]

There's one in every...forum :confused:

[Ricketts]

chapman 37-17 guerra

[Rodion]

Over the year, probably Guerra. Over the last month or six weeks, Chapman.

[riccardo]

All this poll proves is there are more Geelong supporters posting here than St Kilda ones.

Yet to hear very many neutral voices, it is mostly Geelong ones.

You can rate Chapman and his big mouth higher if you like, but he came out with egg all over his face when he said how much better than my team Geelong were, just days before we gave them a 10 goal thumping.

Have Chapman if you like him that much, St Kilda is very happy with Mini G, thank you very much.

[Rodion]

Originally posted by riccardo
All this poll proves is there are more Geelong supporters posting here than St Kilda ones.

Yet to hear very many neutral voices, it is mostly Geelong ones.

You can rate Chapman and his big mouth higher if you like, but he came out with egg all over his face when he said how much better than my team Geelong were, just days before we gave them a 10 goal thumping.

Have Chapman if you like him that much, St Kilda is very happy with Mini G, thank you very much.

Is there anything you don't whine about?

[saintsrule]

And which whiner started this thread! Gees for Guerra's sake!

[Savatage]

Jesus Christ cats fans, stop with these insipid comparisons already.

Do you want sympathy or something?

[Ricketts]

Originally posted by riccardo
All this poll proves is there are more Geelong supporters posting here than St Kilda ones.

yep. that is exactly what it means.

:rolleyes:

[The_Flying_Egg]

Chapman all the way. Unlike Guerra he has the potential to be a gun midfielder.

[saintsrule]

Read page 12 of today's Age sport.

[LongBomb]

good article (http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2004/07/26/1090693896363.html) - I agree wholeheartedly - the Cats will need to improve their accuracy if they are to win.

[ChappyFan]

Over the year, probably Guerra. Over the last month or six weeks, Chapman

How over the last three years Chapman has played consistently good footy, therefore has been far more valuable to the team. Chappy win hands down.

Guerra is a good player but still a fair way behind Charlie at the moment.

[saintsrule]

Originally posted by ChappyFan
How over the last three years Chapman has played consistently good footy, therefore has been far more valuable to the team. Chappy win hands down.

Guerra is a good player but still a fair way behind Charlie at the moment.

Guerra has only played for Saints this year. Hardly a reasonable comparison! His stats re accuracy are still better. :rolleyes:

[Unwritten_Law]

The Geelong-St Kilda Bigfooty rivalry has died down since but I thought such a great performance from the best little man in the game warranted a celebratory bump :)

[LongBomb]

Haha. funny to relive this stuff.

I know who I'd want in my team.

[The Lord Commander]

Good question back in 2004 but we know the answer now.

[tenaces ace's]

You guys have too be :D:D:D:Ded in the head or something! Do you see Paul Chapman no longer required at a club i don't think so, only room for Milne in st.kilda and champan is a much better player than his as well. The reason why Guerra has been so effective this year is because he generally doesn't have a man and plays as a spare man in the backline. Not only does he not have an opponeent half the time, he doesn't have people tagging him like Chapman does. How was Guerra as a small forward getting that type of attention, hmmm let me very inconsisent and as a result spent time in the VFL. Doesnt have the ability too go into the midfield either.... the one thing he has over Chapman is a bump.

[dipper86]

You guys have too be :D:D:D:Ded in the head or something! Do you see Paul Chapman no longer required at a club i don't think so, only room for Milne in st.kilda and champan is a much better player than his as well. The reason why Guerra has been so effective this year is because he generally doesn't have a man and plays as a spare man in the backline. Not only does he not have an opponeent half the time, he doesn't have people tagging him like Chapman does. How was Guerra as a small forward getting that type of attention, hmmm let me very inconsisent and as a result spent time in the VFL. Doesnt have the ability too go into the midfield either.... the one thing he has over Chapman is a bump.

Nice rant twit, The poll was done in 2004.

[Richo83]

Doesn't Gurerra sometimes play in the backline? Why would you compare him to someone who plays in a different position?

[chapmanmagic35]

Chapman - star!

[Unwritten_Law]

Doesn't Gurerra sometimes play in the backline? Why would you compare him to someone who plays in a different position?

Because the post was made in 2004 when he played as a small forward for the Saints. Jesus.

[Richo83]

Because the post was made in 2004 when he played as a small forward for the Saints. Jesus.

My apologies.

[Powerstufff]

Chapman is so much more valuable than Guerra that I'm puzzled why anyone would even ask.

[Skeppersap]

This poll is a living testemant to how stupid, biased and generally unknowledgable St Kilda supporters are.

By far the worst bunch of supporters in the league.

(by the way...I think Chapman is miles better)

[HFC082]

http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/compare_players?tid1=108&pid1=20192&tid2=107&pid2=20126

Pretty tight if you ask me. Good thread even after a few years.

Guerra for mine:D

[Hard Ball Get]

Are you serious?
Chapman 1 million times > Guerra.


Guerra is a very ordinary footballer
Chapman is a very good footballer