Whew... had me worried there....

[Chicago1]

I had visions of us losing against the Dockers during the match and was, for once, grateful I was 10 000 miles away!

Boy, that was close for a while. Huddo.... no.... no .... no! Kick for GOALS, son! ;)

[Captain Sensible]

Hey C1, think of the worst game thast you have ever seen. Multiply the lack of skills by a factor of about 1000 then you have the skill level of this game. Thank the lord that you were so far away and didnt have to sit through it.

BTW did you enjoy the chardonnay?

[Top Dog]

My day was saved when i saw my hero the Murfster dominate the 3rd qtr and set up all of our goals.

[Westy Boy]

Yeah, we were very, very flat in the middle stages. Still doesn't excuse 'supporters' booing our boys at half and three quarter times though - Pretty bloody poor actually, IMO.

Top perforance by Penny in closing down Modra. As Top Dog pointed out, Murphy fired us up a bit by setting up a couple of goals in the third, and Gia looked classy like he has in the last few weeks, so great to see the kids doing well and performing when we needed them to. McMahon still needs a bit of time to develop though.

Don't know what to make of the game -- if we played like that against any other team, we probably would have been beaten. We need to step up next week, to have a good chance against the Saints. Then against Richmond .... geeze ... on our form lately, it's gonna be tough to say the least.

Anyone know the crowd? For 'some reason', they didn't show it on the scoreboard. Looked around 15,000 - worrying.

[Top Dog]

Westy Boy the crowd was a disappointing 15,111 and yeah the booing at 1/2 time was pretty bad and im proud to say i had no involvement in.
McMahon still needs a bit of time to develop though.

Looked good in the early stages playing on the wing then wally took him off.

[Homer]

Gotta tell you, we watched that on the tv. What a scrappy game it was. Skills were abysmal, on both sides.
Gotta play a hell of a lot better to be finals shakers.Couldn't even better the percentage by much.

[HahnPremium8]

At the time I thought they deserved the booing at half time. It wasn't the lack of skills...it was the lack of effort. :mad: But at the same time I don't want to ever hear our team booed by our own supporters again. It doesn't do the team any good. In fact it sounds like they were pretty upset about it.

Anyway i feel things are on the way up. They got through the game in the end and hopefully they gained some confidence. And BTW how good was eagle in the 1st quarter in the midfield and also what about Giansiracusa as well. Murph and Penny also played well so at least there were some real positives from the game.

[Chicago1]

Originally posted by localyokel

BTW did you enjoy the chardonnay?

I sure did, local. We had barbecued shrimp with it at dinner. Paul Hogan would have been proud!

My mom still isn't sure who this "Bulldogette Lucy" was that I toasted! Hope she and missus local are doing well. Give Lucy a big hug from "Uncle Chicago". :D

[bulldogs1]

Westy,

I admire what you post here, but I disagree. I was one of the "supporters" (to quote someone else) who were booing. Mate, I have been following them for 35-odd years, never booed them, never left before the end of a match, always bought peanuts from the peanut man (well, slight exaggeration!), and love my team.

I was disgusted. The season is on a knife-edge, and I know the players put in. The point was, after 35 years of watching the boys, I felt this was one time that such a performance warranted me telling them what I thought. A kick up the bum. I still love them, and will be there next week.

I wouldn't want to see booing every week, but I can't recall hearing it before, and don't expect to again. I am not one for criticising players individually, but as team efforts go, with so much at stake, to lose two consecutive quarters against a team that has lost 16 in a row, and lost 18 of 20 quarters this year, this was poor.

I love my team. I'm sure many others who booed do as well.

Originally posted by Westy Boy
Yeah, we were very, very flat in the middle stages. Still doesn't excuse 'supporters' booing our boys at half and three quarter times though - Pretty bloody poor actually, IMO.

Top perforance by Penny in closing down Modra. As Top Dog pointed out, Murphy fired us up a bit by setting up a couple of goals in the third, and Gia looked classy like he has in the last few weeks, so great to see the kids doing well and performing when we needed them to. McMahon still needs a bit of time to develop though.

Don't know what to make of the game -- if we played like that against any other team, we probably would have been beaten. We need to step up next week, to have a good chance against the Saints. Then against Richmond .... geeze ... on our form lately, it's gonna be tough to say the least.

Anyone know the crowd? For 'some reason', they didn't show it on the scoreboard. Looked around 15,000 - worrying.

[Westy Boy]

Apoligies for putting "supporters" in quotation marks, Bulldogs1 -- totally unwarranted -- but I was pretty pissed off about a few things after the match. I would never question anyone's loyalty, love or passion for the team, and I know exactly how you felt. Booing just isn't my kind of thing I guess -- although I'm one to criticise players on the occassion (I try to keep it constructive when Jose has missed a shot from 30 meters out, directly in front with a paddock in front of him ;)),

I totally understand why everyone did it (some players trying to be cute/fancy and perceived to not be putting their bodies on the line etc.), but I still think jeering our team is over the top. I don't like questioning any player's endeavour, because, although it may seem a little naive, I think that they're giving 100% out there no matter what -- whether that translates to the scoreboard is a different story.

Realistically, if our 10 scoring shots during that flat period had of flew past the right side of the posts, everyone would have been happy as Larry. If Huddo converted all 6 shots, Browny all 5, we would have been 10-12 goals up -- that fact that we weren't isn't necessarily an indictment on their application for the team, but more a skill thing and having an 'off day', and I don't think it's fair to boo a player for that, or for the fact that we aren't destroying supposedly inferior opposition on the scoreboard.

That's just my opinion, and obviously some people will disagree. No-one's right or wrong in the way they support their team -- everyone will show their emotion in different ways, and that's fair enough. :)

[bulldogs1]

Yeah, love you too, Westy.

I guess what I felt and tried to get across at the time was that the TEAM as a whole had underperformed. I would criticise individual players rarely, as you know. Yeah, individual efforts really pee me off, but heh, who doesn't make mistakes?

The boys as a whole let themselves down more than anything. Terry amongst others shouldn't feel too precious about the booing bit. Bloody Hell, that was pretty bad. So what is a bake by the supporters really mean anyway? I can't recall it happening before at Doggie Land, unlike other teams. I don't expect that I or others will feel quite that way again as a large group, either.

For instance, the performance in the 1998 preliminary final comes to mind as one that provoked much greater disappointment, as I felt that we may get even with the Crows for 1997, but not to be. Despite that thrashing, I felt proud of the boys for their efforts during the year. I still do feel proud, but I had the feeling that those flashy bits of play (as described on MMM) on Saturday really showed a contempt for the Dockers, the team got lazy and relaxed. That is what REALLY annoyed me. I suspect quite a few others feel the same way.

Regards,

B1


Originally posted by Westy Boy
Apoligies for putting "supporters" in quotation marks, Bulldogs1 -- totally unwarranted -- but I was pretty pissed off about a few things after the match. I would never question anyone's loyalty, love or passion for the team, and I know exactly how you felt. Booing just isn't my kind of thing I guess -- although I'm one to criticise players on the occassion (I try to keep it constructive when Jose has missed a shot from 30 meters out, directly in front with a paddock in front of him ;)),

I totally understand why everyone did it (some players trying to be cute/fancy and perceived to not be putting their bodies on the line etc.), but I still think jeering our team is over the top. I don't like questioning any player's endeavour, because, although it may seem a little naive, I think that they're giving 100% out there no matter what -- whether that translates to the scoreboard is a different story.

Realistically, if our 10 scoring shots during that flat period had of flew past the right side of the posts, everyone would have been happy as Larry. If Huddo converted all 6 shots, Browny all 5, we would have been 10-12 goals up -- that fact that we weren't isn't necessarily an indictment on their application for the team, but more a skill thing and having an 'off day', and I don't think it's fair to boo a player for that, or for the fact that we aren't destroying supposedly inferior opposition on the scoreboard.

That's just my opinion, and obviously some people will disagree. No-one's right or wrong in the way they support their team -- everyone will show their emotion in different ways, and that's fair enough. :)

[Captain Sensible]

It must be endemic to us older supporters but I understand why some people did what they did.
I didn't indulge myself-I had my 3Y-O with me and he doesn't want to see his dad carry on like that-but I was sitting right next to the race and could see that it was mainly older supporters that were booing.
The players were just lairising in the second quarter and actually deserved to be behind at that stage IMO.
Hope we beat the Sainters on saturday.

[Chicago1]

Didn't realise during the match that the booing was directed toward our players. The commentators were rather vague in explaining it and I thought it was directed toward the umpires. I only found out after reading match reports in the newspapers. I have never booed the Doggies from what I can remember. Even in the dark days of the early 80s I don't think I did, just not in my nature. It's been a bit difficult not being able to see them play and making my own judgements. My information comes from what I can gather over the net in the Doggies forums, this forum, the AFL site and the Age and HeraldSun online. I haven't been able to hear most of the matches this year but I try not to pay attention to many radio commentators editorial-type style. It is disappointing that it happened, but maybe that is the wake up call some team members needed. Wouldn't it be great to win ALL our matches for the rest of the season? I can dream, can't I??? :D

[bulldogs1]

I'm glad some of you understand. Yeah, I'm over 40, and while my 19 year-old son has seen some success with the Doggies, 35 years of frustration crept out on Saturday when I saw that lairising. Maybe I did go over the top, and I am a teensy bit sorry, but I sure hope the players got the message.


Originally posted by localyokel
It must be endemic to us older supporters but I understand why some people did what they did.
I didn't indulge myself-I had my 3Y-O with me and he doesn't want to see his dad carry on like that-but I was sitting right next to the race and could see that it was mainly older supporters that were booing.
The players were just lairising in the second quarter and actually deserved to be behind at that stage IMO.
Hope we beat the Sainters on saturday.

[Dogs_R_Us]

Originally posted by bulldogs1
I'm glad some of you understand. Yeah, I'm over 40, and while my 19 year-old son has seen some success with the Doggies, 35 years of frustration crept out on Saturday when I saw that lairising. Maybe I did go over the top, and I am a teensy bit sorry, but I sure hope the players got the message.




Just a suggestion - why don't you ppl who booed and also those that didn't, email the club and explain the reason for it. I'm not having a go at you, in fact I can understand it to an extent.

But it would have been a mighty shock to the team and coach who have been idolised for the last 5 seasons, and have never before been booed like that, even when they've lost.

I'm sure the team would welcome any messages that reassure them of our continuing support, and that the boos were really an expression of our fear that we could be slipping back into our old loser mentality.

[bulldogs1]

Thankyou, Dogs_R_Us, I will do exactly that. I had considered actually going to training and chatting to one of the players, who could pass it on. I will e-mail the club, and see if I can arrange to (briefly) talk to them and explain. (Shaking in my boots).

Originally posted by Dogs_R_Us


Just a suggestion - why don't you ppl who booed and also those that didn't, email the club and explain the reason for it. I'm not having a go at you, in fact I can understand it to an extent.

But it would have been a mighty shock to the team and coach who have been idolised for the last 5 seasons, and have never before been booed like that, even when they've lost.

I'm sure the team would welcome any messages that reassure them of our continuing support, and that the boos were really an expression of our fear that we could be slipping back into our old loser mentality.