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The Scarecrow
21 Aug 2004, 16:38
From The Mercury Reported By: BRETT STUBBS

THE Hobart Football Club will suffer a slow, agonising death unless it can sort out its identity crisis, says captain Daniel Gray.
Gray, 26, who will lead the club into the elimination final against the Kingborough Tigers on Saturday at North Hobart, said yesterday Hobart did not necessarily have to revert to its traditional Tigers jumper and mascot but must find an identity -- and fast.
``We are concerned if something is not done very soon, the future doesn't look bright,'' Gray said.
``As everybody knows, corporate sponsorship is not readily available. Sponsors are not jumping out of trees to get on local footy clubs.''
He said aligning with an AFL club would be ideal because it could attract new people to Hobart.
``Brisbane seems to be a pretty good example,'' Gray said.
``[Brisbane full-forward] Alastair Lynch played with Hobart. He would be a pretty good ambassador for the footy club.
``There are numerous options but I would be happy with whatever secures the future of the club.
``We just need to choose one and act on it now so this is finalised and next year we run out in a different strip with a different name.''
Gray, the son of 1980 Hobart premiership player Peter, and his vice-captain Brent Dickson, the son of 1973 premiership player and former captain Murray, said they had worried about going public with their concerns.
``We are sitting on our hands not being proactive,'' Gray said.
``I know our identity is a very controversial topic.
``But if we don't sit down and sort it out with the necessary bodies, whether it be Kingborough or the SFL executive, we are just going to continue down the same path and that path is a very precarious one.
``We don't even have a secure junior development program in place.
``We need some strong leadership at the head because this has been an issue for five or six years.''
Gray, a cousin of Kingborough's Andrew and Tim Lamprill, said Hobart's relationship with Kingborough has been strained since Hobart entered the SFL in 1998 and was forced to give up its Tigers identity.
``They [Kingborough] are well within their rights to be upset because some factions in our footy club still claim to be the Tigers and officially we are not,'' he said. * Kingborough forward Tim Lamprill has been cleared at the tribunal of a striking charge arising from last week's game against Lauderdale and will be free to play in Saturday's elimination final against Hobart.

WCL
21 Aug 2004, 19:49
The thing that will save Hobart is if they get the TIGER back and if Kingborough become the Seagulls and embrace some of Sandy Bay's tradition then they will also be better off, along with getting rid of Brighton it would be a good league

The Scarecrow
21 Aug 2004, 19:57
Sadly, I cannot see Hobart becoming "The Tigers" again, but this will be the best chance for the Hobart Football Club, supporters, members and official to choose the right name and colours for them. I have a good idea for a jumper for them, if the league would let 2 tiger teams in the Premier league.

But right now, they have to fight for their new identity, new colours, and new jumper, I really hope above all, they drop they lame jumper they are currently running around it, I have hated since the first time I saw it, and it still annoys the hell out of me.

Jerome
21 Aug 2004, 23:17
Here's an idea for a mascot...how about the Tigersnakes? Colours: red, yellow and black.

The Scarecrow
21 Aug 2004, 23:27
Here's an idea for a mascot...how about the Tigersnakes? Colours: red, yellow and black.
Sounds good, they keep both the Tiger, and the colours, good idea.

Kingpin
22 Aug 2004, 22:24
I can live with the fact that Hobart no longer has its Richmond jumper anymore - we can come up with something just as elegant.
But losing our emblem is killing us as a club.
Hobart had very few supporters at the Elimination Final yesterday - and myself and a few mates who are pretty well known as fiery 'Bart supporters - decided we'd tell Kingborough, the umpires and who ever else came across our path what we thought of it all - a lot of our "newer" (St Virgils) supporters just sat there like shags on a rock the entire day :rolleyes:

I reckon seven or eight of us made more noise than the other 150 combined.

Hobart doesn't get the Tiger back - thus regaining a lot of its latent and fiery support back - it WILL be dead.......and very soon

The Scarecrow
22 Aug 2004, 22:31
I think that there is room for both sides to have Tiger mascots, different jumpers would be needed, but a nickname shouldn't matter to anyone. I mean I am sure Glenorchy and Claremont could of shared The Magpies name, but changed jumper designs. Surly the league could come up with something that says Hobart can be Tigers, and choose a design for a jumper.

Kingpin
22 Aug 2004, 23:20
Agreed 100%
Now's not the time to stifle clubs with silly ruling - football itself here could be dead within 10 years if something isn't done NOW.
You only have to look at the lack of numbers in Colts competitions to know how dire the whole thing is.

The Scarecrow
22 Aug 2004, 23:26
I remember them saying something about the kids taking part in Auskick has dropped, I have seen many teams this season forfeit games, if AFL Tasmania doesn't do something, there will be no footy left in Tasmania. I noticed the other day school football is coming back, this'll be a big step in the right direction for Tasmanian football.

Maybe a general meeting should be held to discuss what will happen with the "Tigers" name, it's time for them at AFL Southern Tasmania to do the right thing for the league, and for the Hobart Football Club.

Kingpin
22 Aug 2004, 23:34
Absolutely - and not only that, but North Hobart hasn't got its original strip because of........Brighton - I mean FFS when will this madness end.
I suspect the SFL's is a giant con, personally. It's the ****heads that were previously involved at hack amatuer and Huon clubs now telling the former TFL clubs how to do things - and purposely keeping them down.

The Scarecrow
22 Aug 2004, 23:40
Maybe it's time for them to clear the offices and start again, I am sure there is someone out there that has more of an idea then these clowns. They don't realise the damage they have done to clubs some of the clubs, by making these clubs lose their tradition.

It's time to start all over again, and do thing right this time, get rid of Wade, Davey, and the rest, and put someone in that doesn't have their own agenda.

Borne Again
23 Aug 2004, 00:52
But the problem is, there isn't anyone that wishes to do the job, that is why Scott Wade, and many others got their jobs, in reality if there was a fight for the jobs they would never be in power. I would like to see some of Tasmania's top footballers have a go, maybe Hudson, Ling, or someone like that. Surly they could do the job better.