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hothead
20 Sep 2004, 10:03
Just wondering what people thought of the two games on the weeend at port, who played well and any injuries that might hurt the two teams going into saturdays big clash!
I can tell you that Travis Cloke played a very good game. Kicked three and played on the wing for a bit.
Funny how these Cloke "duds" keep managing to get their teams to Grannies!!
Coughlan
20 Sep 2004, 10:36
there is more then 1 player in a team
there is more then 1 player in a team
Agreed. That is why we are asking for reports from people who saw the games. Don't be so thin skinned buddy.
GOALden Hawk
20 Sep 2004, 10:53
Oakleigh fell away badly after half time, and were absolutely smashed in the ruck. They lacked a quality defender to contain Bate and Cloke, and eventually Gilham had to be moved back to contain him.
Sharp had a shocker, copped a knock and never really recovered. Bain was OK until going off injured.
For Eastern Bate was great up forward, kicked 4.3, but he still drops a lot of marks. Knights was good once again, kicking is his only concern.
Deluca and Falovic were very impressive in the ruck.
Jacobs was also good down back, took some great marks, and Spangher towelled up Bonaddio.
Gopies 2002
20 Sep 2004, 10:59
Oakleigh fell away badly after half time, and were absolutely smashed in the ruck. They lacked a quality defender to contain Bate and Cloke, and eventually Gilham had to be moved back to contain him.
Sharp had a shocker, copped a knock and never really recovered. Bain was OK until going off injured.
For Eastern Bate was great up forward, kicked 4.3, but he still drops a lot of marks. Knights was good once again, kicking is his only concern.
Deluca and Falovic were very impressive in the ruck.
Jacobs was also good down back, took some great marks, and Spangher towelled up Bonaddio.
From a Collingwood perspective, how did Cloke perform ?
footyfreak11
20 Sep 2004, 10:59
GOALden hawk if you are talking about jacobs for eastern you have the wrong person because he didn't play. Dalton was great down back on dowler i thought.
hawks2005
20 Sep 2004, 11:04
For Eastern Bate was great up forward, kicked 4.3, but he still drops a lot of marks
there was only one mark i can remember that he clearly should have taken, his set shot kicking needs to improve though!
i thought Dalton was good on Dowler, and Knights killed it with 39 touches!
GOALden Hawk
20 Sep 2004, 11:19
GOALden hawk if you are talking about jacobs for eastern you have the wrong person because he didn't play. Dalton was great down back on dowler i thought.
Oops, meant Wilson (28). Dalton was good - the Ranges ability to close down Oakleigh's key forwards played a big part in them winning the game.
Cloke kicked 3 and looked pretty good to me. Has a big turning circle, but he can kick the ball a mile.
Oops, meant Wilson (28). Dalton was good - the Ranges ability to close down Oakleigh's key forwards played a big part in them winning the game.
I think Oakleigh would have been better off putting Dowler to CHB and leaving Gilham up forward. Gilham looked to be the only one likely to get goals and Dowler might have gotten into the game at CHB.
Once Eastern got on top in the midfield it was game over. Oakleigh don't really have any genuinely good tall defenders and Bate, Hill and Cloke were allways going to towel them up if they could get good supply.
hothead
20 Sep 2004, 11:50
yerr i saw the game, i thought bate was outstanding, he just seem to be involved both in the air and at ground level, the kid can definatly play! dont no how he didnt get in the bests for eastern! knights was good, and the defense for eastern stood up well in general! i'm glad they beat oakleigh as well :)
For oakleigh sharp was terrible injured or not ( if he was he shouldnt of played)
dowler was almost kickless!
The only players that did anything was myers who did a great job acting as a big man all day, bain was very flashy in and out of the game, but looked a class act when he got it, untill he got stretchered of in the last 5 mins! poor effort all round!
anyone no how bad bains injury is? and any other injuries to come out of the game, especilly for eastern?
hawks2005
20 Sep 2004, 12:01
Bain didn't look good as he was stretchered off the ground.
There are no injury worries for eastern from the game, also Todd Burley and Leigh Adams are chances to come back from injury this week for the granny.
Also i heard from Evan Johnson (eastern) that Myles Krakouer refused to shake his hand after the game just because he'd been bagging him a bit during the game!
Bad bloke i reckon!
Footymad
20 Sep 2004, 12:10
Watched the Eastern V Oakleigh game closely. Lost interest in the other game as the scores show. Here’s my run down of the better players
Cloke – Was excellent especially when moved to a wing in the third. One of the better games I’ve seen him play. Surprised wasn’t in the best. Adds to the theory that players who have a chance of being drafted get in the named best players.
Deluca- Fantastic. Great mobility for his height and followed up his tap outs once they hit ground level.
Knights- Good skills and set the play up well. Was everywhere in the second half.
Wilson – Looked like he took about 15 marks the way he kept bobbing up across half back. Did well on Murphy and was a key contributor to the teams success on the day. When kicking just needs to look for team mates running past a little more rather than always kicking long to a contest.
Spangher – This kid continually impresses. Had to step up at CHB on Bonnadio with the injury to Burley and was giving away 12 to 15 kilos. How his not been invited to a test I’ll never know. Bonnadio had little impact. Will be drafted next year.
Bate - Was well held early and I think the coaching staff moved him up the ground a little to late. When he went there he dominated the rest of the match.
Dalton- Solid as usual without being flashy.
Gilham – I thought was one of the best and gave them a lot particularly early on. Very impressed with his attack on the ball in the marking contests.
Laidlaw - Held Bate well early which was no mean task. Played a consistent 4 quarters.
Dowler – Although they didn’t kick many he was there better forward over the 4 quarters. Gave them something on the leads. The ball never went past half forward in the 3rd quarter so he didn’t have much of a chance. As we all know this kid has a bright future and will take the comp apart next year.
Sharp – Obviously injured as he rarely ventured past half forward.
Bain - I thought was Oakleigh’s best player. Hope he pulls up ok with the injury
GOALden Hawk
20 Sep 2004, 13:12
Bain said he had just twisted his knee and he should be fine in a couple of weeks. So he might even be right for draft camp.
The thing about Calder is that as individual players they are not necessarily that good, but they play a great team oriented brand of footy.
Even in a 120 point win there were too many examples of great marks, dashing runs, guys running past people, spectular snap shots, last ditched spoils etc etc.
Just heaps of putting pressure on the ball carrier, standing in tackles, taking opponents to ground in tackles, keeping the ball alive in the forward line, getting front and square to contests, knocking the ball forwards when you can't pick it up, kicking long and quickly from from broken play, punching from behind, playing in front at all times and always having touch on an opponent at stoppages.
Far from boring I thought Calder were great to watch on the weekend. They dotted every i and crossed every t.
Eastern fought hard against Calder in the earlier finals meeting, but really it was effort to stay close more than really threating Calder. Can't see the Calder team getting done on the weekend.
hothead
20 Sep 2004, 14:05
i have been a critic of calder in the past, but they well deserve it now, they will win the grandie easily.
I'm just glad that oakleigh arent there! i'm a fan of a couple of there players but dont like the way the play, just bombing and hoping for there big guyz to mark, if dowler or bonnadaio dont kick goals they are stuffeed!
Golden Hawk do u no about bains knee for sure? sorry to drain the topic but i am a fan of this lad, and although he needs to improve in some areas, i do think he is a good talent!
Can someone tell me how did Heath Hocking play and did Josh Singh play?
I can tell you that Travis Cloke played a very good game. Kicked three and played on the wing for a bit.
Funny how these Cloke "duds" keep managing to get their teams to Grannies!! funny how none of them will win a granny!! idiot.
think bain is on cruches at the moment and the injury isnt too bad. should be right for draft camp, but doubt he will be 100%
Footymad
20 Sep 2004, 14:57
Can someone tell me how did Heath Hocking play and did Josh Singh play?
Hocking was ok - Has set himself a high standard so maybe judging him on past performances.
Singh I believed was left out. No injuries that I know of.
Footymad
20 Sep 2004, 15:30
I think Oakleigh would have been better off putting Dowler to CHB and leaving Gilham up forward. Gilham looked to be the only one likely to get goals and Dowler might have gotten into the game at CHB.
Once Eastern got on top in the midfield it was game over. Oakleigh don't really have any genuinely good tall defenders and Bate, Hill and Cloke were allways going to towel them up if they could get good supply.
Weaver
I think you'll find that Gilham was on Easterns fourth best defender. With Burley out, Spangher took Bonaddio whilst Dalton takes the best tall, not necessarily the full forward. Gilham I agree was impressive early and needed to stay there. But moving someone else down back they may have suffered the same issue.
Surprised Ainger didn't play, that could've stretched them.
chipsticks
20 Sep 2004, 15:33
Bain didn't look good as he was stretchered off the ground.
There are no injury worries for eastern from the game, also Todd Burley and Leigh Adams are chances to come back from injury this week for the granny.
Also i heard from Evan Johnson (eastern) that Myles Krakouer refused to shake his hand after the game just because he'd been bagging him a bit during the game!
Bad bloke i reckon!
U r a **************** and so is ure little mate Johnson!!
hey judda boy cameron won flags with eastern and williamstown.idiot.
isn't williamstown the reserves for collingwood? making him a 'dud'! Jason is a "dud" no question about it! as for trav i reckon he is the best of the three, however is very predictable in the way he plays. p.s. the shaws r "duds" as well. idiot
Bueller
20 Sep 2004, 17:46
isn't williamstown the reserves for collingwood? making him a 'dud'! Jason is a "dud" no question about it! as for trav i reckon he is the best of the three, however is very predictable in the way he plays. p.s. the shaws r "duds" as well. idiot
Hello troll. That was before he had made his debut for Collingwood. Idiot.
isn't williamstown the reserves for collingwood? making him a 'dud'! Jason is a "dud" no question about it! as for trav i reckon he is the best of the three, however is very predictable in the way he plays. p.s. the shaws r "duds" as well. idiot Brayden Shaw is gunna be a gun.
Hello troll. That was before he had made his debut for Collingwood. Idiot. you cant honestly tell me that the money you pay for all these players is worth it?? between the shaws and the clokes, you could be paying some much better players!!
Brayden Shaw is gunna be a gun. playing for his local club in the reserves he will be!! seriously these kids wouldn't be anywhere if their dad hadn't of been a good player. they live in the shaddows of their old man and there is no doubt about it
Presti_is_god
20 Sep 2004, 17:59
Your a sad sad person Judda.
mudshake
20 Sep 2004, 19:42
U r a **************** and so is ure little mate Johnson!!
Noice. & he's not that little either.
Bomberfan00
20 Sep 2004, 23:52
Anyway, back to the topic.
Eastern is the only team that has threatened a full strength Calder outfit this year, matching them at stages during the first final, and coming very close to beating them at Coburg going down by 5 points.
Should be a better game than some people expect and i dont think that Eastern has enough respect from some people than they probably deserve.
Im expecting a tough game and Eastern will love the underdog tag, as they have nothing to lose, as no expectations are placed on them.
isn't williamstown the reserves for collingwood? making him a 'dud'! Jason is a "dud" no question about it! as for trav i reckon he is the best of the three, however is very predictable in the way he plays. p.s. the shaws r "duds" as well. idiot
You said that they never win grannies , but cam has won 2 so you have been proven to be an idiot.
When is this jealousy about collingwood getting the clokes gunna end. :D
chipsticks
21 Sep 2004, 12:47
Noice. & he's not that little either.
?????? And you are ?????
playing for his local club in the reserves he will be!! seriously these kids wouldn't be anywhere if their dad hadn't of been a good player. they live in the shaddows of their old man and there is no doubt about it
Brayden Shaw didn't do a preseason this year because of ankle surgery, had a shoulder injury last year and season this year was ruined by injury. He still managed many 20+ possy games with Williamstown and was going to debut for Collingwood before a training mishap ended his season prematurely. How can he be a dud; captained Vic Metro last year and was All Australian :cool:
footyfreak11
21 Sep 2004, 23:51
i think talking about the clokes should be banned. Trav is a great player and who ever doubts that should have a look at his previous games with ranges and remember he is bottom age. he kills it
benno87
22 Sep 2004, 00:14
How was Jesse Smith? (North's)
i think talking about the clokes should be banned. Trav is a great player and who ever doubts that should have a look at his previous games with ranges and remember he is bottom age. he kills it must admit trav is a very good footballer, and does kill it as a bottom ager, but i still dont think the other father\son boys are any good. that's my opinion.we'll see how many real grannies they will win. cause a certain shaw pretty much lost the club one last year.
WoeyFanclub
22 Sep 2004, 13:06
Brisbane belted us las year...how can shaw be responsible for the whole team? Fair enough if we lost by like 2 points or something. Sadly Shaw and many others played a shocker last year, so think about it ********ER before you crap on about something you have no idea about
to put an end to all this. I've met all three cloke boys and are all very good blokes, but i don't the older boys are much chop. Trav is already a gun. For the shaw's i don't rate them very highly at all, and to be honest all you collingwood fans don't either i reckon. that's my opinion anywayz
Go_Blueboyzzz
24 Sep 2004, 17:19
I'm with you juDDa ... Jason ans Cameron only got drafted because of their name ... clubs are ******** frightened not to draft father and sons because the supporters will go feral if they turn out to be good players elsewhere.
catfan29
25 Sep 2004, 02:15
Is FootyMad any relation to Matt Spangher?