Pura Cup: Tasmania v South Australia

[Russian]

South Australia Graham Manou (capt), Mark Cosgrove, Paul Rofe, Dan Cullen, Nathan Adcock, Callum Ferguson, Greg Blewett, Tom Plant, Ben Cameron, Jack Smith, Mark Cleary, Shaun Tait.

Tasmania Daniel Marsh (capt), Michael DiVenuto, Michael Bevan, Sean Clingeleffer (wk), Jamie Cox, David Dawson, Michael Dighton, Xavier Doherty, Andrew Downton, Brett Geeves, Adam Griffith, Damien Wright.

[meh]

[QUOTE=Russian][ Nathan Adcock,QUOTE]

what how can he get a game??

[Syd Swan]

This will be a battle for the wooden spoon.

[silky-smooth]

Match to start in about 50 mins

[silky-smooth]

This will be a battle for the wooden spoon.
If South Australia win, they go to equal top. Go figure :rolleyes:

[Russian]

Nathan Adcock,

what how can he get a game??He'll be 12th man, just shows our lack of batting depth in this state. I think there was 1 century in grade cricket on the weekend and not many 50s.

[Blue Red and Gold]

Great chance here for SA to capatilise on their early season form, bit disappointing they dropped their guard for an innings against QLD as the result could of been very interesting.
I think alot of people are underestimating SA this year, sure they have a young side and will be inconsistant but we have already suprised the Vics and came very close to winning an unwinable game against QLD.

[silky-smooth]

Great chance here for SA to capatilise on their early season form, bit disappointing they dropped their guard for an innings against QLD as the result could of been very interesting.
I think alot of people are underestimating SA this year, sure they have a young side and will be inconsistant but we have already suprised the Vics and came very close to winning an unwinable game against QLD.
So true.

[Jars458]

Let me guess, no live updates on the brilliant Cricket Australia site??? :rolleyes:

[Syd Swan]

If South Australia win, they go to equal top. Go figure :rolleyes:

And if they lose, they are equal last. Go figure :rolleyes:

[silky-smooth]

And if they lose, they are equal last. Go figure :rolleyes:
All ready have figured - and, at least they are in a better position than Tasmania :rolleyes:

[silky-smooth]

Let me guess, no live updates on the brilliant Cricket Australia site??? :rolleyes:
They had an article on their site earlier in the week saying they can't do live scores on this match as they were preparing their "brilliant" new hi-tech system for the Test Match between Australia and New Zealand.

[Russian]

Let me guess, no live updates on the brilliant Cricket Australia site??? :rolleyes:They're not even trying for this match. They're going to upgrade the system to hopefully have it working for Thursday.

[Jars458]

They had an article on their site earlier in the week saying they can't do live scores on this match as they were preparing their "brilliant" new hi-tech system for the Test Match between Australia and New Zealand.

What geniuses.

Mutlit million dollar organisation that decides to get rid of a service provider who provided a brilliant service and replace it with absolute doggs balls of a system that doesn't work

Meanwhile loyal cricket fans get shafted.

Yet another sporting organisation that gets everything on a plate and when the going gets tough falls in a heap.

[Russian]

If cricinfo is correct, Tassie are batting first

[Syd Swan]

All ready have figured - and, at least they are in a better position than Tasmania :rolleyes:

They won't be in any better position if they lose, 3 games each, with only 1 win, mind you both teams could be considered as equal second if Tassie win.

[silky-smooth]

They won't be in any better position if they lose, 3 games each, with only 1 win, mind you both teams could be considered as equal second if Tassie win.
Well... I will be happy if they're both above Victoria.

[silky-smooth]

Tasmania team:
*DJ Marsh, MJ Di Venuto, MG Bevan, +SG Clingeleffer, J Cox, DG Dawson,
MG Dighton, XJ Doherty, B Geeves, AR Griffith, DG Wright.

South Australia team:
*+GA Manou, MJ Cosgrove, PA Rofe, DJ Cullen, CJ Ferguson, GS Blewett,
TC Plant, BP Cameron, JK Smith, TP Kelly, SW Tait.

Final XI

[silky-smooth]

Tasmania won the toss and elected to bat first

Tasmania 0/4

[silky-smooth]

Tasmania 1/18

[Bresh]

Err... Mark Cleary?

[silky-smooth]

Tasmania 1/28

Tait got the wicket of Cox for 11

[Russian]

Err... Mark Cleary?Late withdrawal with something. Does that help? :p

[go_the_bombers]

Tait is a great bowler won't be long until his in the aussie team!

[silky-smooth]

Lunch:

Tasmania 1st INNS 1/ 40 (32 ov) RR: 1.25
David Dawson 11*
Jamie Cox 11
Michael Bevan 10*
Shaun Tait 1/12

[Blue Red and Gold]

Lunch:

Tasmania 1st INNS 1/ 40 (?? ov)
David Dawson 11*
Jamie Cox 11
Michael Bevan 10*
Shaun Tait 1/??

Looks like it was a pretty boring session with not many runs...was there any rain?

[silky-smooth]

Looks like it was a pretty boring session with not many runs...was there any rain?
No... just 30 overs of very slow cricket.

[Bombers_Forever]

No... just 30 overs of very slow cricket.

Just wait until Bevan enters the arena- king of slow cricket and boosting his average.

[silky-smooth]

Just wait until Bevan enters the arena- king of slow cricket and boosting his average.
Ahhh.... he's already in. He's 10 off about 70 balls.

[Bombers_Forever]

Ahhh.... he's already in. He's 10 off about 70 balls.

Whoops- did not notice. Well that explains everything. Go SA!

[silky-smooth]

Tasmania has reached 1-40 on lunch on the first day of the Pura Cup match against South Australia at Bellerive Oval in Hobart.

Tigers skipper Dan Marsh won the toss and elected to bat, but the hosts lost opener Jamie Cox early before David Dawson (11 no) and Michael Bevan (10 no) settled-in.

They frustrated the visitors for much of the session, going barely at a run an over. Shaun Tait, who had Cox caught by Mark Cosgrove, has 1-12 off nine while Paul Rofe has bowled eight maidens in 11 overs and has only conceded four runs.

[Russian]

Wasn't really paying attention but I think they said Bevan 45, Dawson 31, which would make it roughly 1/90

[PowerKop]

Good to see the youngster Kelly getting a go and it looks like he is doing allright. Will be a gun in my opinion

[ThomasR]

Tasmania 1/116 now - Bevan 50-odd and Dawson 37 I think.

Laying a good foundation particularly after losing Cox early, scoring rate has picked up too (phew).

[silky-smooth]

Not looking good for SA... Tasmania 1/130-odd now. :(

[DaveW]

HOBART, Nov 16 AAP - Scoreboard at tea on the first day of the Pura Cup cricket match between Tasmania and South Australia at Bellerive Oval.
Tasmania 1st Innings
J COX c Cosgrove b Tait 11
D DAWSON not out 47
M BEVAN not out 79

Sundries (11lb 3nb) 14

One wicket for 151

Fall: 17.

Bowling: S Tait 14-5-32-1 (1nb), P Rofe 19-11-21-0, T Kelly 15-5-39-0 (2nb), M Cosgrove 4-2-5-0, D Cullen 12-1-43-0.

Batting time: 242 mins. Overs: 64.

[Russian]

1/185 half an hour after tea, Bevan 105*

[Blue Red and Gold]

Would it be an understatment if I said we need a break through soon? :o :D

[Unwritten_Law]

Hmm makes you wonder why they started out so slowly.

[silky-smooth]

Would it be an understatment if I said we need a break through soon? :o :D
Soon? We need one NOW!!!

[DaveW]

Would it be an understatment if I said we need a break through soon? :o :D
Yeah just a breakthrough or five...

[Blue Red and Gold]

Hmm makes you wonder why they started out so slowly.

Thank Christ they did, if they hadnt could of made the score very ugly, well uglier. :o :(

[silky-smooth]

Soon? We need one NOW!!!
One? Another FOUR or FIVE would be handy.

[silky-smooth]

Thank Christ they did, if they hadnt could of made the score very ugly, well uglier. :o :(
Probably be 1/350-odd by now.

Luckily it is only 1/200-odd now.

[ross gibbs]

Actually 2/201 after 75 overs and that was over half an hour ago

[silky-smooth]

Actually 2/201 after 75 overs and that was over half an hour ago
Wooo hoo.... a wicket. Who was out?

[GrahamH]

5/226

[ThomasR]

GRRRRRRRRRR

Make that 7/226.

It's fair to say our batting has... issues

[Russian]

20 minutes ago it was 6/22-something

[ThomasR]

Bevan made 106, not sure about Dawson, Cox 11, Dighton not many (again) - again, not sure about the rest.

The worrying thing is these collapses aren't just 1 or 2 wickets, we were cruising along at about 2/215 from memory, and now 7/226 - terrible.

At least Bevo stood up again, and Dawson is looking solid as an opener, but Jamie Cox's time must almost be up and fellas like Dighton (not Marsh as he is captain) might need to find a bit of form in grade cricket.

[Russian]

20 minutes ago it was 6/22-somethingI guess that was 226 :p

7/232 now, Tait and Rofe have most of if not all the wickets, wasn't paying attention again :o

Edit: Tait has 4, Rofe has 2, wasn't paying enough attention to remember the runs :p

[ThomasR]

Just a bit more info.. looks like the second new ball got the wickets - Tait 4-55, Rofe 2-31 .. Tassie lost 5/7.

Not Happy Dan

[silky-smooth]

Well... DaveW and Blue Red and Gold, we got the breakthrough, and five more.

[demon21]

another batting slump for tassie changes might have to be made in the batting.

[silky-smooth]

another batting slump for tassie changes might have to be made in the batting.
We are whitnessing the best of South Australia from last season!

[silky-smooth]

Dawson made 73

[The Scarecrow]

At stumps Tassie 7/240.

[DaveW]

Sweet.

[silky-smooth]

Sweet.
Do you have one of the scorecards by AAP?

[DaveW]

Do you have one of the scorecards by AAP?
Eventually, yes.

HOBART Nov 16, AAP - Scoreboard at close of first day of the Pura Cup cricket match between Tasmania and South Australia at Bellerive Oval.
Tasmania 1st Innings
J COX c Cosgrove b Tait 11
D DAWSON lbw b Tait 73
M BEVAN c Cameron b Cosgrove 106
M DIGHTON b Tait 12
M DIVENUTO not out 13
D MARSH c Manou b Rofe 1
S CLINGELEFFER c Blewett b Rofe 0
D WRIGHT c Manou b Tait 0
A GRIFFITH not out 8
Sundries (12lb 4nb) 16
Seven wickets for 240
Fall: 17, 196, 217, 222, 223, 223, 224.

Bowling: S Tait 23-7-61-4 (2nb), P Rofe 29-16-37-2, T Kelly 19-7-47-0 (2nb), M Cosgrove 10-4-29-1, D Cullen 15-1-54-0.

Batting Time: 372 mins. Overs: 96.

[Russian]

Cossie gets the breakthrough again :D

Cleary has a virus

Griffith at 9 :eek:, geez they have a long tail :p

[silky-smooth]

It's looking good for the Redbacks. Tassie 1/196 at one stage then 7/226. :D

[The Scarecrow]

It's looking good for the Redbacks. Tassie 1/196 at one stage then 7/226. :D

I would wait until the Redback start to bat before saying it looks good.

[silky-smooth]

I would wait until the Redback start to bat before saying it looks good.
Why?

It is looking good. Tassie were cruising at 1 for 196 and now they are struggling at 7 for 230.

But true, will have to wait until SA bat. Though they made 392 in their last innings after being 4/26.

[Blue Red and Gold]

Good come back by the Redbacks, its so much nicer being on the other side of a batting collapse.

Tait is in unreal form at the moment, gotta be close to getting a look in soon if one of the Aussie quicks falter (cough cough Lee) he would have to get a look in for the squad.

[silky-smooth]

Good come back by the Redbacks, its so much nicer being on the other side of a batting collapse.

Tait is in unreal form at the moment, gotta be close to getting a look in soon if one of the Aussie quicks falter (cough cough Lee) he would have to get a look in for the squad.
If Tait takes a couple more wickets to finish with 6 in this innings, then takes another five-for in the second innings... what do you reckon the odds are of him being called up for the second test in Adelaide?

I'd say around 50:50. You just gotta hope Brett Lee bowls poorly for NSW and/or Kasprowicz gets injuried or bowls crap in the First Test. Of course, I wouldn't like that to happen but would like to see Tait play in a home test match.

[Adelaide Hawk]

You just gotta hope Brett Lee bowls poorly for NSW and/or Kasprowicz gets injuried or bowls crap in the First Test. Of course, I wouldn't like that to happen but would like to see Tait play in a home test match.

I don't want to see Kasprowicz injured, and I would love to see Brett Lee bowl really well ...... but I would dearly love to see Tait play his 1st Test Match in Adelaide this season.

[Russian]

If Tait takes a couple more wickets to finish with 6 in this innings, then takes another five-for in the second innings... what do you reckon the odds are of him being called up for the second test in Adelaide?None. Lee's figures were ok in the tour match, 1 ING game won't see him drop out of the top 4, if 2 of the quicks were injured I think if it's a normal Adelaide pitch they'd be more likely to play MacGill than get another quick in.

[The Scarecrow]

Only way I could see Tait being called up if one of the Aussie quicks get injured, but if that was to happen, would they pick Andy Bichel? Or Tait?

[silky-smooth]

Only way I could see Tait being called up if one of the Aussie quicks get injured, but if that was to happen, would they pick Andy Bichel? Or Tait?
Both have been great to start the season...

BOWLING M Overs Mdns Runs Wkts Avrge 5 10 Best Stk/Rt RPO
AJ Bichel QLD 2 88.0 27 271 19 14.26 2 1 7/77 27.79 3.08
SW Tait S.A 2 79.2 18 210 17 12.35 2 - 7/99 28.00 2.65


BATTING M Inn NO Runs H.S 50 100 Avrge Ct St
AJ Bichel QLD 2 4 1 39 28* - - 13.00 1 -
SW Tait S.A 2 3 1 69 58 1 - 34.50 - -

[Blue Red and Gold]

Only way I could see Tait being called up if one of the Aussie quicks get injured, but if that was to happen, would they pick Andy Bichel? Or Tait?

Bichel has been just as awesome as Tait so far this season, but I would go for Tait. (showing my bias)

Bichel will not be bowling for Australia for very long, whereas Tait can wear the Baggy green for 10+ years.

Nothing against Bichel as he has been a great player over a long time but we need some youth in our bowling stocks, much the same as Clarke has done for the batting lineup.

[The Scarecrow]

Would it be youth or experince? Bichel might have a little edge over Tait, as I don't think Tait is that good with the bat. But, I would like to see him make it into the Aussie team at one stage.

[Blue Red and Gold]

Would it be youth or experince? Bichel might have a little edge over Tait, as I don't think Tait is that good with the bat. But, I would like to see him make it into the Aussie team at one stage.

The thing that the Australian bowling line up is not missing is experience, they have more than enough.
However they do not have any youth, Dizzy is 29 and Lee, well is past it.

I would like to see Tait in sooner rather than later, his batting is not that bad made a 50 last week, against the likes of Bichel. He is a real hit or miss bloke, but I love seeing a tail ender coming in and swinging the willow. :D

[ThomasR]

Come on, it's only New Zealand. A fine time to blood young players, in my opinion.

Tait's had a sensational start to the season but I think his figures (partly due to the bowling attack around him) flatter him a bit. That said he's definitely the pick of the younger bunch at the moment.

[Russian]

Only way I could see Tait being called up if one of the Aussie quicks get injured, but if that was to happen, would they pick Andy Bichel? Or Tait?I think they'd pick Tait. Can't see them going back to older players like Bichel, Elliot or Bevan unless they're miles ahead of the rest, which they're not.

[sinepari]

The thing that the Australian bowling line up is not missing is experience, they have more than enough.
However they do not have any youth, Dizzy is 29 and Lee, well is past it.

I would like to see Tait in sooner rather than later, his batting is not that bad made a 50 last week, against the likes of Bichel. He is a real hit or miss bloke, but I love seeing a tail ender coming in and swinging the willow. :D

since when do u pick a bowler based on his batting ability. Seriously, if they are good enough to be selected as a bowler, it doesnt matter if they cant bat. Look at mcgrath

[silky-smooth]

since when do u pick a bowler based on his batting ability. Seriously, if they are good enough to be selected as a bowler, it doesnt matter if they cant bat. Look at mcgrath
Yeah... but Tait is a good bowler, and what makes it even better is he can bat.

Remember you only win by scoring more runs. You don't win by taking more wickets.

So if you have two players bowling really well - equal stats etc, but one has a better batting average... add 1 and 1 together and presto!!!! You obviously pick the one that can better.

[Borscht Mat]

Both have been great to start the season...

BOWLING M Overs Mdns Runs Wkts Avrge 5 10 Best Stk/Rt RPO
AJ Bichel QLD 2 88.0 27 271 19 14.26 2 1 7/77 27.79 3.08
SW Tait S.A 2 79.2 18 210 17 12.35 2 - 7/99 28.00 2.65


BATTING M Inn NO Runs H.S 50 100 Avrge Ct St
AJ Bichel QLD 2 4 1 39 28* - - 13.00 1 -
SW Tait S.A 2 3 1 69 58 1 - 34.50 - -


Bichel has had the distinct advantage of course of having the opportunity to bowl at S.A......something Tait will never have....Bichel also does not have to bowl against QLD. ;)

[silky-smooth]

Bichel has had the distinct advantage of course of having the opportunity to bowl at S.A......something Tait will never have....Bichel also does not have to bowl against QLD. ;)
GOLD :D

So true... I'd say Tait is the better of the two then ;)

[eddiesmith]

Bichel and Tait should both be ahead of Lee in the Australia Team.

Maybe Tait should join NSW and he will have a baggygreen by the end of the month

[DaveW]

Yeah... but Tait is a good bowler, and what makes it even better is he can bat.

Remember you only win by scoring more runs. You don't win by taking more wickets.

So if you have two players bowling really well - equal stats etc, but one has a better batting average... add 1 and 1 together and presto!!!! You obviously pick the one that can better.
And you can't win without taking 20 wickets.

Australia's policy of picking their four best bowlers has served them well for years now. I can't remember the last time we picked a Test player for their all-round abilities.


*waits for someone to say that Gilchrist is an all-rounder*

[YOTC]

And you can't win without taking 20 wickets.

Australia's policy of picking their four best bowlers has served them well for years now. I can't remember the last time we picked a Test player for their all-round abilities.


*waits for someone to say that Gilchrist is an all-rounder*
Gilchrist is an all-rounder ;)

[eddiesmith]

Well Gilly wasnt picked because he was the better keeper but his batting ability originally

[silky-smooth]

Gilchrist is an all-rounder ;)
I second that!

[YOTC]

Well Gilly wasnt picked because he was the better keeper but his batting ability originally
LMAO! Let me guess, Darren Berry was better than gilly? :rolleyes:

[eddiesmith]

Seccombe, Berry and Healy were all better keepers than Gilly. He was picked because of his batting and his keeping has improved dramatically since. Bit like Haddin now. Haddin is not the second best keeper but his batting and his baggy blue cap gets him over the line

[silky-smooth]

LMAO! Let me guess, Darren Berry was better than gilly? :rolleyes:
Maybe with the gloves. Certainly up to the stumps he was.

[eddiesmith]

Gilly wasnt that great back in those days. Now he would get selected with no complaints for keeping

Berry and Seccombe were always rated the best keepers in the country with most unable to seperate them

Berry was definately unbeatable up to the stumps

[silky-smooth]

Berry was definately unbeatable up to the stumps
I can't think of any other wicketkeeper that was ever better up to the stumps than Darren Berry. He was pure class.

[Bombers_Forever]

At stumps Tassie 7/240.

A fair collapse from where they were. If they can get the total over 300 they would be confident of get 1st innings points.

Just on the Bichel vs Tait battle, I am biased being Bich's biggest fan. However, both deserve a spot in the Test side ahead of Brett "Soft as Weet Bix" Lee. The only thing in my view that is holding Tait slightly back is the number of extras he bowls with his action. If he can keep the wides, no balls and byes down, strike rate is very good.

[Blue Red and Gold]

A fair collapse from where they were. If they can get the total over 300 they would be confident of get 1st innings points.

Just on the Bichel vs Tait battle, I am biased being Bich's biggest fan. However, both deserve a spot in the Test side ahead of Brett "Soft as Weet Bix" Lee. The only thing in my view that is holding Tait slightly back is the number of extras he bowls with his action. If he can keep the wides, no balls and byes down, strike rate is very good.

Brett- bix now :rolleyes:

[Unwritten_Law]

For ********s sake.

If it wasn't for Dawson and Bevan we would be completely humiliated so far this season.

[silky-smooth]

For ********s sake.

If it wasn't for Dawson and Bevan we would be completely humiliated so far this season.
David Dawson
v WA 40 & 123*
v Vic 11 & 10
v SA 73

Michael Bevan
v Vic 19 & 167*
v SA 106


Stats M Runs Avg
Dawson 3* 257 64.25
Bevan 2* 292 146.00

Tasmania's scores this season
v WA 258 & 244
v Vic 101 & 366
v SA 8-240

Tasmania
Total Runs: 1209
Total Wkts: 48
Runs/Wkts: 25.18

Bevan and Dawson
Total Runs: 549
Total Wkts: 6
Runs/Wkts: 91.50

% of the team's runs scored
by Bevan and Dawson: 45.4%

[silky-smooth]

What Tasmania's scores would be like without Bevan and Dawson:
v WA 218 & 121 (an innings loss)
v Vic 71 & 189 (a loss by 334 runs)
v SA 8-61

[Unwritten_Law]

When I typed that I was thinking that without those two Tassie would struggle to have reached 500 from the 5* innings. It was actually 660, so not quite so bad :p

[DaveW]

Tasmania 8/269

Griffth c Manou b Rofe 11

Di Venuto 31* Doherty 4*

[silky-smooth]

So all 8 wickets have come from pace bowlers...

Tait 4, Rofe 3, Cosgrove 1

[silky-smooth]

Tasmania 8/329

Di Venuto 59*

:mad: :mad: :mad:

[Bombers_Forever]

Brett- bix now :rolleyes:

Oh yeah. Sorry- I forgot about this big Limited Edition Weet Bix the crowds are racing to get! :rolleyes:

Tassie doing well- they get to 350 plus, suddenly it is a fair target.

[Unwritten_Law]

Looks like the pitch is playing the same way as the game last week against the vics.

Tough to get in, but once you do get in, the pitch isn't all that bad.