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Do or die and the boys responded in "sensational" style
Hewitt - surprisingly good
Bighlands - basically was the most important player on the field!
Mcleod was sensational, and Jarman kicked goal of the week/month! :)
Now we must win 2 out of Kangaroos/Hawthorn/Freo
My votes
3. R. Bighlands (and no i am not smoking weed at this present time)
2. A. Mcleod
1. B. Hart
SENSATIONAL! :cool:
Just about the complete team performance, everyone played well, some more outstandingly than others but they all contributed. Some of our middle tier players, like Shirley, Welsh, Byrne played good games, clean with the ball and hard at it.
Midfield was the area we had to control to win and we did that rather easily, it was something like 19-3 centre bounce clearances. Biglands was just huge in the middle, he beat both Porter and Allan hands down, what an effort.
Stevens up forward helped, got back into the game after a slow start and was quite handy. Hewitt performed surprisingly good too, the backline could be his position. Smart answered the critics well by shutting down the superstar Kouta, Shirley limited Campo and McLeod was just superb all night.
Bit surprised we didn't use Burton, Marsh or Eccles more but the coach must have thought we didn't really need to make any changes til the end. The Blues obviously weren't switched on tonight in a massive way, but we can only beat the team out there against us.
Overall, an extremely good 4 quarter performance, the trick will be replicating it in the upcoming weeks. :)
Crows.ok
12 Aug 2001, 02:23
The best win by the crows all year!
About time the team came good!
Not only di the stars shine (Mc Leod, Jarman, Goodwin et al), but some problematic others cmae good .... Biglands, Byrne, Shirley and others a;;; had great games. Stevens is an absolute bonus.
Bring on the roos next week. I feel the Crows are ripe for the challenge!
Thirteen wins is still a strong possibility!!!!!!!!!
What do you think, Macca?
I would like to personally thank the Crows. Their performances over the last 2 week has basically secured a top 4 postion for Port. Thanks :D
Crows.ok, it was a good win but don't get to carried away. 13 wins, you have to be kidding. The Crows only concerned should be their next match, to start talking about 13 wins is a bit stupid. You will be lucky to win next week let alone win all your remaining games. As the saying goes, one win doesn't make a season.:)
Originally posted by carb70
I would like to personally thank the Crows. Their performances over the last 2 week has basically secured a top 4 postion for Port. Thanks :D
Crows.ok, it was a good win but don't get to carried away. 13 wins, you have to be kidding. The Crows only concerned should be their next match, to start talking about 13 wins is a bit stupid. You will be lucky to win next week let alone win all your remaining games. As the saying goes, one win doesn't make a season.:)
Talking about not getting carried away - the Power didn't exactly impress this weekend did they. The Crows beat St Kildas by 97 points, the Power were lucky to scrape a win by 11. Perhaps they are already in finals mode instead of making sure they are in the top four first.
Macca19
12 Aug 2001, 19:57
Originally posted by Crows.ok
The best win by the crows all year!
About time the team came good!
Not only di the stars shine (Mc Leod, Jarman, Goodwin et al), but some problematic others cmae good .... Biglands, Byrne, Shirley and others a;;; had great games. Stevens is an absolute bonus.
Bring on the roos next week. I feel the Crows are ripe for the challenge!
Thirteen wins is still a strong possibility!!!!!!!!!
What do you think, Macca?
Welcome back Crows.ok....show up for the finals did you :rolleyes:
I didnt watch the game...well i was at a pub and was looking at the tele every few minutes there but wasnt really concentrating. Just noticing that Adelaides lad kept increasing each time i looked and how Carltons score tended to be the same for about 40 minutes
Macca19
12 Aug 2001, 20:01
Originally posted by ozgeek
Talking about not getting carried away - the Power didn't exactly impress this weekend did they. The Crows beat St Kildas by 97 points, the Power were lucky to scrape a win by 11. Perhaps they are already in finals mode instead of making sure they are in the top four first.
whats your point?? Teams are allowed off days. And by the way Port showed no emotion in singing the song i think it shows they were dissapointed. Maybe St Kilda finally showed the heart of a real footy side - which they didnt show against the crows
We also beat Essendon - which you didnt do
We beat Freo by 92 points but you only won by 2-3 goals
We also beat you...twice
Whats my point?? There is none - just like your 'point'.
Crows.ok
12 Aug 2001, 21:24
Originally posted by carb70
I would like to personally thank the Crows. Their performances over the last 2 week has basically secured a top 4 postion for Port. Thanks :D
Crows.ok, it was a good win but don't get to carried away. 13 wins, you have to be kidding. The Crows only concerned should be their next match, to start talking about 13 wins is a bit stupid. You will be lucky to win next week let alone win all your remaining games. As the saying goes, one win doesn't make a season.:)
Sorry, carb70, I didn't mean to get carried away, but I did feel it was a good win. 53 points when all the tipping seemed to have Carlton down as the winners by about that much. A 100 point turn around over what many people seemed to think would be the outcome, that has got to say something, surely?
I think Crows will be able to beat North next week, and will beat them easily if Crows can reproduce that same form (as against Carlton) and deliver another consistent 4 quarter effort. Even if Crows revert a bit to type, like they played against Port for example when Crows lost their way for about half the game, I think even that sort of form will be good enough to account for North.
No, my post was really a gentle dig at Macca, and his ideas about how Crows would go:
- 7 - 10 wins, (no more than 10)
- lower than 13th.
That was out 10th win Macca, you are going to be as far off the mark about Adelaides season as those tipsters were about the Carlton v Adelaide game.
I'd say you can give Macca a hard time about his guesses of the Crows performance this year if you picked Port to be 3rd after round 19.
If not, what exactly is your point?
If a football season was predictable it would be boring.
Crows are around where I thought they'd be, struggling to make the finals, I was actually closer on where they will be than I was on my own team.
Macca19
12 Aug 2001, 22:32
Originally posted by Crows.ok
No, my post was really a gentle dig at Macca, and his ideas about how Crows would go:
- 7 - 10 wins, (no more than 10)
- lower than 13th.
That was out 10th win Macca, you are going to be as far off the mark about Adelaides season as those tipsters were about the Carlton v Adelaide game.
what a surprise you showed up just for that!!! Pity you havent been around at all in the last 8 weeks...why is that???
so what - i said no more than 10 - you have 10.
You also said Port would not improve, and in fact would get worse and that crows would improve by more than port.
Am i having a dig at you for that? No!!!
Go back to your hole Crows.ok. Your predictions for Port were more far off than what mine have been for crows.
Sorry you must be the supreme tipper. Youve obviously got 152 out of 152 tips right in the games this year...youve also no doubt tipped the current ladder the way it is as well :rolleyes:
Sorry for being human and being wrong (even tho im not at the moment)
Macca19
12 Aug 2001, 22:40
Originally posted by Crows.ok
I think Crows will be able to beat North next week, and will beat them easily if Crows can reproduce that same form (as against Carlton) and deliver another consistent 4 quarter effort
North were pretty bloody good against Geelong on friday night too. Also pretty bloody good against brisbane and essendon and had a crap game last week.
You will struggle to "easily beat" North if they produce anywhere near the form they produced three of the last 4 weeks.
In fact Norths form over hte last month has been a lot better than the Crows.
North should win the match if they produce the same form from friday compared to crows form from last night. North are probably 20 points better at the moment than the crows.
They have just as good midfield (grant, harvey, pickett, simpson) a better attack than the crows, and a worse defence than the crows.
Overall i think they will just win by 20 points going on homeg round advantage
Macca19
12 Aug 2001, 22:41
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for some wierd reason my above post just posted twice so i will remove it with this message as i cannot delete the post with the current bigfooty problems
Shinboners
12 Aug 2001, 23:17
Originally posted by Crows.ok
Even if Crows revert a bit to type, like they played against Port for example when Crows lost their way for about half the game, I think even that sort of form will be good enough to account for North.
And you have the gall to come onto the North board and say that the North fans are getting a bit cocky about next week?
Adelaide are NOT of the same quality as Essendon and Brisbane, and hence, cannot afford to "lose their way" for half a game against North Melbourne. Do that, and you more than likely lose.
If the Crows display the form they did against Carlton, you will beat us. From what I saw, your team played some damn good football. But if your boys put in a half-arsed effort, don't expect the four points to be heading over to Adelaide.
Jars458
13 Aug 2001, 11:18
Originally posted by Macca19
North were pretty bloody good against Geelong on friday night too. Also pretty bloody good against brisbane and essendon and had a crap game last week.
You will struggle to "easily beat" North if they produce anywhere near the form they produced three of the last 4 weeks.
In fact Norths form over hte last month has been a lot better than the Crows.
North should win the match if they produce the same form from friday compared to crows form from last night. North are probably 20 points better at the moment than the crows.
They have just as good midfield (grant, harvey, pickett, simpson) a better attack than the crows, and a worse defence than the crows.
Overall i think they will just win by 20 points going on homeg round advantage
I agree that we will have to play well to beat them.
However, our away form is sensational and we LOVE playing at Colonial.
Is a 107 point loss to the Swans 20 points better form than ours?????
I think it will be a close game.
I will tip the Kangas though as it seems to help the Crows to win when I tip against them ie every time this year.
Macca19
13 Aug 2001, 11:26
Originally posted by Jars458
I agree that we will have to play well to beat them.
However, our away form is sensational and we LOVE playing at Colonial.
Is a 107 point loss to the Swans 20 points better form than ours?????
I think it will be a close game.
I will tip the Kangas though as it seems to help the Crows to win when I tip against them ie every time this year.
No, 107 point loss isnt 20 point better form - but i did say three of the last four games. Crows havent produced near a game North played against Essendon all year (my opinion) and they were also very good against Brisbane.
In the end it doesnt matter how well they played against Other teams...as Adelaide lost easily to Sydney at Football Park too (you could add another 5 goals for 'home advantage' and it would be a big loss too)
In the end its how the two playing teams match up...past results in recent games count for nought. The midfields are even...both have very good midfield players. I find Norths Attack to be more potent - with Rocca, Carey, Mckernan down there...as well as Pickett, Grant, Harvey and King from the midfield who can easily kick goals.
However, i think Adelaides defence is better than Norths which could stop Norths attack. Only problem is whether or not they have the manpower to stop all of Norths tall men.
Blues2001
13 Aug 2001, 12:30
Well done crows, you absolutely slaughtered our sorry arses.
Before this game, Carlton had been competitive in every single game this year, our biggest losing margin was 27 pts, and our avg losing margin was 11 pts, lowest in the AFL.
So I never thought we could get so comprehensively thrashed:(
I was pretty confident about the game, mainly because your record at home this year hasn't been very good at all (away record is probably better?). What a shock to my system.
I don't understand why we can't follow up a win over Essendon with a semi-decent performance:mad: :mad:
But it would have had to be an excellent performance by us to beat you on Saturday night.
You seem to be our bogey side at the moment - if we finish 5th (which is possible) I hope you guys don't get 8th. I'd rather play Bulldogs, Roos or Pies right now.
Originally posted by ozgeek
Talking about not getting carried away - the Power didn't exactly impress this weekend did they. The Crows beat St Kildas by 97 points, the Power were lucky to scrape a win by 11. Perhaps they are already in finals mode instead of making sure they are in the top four first.
Hang on a minute ozgeek, I rather win by 11 points and be 3rd on the ladder than win by 97 points and be 9th. The Crows might of beat the Saint by 97 points but what have they done in their other games?. Not much going by your ladder positon.
Also Port did have 2 huge games prior to the Saints game so there was also a chance that this game was going to be a bit of a let down. Anyway that preformance probably is a wake up call which is good just before the finals.
Originally posted by Crows.ok
Sorry, carb70, I didn't mean to get carried away, but I did feel it was a good win. 53 points when all the tipping seemed to have Carlton down as the winners by about that much. A 100 point turn around over what many people seemed to think would be the outcome, that has got to say something, surely?
I think Crows will be able to beat North next week, and will beat them easily if Crows can reproduce that same form (as against Carlton) and deliver another consistent 4 quarter effort. Even if Crows revert a bit to type, like they played against Port for example when Crows lost their way for about half the game, I think even that sort of form will be good enough to account for North.
No, my post was really a gentle dig at Macca, and his ideas about how Crows would go:
- 7 - 10 wins, (no more than 10)
- lower than 13th.
That was out 10th win Macca, you are going to be as far off the mark about Adelaides season as those tipsters were about the Carlton v Adelaide game.
Crows.ok, I agree it was a good win, I was justing having a go at your statement of 13 wins. I along with Macca also agreed that the Crows would be lucky to win 7-10 games but if you beat the Kangaroos this week then you probably will win 13 games. Which will be a great effort on the Crows behave. I'm already starting to have nightmares about a Crows-Port finals happening this year and it would be a disaster if Port lost to the Crows in a final. I would have to leave the country.:D
Shinboners
13 Aug 2001, 15:38
Originally posted by Jars458
I agree that we will have to play well to beat them.
However, our away form is sensational and we LOVE playing at Colonial.
I'm very wary of the Crows at Colonial. If it was at the MCG, I'd be a just a touch bit more confident.
The Crows strength is in the midfield....at their best, they would be better than North's at our best. Our strength is the forward line. If they maximise their opportunities, I can't see the Crows forwards keeping up in a shootout.
Hard to pick a winner....it could just come down to which ever team is more switched on.
Actually Shinners, I'd be a touch more confident at the 'G' than Colonial, our guys really lift at the home of football and generally play well there. Also, at the MCG, outside influences like the wind play a bigger role than in the pristine confines of Colonial where marking for your tall targets should be unhindered. Anyway, as long as the game is away from Footy Park I'm happy.
We haven't played a couple of good games in a row for quite a while now, so I doubt whether we can do it on Friday, I just hope our boys lift again and don't suffer a letdown after our great win. The Kangas will be up to it, I'm certain of that, they'll be confident and favoured to capture victory. Our boys have to absorb the early pressure, then try to counter attack. It should be a beauty!! :)
Shinboners
13 Aug 2001, 16:45
Ant
Now that you mention it, didn't you guys have a very good win against Richmond at the MCG? Now that I think of it more, we've lost against Carlton, Essendon, and Hawthorn there...we've only beaten Melbourne (and who hasn't?).
Fair point on the MCG, but (and I don't know whether this is an illusion due to the G being open air and the Colonial having a shut roof), with the space, we could use our talls to isolate your defenders....but the flipside, as you pointed out, is that the ball handling skills of Mcleod, Jarman, Johnson, Goodwin etc. could have a new edge.
I posted this on the North forum, but I'll repeat it here. No-one will want to meet either North Melbourne or Adelaide in the finals. Both our sides have finals experience, premiership players, and more importantly, individuals who can win the game by themselves. Neither of us could win the flag, but we're good enough to screw up some other team. :D
Too true Shinners, I'd love to sneak 8th and play Richmond/Carlton at the MCG, there'd be no pressure on us at all, we could just go out there and try to win the game.
Don't sell the Kangas short either Shinners, you've got the team to go all the way, especially if you play your finals in Melbourne. Your form recently shows you can beat the best in the competition, not saying you will, or that you are a good chance to do so, but you CAN. As for the Crows, we're still decidedly lacking up forward, a key tall, talented forward, we really couldn't match the best teams playing close to their optimum. I reckon the Kangas can. :)
Crows.ok
13 Aug 2001, 17:28
Originally posted by Macca19
what a surprise you showed up just for that!!! Pity you havent been around at all in the last 8 weeks...why is that???
so what - i said no more than 10 - you have 10.
You also said Port would not improve, and in fact would get worse and that crows would improve by more than port.
Am i having a dig at you for that? No!!!
Go back to your hole Crows.ok. Your predictions for Port were more far off than what mine have been for crows.
Sorry you must be the supreme tipper. Youve obviously got 152 out of 152 tips right in the games this year...youve also no doubt tipped the current ladder the way it is as well :rolleyes:
Sorry for being human and being wrong (even tho im not at the moment)
Actually, Macca, you are wrong.
You must have me confused for someone else who tipped a poor season for Port.
I thought Port and Crows both would finish in the lower half of the eight. I don't recall posting any prediction at all for Ports finish this year, but if I did that is what it would have been. Seventh to ninth.
Now admittedly Port have done considerably better than that this year, but that has precisely nothing to do with your posting "LOWER THAN 13th" on this board .
I didn't post any such doom and gloom prediction on Powers board, now, did I?
That is where you were soooooooooo in the wrong, and remain so.
Also - what does the fact that I have been overseas have to do with anything?
To Port01 - I have no real beef with you at all. You didn't come on this board crying doom and gloom for Crows, not to my knowledge anyway. As for the not boring bit I concur whole heartedly with you Port 01. Its the unpredictability that makes the game interesting.
Its also having gentle digs at detractors that makes it fun. So I intend to go on doing just exactly that, and I don't give a fig if you Port01 think I should refrain. Nor if Macca gets all upset with me, either. It just adds to the enjoyment.
Jars458
13 Aug 2001, 17:45
Don't worry about Port01 - he's an Essendon bandwaggoner anyway.
Lets hope teh Power can give Geelong and the Western Bulldogs a kicking in the next couple of weeks so that they are well and truly out of finals contention.
topjars
13 Aug 2001, 19:10
Originally posted by QT
Do or die and the boys responded in "sensational" style
Hewitt - surprisingly good
Bighlands - basically was the most important player on the field!
Mcleod was sensational, and Jarman kicked goal of the week/month! :)
Now we must win 2 out of Kangaroos/Hawthorn/Freo
My votes
3. R. Bighlands (and no i am not smoking weed at this present time)
2. A. Mcleod
1. B. Hart
SENSATIONAL! :cool:
It sure was a sensational win!!
I wouldnt've liked to be pickin the votes.:mad:
The Tiser shows McLeod,Hart and Ricciuto.
Im with you, Biglands derserved three.
Maybe he read the rumour and innuendo last week in relation to trading with Pavlich. In any case IF he can back it up against the Roos he'll have done well.
Thought James Byne showed a bit in the clinches too.
Its amazing what a 4 qtr TEAM effort can do.:D :D
Im glad the Roos had a thumper against the Cats...it should rule out complacency
Crows.ok
13 Aug 2001, 19:50
Originally posted by Shinboners
I'm very wary of the Crows at Colonial. If it was at the MCG, I'd be a just a touch bit more confident.
The Crows strength is in the midfield....at their best, they would be better than North's at our best. Our strength is the forward line. If they maximise their opportunities, I can't see the Crows forwards keeping up in a shootout.
Hard to pick a winner....it could just come down to which ever team is more switched on.
I feel it is hard to pick a winner for this game. I think that Crows have hit some pretty decent form in their last game ... but that is part of the problem. Crows run of really decent form currently stands at just that one game. I fear that the form could disappear just as quickly as it came.
North also had a very respectable showing against Geelong. Like Carlton, Geelong had a lot to play for and North made them look inadequate.
The game is in Melbourne, so that may give North a slight edge, but then again Crows record in away games this year is pretty good.
Very hard to pick a winner.
That does not necessarily mean it will be a close game, but one feels that a close game is far more likely than a blowout.
I'm hoping that Crows can win it. Surely the motivation is high enough, I guess for both teams.
Macca19
13 Aug 2001, 20:01
Originally posted by Crows.ok
Now admittedly Port have done considerably better than that this year, but that has precisely nothing to do with your posting "LOWER THAN 13th" on this board .
Its also having gentle digs at detractors that makes it fun. So I intend to go on doing just exactly that, and I don't give a fig if you Port01 think I should refrain. Nor if Macca gets all upset with me, either. It just adds to the enjoyment.
You enjoy bending the truth a lot dont you!!! Youve done it before and you did it up there. I actually said If the Crows fall in a hole and have a real bad season they will finish lower than 13th. I also stated if they ahve a good season they will go between 8-12 and win about 10 games.
You can state i said "LOWER THAN 13th" all you like - but please remember to also put in there that i said IF the crows have a real bad season.
Friendly ribbing the opposition is half the fun of football!!! Dont worry - you dont upset me and never will - unless you kill one of my family members
Shinboners
13 Aug 2001, 20:14
Originally posted by Crows.ok
North also had a very respectable showing against Geelong. Like Carlton, Geelong had a lot to play for and North made them look inadequate.
I think your win against Carlton carries more weight than our win against Geelong. The Blues also had something to play for (a strong finish to the year to set up a strong challenge for the flag), but you guys put so much pressure on them that they cracked and got thrashed. Geelong were almost as awful on Friday night as my beloved Roos were against Sydney the previous week.
Shinboners
13 Aug 2001, 20:18
Originally posted by ant
Too true Shinners, I'd love to sneak 8th and play Richmond/Carlton at the MCG, there'd be no pressure on us at all, we could just go out there and try to win the game.
Don't sell the Kangas short either Shinners, you've got the team to go all the way, especially if you play your finals in Melbourne. Your form recently shows you can beat the best in the competition, not saying you will, or that you are a good chance to do so, but you CAN. As for the Crows, we're still decidedly lacking up forward, a key tall, talented forward, we really couldn't match the best teams playing close to their optimum. I reckon the Kangas can. :)
Well, taking a look at our record this year, the only top 8 teams we've beaten were Port Adelaide (in Canberra and in the middle of their slump) and Collingwood, albeit when the Pies were in good form. I think our team can make a good cameo, but we would need an unbelievable amount of luck to go all the way.
I wouldn't mind if the Crows get into the finals........if the Crows played a final in Melbourne, I'd go just for the sheer pleasure of watching McLeod and Jarman play.
Anyway, we'll see what happens next Friday! :)
All I can say is that I am extremely nervous bout this friday night.
Shinners do us a favour and slip a few pills in the drinks of Carey, Rocca, Grant and Pickett
:(
Yep QT, I'm nervous too, there's a real tingling kind of excitement attached to this game, even this early in the week. It's a real BIG game, Friday night, at Colonial, against the rampaging Roos, finals hopes on the line, outside of Showdowns I don't think we've played in such a game since the '98 finals. I just hope we don't get embarassed and put up a good showing. I'm having visions of Carey, Rocca and McKernan marking everything in sight and kicking 11 in the first quarter :( :eek:
Shinboners
13 Aug 2001, 22:13
This is turning into a battle of the pessimists isn't it?
While you're having visions of Carey, Rocca, and McKernan running rampant, I'm having visions of McLoed and Jarman slipping their way past gang tackles, kicking goals from impossible angles and doing it with such style and beauty that one cannot help but applaud.
But I agree with Ant, the more I think about this game, the more nervous I get, but strangely, the more I'm looking forward to it.
Originally posted by Shinboners
I'm having visions of McLoed and Jarman slipping their way past gang tackles, kicking goals from impossible angles and doing it with such style and beauty that one cannot help but applaud.
Applaud? APPLAUD?????
Hey buddy, I might have to get Damir to pay you a visit, with his home made grappa, the drink that personifies anger and hatred!