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Gary Kirsten knew Hansie Cronje was a match fixer because he ate at Hungry Jacks and not fine restaurants (todays Hun) :confused: :confused:
Gary Kirsten knew Hansie Cronje was a match fixer because he ate at Hungry Jacks and not fine restaurants (todays Hun) :confused: :confused:
It's true. I see Indian bookies every time I visit Hungry Jacks.
gadj1976
3 Dec 2004, 06:59
Pardon, have I missed reading a paragraph there somewhere???????
That's the dumbest thing I've heard for ages!
Here's the article
http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,11573342-23212,00.html
Gary Kirsten knew Hansie Cronje was a match fixer because he ate at Hungry Jacks and not fine restaurants (todays Hun) :confused: :confused:
Another reason not to read selected exerpts on BF.
StarBoy i thought u were a bit more thorough than that :confused:
silky-smooth
3 Dec 2004, 09:33
Here's the article
http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,11573342-23212,00.html
That's a very good read that, and very interesting.
I never knew he pulled the whole team in for a meeting, WITHOUT THE COACH.
And then to say that Cronje said - they need to be have scored no more than 25 after 8 overs, with one wicket needing to fall - himself, Gary Kirsten.
That is just all sickening. IMO, I'm glad Conje was banned for life. He saw cricket as a greedy sport, and was taking a sick advantage of his power.
That's a very good read that, and very interesting.
I never knew he pulled the whole team in for a meeting, WITHOUT THE COACH.
And then to say that Cronje said - they need to be have scored no more than 25 after 8 overs, with one wicket needing to fall - himself, Gary Kirsten.
That is just all sickening. IMO, I'm glad Conje was banned for life. He saw cricket as a greedy sport, and was taking a sick advantage of his power.
apparantly the reason that Rhodes, Cullinan... i forget which others, retired from test cricket was due to this.
Cameron_K
3 Dec 2004, 09:48
Its awful to read these kind of articles. Even when It did become public it was hard to believe a cricketer in which I looked up to was involved. Just brings it to the surface even more which can only be seen as a good thing.
Lets hope the authorities are getting on top of this kind of behaviour and we don't see any scandals like this again in the future.
Another reason not to read selected exerpts on BF.
StarBoy i thought u were a bit more thorough than that :confused:
Mate apologies if you think I was trying to sensationalise but I don't think what I said was taken out of context. How do you make this part out:
"I smiled back and shrugged my shoulders. He continued the conversation by asking why I would want to waste money on an expensive restaurant when you could get perfectly adequate food for a quarter of the price in a cheap restaurant.
"It was a small example but it was the moment I knew something had gone very wrong and it disturbed me.
"I couldn't get the idea out of my head he would rather eat a burger than have a very pleasant meal. He was very wealthy but far too driven by it. I think our relationship changed a bit that day."
Mate apologies if you think I was trying to sensationalise but I don't think what I said was taken out of context. How do you make this part out:
your initial quote seemed like an absurd conclusion to make, but Kirsten talks of the power money had over the man. In that context, it makes more sense.
Your post makes it seem like Kirsten would suspect even me of match fixing if i chose to eat at a burger chain.
Cooldude
3 Dec 2004, 11:50
So, enlight me here, Gary was saying just 'cause Cronje prefered Burger Kings than an expensive restaurant just because he can save some money, suspected him for being greedy/matchfixing?
Sorry but I just don't get that part...
blackcat
3 Dec 2004, 14:01
it makes a salient point, Kerten's point, that is how that a man, who on the surface appears to be a courageous leader with determination, had an irrational compulsivity to money. His life's philosphy was underpinned by this and he was susceptible to any monetary inducement, ethical or otherwise.
Steve Waugh is notorious for his inclination in this regard, yet he does not compromise his ethics and morals to fix a game.
In regards to Steve Waugh, personally, the whole Madras Rubber Factory - MRF bat endorsement was an action I disagreed with. He had the opportunity to auction his batting face to the highest bidder and we live in an open capitalist society, so in the means of operating business practices, it was rational and sound. However Gunn and Moore were (I do not the full details) not given priority as a company supporting and supported by the cricket community.
This might be ironic, because I believe as a young player Waugh was with Allen and Symonds (?they had a bull on the logo) so he moved to G&M for $ and moved on to MRF for $$$. My point was he might have had loyalty to GM for there sponsorship over the years, and as a small manufacturer, they could not afford to pay Waugh the house and shopfront.
Money talks I suppose, but the late 90's till present, sponsorships by cigarette manufacturers (Kings) and MRF have a distinct feel of Tony Greig sporting memorabilia about them.
Money Talks, and Hansie's plane does not fly.
I enjoyed the fact when I clicked on the foxsports article, I scrolled down to finish reading and the advertisement at the bottom was for betting on the Cricket at the TAB.