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Portmagpies
19 Dec 2004, 09:50
First he questions Rick Ponting's captaincy, now he's leading the call (again) for Boof's sacking.
Must be putting his hand up to replace 'dial-a-quote' Harvey.
Does anyone actually listen to this goon?
bunsen burner
19 Dec 2004, 10:01
Ponting has made some questionable decisions lately. As a captain he is out of form. Hughes has every right as a cricket commentator to air this view. I'd be looking at dropping Lehmann too. He's 35 odd and hasn't performed. At that age you really have to play well to keep your spot. If Lehmann doesn't perform in the next two tests I have no doubt that he will be replaced by Katich. And I wouldn't be upset nor surprised if he was replaced for the second test.
docker_azza
19 Dec 2004, 10:08
Ponting has made some questionable decisions lately. As a captain he is out of form. Hughes has every right as a cricket commentator to air this view. I'd be looking at dropping Lehmann too. He's 35 odd and hasn't performed. At that age you really have to play well to keep your spot. If Lehmann doesn't perform in the next two tests I have no doubt that he will be replaced by Katich. And I wouldn't be upset nor surprised if he was replaced for the second test.
Agreed
Same here.
I much prefer Kimberly to Terry Alderman who reminds me of the computer from "hitchhikers guide to the galaxy".
Yeah Boof is under the hammer but surely he must be given at least another test match. He has been in good form in the one day games, he made 80 odd in the last test match, and one bad game. I know there is a lot of pressure in the Australian team but he should be given another match, if then he fails again, I think dropping him from the side would be fair but dont jump the gun.
Jim Maxwell doesn't seem to listen to Kim, just talks over the top of him. As BB has said, Ponting has made some odd decisions, and Boof's form has been far from convincing of late, even more so considering Katich was stiff to be dropped. Valid questions raised by Kim there.
Adelaide Hawk
19 Dec 2004, 13:28
I think a lot of Hughes' criticisms and observations have been correct ones. The disappointing thing is that Kim seems to have forgotten just how hard it can get out in the middle. The way he talks you'd think he was the greatest cricketer ever to captain Australia. He forgets he didn't always get things right himself at times. Today he is questioning the mental toughness of certain players .... who was it who resigned in tears KIm?
I think a lot of Hughes' criticisms and observations have been correct ones. The disappointing thing is that Kim seems to have forgotten just how hard it can get out in the middle. The way he talks you'd think he was the greatest cricketer ever to captain Australia. He forgets he didn't always get things right himself at times. Today he is questioning the mental toughness of certain players .... who was it who resigned in tears KIm?
I agree with Hughes on the above, but then Glenn Mitchell was bringing up Taits and Nicholsons stats and Hughes says ''doesnt matter Lee is better blah blah..how do I know? I am the expert''
Umm Kim GM had valid points and was also having a go at CAs 12th man selection policy
Tenacious Kane
19 Dec 2004, 15:20
He's a goon because he questions a South Australian?
His comments on Ponting were spot on, and his comments about Lehmann are also correct.
I think most like Darren Lehmann, but he is 34 and has averaged something like 26 in the last year.
Hardly convincing, and hardly cause to keep a younger man out of the team.
He's a goon because he questions a South Australian?
His comments on Ponting were spot on, and his comments about Lehmann are also correct.
I think most like Darren Lehmann, but he is 34 and has averaged something like 26 in the last year.
Hardly convincing, and hardly cause to keep a younger man out of the team.
I am a South Aussie and I believe its time to go..............Darren Lehmann
Being a good bloke doesnt mean much if your not making runs. Kim said its not his getting out that concerns its HOW he gets out, valid point IMO
dr nick
19 Dec 2004, 16:05
I heard Peter Roebuck air very similar views yesterday about Ponting and Lehmann. Also his column in the sun herald today is very critical of Pontings captaincy.
The difference between Harvey and Hughes is that every time Harvey talks its just an attempt to demean modern cricket in order to heighten his own importance and the era in which he played. I think Hughes calls it as he sees it. I dont remember him ever talking up his own abilities.
OldSchool
19 Dec 2004, 16:23
First he questions Rick Ponting's captaincy, now he's leading the call (again) for Boof's sacking.
Must be putting his hand up to replace 'dial-a-quote' Harvey.
Does anyone actually listen to this goon?
I think there is some merit in what he is saying although it does not come over that well.
Boof has not not done enough of late and it's the manner of his dismissals that is concerning. I think he should be dropped for the next test so Hughes it quite within his rights to question his worth.
Ponting is still a bit underdone but there is no real problem there.
Portmagpies
19 Dec 2004, 16:27
The way everyone carries on about Katich, you'd think he plundered the attacks in India instead of averaging 39. An 'out-of-form' Ponting (fresh from a 98 BTW) has put up similar figures.
It's not as if Katich made it impossible for the selectors to leave him out. Boof will be safe for the rest of the summer.
And for the worst test captain in cricket history to be criticizing anyone's captaincy is one of the funniest things I've ever heard.
Despite Punter's tactical shortcomings, Australia still won by an innings and plenty I believe.
OldSchool
19 Dec 2004, 16:31
The way everyone carries on about Katich, you'd think he plundered the attacks in India instead of averaging 39. An 'out-of-form' Ponting (fresh from a 98 BTW) has put up similar figures.
It's not as if Katich made it impossible for the selectors to leave him out. Boof will be safe for the rest of the summer.
And for Kim 'the worst test captain in cricket history' to be criticizing anyone's captaincy is one of the funniest things I've ever heard.Surely this thread is about the quality of Hughes' comments not his own captaincy record ?
I think you are right about Boof but he should go for the way he is getting himself out.
frankrizzo
19 Dec 2004, 16:57
To just look at the basic average for katich in India is unfair, he played some vital innings at 3 usually when we were fairly deep in the mire.
I have been a boof fan but he needs runs in the last two games to go to kiwi land simple as that.
What katich needs to do when he gets back in is turn those gritty 80’s into big hundreds as that’s what most people remember and the blokes who convert don’t get dropped.
p.s. if kat does come back i would move punter to 4(his footwork isn't at his bets right now so a bit lower down might help) and play katich at 3 where he looks much better than at 6.
OldSchool
19 Dec 2004, 17:38
To just look at the basic average for katich in India is unfair, he played some vital innings at 3 usually when we were fairly deep in the mire.
Agreed, he was far better value to the team than his average indicated.
bunsen burner
19 Dec 2004, 20:11
p.s. if kat does come back i would move punter to 4(his footwork isn't at his bets right now so a bit lower down might help) If you think that then you know little about cricket.
Karbassiyoon
19 Dec 2004, 21:56
i'm not a fan of kim hughes
anybody who rubbishes almost every aspect of late 90's technology through to today's technology is just advertising what an idiot they are
bunsen burner
19 Dec 2004, 22:00
i'm not a fan of kim hughes
anybody who rubbishes almost every aspect of late 90's technology through to today's technology is just advertising what an idiot they areWhich happens to be very many people including many greats of the game.
Karbassiyoon
19 Dec 2004, 22:16
i'm not bringing thier cricketing ability into question
however, i am saying that if they're unwilling to adapt to the world as it is, they belong in the past
bunsen burner
19 Dec 2004, 22:38
i'm not bringing thier cricketing ability into question
No, but you're calling many greats of the game idiots. Good one Ted.
Portmagpies
20 Dec 2004, 07:36
To just look at the basic average for katich in India is unfair, he played some vital innings at 3 usually when we were fairly deep in the mire.
Sure. But ultimately this is a factor. If Boof had averaged more than 26 in the sub-continent it wouldn't be an issue. He did, so it is.
I have been a boof fan but he needs runs in the last two games to go to kiwi land simple as that.
What katich needs to do when he gets back in is turn those gritty 80’s into big hundreds as that’s what most people remember and the blokes who convert don’t get dropped.
No argument on either count.
p.s. if kat does come back i would move punter to 4(his footwork isn't at his bets right now so a bit lower down might help) and play katich at 3 where he looks much better than at 6.
Can't agree with this one though. Katich will have to bide his time at number 6 like everyone else.
gadj1976
20 Dec 2004, 07:42
I've lost a lot of respect for him after yesterday saying that he was the expert, that's why his comments about Brett Lee should be taken as gospel.
He then said that he didnt' understand the rule whereby Inzy was allowed to bat at the fall of the fourth wicket.
if he was the expert, why didn't he refer to the rules (as experts know) and say yes or no, rather than diddle around and ask for a clarification on exactly what the rule stated.
goal_umpire
20 Dec 2004, 09:33
First he questions Rick Ponting's captaincy, now he's leading the call (again) for Boof's sacking.
Must be putting his hand up to replace 'dial-a-quote' Harvey.
Does anyone actually listen to this goon?
Yes I will listen to Kim Hughes even if he's opinion is different to mine and yours. He's played the game and you and I haven't.
Magpiespower
20 Dec 2004, 19:06
Yes I will listen to Kim Hughes even if he's opinion is different to mine and yours. He's played the game and you and I haven't.
By that rationale you can't comment on anything unless you are an 'expert' as Mr. Hughes pointed out to all and sundry.
Cricket, footy, politics, music, film, , books, hedgehog breeding, nothing.
captain boyd
20 Dec 2004, 19:56
Ok,he is noy the most astute of observers,and he is from left field sometimes,but isn't it great to hear someone different instead of the same voices time after time!!!
mulhollanddrive
20 Dec 2004, 22:41
I hated his commentary on the ABC this test, I think its his tone more than anything and he doesnt really explain his opinions, he just thinks theyre right. Hopefully O'Keefe will be back for the next couple of tests.
Crooked Rain
21 Dec 2004, 00:56
Same here.
I much prefer Kimberly to Terry Alderman who reminds me of the computer from "hitchhikers guide to the galaxy".
Me too. Kim Hughes is a great listen. Alderman was a better batsman than he is commentator.
Me too. Kim Hughes is a great listen. Alderman was a better batsman than he is commentator.
Alderman really makes me laugh when he is talking about how someone should bat, with a batting nickname of ferret I struggle to take him seriously.
Hughes definitely doesn't take himself too seriously, maybe alot of people have only listened to him for a short period. He regularly laughs about his "stuff ups" during his career. He is a breath of fresh air in "jobs for the boys" commentary teams.