View Full Version : RE-name the AFLST Premier League...
I think it's time both leagues down here broke away each other for good, forming their own identity, and their own name. I don't like the use of Premier or Regional League for football in the South. Here's my idea,
AFL Southern Tas. Premier League to be renamed the TANFL, if the cricket in the south can be called TCA, why can't the league have the TASMANIAN in it?
Next, the Regional league, can drop the Regional League and be known as AFL Southern Tasmania, or STFL if they prefer.
It's time to heal the wounds of Southern Tasmanian football, and help get it back on the right track. If not, the leagues will surely die, and we will be left with nothing but the Devils...who I will never pledge my support to.
My only team in Tasmania, unless it's state of origin, will always be Glenorchy, the Devils aren't MY team...and NEVER will be.
The Scarecrow
31 Dec 2004, 12:30
It's a shame it'll never happen, even rename it to the TFL would be much better then AFLST.
Kingpin
31 Dec 2004, 15:04
If they don't start to look after local football and bring back the TFL, you can forget about football altogether within the next 15-20 years.
All the clubs will be either broke or won't be able to run because of a lack of people involved - Sorell & Kempton are two clubs that have had problems with the latter in recent years.
TFL or bust.
It's time AFL Tasmania and the rest of the morons inbolved got off their asses and started doing something.
Wild Pegasus
2 Jan 2005, 18:21
I doubt they even care, look at all the money they are getting for doing jack? They don't care, they won't do nothing but sit on their asses getting the money from the AFL..
They'll learn, once the league's down here fold, and the Devils fold, they will be out a job, they will have no more AFL games in the state, and hav ruined Tasmanian football.
They won't get their big fat pay checks, they won't get to feel important, that will be known widely as the f*ckwits that ruined Tasmanian football.
TFL Division 1
TFL Division 2
Logical.
We really want to break the leagues up, as they were before the callapse of the TFL.
As the Regional was only a bush league before the TFL clubs joined at the end of 2000, it made it the only league in the South, now we have the 2 leagues split again, I would think that a renaming of the leagues would be better then Premier and Regional being the only thing seperating the leagues.
TFL Division 1
TFL Division 2
Logical.
That is a logical thought Pazza :)
Trouble is, we're dealing with former Huon & Southern Amatuer Football League clubs.
The mere mention of the word TFL sends them scurrying off into a big tizz about having to train three nights a week, needing more money, "the country people won't like it" etc etc etc :D
They want absolutely nothing to do with the former TFL clubs or the name TFL - and that is the problem.
Public perception of the SFL (or even the rather curiously rebadged name of AFLST) is of amatuerism, laziness & shodiness.
The public perception of the TFL before it sank in 2000, was that it had became a league of politics rather than football - most club officials were in the paper more than the players, and the public were getting tired of it, and drifted away. The league clubs were all broke, and a lot of very puzzling decisions were made.
Another problem I believe, is that the name "TFL" cannot be used as the TFL when it went bankrupt and folded, owed a lot of money to a lot of people.
And I think was going to be sued for a truckload of money by the clubs, and other individuals before they wound up the TFL overnight, to avoid having to pay these debts.
I still believe that they should pick the best six clubs and reform the TANFL (because when the TANFL Winfield League ceased existence at the end of 1985 season, it was still ok financially and had a better name in the public's eyes rather than the TFL).
The other 10 clubs, that are dead set against former TANFL clubs and dead set against "City football" should be cut adrift, and continue playing in the SFL (which was originally intended to be a country/amatuer league in the first place).
That way, you would have the country people to have thier bush league that they want, and the strong level city football for people who want to have something to watch rather than the Devils and an increasingly "plastic" AFL.
Trouble is, at the moment we have an uncompetitive, poor standard amatuer league which nobody is interested in. We have a fake state team which has no public interest outside Hobart, and the AFL on the TV.
They really need to take a serious listen to what the supporters want, or they will lose them altogether - and I'm one who has become so disillusioned, I've stopped going after following it all my life.
TANFL
Hobart, North Hobart, Clarence, Glenorchy, New Norfolk, Lauderdale or Kingborough.
SFL
Cygnet, Channel, Kermandie, Huonville Lions, Sorell, Lindisfarne, Brighton, Dodges Ferry, Claremont (If it survives), Kingborough or Lauderdale.
Southern Old Scholars Football Association
OHA, DOSA, University, Friends', St Virgil's, Richmond.
NTFA
North Launceston, South Launceston, Launceston, Longford, Scottsdale, George Town, Deloraine.
NWFU
Burnie Dockers, Devonport, East Devonport, Wynyard, Latrobe, Smithton, Ulverstone.
That'd be fairly similar to how it should look. A few clubs have merged over the years which has created uneven numbers as well.
But with the Northern Leagues, they seem happy with what they currently have.
If only AFL Tasmania would stop trying to 'fix' a problem that isn't there.
I think football across the entire state needs to be revamped. The SFL was split into two leagues because of the rift between the top teams and the bottom teams. The same problem exists in the NTFL. A 200-to-10 scoreline is a common sight in the paper.
I agree that we need to go back to the more traditional leagues, but I also believe we should try and not work towards isolationism.
Whatever happens, the top-tier leagues I think need to look at co-operation and the introduction of a psuedo-statewide league. By this, I believe in something like inter-league matches that count towards the season with a state premiership being contested for at the end. I'm not suggesting the money-sucking road-trip system of the TFL/SWL, but more akin to playing four games a year against out-of-league teams (2 home, 2 away). This would mean at most, a team would have two trips out of their region from an 18-game season.
The biggest focus of the leagues and supporters would obviously be on their local regions, but a rivalry can be developed across the state because the teams have had to play other teams from other leagues around the state.
The state premiership could be played off by the three league premiers (if three leagues came about) and the best runner-up (based on in-league, out-of-league road and out-of-league home game records).
These are my thoughts. Unfortunately, I realise they are VERY radical and step outside the comfortable norms the leagues think they are sitting in.
That's a very good idea, maybe they could do like Premier League Premiers Vs Regional League Premiers, winner plays the team that wins up North in a 2 game series (3 if required)
Wild Pegasus
4 Jan 2005, 20:27
It would have to be atleast best of 3, but where would you hold the 3rd? And the first?
David Votoupal
5 Jan 2005, 12:53
TANFL
Hobart, North Hobart, Clarence, Glenorchy, New Norfolk, Lauderdale or Kingborough.
SFL
Cygnet, Channel, Kermandie, Huonville Lions, Sorell, Lindisfarne, Brighton, Dodges Ferry, Claremont (If it survives), Kingborough or Lauderdale.
Exactly what I was thinking- the SFL Premier would be rebranded "TFL", while the SFL regional would be rebranded "SFL". I'd also allow Hobart to return to its traditional Tigers jumper.
Exactly what I was thinking- the SFL Premier would be rebranded "TFL", while the SFL regional would be rebranded "SFL". I'd also allow Hobart to return to its traditional Tigers jumper.
I agree, and even if Hobart was allowed to go back to thier old colours they'd probably find some excuse not to do it, given some of the traitors that's involved up there now.
I don't even think they want to fix the leagues problems.