View Full Version : Who will get a game in 2005?
Not sure if this has been done but which players picked up in 2004 draft will get a senior game in 2005 at your club?
And which players from previous drafts will get a regular senior game this year?
For the Bulldogs out of the 2004 Draftees Ryan Griffen should play the majority of the season. Jesse Wells may sneak a few games in as he seems physcaly ready. The rest are long term players.
Out of Last years crop, Farren Ray and Adam Cooney are expected to play 40 games between them. And we are hoping that Tim Walsh (#4 Pick in the 2003 Draft) will make a debut.
For Collingwood Iacobucci may even play half the season and is the most likely to feature in the seniours than the other draftees.
T.Davidson should remain injury free and play the majority and B.Shaw should also play many games. C.Cloke to gain a regular spot.
Nathan Ablett is a fair chance to play senior footy this year.
Matthew Egan will definitely get a game. We got him at pick 62, which is an absolute steal as he won VFL full back of the year.
TheGeneral
2 Jan 2005, 14:25
Jordan Russell will get some early games but then be dropped like all draftees in their first year.
DeLedio will probably play most games and truly be something special unlike other no 1 picks who were drafted in a poor year.
I expect to see the twin towers get plenty of games...
theorangeapple
2 Jan 2005, 23:30
i dont expect much of an impact from our draftees as they were entirely midfielders (ex smith) and we already have guys on sidelines deserving a spot in our 22. morton might get 5 games. rosa and lecras are too light and wont be ready for seniors IMO.
i expect smith to get at least 10 games.
theorangeapple
2 Jan 2005, 23:31
I expect to see the twin towers get plenty of games...
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realised inference.
leonmagic
3 Jan 2005, 02:51
The booch.
wellsythegr8
3 Jan 2005, 12:08
I expect Jarred Moore from Sydney to play most of the year. He has a ready-made body for AFL and will do very well up in Sydney.
I wouldn't expect Deledio to play many more than 6-7 games for us this year, as he is still finishing Year 12 he will be handled similar to Jackson was last year.
Tambling will probably play a few more, he could potentially play the whole season, but I hope he doesn't get rushed.
Polo & Pattison may get a couple of games too. Meyer, McGuane & Limbach won't play, too small.
Expect Daniel Jackson to come on in a pretty big way in 2005. In the poll on AFL.com only 5% considered him to be the player drafted 50+ in 2003 to have the biggest impact, but he only completed half of the pre-season & training because of his school commitments. This year he's got a full pre-season and 100% focused on AFL and he's already shown he can play at senior level.
Andrew Raines will be the other one to cement a spot in the senior side.
CyberKev
3 Jan 2005, 15:35
I expect to see the twin towers get plenty of games...
Haha... Nice sledge, I'll pay it.
The Twin Towers will probably only get a 2005 start due to injuries to more experienced Hawk talls, as is the usual.
At any rate, it wouldn't worry me if they don't play for Hawthorn in 2005, and the only draftee I expect to see in the Hawks jumper this year is Jordan Lewis.
...after the Hawks are 4/14 coming into the end of the year, get ready for the next breed of youngsters to play the remaining 4 games to ensure we get a priority pick! Must continue in the "St Kilda" mould of re-building.
:cool:
ablett factor
4 Jan 2005, 14:14
would be suprised if any our picks didnt get a game this year. prismall has size and was taken as a direct replacement for moloney, ablett has plenty of size and is training well and most expect him to play possibly even round 1 and egan is a mature age recruit and will be used most of the year if he is up to it i would say.
would be suprised if any our picks didnt get a game this year. prismall has size and was taken as a direct replacement for moloney, ablett has plenty of size and is training well and most expect him to play possibly even round 1 and egan is a mature age recruit and will be used most of the year if he is up to it i would say.
and who are all these guys replacing (bearing in mind the likes of tenace, mackie, callan and ottens all didn't play in the prelim whom would be all ahead of the 3 players you mentioned)??
Johnson#26
4 Jan 2005, 14:59
Collingwood:
First years: Iacobucci will play a lot. Don't expect to see the others too soon.
More then one year: B.Shaw, H.Shaw and Brent Hall will all jump out of the box.
Collingwood: More then one year: B.Shaw, H.Shaw will jump out of the box.
hahahahaha
2 absolute hacks who will do nothing, just like heath's older brother.
Lockyer24
4 Jan 2005, 18:22
Brayden Shaw will be a better player than those skinny over hyped spastics Fisher Waite and Norman combined.
Brayden Shaw will be a better player than those skinny over hyped spastics Fisher Waite and Norman combined.
Now that is honestly one of the most ridiculous statements I've seen on here of late.
Give credit where credit's due. Fisher, Waite and Norman have all been extremely promising already and indicated they will be career footballers. Absolutely ridiculous to compare them to the Shaws who have never played a senior game between them yet.
And I've seen both those boys play and trust me, there is nothing to get excited about.
Anyway, keep fooling yourself by pumping them up on bigfooty but you and I will both be watching over the next few years and we'll both see exactly what happens.
Lockyer24
5 Jan 2005, 08:32
Cheers I will, you too buddy.
Norman, has the tools to be good but nothing between the ears. Waite and Fisher are just ordinary players.
Funkalicous
5 Jan 2005, 10:02
Cheers I will, you too buddy.
Norman, has the tools to be good but nothing between the ears. Waite and Fisher are just ordinary players.
You dipstick! Those three players have already had rising star nominations. I think they've all gathered 20+ possies in a game also. Fisher's taken 10 marks in a game and 9 and 8 in others. All these players have done lots more then some Shaw. He better be impressive in his first year or you'll look even more like an idiot.
ThatThis
5 Jan 2005, 11:18
Rising Star does not necessarily equal future champion!
Fisher has knee troubles, and Norman has head troubles.
Of those 3 the only one who shows TRUE promise of being a 250 game player is Waite. But he will never be a KPP, more like a Tarrant who runs around the forward line.
The truth is Carlton will continue to struggle untill they can develop more QUALITY young players. You may have some YOUNG players, but ur older senior listed group is not outstanding by any means.
If you asked any coach in the league they would prefer Collingwoods list over Carlton's. Period.
thegezman
5 Jan 2005, 11:46
If you asked any coach in the league they would prefer Collingwoods list over Carlton's. Period.
really? how about Denis Pagan?
the pies are in desperate trouble, and will need rocca, tarrant and buckley to have injury free seasons.
if bucks and burns go down then your in a lot of trouble.
maybe you should start a poll on the issue?
ThatThis
5 Jan 2005, 11:49
maybe you should start a poll on the issue?
Done.
ablett factor
5 Jan 2005, 16:22
and who are all these guys replacing (bearing in mind the likes of tenace, mackie, callan and ottens all didn't play in the prelim whom would be all ahead of the 3 players you mentioned)??
i am not saying they will all play a full year but i think they will all at least play a handful of games. Prismall will replace moloney but probably might not play more than 5-10 games, egan is ready made and will be used in the case of injuries or when playing a team with a taller forward line and ablett is the one with all the mystery surrounding him and may fill our hole in attack and provide a target in the best case scenario. at worst they will all play 1 game, therefore reaching the requirements of this topic.
Rogue Bomber
5 Jan 2005, 17:12
For Essendon expect Paul Thomas and Henry Slattery to get 2-3 games each. Monfries may get a couple. Lee is the one most likely to miss out.
In the event of injuries they may get more games.. but expect an average of 2 games each.
blue boy
5 Jan 2005, 17:20
luke blackwell will get a couple of games
Funkalicous
5 Jan 2005, 17:32
luke blackwell will get a couple of games
No he won't! Have you seen him? :eek: Russel will get some games. Bryan should get an opportunity. And Betts should if he trains well.
theorangeapple
5 Jan 2005, 17:50
luke blackwell will get a couple of games
i have seen luke play first hand and he is VERY skinny and small. i dont think it wouldnt be fair on the kid to play him against the mature bodies of AFL midfielders. he'd get pushed around much too easily.
i have seen luke play first hand and he is VERY skinny and small. i dont think it wouldnt be fair on the kid to play him against the mature bodies of AFL midfielders. he'd get pushed around much too easily.
is he any good?
Funkalicous
9 Jan 2005, 19:20
i have seen luke play first hand and he is VERY skinny and small. i dont think it wouldnt be fair on the kid to play him against the mature bodies of AFL midfielders. he'd get pushed around much too easily.
Pagan reckons he could play round 1! :eek:
That would be funny to watch...
smasher
10 Jan 2005, 05:32
Apparantly McGough is starring in practice matches..getting heaps of the pill but once again the odd kick off the side of the boot is a problem.
I'd be very surprised if Gwilt got a game as he isn't showing a great deal yet?
Ackland should be playing this year.
Longy413
10 Jan 2005, 07:56
You dipstick! Those three players have already had rising star nominations.
Brodie Atkinson
Darren Kowal
Ilija Grgic
Brad Nicholson
Kent Butcher
Matthew Kluzek
Ryan O'Connor
Nick Carter
Adam Houlihan
Carl Steinfort
Robert Powell
Evan Hewitt
Darren Hulme
Justin Plapp
Andrew Williams
I could go on..........
Gwilt will get a game for the saints this year
Demonheart
10 Jan 2005, 11:51
...
Darren Kowal...
I could go on..........
Kowal was ok
Longy413
10 Jan 2005, 12:17
Kowal was ok
Exactly.
WestCat
10 Jan 2005, 15:41
I think all 3 of our draftees will get a gaem this year. All are already big enough to play, and will get 5-10 games each.
shagger
10 Jan 2005, 19:26
Done.
Hows your poll results going Champ?
The truth is Carlton will continue to struggle untill they can develop more QUALITY young players.
Who are Collingwoods QUALITY YOUNG MIDFIELDERS TO REPLACE BUCKS AND BURNS? :)
You havent seen Walker? Who is the replacement for Bucks? We have one for Kouta!
ThatThis
11 Jan 2005, 10:02
Hows your poll results going Champ?
Exactly as i expected.
Considering i asked NON Collingwood and Carlton supporters to vote, the Carlton morons have come out in force of there pathetic blues. Im not saying that the Pies supporters didnt vote, but in the break down of the poll, 2:1 carlton supporters have voted in comparison to collingwood. So the results are a lot closer than they look.
Magpie Mark
11 Jan 2005, 11:15
Booch!
cschreuder61
11 Jan 2005, 14:36
griffen will play round 1 and potentially all 22 games. Rate him very highly. deledio and tambling will take more time.. tambling will play in the later half, deledio is doin grade 12 so wont be rushed too much I doubt. Roughead and Franklin definately wont play early in the season. Franklin might get a game earlier than roughie however. Tom Williams wont play for 2 years. Jordan Lewis is a chance to play round 1 from reports.
shagger
11 Jan 2005, 15:49
Carlton morons....pathetic blues?
Dont take to failure too well champ, do you?
I dont know why, experience should have prepared you. ;)
Funkalicous
11 Jan 2005, 17:34
Carlton morons....pathetic blues?
Dont take to failure too well champ, do you?
I dont know why, experience should have prepared you. ;)
One Premiership in half a century.. ;)
deledio is doin grade 12 so wont be rushed too much I doubt.
I thought this initially too, that he'd be handled similar to Daniel Jackson, but he's actually doing year 12 over 2 years at Caulfield Grammar, so that would suggest that he's got the opportunity to put 100% into his football.
For the Eagles, our debutants will probably be Mitch Morton and Daniel McConnell who will both probably get a game on the half forward flank. McConnell may be able to cement a spot in the side... Morton needs a bit of muscle before he can cement a spot in the side.
Another player who could get a few more games is Zach Beech, he played one game last year but might get a few more chances as centre half back if he continues the form he showed in the latter half of the season playing that position in the WAFL.
Brad Smith may be given a game up forward. He kicked 160 goals over 2 years in the WAFL and could go to full forward while McDougall goes to Centre Half Forward. I doubt any of these guys will get a game round 1 but in the middle of the season they may work there way into the team...
Cool hand
16 Jan 2005, 18:06
The Booch
Bentleigh
16 Jan 2005, 18:31
Dean Polo - Richmond. :)
Peter Sidorkiewicz
17 Jan 2005, 12:50
Nathan Ablett is a fair chance to play senior footy this year.
Matthew Egan will definitely get a game. We got him at pick 62, which is an absolute steal as he won VFL full back of the year.
I'll be stagged if Nathan Ablett plays AFL footy this year. It's a big jump from local league to the big time and basically I'm unsure whether he can cut it in the VFL, let alone AFL.
WestCat
18 Jan 2005, 20:19
I'll be stagged if Nathan Ablett plays AFL footy this year. It's a big jump from local league to the big time and basically I'm unsure whether he can cut it in the VFL, let alone AFL.
I know it's a big step up, but he's big enough, physically, to play and from all accounts has the skills. If he can get used to the pace of the game then he should have no problems. I'm not expecting him to play Rd.1, but he should play a couple of games.
Stiffy_18
18 Jan 2005, 22:25
Nathan Van Berlo and possibly John Meesen
I know it's a big step up, but he's big enough, physically, to play and from all accounts has the skills. If he can get used to the pace of the game then he should have no problems. I'm not expecting him to play Rd.1, but he should play a couple of games.
I struggle to reconcile the expectation of supporters who think their clubs will challenge for the premiership with their expectation that new recruits will play more than the odd game of footy. Those clubs who are most likely to challenge should have a list of 30 or so players with a few years under their belt who will form the core of the team. Only in the case of long injuries lists are newbies likely to get a game.
It's not just about whether recruits could play at senior level. It's whether they are good enough to displace existing senior players.
Of course the equation is different for clubs in a "rebuilding phase", and it is likely that players like Deledio and Tambling will get chances.
Note that the of the top five players in last years RS (who finished significantly clear of the rest of the field), only Davey and Cooney were in their first year on a list. Davey was already a fairly mature age recruit (ie not a 17 yo and with a full year of senior VFL already under his belt) while Cooney was playing in one of the weaker teams in the comp and thus got more opportunities than most of his fellow first year players, even those rated at a similar level to him in the draft, such as Tenace, McLean, Clarke.
Rivers and Bevan were in their second year on a list. Hadley in his fourth!!
thecoastingcoaster
19 Jan 2005, 00:27
Mitch Morton should play around 10, as should Daniel Mconell.
If McDougall slips up Smith will get a gig.
Bentleigh
19 Jan 2005, 11:07
Hadley in his fourth!!
Next season is Hadleys 5th :eek:
42 players at Richmond will get a game. Plus a few rookies.
Porthos
19 Jan 2005, 13:15
Thomson, Eckermann & Ware
shagger
19 Jan 2005, 13:50
Edddieee "Booth" Betts.
dees_best
19 Jan 2005, 15:25
Bate,Dunn and Newton will be lucky to get a game or two.
Expect to see Daniel Bell, Colin Sylvia and Brock McLean cement their spots in our best 22.
OldSchool
19 Jan 2005, 20:18
Mitch Morton should play around 10, as should Daniel Mconell.
If McDougall slips up Smith will get a gig.
Morton is a real talent but I thought 10 games might be a big ask for him given your midfield and flankers depth.
Bomaz_Magic
19 Jan 2005, 21:54
Monfries and thomas are real chances for us.
Snickers
20 Jan 2005, 23:32
Monfries and thomas are real chances for us.
Definitly
WestCat
21 Jan 2005, 15:38
I struggle to reconcile the expectation of supporters who think their clubs will challenge for the premiership with their expectation that new recruits will play more than the odd game of footy. Those clubs who are most likely to challenge should have a list of 30 or so players with a few years under their belt who will form the core of the team. Only in the case of long injuries lists are newbies likely to get a game.
It's not just about whether recruits could play at senior level. It's whether they are good enough to displace existing senior players.
Of course the equation is different for clubs in a "rebuilding phase", and it is likely that players like Deledio and Tambling will get chances.
Note that the of the top five players in last years RS (who finished significantly clear of the rest of the field), only Davey and Cooney were in their first year on a list. Davey was already a fairly mature age recruit (ie not a 17 yo and with a full year of senior VFL already under his belt) while Cooney was playing in one of the weaker teams in the comp and thus got more opportunities than most of his fellow first year players, even those rated at a similar level to him in the draft, such as Tenace, McLean, Clarke.
Rivers and Bevan were in their second year on a list. Hadley in his fourth!!
You make a very good point there. I'm not sure that Prismall will get a game due to our depth in the midfield. He might get a game if we are lacking in pace (apparently he's pretty quick). Egan may come into the side if Mooney doesn't play down back as a third tall. Ablett may get a game in a pocket or a flank, but due to a depth there, I think he may only get a couple of games to rest a player such as Mackie. I'm not expecting Ablett to play CHF or FF because I don't he's big enough yet to play that role, but from all accounts, he may be able to play a flank or in a pocket and his size and mobility may give us an advantage.