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The Fonz
21 Feb 2005, 19:32
No one seems to have commented on the umpiring from the recent game in which NZ seems to have received three bad decisions - Hayden twice given not out and Fleming given out.
If it keeps going like this that Australia gets all the dodgy decision in their favour, the suspicion is going to build up.
A referee in German soccer just admitted rolling over, so its not beyond the realm of possiblity that a cricket umpire could do it too.
I have no idea what is going on. In the beginning the dodgy decisions went both ways but in the last few years it has been all Australia.
red+black
21 Feb 2005, 20:00
I'm sure a lot of people will say that Australia's apparent luck is a misconception, but I believe it is real, and while unintentional, it is probably subconscious.
Hayden needs all the luck he can get at the moment, so at least the umpires will ease him back into form before the all important Ashes.
Cooldude
21 Feb 2005, 20:22
Billy Bowden's the one that continually says there ain't no bloody biase and he ain't "in awe" of the Aussies, yet he's the one that constantly screws over whoever Aus's playing against, while giving them generous decisions.
Billy Bowden's the one that continually says there ain't no bloody biase and he ain't "in awe" of the Aussies, yet he's the one that constantly screws over whoever Aus's playing against, while giving them generous decisions.
Best umpire in the world according to some people on this board.
The Fleming decision was OK there was every chance of it hitting, that lee was bowling around the wicket should not come into it if the ball was going to hit, to many pre conceived idea's in cricket already, there is no such thing as "it can't be hitting if he's around the wicket" harder to get a decision...? yes! impossible..? No!
Martin Crowes hissy fit was disgraceful.
Kiwi's, Richradson in particular seem to conveniently forget that they won the first ODI in aus this year through poor decisions, both Ponting and Martyn being given out LBW to balls they HIT!,
The sooking coming out of NZ at present has all the qaulity's of a sore loser, then richardson basicaly defends the crowd behavior by saying it's happened here, nice logic phukstick!!!! apparently two wrongs do make a right.
Aus create about twice as many chances as their opposition on a regular basis, it's only natural that they will get a few more 50/50's it give the umps double the chance to get it wrong.
scottywiper
23 Feb 2005, 18:51
If Brent, aka Billy, spent more time concentrating on his decision making and less time on theatrics, he might be the "brilliant" umpire he claims to be.
He made three shockers, all at the expense of the Kiwis, during the Australian innings in the first ODI.
Hayden clearly caught behind, then as plumb lbw as you would ever see, and then gave Symonds the benefit of very little doubt.
Both lbws were from Vettori, who must wonder why only Shane Warne gets lbw appeals paid.
Before you ask, I am an Aussie, but I want to see a fair contest.
As for Rudi Koertzen, his slow finger raise annoys the hell out of me, just give them out or not out, and his decision making is appalling.
I reckon he operates on a numbers theory. If he makes enough decisions, he is bound to get some right. When he does, it is sheer coincidence.