Best Young Ruckman in the Comp

[bogan4life]

who is the best young ruckman in the comp
i belive the 3 standouts are laycock Minson and Seaby

[m.diddy]

Kosi and minson

[F/D]

Cox

[weagles_fan]

Minson and Seaby.Laycock is too lanky,he can't do much when the balls on the ground.

Kositchzke is crap.

[SaintsSupporter]

Laycock and Will Minson. Can't decide.

[Jaymin]

Jaycock for mine.

[weagles_fan]

CoxDoes Cox qualify as young?He's 23 or 24 I believe

[bogan4life]

Cox

cox is one of the best ruckman in the comp but isnt he about 25

[weagles_fan]

cox is one of the best ruckman in the comp but isnt he about 25
Cox is 23 going on 24 this year.

[NorthBhoy]

Hale > Seaby.

Cox is the best ruckman in the comp, but isn't he 25 or so?

[weagles_fan]

Hale > Seaby.

Cox is the best ruckman in the comp, but isn't he 25 or so?23

[Mead]

cox is one of the best ruckman in the comp but isnt he about 25

Nah, 23 actually

-oops, since thats already been posted, twice, I'll add that with all young ruckman, more than anything else it seems that they develop way quicker when the challenge is thrown to them.

Cox was a competent understudy when Gardiner was a truly outstanding ruckman- he took around 8-10 weeks as our #1 ruckman and then he started to hit his straps big time.

Obviously Will Minson is way younger than Cox was when Gardiner got injured, but I think that being thrown in the deep end is generally very good for them- if u can't look at the bench and know there's a replacement waiting to bail you out if it gets too tough, it makes you go a lot harder at the contests.

[Longy413]

Laycock is too lanky,he can't do much when the balls on the ground.

Lanky? The bloke is over 100kg's. Who have you been watching?

[weagles_fan]

Lanky? The bloke is over 100kg's. Who have you been watching?Doesn't look like it.Maybe because he wears a long sleeve jersey but he seems a bit slow...

[Cassius_Clay]

Laycock? Dud Board.

[bogan4life]

Lanky? The bloke is over 100kg's. Who have you been watching?

compared to minson his very lanky

[ManWithNoName]

I like the look of Chook. Playing alright at a young age, which is rare for big guys, and can go foward and can be damaging.

[SaintsSupporter]

Laycock? Dud Board.We can also discuss 25 current Collingwood players there too.

[Longy413]

Laycock? Dud Board.

It's now named the Cameron Cloke Board.

[bogan4life]

It's now named the Cameron Cloke Board.
i ment to leave C Cloke out because i said best young ruckman not "PLAYERS WHO GET A GAME BECAUSE OF HIS LAST NAME"

[ManWithNoName]

Laycock? Dud Board.
Well hows it feel for some young dud to have 18 disposals, 7 marks and 2 goals against you?

[roostersgal4eva]

What about Jamie Charman?????

[bogan4life]

Minsons game against the Crows was better then Jaycocks against the pies

jaycock only got nab rising star because Will Minson isnt able to win the award due to suspension

[weagles_fan]

What about Jamie Charman?????He's almost 23.If he is included so is Cox and then Cox would win hands down.

[bringbackbucky]

Matthew Primus :o

[bogan4life]

What about Jamie Charman?????

never gets on the park

[Ljp86]

Seaby for mine, he's going great, except for his hammy.

[Cassius_Clay]

Well hows it feel for some young dud to have 18 disposals, 7 marks and 2 goals against you?
What a gun :rolleyes:

[bogan4life]

He's almost 23.If he is included so is Cox and then Cox would win hands down.

21 and under

[grimlock]

Lewis Roberts-Thomson. 4 hitouts last week!

[Longy413]

jaycock only got nab rising star because Will Minson isnt able to win the award due to suspension

That doesn't stop you from getting nominated.

Laycock against Collingwood took 7 marks and kicked two goals.
Minson only took 2 marks and has yet to kick a goal in his 8 games.

Minson is going to be more of a pure ruckman, whereas Laycock is going to spend a lot more time down forward.

17 hitouts against Brisbane last week was a good effort from Laycock.

[davo dog]

big will :cool:

[Mead]

Fwiw, I honestly believe Seaby has quite a bit more natural talent than Cox, which is saying quite a bit given where Cox is at the moment.

Seaby is
- extremely athletic
- naturally coordinated.
- a very good contested mark
- most importantly though, he has an uncanny knack for directing his taps-
just has very good sense of where his teammates are, when he wins knocks he always makes them count. Its the feat which distinguishes the likes of White and Gardiner when they were at their absolute best.

I think Seabs will probably eclipse Coxxy as our lead ruckman in a few years time. Bit of an embarassment of riches really.

[weagles_fan]

17 hitouts against Brisbane last week was a good effort from Laycock.Who were Brisbane's ruckman?

[bogan4life]

.
Minson is going to be more of a pure ruckman, whereas Laycock is going to spend a lot more time down forward.

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well i am asking for Best Ruckman not best Forward who can go into the ruck

[Longy413]

Who were Brisbane's ruckman?

Clarke Keating is pretty handy.

[Longy413]

well i am asking for Best Ruckman not best Forward who can go into the ruck

What I meant is, when Minson isn't rucking he will be on the bench.
The fact that Laycock can rest forward when he isn't rucking is a feather in his cap.
Laycock reads the play better and has better hands.

[roostersgal4eva]

never gets on the park
if he gets himself injury free?????

[Ljp86]

Fwiw, I honestly believe Seaby has quite a bit more natural talent than Cox, which is saying quite a bit given where Cox is at the moment.

Seaby is
- extremely athletic
- naturally coordinated.
- a very good contested mark
- most importantly though, he has an uncanny knack for directing his taps-
just has very good sense of where his teammates are, when he wins knocks he always makes them count. Its the feat which distinguishes the likes of White and Gardiner when they were at their absolute best.

I think Seabs will probably eclipse Coxxy as our lead ruckman in a few years time. Bit of an embarassment of riches really.

Only problem is, is that he is a poor kick and a terrible kick for goal.

[bogan4life]

Seaby is a super Talent and is going to be god around the ground
Minson is going to be the tough strong pure ruckman who brakes packs and has no fear
Laycock will be a good part time ruckman behind Hille
C Cloke will play C grade VAFL and not get a touch

[bogan4life]

if he gets himself injury free?????

How old is Charman

problem is that he looks like he will be in and out to much to be a top Ruckman

[weagles_fan]

Clarke Keating is pretty handy.The week before Seaby got more hitouts than any Brisbane player by playing backup ruckman.Seaby >>>> Laycock

[jackson_rules]

What I meant is, when Minson isn't rucking he will be on the bench.
The fact that Laycock can rest forward when he isn't rucking is a feather in his cap.
Laycock reads the play better and has better hands.
you know this how i didnt know you were good freind with eade and he told you exactly how he will use will minson

[Slick]

I think Hale is the best young ruckman going around at the moment. He was right up there with Everitt when the Hawks played the Roos and as many if not more of his taps found a team mate then Everitts in that game.
Will be a great ruckman in years to come.

Now, can we have McIntosh?

[Mead]

Only problem is, is that he is a poor kick and a terrible kick for goal.

16.8 from his career so far. I actually reckon Seaby is a far more reliable set shot than Cox.

He's not a great kick on the run, but he's hardly an orphan in that respect when it comes to young ruckmen. Anyone who watched Gardiner in his first few years would agree with that.

[Longy413]

you know this how i didnt know you were good freind with eade and he told you exactly how he will use will minson

From watching them play.
How long has Minson spent playing forward when Darcy has been rucking?

Minson may develop this side of his game, but right now Laycock has it and Minson doesn't.

[bogan4life]

What I meant is, when Minson isn't rucking he will be on the bench.
The fact that Laycock can rest forward when he isn't rucking is a feather in his cap.
Laycock reads the play better and has better hands.

No Minson started out as a full forward at werribee but ATM he goes to the bench because he needs a rest ( Seaby is the same)

No one bar essendon supporters say that Laycock is better then those 2

[bogan4life]

From watching them play.
How long has Minson spent playing forward when Darcy has been rucking?

Minson may develop this side of his game, but right now Laycock has it and Minson doesn't.

When Darcy was rucking he would be 50 50 on bench up forward

but now with out Darcy he will be in the ruck then into the forward pocket

[Coin_Toss]

who is the best young ruckman in the comp


Guy Richards.

[Longy413]

No Minson started out as a full forward at werribee but ATM he goes to the bench because he needs a rest ( Seaby is the same)

No one bar essendon supporters say that Laycock is better then those 2

Seaby is the better of the three, got no doubt about that.

However, Laycock has been playing better footy than Minson and has proved that he is more than just a ruckman. Both Seaby and Laycock have gone forward and proven they can be weapons. Laycock has proven that he reads the game extremely and undoubtably is the best mark of the three of them.
As well as the Bulldogs have been playing, it is evident that they need another tall forward. If Minson could make an impact down there they would play him down there. Not once has Minson looked dangerous around goals.

[Longy413]

When Darcy was rucking he would be 50 50 on bench up forward

For all this time he has spent forward I would have thought he would have at least had a scoring shot this season.

[bogan4life]

Seaby is the better of the three, got no doubt about that.

However, Laycock has been playing better footy than Minson and has proved that he is more than just a ruckman. Both Seaby and Laycock have gone forward and proven they can be weapons. Laycock has proven that he reads the game extremely and undoubtably is the best mark of the three of them.
As well as the Bulldogs have been playing, it is evident that they need another tall forward. If Minson could make an impact down there they would play him down there. Not once has Minson looked dangerous around goals.

also you have got to look at if they can actully tap the ball down to there own team which Laycock carnt

[Longy413]

also you have got to look at if they can actully tap the ball down to there own team which Laycock carnt

Keep changing your story don't you.

Laycock's ruck work has been good, created several scoring opportunities by getting effective hitouts to team-mates.

[Ljp86]

I think that Laycock is better than Minson at the moment. Seaby is definitely number 1.

[jonny f muleus]

Cox, he still could be considered as "young"

[bogan4life]

Keep changing your story don't you.

Laycock's ruck work has been good, created several scoring opportunities by getting effective hitouts to team-mates.


no laycocks tap work is poor

Both Minson and Seaby can hit the ball to there midfielders

maybe it isnt Laycocks fault its just because Essondon doesnt have a decent midfield

[Longy413]

no laycocks tap work is poor

Both Minson and Seaby can hit the ball to there midfielders

maybe it isnt Laycocks fault its just because Essondon doesnt have a decent midfield

You're right, we don't have a very good midfield.
That takes nothing away from Laycock's ruckwork.
Laycock has had to lead our ruck division and has performed very very well, after not having a preseason. He came straight into the seniors without any VFL form.
Laycock has a Rising Star nomination.
Minson does not.

[crowsarethebest]

I can't really decide.. they all are going to be very good.

[bogan4life]

You're right, we don't have a very good midfield.
That takes nothing away from Laycock's ruckwork.
Laycock has had to lead our ruck division and has performed very very well, after not having a preseason. He came straight into the seniors without any VFL form.
Laycock has a Rising Star nomination.
Minson does not.

minson has more votes then laycock does that say something.

Minson is unable to be nomatied because of suspension

Do u think Laycock will win the award

[Longy413]

minson has more votes then laycock does that say something.

Minson is unable to be nomatied because of suspension

Do u think Laycock will win the award

Minson has more votes in what than Laycock?
Since when can't suspended players get nominated?

No, Laycock won't win it. I have no idea who will, but Bradley will be ahead of Laycock as far as Essendon is concerned.

[bogan4life]

Minson has more votes in what than Laycock?
Since when can't suspended players get nominated?

No, Laycock won't win it. I have no idea who will, but Bradley will be ahead of Laycock as far as Essendon is concerned.

minson has more votes then laycock in the poll

it says in the record that a player that has been suspend can not me nominated
but it doesnt say about players suspened in previous years

[nicho_magic]

who is the best young ruckman in the comp
i belive the 3 standouts are Jaycock Minson and Seaby
if you mean laycock... its Laycock.

[utility]

I am quite happy with Hale. Not as developed as Cox but knows how to kick straight.

[bogan4life]

typing error

[bogan4life]

I am quite happy with Hale. Not as developed as Cox but knows how to kick straight.

Hale looks ok but hasnt blown a game appart yet

[Exeter]

Fwiw, I honestly believe Seaby has quite a bit more natural talent than Cox, which is saying quite a bit given where Cox is at the moment.

Seaby is
- extremely athletic
- naturally coordinated.
- a very good contested mark
- most importantly though, he has an uncanny knack for directing his taps-
just has very good sense of where his teammates are, when he wins knocks he always makes them count. Its the feat which distinguishes the likes of White and Gardiner when they were at their absolute best.

I think Seabs will probably eclipse Coxxy as our lead ruckman in a few years time. Bit of an embarassment of riches really.

Sshh.

[SirBloodyIdiot]

Seaby is the best of the lot so far, and then with Minson and Laycock it is a much of a muchness.

[NorthBhoy]

Laycock > Minson.

I think Will is a good player and possibly a better pure ruckman, but as footballers, Laycock has many more strings and is as natural as ANY 200cm footballer in the comp. Will be a gun.

Seaby? Dunno, I just don't see star factor. Athletically strong though.

Who knows? You just cannot predict the futures of young ruckman accurately IMO. King was good at 21 but is only ok now. Cox, for various reasons, was only passable at 21, but is now a stone cold gun and comfortably better than King.

[Ricketts]

Jaycock for mine.

Yeah, that Jaycock, he'll be a superstar.

[TheGeneral]

Give me John Meeson for the future.

[Thunderstruck]

In terms of pure ruckwork and tapping in the one on ones, Minson is excellent. Was the same at school, used agression very effectively, mind u gave away a lot of frees, but is learning more and more how to exactly use his body to maximum effect without giving away frees. he thrashed Hudson, was beaten by Biglands because of Rhett's jumping ability. Broke even with King on the weekend, who used to be one of the best ruckman in the comp 2 or so years ago. Very well built young fella, I expect him to really challenge Cox i a few years time for the best ruckman in the comp. Cox however is in a league of his own atm IMO, thrashes everyone in hitouts and gets around the ground like a rover. Machine.

Seaby is solid, has talent there but in a side with Cox and Gardiner (was the best ruckman in comp till he got injured and also until Cox came along). Strong one-grab mark and can kick goals when he goes forward. Big future here.

Laycock, prolly the least talented of the lot but still a good kid for sure. gets the ball around the ground, works hard and takes very good marks in defence as well as kicking the odd goal. Good value big man.

Minson got my vote however, in terms of ruckman he is already the strongest of the 3 and his tapping and knocking is first class.

[DEVO]

I think Hale is the best young ruckman going around at the moment. He was right up there with Everitt when the Hawks played the Roos and as many if not more of his taps found a team mate then Everitts in that game.
Will be a great ruckman in years to come.

Now, can we have McIntosh?

No. He will be our replacement for Sav Rocca.

[hahaha]

Ricky Mott? :p

[bogan4life]

Ricky Mott? :p
if he gets a vote then Street must 2

[Pie 4 Life]

Richards.

[bogan4life]

Richards.
was that da fake post you no like a Peter Street

[sante]

Minson isnt too bad, but I voted others because the players in the poll are not that great.

[dumesny1]

Guy Richards

[Kangas_Div]

David Hale :cool:

[BulldogMike]

Will Minson