Ruckman - what type would you prefer?

[SaintsSupporter]

What type of ruckman would you prefer as your #1 ruckman?

Ruckman #1: Has a 40% hitout to advantage record, 40 hitouts per game, but takes 1-2 marks per game, has 1-2 handballs per game, 1-2 kicks per game. Cannot play in any other position besides ruckman.

Ruckman #2: Has a 30% hitout to advantage record, 25-30 hitouts per game, but also takes 6-8 marks per game, 4-5 handballs per game and has 7-8 kicks per game. Can play up forward or down back.

[jezza]

Let it go, just let it go....

[SaintsSupporter]

I'm not naming names at all, I'm simply asking what the general BigFooty community would prefer between these two different types of ruckmen.

[Marns]

I'd rather neither - the Jeff White/Spida Everitt type. Someone who'll constantly rack up hitouts, but also dominate around the ground.

[Reveler]

I would like the tallest, heavist ruckman in the league who doesn't play if it rains, gets heaps of hitouts when he does, but has a hit out to advantage rate of about 7%. I would also like him not to be able to mark.

hangon, we've got one.

[The_Ruffneck]

option 2 is surely the best

[crowsarethebest]

Option 2 by far...

[SonOfReep]

I would like a ruckman who is able to be downloaded to your mobile phone for only $5.95 per minute.

[SaintsSupporter]

I would like a ruckman who is able to be downloaded to your mobile phone for only $5.95 per minute.Jamster Spider?

[The Dice Man]

Insecure St.Kilda Supporter Board.

[evo]

You're not getting a little obsessed are you Saintssupporter.

LMAO @ keeping a running total comparing 2 average ruckman as you're signature.

[SaintsSupporter]

You're not getting a little obsessed are you Saintssupporter.

LMAO @ keeping a running total comparing 2 average ruckman as you're signature.:)

Shows one is useless, and one is useful.

Hint: Knobel is useless.

[Norfolk Nadia]

Trent Knobel vs. Cain Ackland

29 - Round 1 - 81
56 - Round 2 - 65
39 - Round 3 - 55
66 - Round 4 - 67
58 - Round 5 - 52
28 - Round 6 - 53

1 - Total - 5

So the only time that Knobel has won is when Ackland was his opponent ?

Are you sure thats the point you are trying make ?

[m.diddy]

What type of ruckman would you prefer as your #1 ruckman?

Ruckman #1: Has a 40% hitout to advantage record, 40 hitouts per game, but takes 1-2 marks per game, has 1-2 handballs per game, 1-2 kicks per game. Cannot play in any other position besides ruckman.

Ruckman #2: Has a 30% hitout to advantage record, 25-30 hitouts per game, but also takes 6-8 marks per game, 4-5 handballs per game and has 7-8 kicks per game. Can play up forward or down back.
Knobel has never got 40 hitouts, ackland is beating him at the moment in hitouts anyway.

oops no names were mentioned then, just swap knobel with ruckman #1 and Ackland with Ruckman #2 ;)

[SaintsSupporter]

Trent Knobel vs. Cain Ackland

29 - Round 1 - 81
56 - Round 2 - 65
39 - Round 3 - 55
66 - Round 4 - 67
58 - Round 5 - 52
28 - Round 6 - 53

1 - Total - 5

So the only time that Knobel has won is when Ackland was his opponent ?

Are you sure thats the point you are trying make ?The difference is, Knobel rucked the whole night, whereas Ackland only rucked 1/2 the time (Koschitzke the other half).

[Pie 4 Life]

What type of ruckman would you prefer as your #1 ruckman?

Ruckman #1: Has a 40% hitout to advantage record, 40 hitouts per game, but takes 1-2 marks per game, has 1-2 handballs per game, 1-2 kicks per game. Cannot play in any other position besides ruckman.

Ruckman #2: Has a 30% hitout to advantage record, 25-30 hitouts per game, but also takes 6-8 marks per game, 4-5 handballs per game and has 7-8 kicks per game. Can play up forward or down back.
Another Knobel vs Ackland Poll again! :rolleyes:

[The Dice Man]

:)

Shows one is useless, and one is useful.

Hint: Knobel is useless.


It is sad that you are so insecure in your own opinions that you must seek the 'Mass Opinion' of the faceless souls who post on a meaningless messageboard to feel your weak opinion is justified.

[Effes]

Prefer a ruckmen who is 50/50 in terms of hitouts with his opponent, can take marks at times around the ground (preferablly from kick-ins), but more importantly, can drift forward to put pressure on the opposition defence.

Adelaide have one on developing atm

[m.diddy]

Trent Knobel vs. Cain Ackland

29 - Round 1 - 81
56 - Round 2 - 65
39 - Round 3 - 55
66 - Round 4 - 67
58 - Round 5 - 52
28 - Round 6 - 53

1 - Total - 5

So the only time that Knobel has won is when Ackland was his opponent ?

Are you sure thats the point you are trying make ?

Good coaching that night. Kosi was #1 ruckman agaisnt you guys to take advantage of Knobels inability to go around the ground

[scarecrow2k1]

Read the Paper today?

[m.diddy]

Prefer a ruckmen who is 50/50 in terms of hitouts with his opponent, can take marks at times around the ground (preferablly from kick-ins), but more importantly, can drift forward to put pressure on the opposition defence.

Adelaide have one on developing atm
You just described ackland in a nut shell

[SaintsSupporter]

It is sad that you are so insecure in your own opinions that you must seek the 'Mass Opinion' of the faceless souls who post on a meaningless messageboard to feel your weak opinion is justified.In that case, by your logic, you are a faceless soul and you should not post your opinion in this thrad.

Thankyou, come again (don't).

[Norfolk Nadia]

The difference is, Knobel rucked the whole night, whereas Ackland only rucked 1/2 the time (Koschitzke the other half).

Is that because he was beaten by Knobel ?

What game times did they ruck in the other games ?

What are the numbers you are using for comparison ?

[SaintsSupporter]

Is that because he was beaten by Knobel ?

What game times did they ruck in the other games ?

What are the numbers you are using for comparison ?Dream Team stat measurements.

[The Dice Man]

In that case, by your logic, you are a faceless soul and you should not post your opinion in this thrad.

Thankyou, come again (don't).


Thrad? What is a Thrad?

You are beggining to look like a small dweeby and pathetically sad man.

Is that you Stephen Milne?

[SaintsSupporter]

Thrad? What is a Thrad?

You are beggining to look like a small dweeby and pathetically sad man.

Is that you Stephen Milne?One spelling mistake is all that you can pick out as wrong? LOL. Come up with somethig new.

Also, referring to your post before, how is my opinion on Ackland being better than Knobel weak, if the vast majority of people agree with it?

[m.diddy]

One spelling mistake is all that you can pick out as wrong? LOL. Come up with somethig new.
Also, referring to your post before, how is my opinion on Ackland being better than Knobel weak, if the vast majority of people agree with it?
:confused: Sound familiar?

[TheGeneral]

John Nicholls.

[SaintsSupporter]

:confused: Sound familiar?I wasn't trying to insult you, though, just correct you.

[The Dice Man]

:confused: Sound familiar?


Fraisur Guhreg?

[m.diddy]

Fraisur Guhreg?
actually i spelt it Gherig, two letters in the wrong order, compared to "thrad" not even close.
Just defending myself, no offense saintsupporter

[SaintsSupporter]

Aye.

[Sealen]

The difference is, Knobel rucked the whole night, whereas Ackland only rucked 1/2 the time (Koschitzke the other half).

And you do realise that Knobel doesn't ruck the whole match as we have been playing Simmonds and Stafford also?

Still LOL @ your sole purpose in life comparing Cain Ackland and Trent Knobel.

[m.diddy]

And you do realise that Knobel doesn't ruck the whole match as we have been playing Simmonds and Stafford also?

Still LOL @ your sole purpose in life comparing Cain Ackland and Trent Knobel.
Knobel rucked about 80% of the game
Ackland about 40%

[bogan4life]

Still LOL @ your sole purpose in life comparing Cain Ackland and Trent Knobel.

both carnt play both will never be AA so who cares
Spider is getting 100 points a game and he is also a EX saints player why not compare Ackland and Spider

[m.diddy]

both carnt play both will never be AA so who cares
Spider is getting 100 points a game and he is also a EX saints player why not compare Ackland and Spider
Because spider wasn't a money hungry fool. He left for good reasons.

[The Dice Man]

Because spider wasn't a money hungry fool. He left for good reasons.


He wanted to sober up?

[SaintsSupporter]

And you do realise that Knobel doesn't ruck the whole match as we have been playing Simmonds and Stafford also?

Still LOL @ your sole purpose in life comparing Cain Ackland and Trent Knobel.What I meant to say was:Knobel rucked about 80% of the game
Ackland about 40%If you can't see that, then I pity you.

[macca_2111]

Spider everitt get 40 hitouts a game and still picks up heaps of the ball. Perfect ruckman

[Otiman]

I think it all boils down to whether you want to sacrifice a seat on the bench for ruckman #1 when he's not rucking. It also keeps him fresh and ready to go whenever needed.

In a strong side, you want everyone to have full usefulness, because any less than that is wasted space. In a building or weak side the 'extra' spot taken by the ruckman on the bench would normally go to someone who isnt too good anyway.

[ManWithNoName]

:)

Shows one is useless, and one is useful.

Hint: Knobel is useless.
Did you see the Hun today?

Most effective ruckman in the league.

[bakerman]

I'd rather neither - the Jeff White/Spida Everitt type. Someone who'll constantly rack up hitouts, but also dominate around the ground.


Agreed, they are the best 2 ruckmen in the comp so why would you not want them

[pazza]

Mine would be 1 part John Nicholls, 1 part Polly Farmer, 1 part Crackers Keenan, 1 part Simon Madden

(basically bulky, well skilled, angry and versatile both up forward and in the middle).

[sussy128]

ACLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND
that 1 is for all of you who said we couldnt win a premiership this year because we didnt get a ruckman in the draft