Werribee who can beat them [Archive]

Longy413

30th May 2005, 08:17

Bendigo won't be a factor. They'll have problems when it comes to the 12/10 rule in the finals.

What is the ruling on Rookie List players in the finals?
I was talking with someone the other day about it and we weren't quite sure. If Rookie list players are excluded from the AFL listed players then we will be fine.

Blumfield, Beasy, Carter, Doering, Rosa, Connaughton, Robins are all core Bendigo players. Bowen is coming back from injury and played in the 2nd's on the weekend, had a very good year last year. That gives us 8. If rookies qualify, Bain, Jolley and Wilson would give us 11. Pendlebury and Vigus in the reserves go pretty well, Pendlebury in particular.

scooter600x

30th May 2005, 10:03

Box Hill ... on their day will also give Werribee a real run for their money.Obviously a few weeks back it wasn't their day. Werribee should have won by 15 goals rather than falling in by 10.

diamond8

30th May 2005, 10:53

Agree with Longy's post before. Bendigo Bombers have some excellent VFL listed players so I don't see how 12/10 rule is going to affect them.

Also Werribee have lost Koops in recent weeks so there's one player who won't be available.

onslaught

30th May 2005, 11:22

I can't see Werribee being beaten until about Round 14 or 15, when they play Bendigo in Bendigo, and then Sandringham the following week. One of those two teams should get over the line.

Weird fixturing.. but Werribee play Springy again in just 3 weeks.

*cough* http://www.vflfooty.com

My North

30th May 2005, 11:37

Werribee are playing well but can they win in the finals this year???

HurricaneHazza

30th May 2005, 11:51

Go Werribee :) hehe.. even though its mostly bulldog players :(

ben.carbonaro

30th May 2005, 11:55

Our reserves down at Werribee only feature two or three and four Bulldogs players at the most each week.

We have some great talent in the reserves side such as Robbie Costello, James Allan (2004 Geelong rookie list) and Luke Collins.

Who else here rates Costello ?

pazza

30th May 2005, 12:01

Atkins has the right tactics to win on most grounds generally.

Very impressed with Salim Hassan. Looks a real talent already.

As to who could beat them, Bendigo look the most likely. As for the 12/10 rule, Bendigo have a good core group as Longy mentioned above.

There is a lot of experience in the team with Carter, Blumfield, Beasy and Doering all standing up regularly.

Ideally, under the 12/10 rule, this would be a best possible Bendigo team:

B: Rosa, Hunt (Essendon), Bowen
HB: Thomas (Essendon), Doering, Blumfield
C: Slattery, Monfries, Dyson (all Essendon)
HF: Carter (c), Johns (Essendon), Connaughton
F: Wilson (Essendon rookie), Robins, Beasy
R: Cartledge, Haynes (both Essendon), Jolley (Essendon rookie)
Int: Vigus, Pendlebury, Corcoran, Gilliland

cbreban

30th May 2005, 12:04

Bendigo can and will beat them, just as long as they have a full team on the park.

Kooley

30th May 2005, 15:31

Bendigo can and will beat them, just as long as they have a full team on the park.

Werribee have alot better VFL listed players than Bendigo. E.g Podsiadly is better than Beasy.

Longy413

30th May 2005, 15:38

Werribee have alot better VFL listed players than Bendigo. E.g Podsiadly is better than Beasy.

Doering would be the red hot favourite for the Liston.
Blumfield is a class act at VFL level and is getting better every week.
Beasy is a different player to Pods. He contributes but is by no means Bendigo's spearhead. He rotate's through there with Watson, Richards and now Johns. Beasy has AFL experience over Pods.
Carter finds plenty of the ball and is a very good leader.

bomberdude18 2

30th May 2005, 19:11

Werribee have alot better VFL listed players than Bendigo. E.g Podsiadly is better than Beasy.
Doering, Blumfield, Carter, Robins. You idiot

SirBloodyIdiot

30th May 2005, 19:22

Forgive the question, 12/10 rule?

bogan4life

30th May 2005, 19:56

B Williams (dogs) Henderson Rau
HB Sleeman Wight (dogs) Lamb
C O'Sullivan Griffen (dogs) Robertson
HF Bowden Bandy B. Murphy all dogs
F Darcy Podsiadly McGuiness (dogs)
R Street Birss(both dogs) Hassan
Int Faulkner Walsh(both dogs) Furfaro Castello

this depends on how many senior games Rawlings/Ray/griffen and Birss play

4 in the VfL state side. i think werribee would have to be flag favourites but all depands on if they can start winning in finals

ben.carbonaro

30th May 2005, 20:02

Yeah true, we (Werribee) have had a poor record in finals in recent years.

Flat Track Bully

30th May 2005, 20:46

Longy413

30th May 2005, 22:04

4 in the VfL state side. i think werribee would have to be flag favourites but all depands on if they can start winning in finals

Bendigo had 3 and Beasy and Blumfield pulled out on the Friday before with injury. At the very least, Blumfield would have played.

Gilliland trying very hard to be cleared to Euroa, his original club...

Very ordinary footballer at VFL level.

ben.carbonaro

1st June 2005, 10:30

Robbie Costello hasn plenty of pace and is an excitement machibe, he would conpliment Ed Darcy on the half forward line really well.

Who else is a Costello fan ?

Kooley

1st June 2005, 13:59

Doering, Blumfield, Carter, Robins. You idiot Whatever! Travis Robertson captain of the VFL side is the best player outside of the AFL never to play at AFL level. Never beaten and the premier VFL backman in the competition.

Podsiadly is alot more damaging proposition than Callan Beasy and has proven that over the last 3 years in the VFL. Beasy was extremely lucky to play the games he did with Carlton because not one of them was worth a pinch of shi.t

Doering is an excellent player and wins plenty of the pill but is hardly damaging. Hassan at Werribee is electrifying and takes players on.

Throw in young gun Chad O'Sullivan (probably leading the Liston after the first 6 rds) Teagan Henderson, Edward Darcy and Werribee have the cream of the crop when it comes to VFL listed players. Thats why they are on top and they don't look like being beaten. You idiot.

ben.carbonaro

1st June 2005, 14:05

Good work Kooley.

Should shut up all of the doubters of Werribee and chances of winning the premiership.

pazza

1st June 2005, 14:16

Whatever! Travis Robertson captain of the VFL side is the best player outside of the AFL never to play at AFL level. Never beaten and the premier VFL backman in the competition.

Podsiadly is alot more damaging proposition than Callan Beasy and has proven that over the last 3 years in the VFL. Beasy was extremely lucky to play the games he did with Carlton because not one of them was worth a pinch of shi.t

Doering is an excellent player and wins plenty of the pill but is hardly damaging. Hassan at Werribee is electrifying and takes players on.

Throw in young gun Chad O'Sullivan (probably leading the Liston after the first 6 rds) Teagan Henderson, Edward Darcy and Werribee have the cream of the crop when it comes to VFL listed players. Thats why they are on top and they don't look like being beaten. You idiot.

How can people doubt Bendigo's ability under Knights. Amazing how a new coach can turn a team, that was lucky to make last year's finals for their first time, into a serious premiership threat.

Bendigo are looking the goods to be at Carlton on the second last Sunday in September. Now, can you imagine a flock of red and black fans at Optus Oval on that particular day and the potential influence that could have on that day, because it is fair to say that plenty of Essendon fans, who do care about how Bendigo are travelling, would have the potential to make a difference.

Once again, Bendigo are playing well..yet aren't being given the credit.

celtic_pride

1st June 2005, 14:31

Who gives a fig about the Bendigo bombers.
They won't get anywhere near werribee.

pazza

1st June 2005, 14:40

Who gives a fig about the Bendigo bombers.
They won't get anywhere near werribee.

On the contrary. Whenever Bendigo Bombers have played Werribee, Bendigo have beaten them more times than the other way around, even when Bendigo were struggling and Werribee were flying.

With both teams flying, who knows what will happen at QEO in July.

Longy413

1st June 2005, 15:20

Podsiadly is alot more damaging proposition than Callan Beasy and has proven that over the last 3 years in the VFL. Beasy was extremely lucky to play the games he did with Carlton because not one of them was worth a pinch of shi.t

Beasy isn't Bendigo's FF. He spends time there, but rotates through with a number of others. That has been Bendigo's strength, we have a great deal of flexibility. Beasy has the ability to play FF, CHF, Ruck, CHB.

Doering is an excellent player and wins plenty of the pill but is hardly damaging. Hassan at Werribee is electrifying and takes players on.

Doering is incredibly damaging. His foot skills are outstanding, he simply doesn't miss a target. That comment right there shows you up as having a very simplistic and naive view of football.

Throw in young gun Chad O'Sullivan (probably leading the Liston after the first 6 rds) Teagan Henderson, Edward Darcy and Werribee have the cream of the crop when it comes to VFL listed players. Thats why they are on top and they don't look like being beaten. You idiot.

I haven't seen Werribee this season. So it makes it hard to comment. Doering has had at least 4 best on grounds. It wouldn't be to far fetched to believe he would have 12-15 votes already. He is absolutely flying.

It's fine to pump up Werribee, they are on top and deserve to be favourites. But to simply dismiss all other teams in the competition and to not be able to debate the topic at hand and objectively comment on their players shows a great deal of short-sightedness. If you haven't seen Bendigo please reserve judgement until you do.

You might also be interested to know that Bendigo have a significantly better percentage than Werribee and far and away the best defence in terms of points against in the comp.

X_box_X

1st June 2005, 15:26

No one looks like beating Werribee at the moment. I think it was season 2001, Werribee went 13 games before losing its first game (against Carlton at Optus Oval). The Tigers went on to finish on top the the ladder with two defeats, and they were unfortunately beaten by Geelong at TEAC Oval in the Preliminary Final.

I'm comparing the 2005 Werribee side to the 2001 one. Both extremely dominant sides. I thought Werribee would have gone through the season undefeated in 2001, but I was wrong. I wouldn't be all that surprised if the Tigers fall at the last hurdle, which they have a habit of doing.

Werribee is perhaps the best club at VFL level, and I'm not being biased. At the end of the season, I'm going to try and do a pre-season at Werribee and see what happens from there. It would be better for me to do a pre-season at Werribee than it would Bendigo. I'd get a whole lot more out of doing a pre-season at Chrinside Park.

Werribee > Bendigo.

Longy413

1st June 2005, 15:37

Werribee > Bendigo.

Based on where you would rather do a preseason?

Kooley

2nd June 2005, 09:43

Beasy isn't Bendigo's FF. He spends time there, but rotates through with a number of others. That has been Bendigo's strength, we have a great deal of flexibility. Beasy has the ability to play FF, CHF, Ruck, CHB.

Doering is incredibly damaging. His foot skills are outstanding, he simply doesn't miss a target. That comment right there shows you up as having a very simplistic and naive view of football.

I haven't seen Werribee this season. So it makes it hard to comment. Doering has had at least 4 best on grounds. It wouldn't be to far fetched to believe he would have 12-15 votes already. He is absolutely flying.

It's fine to pump up Werribee, they are on top and deserve to be favourites. But to simply dismiss all other teams in the competition and to not be able to debate the topic at hand and objectively comment on their players shows a great deal of short-sightedness. If you haven't seen Bendigo please reserve judgement until you do.

You might also be interested to know that Bendigo have a significantly better percentage than Werribee and far and away the best defence in terms of points against in the comp.

Simplistic! :confused:

I gave Doering a wrap just said he wasn't as damaging as a player who is prepared to run the lines. Werribee have an abundance of VFL listed players who can win 30 possession accross half back and use it OK. Just trying to make the point that in Hassan at Werribee they have the X factor Bendigo don't have unless you get Lovett back, who is a Esssendon listed player anyway.

As far as Beasy is concerned as a Carlton supporter I saw him play at close hand and have seen him play this year against Nth Ballarat and I don't rate him as highly as Pods. If you read my post carefully instead of making up stuff i was suppose to have written i never wrote that Beasy was just a full -forward. Just once again made the point that if we lined two KPP VFL listed players up against eachother from opposing teams Pods is more value and a better footballer than Beasy. Pods is also an accomplished full-back.

At the end of the day the team that can field as many quality AFL listed players in their sqauds come finals time should win the flag. But if you were rating the the worth of the VFL listed players then Werribee wins quite easily IMO. I'm also a Preston Supporter so i haven't any vested interest in Werribee.

X_box_X

2nd June 2005, 12:36

Based on where you would rather do a preseason?

That's correct. Everyone has an opinion, and my opinion is that I would get more out of doing a pre-season at Werribee than I would at Bendigo. I was born in Werribee and spent a fair portion of my life living there, but there is nothing biased about my opinion.

Werribee is a great club and a fairly successful one. I would prefer training with the best possible players, as it would have more of a positive effect on my football, and I honestly believe there are better players at Werribee than what there are at Bendigo.

Werribee, on and off the field, is a better side than Bendigo. It's been that way for years, and I see no reason why this will change.

marcuz

2nd June 2005, 13:08

Werribee, on and off the field, is a better side than Bendigo. It's been that way for years, and I see no reason why this will change.

It will change becuase a top, professional club with plenty of cash has alligned itself with Bendigo. Bendigo have announced major plans to improve their facilities on the back of this partnership. So off field money wise Bendigo has Werribee covered and on-field the gap is closing. Dont for one second be so cocky to think it will be a walk in the park for your mob.

sainter

2nd June 2005, 13:31

After watching both teams beat us I was far more impressed with Bendigo than Werribee. Perhaps the Tigers were just doing enough to get over the line but they looked far from the unbeatable team that the ladder suggests. Bendigo on the other hand blew us away with a second half of football that was very impressive.

The 12/10 rule in the finals does make things interesting. I know at the Scorpions we've only been able to field a maximum of 7/8 Saints players due to the St Kilda injury list and we've come up against teams with up to 16 or 17 AFL listed opponents. That rule would definitely bring teams back to the field. At the same time, it may be the clubs with their affiliated AFL club in the finals that could benefit the most because they won't have to worry about their players needing to qualify.

Longy413

2nd June 2005, 14:50

Werribee, on and off the field, is a better side than Bendigo. It's been that way for years, and I see no reason why this will change.

Three words. Essendon Football Club.

Essendon has complete control over Bendigo, from finances, to coaching staff.

I'd rather train at Werribee over Bendigo as well. Bendigo is a bloody long way to go. But that doesn't make Werribee a better TEAM.

bogan4life

2nd June 2005, 14:56

Three words. Essendon Football Club.

Essendon has complete control over Bendigo, from finances, to coaching staff.

I'd rather train at Werribee over Bendigo as well. Bendigo is a bloody long way to go. But that doesn't make Werribee a better TEAM.
its good that our young bulldog players and our werribee players get to train more together and become more of a team unlike the bombers

Longy413

2nd June 2005, 14:57

I gave Doering a wrap just said he wasn't as damaging as a player who is prepared to run the lines. Werribee have an abundance of VFL listed players who can win 30 possession accross half back and use it OK. Just trying to make the point that in Hassan at Werribee they have the X factor Bendigo don't have unless you get Lovett back, who is a Esssendon listed player anyway.

You don't need to run the lines when you can find space like Doering does. He sets up blokes who can run the lines and Bendigo have plenty of them. Nash, Dyson, Connaughton etc. I've seen Hassan play in the SANFL, completely different player to Doering, the comparison is useless. Davey runs the lines better than Hodge, but I can tell you who I'd rather have in my team.

As far as Beasy is concerned as a Carlton supporter I saw him play at close hand and have seen him play this year against Nth Ballarat and I don't rate him as highly as Pods. If you read my post carefully instead of making up stuff i was suppose to have written i never wrote that Beasy was just a full -forward. Just once again made the point that if we lined two KPP VFL listed players up against eachother from opposing teams Pods is more value and a better footballer than Beasy. Pods is also an accomplished full-back.

Different players. You shouldn't compare them. It's the comparison I had a problem with, not the ability of Pods. Pods was an Essendon rookie list player, I've seen him play.
Johns will be Bendigo's FF.

At the end of the day the team that can field as many quality AFL listed players in their sqauds come finals time should win the flag. But if you were rating the the worth of the VFL listed players then Werribee wins quite easily IMO.

It's irrelavant. Because at the end of the day they all run out and represent the same club, the same jumper, the same goal. If they are Essendon listed or Bendigo listed is irrelevant.
The better team will win, it may be neither Bendigo or Werribee, but until I see Werribee I will hold my call on who is the better team. But I do have every faith in Bendigo being able to take it up to anyone, our % suggests that we are every chance.

Longy413

2nd June 2005, 15:01

its good that our young bulldog players and our werribee players get to train more together and become more of a team unlike the bombers

You are showing yourself up as a fool here.

Beasy, Blumfield and Doering all train at Essendon as they are Melbourne based.
For the main session each week the whole Bendigo squad trains together and that includes the Essendon listed players.

Know I don't know for sure if the Bulldogs listed players train away from the main list more than once a week, but if they did I would be very suprised as it would be counter-productive to their development.

Bulldogs listed players wouldn't train with Werribee anymore than Essendon players do with Bendigo.

bogan4life

2nd June 2005, 15:16

You are showing yourself up as a fool here.

Beasy, Blumfield and Doering all train at Essendon as they are Melbourne based.
For the main session each week the whole Bendigo squad trains together and that includes the Essendon listed players.

Know I don't know for sure if the Bulldogs listed players train away from the main list more than once a week, but if they did I would be very suprised as it would be counter-productive to their development.

Bulldogs listed players wouldn't train with Werribee anymore than Essendon players do with Bendigo.
we have a lot of werribee players training at the bulldogs and using our gyms.
This always the bulldogs to get a good look at werribee listed players when it comes to the draft

The thing with Werribee/Bulldogs is that the dogs have not taken over werribee and let them run there own club.

Whne its comes to the afl clubn and vfl club coming together i fell it is better that it isnt a takeover like it is in bendigo.
both sides have very good teams but i fell that werribee wil be very hard to beat because of the fact they have very good vfl listed players and the Dogs players who are playing at werribee have been some of the older guys not just young kids

Lovett and lovett Murray will be a huge loss from bendigos flags chances

Longy413

2nd June 2005, 15:26

we have a lot of werribee players training at the bulldogs and using our gyms.
This always the bulldogs to get a good look at werribee listed players when it comes to the draft

There is no difference in the time Essendon players spent training with Bendigo, or Bendigo players spend training at Essendon than what happens at Werribee. The number one focus for an AFL club is the development of their younger players and for that very reason the time they spend training with their VFL club is limited to what is necessary.

Adelaide drafted Hudson from Werribee, you don't have to have a player using your gym to identify talent.

The thing with Werribee/Bulldogs is that the dogs have not taken over werribee and let them run there own club.

Whne its comes to the afl clubn and vfl club coming together i fell it is better that it isnt a takeover like it is in bendigo.s

If Essendon didn't join Bendigo, there is every chance Bendigo would no longer exist. They had not won a game for two years when the merger happened. They barely had a cent in the bank, they couldn't afford footballs, training gear etc.

Lovett and lovett Murray will be a huge loss from bendigos flags chances

Lovett hasn't played a single game for Bendigo this season. From memory I think Lovett-Murray has played two. They are no loss, because we haven't had them.

both sides have very good teams but i fell that werribee wil be very hard to beat because of the fact they have very good vfl listed players and the Dogs players who are playing at werribee have been some of the older guys not just young kids

Of course Werribee will be hard to beat, they are on top of the ladder. But Bendigo's % suggest that we aren't that far behind them. Bendigo like Werribee has some very good senior VFL listed players as well as some very exciting young AFL talent.

bogan4life

2nd June 2005, 21:31

Of course Werribee will be hard to beat, they are on top of the ladder. But Bendigo's % suggest that we aren't that far behind them. Bendigo like Werribee has some very good senior VFL listed players as well as some very exciting young AFL talent.
i have seen a lot of werribee this year and they seem to take there foot of the peddal when they no that the game is won
these 2 for the Gf

pazza

2nd June 2005, 21:53

i have seen a lot of werribee this year and they seem to take there foot of the peddal when they no that the game is won
these 2 for the Gf

They do seem to be a class above the likes of the Bullants and North Ballarat to name but 2 of those beneath them, but in the 8.

Just on the 8, it would also seem to be settled and that there doesn't appear to be a side of the 5 outside of the 8, that look like doing enough to get in.

You can basically say Williamstown, Geelong and Tasmania are virtually all assured of not making it, even now.

bogan4life

6th June 2005, 02:25

Werribee seeme dto take there foot of the pedal on saturday

bendigo by all reports where shocking still carnt find a team that will nknock them of any time soon

The 3 injurys to the dogs will hurt them but there depth is very good

would be about $2.50 for the flag ATM

bogan4life

11th June 2005, 18:43

well there 9 and 0 will any one beat them?

onslaught

12th June 2005, 10:47

Sandy will.

Barge

12th June 2005, 10:48

Longy413

12th June 2005, 10:56

As for Doering, take no notice of any stats you hear from his games. I remember the other year when he played for the Devils, he'd take the kick outs, kick it to himself and then kick from 1 foot outside of the goalsquare. Why? Because you don't get kick outs credited as a kick, unless you play on from the square!

Doering very rarely takes the kick-outs for Bendigo.

finders

12th June 2005, 10:57

The Zebras will be the only team to have a chance of beating them - depending on how the Dees are travelling with injuries.
And remember Sandringham have a sensational strike rate in GFs since 1985 they have been in 7 GFs and won 6 of them

Kooley

14th June 2005, 14:13

I would have thought a $2.50 flag favourite would have beat the bottom of the ladder Devils by more than 3 goals, even allowing for the downpour in Hobart yesterday!

As for Doering, take no notice of any stats you hear from his games. I remember the other year when he played for the Devils, he'd take the kick outs, kick it to himself and then kick from 1 foot outside of the goalsquare. Why? Because you don't get kick outs credited as a kick, unless you play on from the square!

If Tassie can't put up a decent fight against a any opposition on their home ground in ******** conditions then there is something wrong. The VFL is a very even competition and on their day with things going their way Tassie could knock off anyside. A 3 goal win to Werribee in Tassie in ordinary conditions is a pretty good result for Werribee I would have thought.

bogan4life

20th June 2005, 17:01

Yet again Werribee win will it happen this year?

Longy413

20th June 2005, 17:04

The VFL representative on SEN this morning interestingly enough tipped Bendigo for the flag.

pazza

20th June 2005, 17:10

Yet again Werribee win will it happen this year?

A win over Springvale by 3 goals at home. Not bad.

Bendigo put Coburg away by 10 goals. Pick the better result.

trizzles

20th June 2005, 17:30

How about we wait for the two teams to meet? Then we might get an accurate account of the situation.
While the game will be played in Bendigo and people will argue home ground advantage etc. I think that is the perfect opportunity to see where the two teams are at against each other.

bogan4life

20th June 2005, 23:58

A win over Springvale by 3 goals at home. Not bad.

Bendigo put Coburg away by 10 goals. Pick the better result.a 6 goals win but still.

Werribee havnt lost a game

Fullarton Power

21st June 2005, 00:09

Werribee are playing well but can they win in the finals this year???
Having played in several of their losing finals in the 80s and 90s, that's a pretty fair observation. Finals record ain't real impressive.

Kooley

21st June 2005, 09:58

The VFL representative on SEN this morning interestingly enough tipped Bendigo for the flag.

And who the hell might have that been? :confused:

Kooley

21st June 2005, 10:00

a 6 goals win but still.

Werribee havnt lost a game

Coburg struggling with injuries at the moment. Same with Werribee.

Longy413

21st June 2005, 10:12

And who the hell might have that been? :confused:

I can't actually remember his name. He is on SEN every Monday, gives a wrap up of the weekend's VFL results, he is from the VFL. Might have been Michael someone, honestly can't remember.

Not that it counts for much, but this is the poll from the VFL website -
Which team is currently favorites to take out the 2005 TXU VFL Premiership?
26% Werribee
32% Bendigo Bombers
14% Northern Bullants
9% Sandringham
4% Box Hill Hawks
6% Port Melbourne
3% North Ballarat
3% Frankston
3% Scorpions

Kooley

21st June 2005, 11:38

:rolleyes: I can't actually remember his name. He is on SEN every Monday, gives a wrap up of the weekend's VFL results, he is from the VFL. Might have been Michael someone, honestly can't remember.

Now if Michael somebody????? from the VFL says that Bendigo will win the flag then we should stop the season now, because he knows so much Michael somebody????? about the VFL it's not funny.

Longy413

21st June 2005, 11:52

:rolleyes:

Now if Michael somebody????? from the VFL says that Bendigo will win the flag then we should stop the season now, because he knows so much Michael somebody????? about the VFL it's not funny.

What are you going on about?

Did I say it was a definative answer as to who will win the Premiership?
Or did I say a representative from the VFL on SEN said that his tip for the Flag was Bendigo?
I'm sure that there are other people working at VFL HQ who believe Werribee will win, I'm sure there are even others who think it will be on of the other teams. Although I would suggest someone who works at the VFL has some sort of grasp of how the teams are travelling.

I'm make sure I listen out for his name full name next Monday, wouldn't want you to lose any sleep over someone's tip. Jesus Christ, get a grip.

Kooley

21st June 2005, 13:08

What are you going on about?

Did I say it was a definative answer as to who will win the Premiership?
Or did I say a representative from the VFL on SEN said that his tip for the Flag was Bendigo?
I'm sure that there are other people working at VFL HQ who believe Werribee will win, I'm sure there are even others who think it will be on of the other teams. Although I would suggest someone who works at the VFL has some sort of grasp of how the teams are travelling.

I'm make sure I listen out for his name full name next Monday, wouldn't want you to lose any sleep over someone's tip. Jesus Christ, get a grip.

settle down buddy. You were the one who brought it up. You barrack for Essendon, your point of view is obviously biased.

diamond8

21st June 2005, 13:09

No use arguing now over who will win the VFL flag.

Let's wait for September and then fire off the barbs!

Longy413

21st June 2005, 13:23

settle down buddy. You were the one who brought it up. You barrack for Essendon, your point of view is obviously biased.

It wasn't my point of view. It was someone else's.

I have never said Bendigo would win the Premiership, just that I have confidence in them taking it up to Werribee. Nothing that Werribee or Bendigo has done can suggest otherwise.

bogan4life

21st June 2005, 18:33

The way eade is coaching he is not putting the older guys into the side and playing the young kids which is Great fro Werribee because there ageeting under 10 games in the doggies ones.

Angry Dragon

22nd June 2005, 01:45

Having played in several of their losing finals in the 80s and 90s, that's a pretty fair observation. Finals record ain't real impressive.

Ian, you're such a loser.

Planck

22nd June 2005, 06:06

Who else here rates Costello ?Robbie is a great player. I definatly highly rate him. Saw him play for Werribee's firsts a couple of weeks ago and he really showed he belongs in Werribee's firsts.
I'm probably biased though going to school with him and playing with him at KP.

bogan4life

23rd June 2005, 17:19

Robbie is a great player. I definatly highly rate him. Saw him play for Werribee's firsts a couple of weeks ago and he really showed he belongs in Werribee's firsts.
I'm probably biased though going to school with him and playing with him at KP.didnt he play werribee 2s on the weekend?

Werribee only had 9 bulldogs listed players in there side the other day which is good come finals.

Kooley

24th June 2005, 14:09

didnt he play werribee 2s on the weekend?

Werribee only had 9 bulldogs listed players in there side the other day which is good come finals.

Yeh but their VFL listed players cra.p all over other teams VFL listed players.

pazza

24th June 2005, 14:25

Ian, you're such a loser.

Ian? As in Chops?

bogan4life

24th June 2005, 15:53

Yeh but their VFL listed players cra.p all over other teams VFL listed players.How do you rate the dogs players they will have in the finals at a VFL level.

Werribees VFL listed players are all of high standard and there are a lot of ex rookie listed players.

cbreban

26th June 2005, 17:32

Well we have our Answer:

Williamstown.

Barge

26th June 2005, 18:53

And they won without that impressive debutant from last week, young Nathan Buckley!

bogan4life

26th June 2005, 19:47

Werribe played shocking all day today. Rusling can play thats for sure.

pazza

26th June 2005, 22:29

Never easy to win any game @ Point Gellibrand, but, it was perfect conditions in Melbourne today.

Bendigo slipped up as well, thanks to very late goal by Longmuir for the Bullants. 4 point loss.

Longy413

4th July 2005, 12:59

:rolleyes:

Now if Michael somebody????? from the VFL says that Bendigo will win the flag then we should stop the season now, because he knows so much Michael somebody????? about the VFL it's not funny.

Mark Stone from the VFL. On SEN today, "Bendigo are the best side I've seen this year."

Remember, this is his opinion, not mine.

Travvy43

4th July 2005, 13:21

You have got to be serious, Mark Stones thoughts cannot be taken seriously, he is a puppet. Werribee at this stage are looking good beating a AFL littered Box Hill side on the weekend

pazza

4th July 2005, 13:31

Mark Stone from the VFL. On SEN today, "Bendigo are the best side I've seen this year."

Remember, this is his opinion, not mine.

Stoney knows a bit about footy. And being a westen suburbs footy journo (has links with both Williamstown and Werribee), he might know more than he's letting on.

Longy413

10th July 2005, 20:49

Sandy ;)

onslaught

11th July 2005, 00:30

yeah but willy beat them to it!

Will the Tigers continue to improve? I reckon there are a few sides who have underperformed this year, and will give the premiership a real shake.

bogan4life

11th July 2005, 01:47

yeah but willy beat them to it!

Will the Tigers continue to improve? I reckon there are a few sides who have underperformed this year, and will give the premiership a real shake.Dogs injurys have hit them hard with about 8 or 9 players who would be at Werribee playing for the dogs ATM.

Kooley

11th July 2005, 10:00

Stoney knows a bit about footy. And being a westen suburbs footy journo (has links with both Williamstown and Werribee), he might know more than he's letting on.

Stoney's comments were ludicrous and demonstrated his real lack of knowledge of not only the VFL but football in general . And lets be frank a western suburb journo's opinion (Howard Leigh is the exception) is usually very shallow. Take a look at the dribble that one Stephen Milne writes.

pazza

11th July 2005, 13:25

Going to be a ripping match @ QEO on Sunday.

Won't be much separating the teams at the end too I'm tipping.

Kooley

11th July 2005, 13:44

Going to be a ripping match @ QEO on Sunday.

Won't be much separating the teams at the end too I'm tipping.

I'm glad you think so Pazza. The VFL has become pretty pedestrian if you ask me. There is no atmosphere at all. I would much rather go and watch a suburban or country football game at the moment.

Longy413

11th July 2005, 14:03

I'm glad you think so Pazza. The VFL has become pretty pedestrian if you ask me. There is no atmosphere at all. I would much rather go and watch a suburban or country football game at the moment.

Should have been at Windy Hill yesterday then.
But on a whole, you are right.

Shame both sides aren't won't be at full strength, but should be a cracker none the less.

Dogs injurys have hit them hard with about 8 or 9 players who would be at Werribee playing for the dogs ATM.

Weren't you the one saying that Werribee's success this season has come on the back of the depth in Werribee's VFL listed players?

Any truth to the rumour Eddie Darcy has gone home?

pazza

11th July 2005, 14:17

I'm glad you think so Pazza. The VFL has become pretty pedestrian if you ask me. There is no atmosphere at all. I would much rather go and watch a suburban or country football game at the moment.

Reckon the very healthy crowd @ WH would disagree with that one there Kooley.

Weren't too many places that weren't populated yesterday...and the noise (maybe because I was involved in the yelling itself), was quite loud throughout.

Should get a similar crowd to QEO on Sunday actually...particularly if the Bendigo Addy helps out in spreading the word.

Kooley

11th July 2005, 14:34

Reckon the very healthy crowd @ WH would disagree with that one there Kooley.

Weren't too many places that weren't populated yesterday...and the noise (maybe because I was involved in the yelling itself), was quite loud throughout.

Should get a similar crowd to QEO on Sunday actually...particularly if the Bendigo Addy helps out in spreading the word.

Bendigo might be a different story. More of a community feel but most clubs in the Melbourne region have a very small and uninterested supporter base. Werribee lost yesterday but most people in Werribee and the surrounding areas couldn't give a sh.it. It's lost its appeal.

pazza

11th July 2005, 14:49

Bendigo might be a different story. More of a community feel but most clubs in the Melbourne region have a very small and uninterested supporter base. Werribee lost yesterday but most people in Werribee and the surrounding areas couldn't give a sh.it. It's lost its appeal.

Which is a shame...I'd agree there (mind you, Werribee has never been a great crowd puller...Willi, Port, Sandy and Box Hill are the "strength" you could say).

Motty

15th July 2005, 00:17

Kooley - I agree with your comments about the VFL having become pedestrian. The matches I have seen since the VFA became the AFL Twos show that the second tier of football in Victoria has become pretty soulless.

This is coming from someone who was lucky enough to see the VFA's halcyon years of the late 70s and early 80s when crowds of 10,000 would attend the match of the day and a crowd of 1,500 was considered pretty poor.

The VFL matches I have been to since the late 90s have been boring and listless compared to the passion shown at grass roots level. The life will return to the VFL when the names of the teams mean something again, rather than an AFL reserves side with a compromised history.

bogan4life

15th July 2005, 01:43

Weren't you the one saying that Werribee's success this season has come on the back of the depth in Werribee's VFL listed players?

Any truth to the rumour Eddie Darcy has gone home?Yeah but Werribee also have 4 or 5 players down as well, but will have 2 or 3 back this week i beleive.

Ed Darcy kicked 5 last week in the 2s and will be back in the 1s this week.

bogan4life

17th July 2005, 17:58

Well Bendigo can, look out for a stronger werribee side next week with gio Grant Smith McMahon and Morgan all up and fit.

Good to see Ed kcik 6

cbreban

17th July 2005, 18:03

2005 TRUenergy VFL Seniors

Bendigo Bombers 6.3 8.5 11.12 14.14 (98)
Werribee 4.0 8.2 11.3 15.4 (94)

BEST:
Bendigo Bombers: Hunt Lovett-Murray Watson Doering Beasy Bullen
Werribee: Lamb Hassan Robertson Darcy McGuiness Skipper

GOALS:
Bendigo Bombers: Watson 3 Marsh 2 Henneman 2 Beasy Bolton Bain Vigus Blumfield Alvey Doering
Werribee: Darcy 6 Skipper 2 Lamb Hassan Rawlings McCormack Lyons Furfaro Allan

REPORTED PLAYERS:
Bendigo Bombers: Nil
Werribee: Nil

Longy413

17th July 2005, 19:11

Well Bendigo can, look out for a stronger werribee side next week with gio Grant Smith McMahon and Morgan all up and fit.

Likewise with McPhee, Hille, Hird, Slattery, Welsh, Haynes all some chance to return for Essendon/Bendigo.

Wasn't much of a game today, conditions very ordinary and Bendigo really should have won by 6 goals.

But still, a please result, especially with a lot of young Bendigo listed players in the side.

bogan4life

18th July 2005, 02:12

Likewise with McPhee, Hille, Hird, Slattery, Welsh, Haynes all some chance to return for Essendon/Bendigo.

Wasn't much of a game today, conditions very ordinary and Bendigo really should have won by 6 goals.

But still, a please result, especially with a lot of young Bendigo listed players in the side.I thought Mcphee and hird were out for the year. how many essendon players did bendigo have?

I no werribee had 7 dogs players in it, from people who went they said it was a great game.

ben.carbonaro

18th July 2005, 09:02

Yeah, it was a great game with a high standard of football being played by both sides.

pazza

18th July 2005, 11:57

I thought Mcphee and hird were out for the year. how many essendon players did bendigo have?

I no werribee had 7 dogs players in it, from people who went they said it was a great game.

Bendigo's Essendon listed guys were: Alvey, Bolton, Henneman, Hunt, Watson, Bullen, Haynes, Lovett-Murray (and rookies Bain, Jolley and Wilson). So about a 50/50 split.

Longy413

18th July 2005, 11:59

I thought Mcphee and hird were out for the year. how many essendon players did bendigo have?

Hird is every chance to be back next week, if not then definately the week after. McPhee will be back this year, most likely miss another 1-2.

I no werribee had 7 dogs players in it, from people who went they said it was a great game.

6 Essendon listed players (Henneman, Watson, Alvey, Bolton, Hunt, Bullen) and 4 rookies (Jolley, Bain, Wilson, Lovett-Murray). So 10 all up, which is far and away the fewest Essendon players Bendigo have used all season.

The most pleasing thing was that we have probably found 3-4 young Bendigo listed players who will probably now remain in the side. Vigus (who played in Bendigo's finals side last season), Childs, Marsh and Richardson have come in and been very good. Richardson on debut yesterday was outstanding on the wing and Marsh was very lively up forward.

With Bowen still coming back from injury in the 2's, I dare say we now have a very good core of Bendigo blokes coming through in time for finals.

And not that it really matters, but there were 8 Dogs players playing for Werribee. Rawlings, Harrison, Walsh, McGuiness, Skipper, Morgan, Wight and McCormack.