The difference between Richmond & Geelong is... [Archive]

cub

20th June 2005, 00:46

Lets start with Mascot's

Pussycats (meowwww) v Tigers
Premierships 6 v 12

Current Tigers about 3-4 years at least behind Geelong, Geelong 11:50 on the premiership clock and ticking Richmond about 06:00 and just starting to tick.

Wheras Geelong are expected to be where they are ATM and we are not, I would say 1 game separating the teams at this stage if I barracked for the pussies I would be keeping my trap shut.

GO TIGERS

Partridge

20th June 2005, 07:57

one has a key forward the other doesnt. ;)

That's pretty much it. We've got a slightly more advanced list and a better midfield and defence but ABSOLUTELY NO FORWARD LINE. Richmond have an improving midfield, sometimes ok defence and 1 great forward. Problem is no one else helps him.

JeffDunne

20th June 2005, 08:26

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~fmis/53013956.jpg

itsintheblood

20th June 2005, 08:53

Leave us alone......ALL OF YOU.......ALL OF YOU!!!!

da_ilks

20th June 2005, 08:57

Tiger fans are pretty amusing

From claiming they were going to make the finals now they are just hanging sh*t on other teams

$5 who finishes higher season end :))

itsintheblood

20th June 2005, 08:58

Tiger fans are pretty amusing

From claiming they were going to make the finals now they are just hanging sh*t on other teams

$5 who finishes higher season end :))

Gee you're a big punter. How long did it take you to save that??? Dole week this week was it?

$5 says both of us finish above your crap excuse of a team.

Murray

20th June 2005, 09:02

1 solitary win.

One will finish in the 8, the other won't

turtle27

20th June 2005, 09:04

That's pretty much it. We've got a slightly more advanced list and a better midfield and defence but ABSOLUTELY NO FORWARD LINE. Richmond have an improving midfield, sometimes ok defence and 1 great forward. Problem is no one else helps him.Refreshing to hear another supporter say this Partridge. Browny was doing quite nicley, but Simmonds ans Staff need to lift to help the big fela, 4 goals on a busted up knee is pretty good, but wouldv'e kicked 8 on sat night if he played for Adelaide.

da_ilks

20th June 2005, 09:06

Gee you're a big punter. How long did it take you to save that??? Dole week this week was it?

$5 says both of us finish above your crap excuse of a team.

Make it $50 that Collingwood either finishes higher then you or has the same amount of wins come season end.

tigerdan

20th June 2005, 09:09

Lets start with Mascot's

Pussycats (meowwww) v Tigers
Premierships 6 v 12

As much as I hate to get stuck into a tiger supporter, we have not won 12 premierships, we have won 10.

itsintheblood

20th June 2005, 09:13

Make it $50 that Collingwood either finishes higher then you or has the same amount of wins come season end.

Gee you're talking life savings now??? I wouldnt want you to starve so no thanks. Keep your piggy bank intact.

da_ilks

20th June 2005, 09:16

Gee you're talking life savings now??? I wouldnt want you to starve so no thanks. Keep your piggy bank intact.

$50 is a reasonable bet I think.

One,

someone is actually likely to pay up in the instance of $50. Not pike out at a $100 or something.

Two,

I don't mind having a punt, but I'm hardling going to go nuts on a bet with an anonymous bloke on the Internet

If your not keen then dont' worry about it. Or put down a figure you'd be comfortable with :)

Murray

20th June 2005, 09:26

Gee you're talking life savings now??? I wouldnt want you to starve so no thanks. Keep your piggy bank intact.

Do I hear a chicken

itsintheblood

20th June 2005, 09:39

Do I hear a chicken

I wouldnt want to be responsible for starving collingwood fans. $5 is a lot of money to those wearing black and white. It's a start towards new teeth.

itsintheblood

20th June 2005, 09:40

$50 is a reasonable bet I think.

One,

someone is actually likely to pay up in the instance of $50. Not pike out at a $100 or something.

Two,

I don't mind having a punt, but I'm hardling going to go nuts on a bet with an anonymous bloke on the Internet

If your not keen then dont' worry about it. Or put down a figure you'd be comfortable with :)

You promise to pay me then??? You won't hide behind your keyboard???

Really? Truely? Honest? Cross your heart???

MrFloppy

20th June 2005, 09:42

Ah good old SaveFerris with your pathetic attempts to bag clubs. At least use some good material mate if your going to attempt to bag clubs. ;)

tusk

20th June 2005, 09:52

80 kms
:D :D

and we don't have possum crap in our change rooms

skywalk750

20th June 2005, 09:58

:D :D

and we don't have possum crap in our change rooms

I believe it was inside the coaches office :D

MOJOE

20th June 2005, 09:59

1 solitary win.

Maybe I should have kept that bet with you Ferris. Only way is down from here for the Tigers.

Youll be better for it next year

Truetiger

20th June 2005, 09:59

Tiger fans are pretty amusing

From claiming they were going to make the finals now they are just hanging sh*t on other teams

$5 who finishes higher season end :))

It wont be Collingwood once you get smashed next saturday night :)

da_ilks

20th June 2005, 10:29

You promise to pay me then??? You won't hide behind your keyboard???

Really? Truely? Honest? Cross your heart???

Yes

Sh*t we can put it in a neutral parties account now and the winner can get it seasons end

Maybe a mod/admin? :D

itsintheblood

20th June 2005, 11:08

Yes

Sh*t we can put it in a neutral parties account now and the winner can get it seasons end

Maybe a mod/admin? :D

How about we make it really interesting and make it $500????

MeestaNob

20th June 2005, 11:37

Any money that the Tigers finish 11th. Safest bet in the world.

Even Collingwood will finish above them.

The Dice Man

30th June 2005, 18:25

Fact is, that there is still only 1 win difference between Richmond and Geelong, yet Geelong supporters would have you believe that it is Richmond who are underperforming :eek:

crudbucket

1st July 2005, 16:35

We're a long way behind the Cats.

At least one season of solid development ... probably two.

Please refrain from coming onto this site and using common sense in your statements.... This is a first and final warning !!!

OneEyedHawk

1st July 2005, 21:55

We're a long way behind the Cats.

At least one season of solid development ... probably two.
I think that 2 years would even be a pretty optimistic evaluation. That's no slight on Richmond, but they are just (like hawthorn) beginning their rebuilding process, whereas Geelong are thereabouts to have a serious tilt at the flag.
I would think 4 years would be closer to the mark. Definately the case for Hawthorn, but it's debatable whether the Tiges actually started their rebuild last year, so maybe 3/4 for them.

GhostofJimJess

3rd July 2005, 23:30

II would think 4 years would be closer to the mark. Definately the case for Hawthorn, but it's debatable whether the Tiges actually started their rebuild last year, so maybe 3/4 for them.

Yeah, maybe 4 ... time will tell.

As for the last sentence, Richmond has certainly started to rebuild. Nicholls, Houlihan, Fleming, Fletcher, Blumfield, Marsh, Weller and Zantuck were all delisted - and regulars Ottens and Fiora traded for early picks and Simmonds.

That's a very substantial change in the playing list in a new coach's first two months at the helm. Especilaly considering ALL of our first 8 draft picks were spent on youngsters.

What I think you're confusing us with is the Hawks total bottoming-out approach, which is not the only way to rebuild. The Cats and Eagles never had sustained uselessness to get where they are.

The Dice Man

9th July 2005, 20:10

1 solitary win.

Better make that just percentage now. ;)

The Dice Man

31st July 2005, 16:38

1 solitary win.

And nothing has changed.

LongBomb

31st July 2005, 16:42

Thrashed by the wooden spooners and you bring his thread up like it is something to be proud of? :confused:

mantis

31st July 2005, 16:52

Thrashed by the wooden spooners and you bring his thread up like it is something to be proud of? :confused:

It's called deflection, our friend is an expert at it. ;)

The Dice Man

31st July 2005, 17:32

Thrashed by the wooden spooners and you bring his thread up like it is something to be proud of? :confused:

Nope. Just an update on the state of things.

It's called deflection, our friend is an expert at it.

I've been taking personal lessons from Sheeds, he reckons Im doing pretty well ;)

Paddywackers

31st July 2005, 18:19

Fact is, that there is still only 1 win difference between Richmond and Geelong, yet Geelong supporters would have you believe that it is Richmond who are underperforming :eek:

noone thinks the tigers are underperforming

The Dice Man

6th August 2005, 00:38

I started this thread almost 8 weeks ago, and............

Nothing ever happens, nothing happens at all
The needle returns to the start of the song
And we all sing along like before

Rooboy 96

6th August 2005, 00:50

I thought this was gunna be a Brad Ottens thread... about how Richmond were smart enough to get rid of him... :D :D

The Dice Man

6th August 2005, 00:53

I thought this was gunna be a Brad Ottens thread... about how Richmond were smart enough to get rid of him... :D :D

Who?

Oh Him... yeah I remember him but I dont discuss irrelevant players.

The Dice Man

21st August 2005, 23:38

Still nothing's changed in over 2 months, sadly next week will change this for better or for worse.

cub

22nd August 2005, 00:16

As much as I hate to get stuck into a tiger supporter, we have not won 12 premierships, we have won 10.

I wouldn't say stuck in and I get your point. But Richmond football club won 2 premierships in the VFA in 1902 and 1905 before joining the VFL/AFL. ;)

Ricketts

22nd August 2005, 17:08

the dotted line separating the top 8 from the bottom 8 is intangibly huge.

cub

22nd August 2005, 21:53

the dotted line separating the top 8 from the bottom 8 is intangibly huge.

Yep about the same diff as 1 - 4 as compared to 5 -8.

Ricketts

31st August 2005, 18:52

1 point on Sunday. :)

Ricketts

1st April 2006, 15:55

Approximately 270%.

DBAH0

1st April 2006, 15:58

1 solitary win.
At least you're right still. ;)

The Dice Man

1st April 2006, 15:59

Approximately 270%.

;) nice one:thumbsu:

mantis

1st April 2006, 16:08

Let this thread be a lesson to any noobs. BF people have looooooong memories. :D

Flag Man

1st April 2006, 16:09

forty two

The Dice Man

21st May 2006, 00:20

1 solitary win.

Almost a year later the difference between Geelong and Richmond is still just one solitary win :D :thumbsu:

TripleT

21st May 2006, 00:22

Almost a year later the difference between Geelong and Richmond is still just one solitary win :D :thumbsu:

hahaha

GOLD :D

Ragnarok14

21st May 2006, 00:34

Richmond have a coach that will do what it takes to win?

The Dice Man

27th May 2006, 17:03

We better make that 2 now :p

Although it's really 3 games from the start of the thread (geelong were 1 up).

:thumbsu:

The Dice Man

14th July 2006, 17:07

Still 2 games...

Im considering asking the BF Admin for a name change from the Dice Man, to The Prophet.

Not my idea, I get PMed almost daily asking for advice and what's going to happen each weekend and which teams are heading for a slide, as I seem to be able to spot it around 6-12 months before anyone else.

How's the view down there Catfans? :cool:

Bombers 2003

14th July 2006, 17:17

Gary Ablett played for one
+
Ezra Poyas played for the other.

LongBomb

14th July 2006, 17:19

I get PMed almost daily asking for advice and what's going to happen each weekend and which teams are heading for a slide, as I seem to be able to spot it around 6-12 months before anyone else.

Wow. your powers are almost eerie.

BTW - did you tip Richmond would be bottom 8 for the better part of 25 years?
Surely that was an easy one :p

The Dice Man

14th July 2006, 17:22

the dotted line separating the top 8 from the bottom 8 is intangibly huge.

Isn't it just! :D

The Dice Man

14th July 2006, 17:23

Let this thread be a lesson to any noobs. BF people have looooooong memories. :D

What are you trying to say Mantis?

I dont think you respect my Prophetic powers enough, so as a lesson to you I predict Essendon will be crap for years.

Now sit down, shut the **** up, and LEARN.:thumbsu:

mantis

14th July 2006, 17:25

Im considering asking the BF Admin for a name change from the Dice Man, to The Prophet.

Why not save ferris? :p

The Dice Man

14th July 2006, 17:26

he couldnt be saved.

Ricketts

14th July 2006, 18:16

Isn't it just! :D

Ahhhh dicey, dicey, dicey.

Just wait until the end of the season when we make the finals and your lot limp out in 9th again. :cool:

The Dice Man

14th July 2006, 18:29

Ahhhh dicey, dicey, dicey.

Just wait until the end of the season when we make the finals and your lot limp out in 9th again. :cool:

Certainly going to be an interesting end to the season, and I personally cant predict what is going to happen.

Come the end of the season though, I doubt there is going to be more than a game or 2 difference between the 2 teams.

The Dice Man

8th November 2006, 12:05

The difference between Richmond and Geelong is, that Richmond have off-field stability:)

Dear Jub Jub, this is a troll. ;)

The Dice Man

8th November 2006, 12:12

Ahhhh dicey, dicey, dicey.

Just wait until the end of the season when we make the finals and your lot limp out in 9th again. :cool:

Well you were half right... about the 9th bit :cool:

Cassius_Clay

8th November 2006, 12:13

Well you were half right... about the 9th bit :cool:
Who cant get that right though?

The Dice Man

8th November 2006, 12:14

Who cant get that right though?

True, it's not exactly a Dice-like prediction is it.

Ricketts

8th November 2006, 12:28

The difference between Richmond and Geelong is, that Richmond have off-field stability:)

How many coaches have you had in the last 15-20 years?

The Dice Man

8th November 2006, 12:33

How many coaches have you had in the last 15-20 years?

You're livin in the past man, i was referring to today, the here and now, whats going down right now.

Anyway dont get ya frilly knickers in a knot Ricketts, I only bumped this thread to give Jub Jub and idea of the differences between a troll post, and a non troll post.

(BTW, I was right;))

Khan

8th November 2006, 12:33

In last 15 - 20 years - Too many

Last decade - 2 + TW and when one of those is Danny and the other the Geish that isnt that bad.

:) gota smile

Butane

8th November 2006, 12:37

Geelong will never ever ever find a full forward. They are still on an Ablett Snr comedown and nobodys got any weed.

Partridge

8th November 2006, 12:45

Geelong will never ever ever find a full forward. They are still on an Ablett Snr comedown and nobodys got any weed.

And Footscray will? The last decent full forward you guys had was Simon Beasley. Geelong may not have had a top full forward since Ablett, but it doesn't mean they haven't been looking.

Aristotel

8th November 2006, 12:49

Richmond suck, Geelong don't?

I think you will find that Geelong do infact suck. The Catters couldn't even beat Richmond...in Geelong!

They also had NO major injuries this year (except for T.Lonegan, who lost a kidney in round 22), Richmond had broken bones left, right and centre.

And Geelong's best player can't stop himself being reported every couple of weeks....Major problems at Cat-land.

P.S. Richmond are still not very good either.

Partridge

8th November 2006, 12:51

And Geelong's best player can't stop himself being reported every couple of weeks....Major problems at Cat-land.

Last time I checked Scarlett was reported once, and Chapman wasn't reported at all. They are our two best players by some distance.

Goldust

8th November 2006, 12:58

One team has beaten a team(s) in the top 8....one hasn't??

:) TWO wins over finalists apiece!

Aristotel

8th November 2006, 13:02

Last time I checked Scarlett was reported once, and Chapman wasn't reported at all. They are our two best players by some distance.

O.K....:confused:

Schlarb

8th November 2006, 13:06

Ummm...one has a lot of bald players???

Butane

8th November 2006, 13:08

And Footscray will? The last decent full forward you guys had was Simon Beasley. Geelong may not have had a top full forward since Ablett, but it doesn't mean they haven't been looking.

No, thats not what i meant at all. Although i didn't really explain myself. I think what i meant was Geelong is ALWAYS looking for a forward since Ablett retired. They blame everything on the fact they don't have an Ablett around anymore.....well at least an Ablett esk player. I'am sick of it, they always whinge about it, What was Ottens for? Why get rid of Kent Kinglsey if he can get over 50 goals? Every club is looking for the next Gary Ablett Snr aren't they?, so you get no points for looking. So i don't ever want to hear another Geelong supporter tell me they need a forward, the truth is they were very lucky to find a gem in Ablett Snr and my point is Geelong fans arn't happy until they find another once in 50 years player liek Ablett snr.

And here comes Tom Hawkins....wow how lucky is that? Not bad for a club that whines about not picking up good forwards, and it just fell in their lap.
*shakes head*

P.S Western Bulldogs - Not Footscray (i think your still stuck in the 90s when Geelong had a player called Ablett)

Borgsta

8th November 2006, 13:09

Dear Jub Jub, this is a troll. ;)

So this has been moved to Bay 13

The Dice Man

8th November 2006, 13:13

So this has been moved to Bay 13

Only 18 months late ;)

In fact it had already been moved to Bay 13 IIRC, and there were more recent posts in it but that was just before the Big Footy crash in 2006.

Partridge

8th November 2006, 13:27

So i don't ever want to hear another Geelong supporter tell me they need a forward, the truth is they were very lucky to find a gem in Ablett Snr and my point is Geelong fans arn't happy until they find another once in 50 years player liek Ablett snr.

P.S Western Bulldogs - Not Footscray (i think your still stuck in the 90s when Geelong had a player called Ablett)

I understand your point, but in my opinion it's totally incorrect. We certainly don't expect another player like Ablett to come along. But since he retired only 3 times has a Geelong player exceeded 50 goals in a season, over 10 seasons. That's just not good enough. Our forward line - or lack of it - has been a massive, massive problem.

What most Geelong supporters want is a quality key forward. Not great, not the best of all time, just good enough to help us kick winning scores. If that's a bad thing to hope for, you'll have to forgive us. And you can shake your head about Hawkins, but he hasn't played a game yet. Might be a dud.

By the way, I'm not living in the 90s, but I refuse to call a team something else just because a Marketing Manager tells me to. As half my family grew up in Yarraville, and I spent a lot of time at the Geelong Road end watching the Dogs, I'll call them what I want.

GhostofJimJess

8th November 2006, 20:55

How many coaches have you had in the last 15-20 years?

15 years? = 6
20 years? = 7

Grin

8th November 2006, 21:38

I think you will find that Geelong do infact suck. The Catters couldn't even beat Richmond...in Geelong!

They also had NO major injuries this year (except for T.Lonegan, who lost a kidney in round 22), Richmond had broken bones left, right and centre.

And Geelong's best player can't stop himself being reported every couple of weeks....Major problems at Cat-land.

P.S. Richmond are still not very good either.

Collingwood couldn't even beat richmond either.
So by your very own criteria Collingwood suck.

Aristotel

9th November 2006, 07:05

Collingwood couldn't even beat richmond either.
So by your very own criteria Collingwood suck.

No. This year Collingwood came from 15th in 2005 and finished 5th after the H&A season.

Geelong were premiership favorites after 3 rounds, and ended up finishing 10th!!!!

Also, Geelong are the ONLY Victorian team with a REAL home ground advantage....and they still lost to Richmond there...and Hawthorn...and they managed only a draw against Melbourne at Kadinia Park.

Trust me mate. Geelong are in a whole other world of suckiness compared to the Pies.:thumbsu:

The Majestic

9th November 2006, 09:14

One finishes 9th every year and the other doesn't?

chapmanmagic35

9th November 2006, 09:24

No. This year Collingwood came from 15th in 2005 and finished 5th after the H&A season.

Geelong were premiership favorites after 3 rounds, and ended up finishing 10th!!!!

Also, Geelong are the ONLY Victorian team with a REAL home ground advantage....and they still lost to Richmond there...and Hawthorn...and they managed only a draw against Melbourne at Kadinia Park.

Trust me mate. Geelong are in a whole other world of suckiness compared to the Pies.:thumbsu:

Both have one flag in the last 50 odd years. Not so much another world after all.

yellowandblack2007

9th November 2006, 09:54

One has 11 wins in 2006.
One has 10 premierships.
One has a list in early development stages.
One has a good list that faulted this year.
One has off-field issues.
One has has won a flag in colour broadcast tv.
One will make the finals in 2007 (unfortunately I believe that one will be Geelong).
Both will make the finals in 2008.

Thats my two cents.

Aristotel

9th November 2006, 10:40

Both have one flag in the last 50 odd years. Not so much another world after all.

Or, Collingwood 1 flag in the last 16 years. Geelong no flags since the '60's....Whichever way you want to word it.

I still have alot of respect for the Cats...Not my least favorite club by a long shot, but 2006 was a disaster for them, and the title of the thread was "difference between Richmond & Geelong"....I don't know how Collingwood came into it. I certainly didn't bring it up.

yellowandblack2007

9th November 2006, 11:12

Or, Collingwood 1 flag in the last 16 years. Geelong no flags since the '60's....Whichever way you want to word it.

I still have alot of respect for the Cats...Not my least favorite club by a long shot, but 2006 was a disaster for them, and the title of the thread was "difference between Richmond & Geelong"....I don't know how Collingwood came into it. I certainly didn't bring it up.

It seems that the presence of a collingwood supporter is enough to start the windfall. Personally I dont see what started the pie bashing myself haha.

On a side note, I think we will beat you guys again next year. We seem to match up well on you. Probably just a little quicker on our feet. But time will tell. (Not bagging just saying)

Aristotel

9th November 2006, 11:54

It seems that the presence of a collingwood supporter is enough to start the windfall. Personally I dont see what started the pie bashing myself haha.

On a side note, I think we will beat you guys again next year. We seem to match up well on you. Probably just a little quicker on our feet. But time will tell. (Not bagging just saying)

Interesting that you say that, 'cos this year when the Tigers beat Collingwood it was a shocking, wet'n windy day and I believe the reason for the loss (viewing from the comfort of my lounge-room) was mainly to do with the fact that the Pies had the match penciled in as a win before the ball was bounced, having beaten the reigning premiers easily in Sydney the week before had something to do with it I think....By the time the Collingwood players decided to pay Richmond any respect, you lot were 40points infront.....well done.

Welcome to the "Magpies season 2006 critique thread" everyone.....how we got here I don't know!

yellowandblack2007

9th November 2006, 13:27

Interesting that you say that, 'cos this year when the Tigers beat Collingwood it was a shocking, wet'n windy day and I believe the reason for the loss (viewing from the comfort of my lounge-room) was mainly to do with the fact that the Pies had the match penciled in as a win before the ball was bounced, having beaten the reigning premiers easily in Sydney the week before had something to do with it I think....By the time the Collingwood players decided to pay Richmond any respect, you lot were 40points infront.....well done.

Welcome to the "Magpies season 2006 critique thread" everyone.....how we got here I don't know!

haha well you better get used to those conditions because you practically play the entire 2007 season at the MCG according to the Collingwood/AFL 2007 fixture.