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Jaymin
7 Jul 2005, 23:21
All signs point to Yes.

Cooldude
7 Jul 2005, 23:26
:D

He has to be in the Test squad, considering how badly our middle order have struggled apart from him and Symonds, and both of them ain't in the Test squad

Our batting is a bigger concern than our bowling atm

spookism
7 Jul 2005, 23:27
In his current form he is bloody awesome... Best Batsman though?? Not yet, still needs to cement a test spot... but if he does that with his current form he soon will be one of the best

Star
7 Jul 2005, 23:28
Thats what I love about BF - no-one makes the big statements :D

Jaymin
7 Jul 2005, 23:30
The important thing is:-

M.Hussey > B.Hodge

eddiesmith
8 Jul 2005, 00:38
******** off Jaymin, seriously you are getting quite boring now

Husseys form in first class cricket in Australia aint that crash hot, he is good but he is 2nd in line for a spot in the middle order, he can wait his turn

Personally I would bring him in and drop both Clarke and Katich, but the selectors will find it hard enough to drop 1 NSW player

usalion
8 Jul 2005, 00:41
Let Hussey put up some four day numbers, then we can talk...doing well in giggle cricket..... but put him up to the real Test and see if he holds up....plenty of folks in front of him...

mattyc2422
8 Jul 2005, 00:44
He's composed, more than you can say for alot of other batsmen.

And the Pommy commentators get hard over him.

Stafford678
8 Jul 2005, 00:46
better then hodge by a long way

repeat again, hodge will not play test cricket for australia

eddiesmith
8 Jul 2005, 00:48
better then hodge by a long way

repeat again, hodge will not play test cricket for australia

You idiot

There is nothing you could produce to back up your argument that Hussey is better than Hodge

TigerFan
8 Jul 2005, 01:16
I'm not going to pretend this is expert opinion (we seem to be unable to accept that people can have differing yet equal opinions) but...

Hussey is a better batsman than Hodge, Hussey should have been in the test team five years ago and Hussey's form at Gloucestershire (I think he's at Durham now) more than justifies his inclusion in the test side (AT THE EXPENSE OF THAT TWIT MARTYN).

Australia's lineup is becoming stale.

be PROACTIVE - not REACTIVE.

wouldn't it be funny if national selector Border was a contributing factor in Australia's descent into mid 1980s-esque crisis again?

eddiesmith
8 Jul 2005, 01:20
I'm not going to pretend this is expert opinion (we seem to be unable to accept that people can have differing yet equal opinions) but...

Hussey is a better batsman than Hodge, Hussey should have been in the test team five years ago and Hussey's form at Gloucestershire (I think he's at Durham now) more than justifies his inclusion in the test side (AT THE EXPENSE OF THAT TWIT MARTYN).

Australia's lineup is becoming stale.

be PROACTIVE - not REACTIVE.

wouldn't it be funny if national selector Border was a contributing factor in Australia's descent into mid 1980s-esque crisis again?

So, belting around the sub standard bowlers in COunty cricket should get you in ahead of a player who can also belt around the bowlers in Australia, something Hussey fails to do? :rolleyes:

pinkus maximus
8 Jul 2005, 01:22
I have come to the conclusion that Husseys stagnant domestic form over the last 2 years is due to him being bored ********less with playing domestic cricket

TigerFan
8 Jul 2005, 01:23
So, belting around the sub standard bowlers in COunty cricket should get you in ahead of a player who can also belt around the bowlers in Australia, something Hussey fails to do? :rolleyes:

belting around the best in the world in the international one-day arena doesn't beat domestic Australian bowlers?

eddiesmith
8 Jul 2005, 01:24
belting around the best in the world in the international one-day arena doesn't beat domestic Australian bowlers?

One day cricket is very different to test cricket, and given the standard of some attacks, no

melbournemartin
8 Jul 2005, 01:24
well he aint done anything wrong this tour batting down at number 8

if he isnt a definate starter for this test series then there is something wrong.

this is the test lineup i wanna see

Langer
Hayden
Ponting
Martyn
Clarke
Hussey
Gilchrist
Warne
Lee
Kasprowicz
McGrath

Gillespie is just struggling 2 much 2 be picked ahead of kasper who has been in awesome test form. lee is a must have also warne will straighten us up.

martyn and clarke will have katitch and symonds nipping at their heels.

hayden might also find himself in trouble but then who opens? gilly has new ball experience but not at test level.

eddiesmith
8 Jul 2005, 01:27
I have come to the conclusion that Husseys stagnant domestic form over the last 2 years is due to him being bored ********less with playing domestic cricket

Season Matches Inns Not Out Runs HS Ave 100 50 Ct St
1994-95 (Australia) 1 1 0 16 16 16.00 0 0 0
1995-96 (Australia) 12 24 1 945 146 41.08 2 3 9
1996-97 (Australia) 12 22 2 928 147 46.40 2 5 5
1997-98 (Australia) 12 21 2 915 134 48.15 3 3 3
1998 (Ireland) 1 1 1 125 125* 1 0 0
1998 (Scotland) 1 1 0 67 67 67.00 0 1 0
1998-99 (Australia) 12 22 0 907 187 41.22 1 7 8
1999-00 (Australia) 10 18 1 874 172* 51.41 3 3 13
2000-01 (Australia) 11 21 1 605 137 30.25 1 1 13
2001 (England) 16 30 4 2055 329* 79.03 5 9 19
2001-02 (Australia) 11 19 1 621 100 34.50 1 4 16
2002 (England) 13 23 2 1442 310* 68.66 5 4 21
2002-03 (Australia) 10 17 1 610 145 38.12 1 4 13
2003 (England) 14 21 2 1697 331* 89.31 6 5 17
2003-04 (Australia) 11 22 0 920 138 41.81 1 8 17
2004 (England) 7 13 1 442 78 36.83 0 2 10
2004-05 (Australia) 9 17 3 851 223* 60.78 3 2 11
2005 (England) 5 9 2 625 253 89.28

Interesting thoughts that, looking at those stats he hasnt done much really for about 5-6 years and his last seasons average was boosted by 1 good score. His first class average is boosted by those seasons in England

The_Eagles
8 Jul 2005, 01:27
I wouldnt have anyone nipping at martyn's heels

eddiesmith
8 Jul 2005, 01:30
well he aint done anything wrong this tour batting down at number 8

if he isnt a definate starter for this test series then there is something wrong.

martyn and clarke will have katitch and symonds nipping at their heels.

hayden might also find himself in trouble but then who opens? gilly has new ball experience but not at test level.

Love how everyone forgets Hodge who is actually in the squad. Maybe it means the selectors see Hussey as a better one day player and Hodge as a better test option?

Symonds? Haha, thats funny

As for Hayden, the only player around is really Elliott, and he has good form in England, but I doubt they will go back to him. Has the advantage of being in England atm. Katich is one they see as an opener and the WA people can confirm this, is Hussey an opener in the 1 dayers or 4 dayers for WA???

Unwritten_Law
8 Jul 2005, 01:30
I think Hussey has struggled at Gloucestershire after mounting big piles of runs at Northampts? Then again, his first class record in Aus is probably worse than Michael
Clarkes.

hoss
8 Jul 2005, 01:32
martyn and clarke will have katitch and symonds nipping at their heels.

hayden might also find himself in trouble but then who opens? gilly has new ball experience but not at test level.

Why the hell would Martyn have anyone nipping at his heels? Form has been better than just about everyones other than Hussey, who is not in the squad. Perhaps Ponting would have Katich nipping at his heels.

hoss
8 Jul 2005, 01:33
Hussey has proved he can bat on these Pommie wickets. No one else has.

linger_isgod
8 Jul 2005, 09:14
Katich is one they see as an opener and the WA people can confirm this, is Hussey an opener in the 1 dayers or 4 dayers for WA???
Yeah, Huss bats down the order for one-dayers most of the time, while opens in the Pura Cup. But really, he just bats wherever there's a possie open.

mrcracker
8 Jul 2005, 09:47
Mike Hussey has the one day form of Bevan and the county form of Elliott. On both counts this excludes him from the Australian test team! :) He queue jumped past Katich in the ODI side. He hasn't queue jumped past Clarke because Clarke is still batting higher then him. Despite how good he is at the end of an innings any batsman wants to play higher up the order in ODI cricket. In the test match queue it used to be Clarke, Katich then Hodge with Hussey not even in the squad. You would think he would come in behind Hodge (who is also in very good form on English wickets).

You can't pick the test side on Natwest form, otherwise Ponting wouldn't make the team.

linger_isgod
8 Jul 2005, 10:20
hahahahahaahaha.

No.

Talk about an overreaction :rolleyes:

pav_is_god
8 Jul 2005, 12:03
Hussey for PM.

Chops18
8 Jul 2005, 12:10
Dont think hes proven to be the best, why would you say that. Punter is better by the preverbial longshot not to mention Gilly and Haydos. Yes hes had a good series but if he were to play the tests he will fail. He 4 day games here were not to flash. Tendulkar, Lara, Jayasariya they are what you call the best. Not someone who has only played a handful of games.

linger_isgod
8 Jul 2005, 13:07
Tendulkar, Lara, Jayasariya they are what you call the best. Not someone who has only played a handful of games.
Someone with a Test average of 43 and an ODI average of 31 deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as Tendulkar and Lara?

Could have fooled me.

Power21
8 Jul 2005, 13:17
Martyn would be one of the first picked at the moment he is in grat form. If punter wasnt captain he would be in trouble and haydos cant be to many failures away from being dropped.

I personally want to see Clarke dropped for Hussey and Dizzy to stay in ahead of Kaspa. Someone said Kaspa was in great test form, well so was Dizzy before these one dayers so where is the logic there.

Cooldude
8 Jul 2005, 13:21
Martyn in great form? Yes...... right......

We don't have a Steve Waugh or Mark Waugh, who has been the rock of our Ashes success for since 89, because they anchor that middle order if the openers do get nicked out with the swingy and dippy conditions in England.

Clarke is a flashy player, but hardly reliable.

Hussey though, is that type of player that can anchor an innings by just taking singles and building partnerships.

Power21
8 Jul 2005, 13:25
Martyn in great form? Yes...... right......

We don't have a Steve Waugh or Mark Waugh, who has been the rock of our Ashes success for since 89, because they anchor that middle order if the openers do get nicked out with the swingy and dippy conditions in England.

Clarke is a flashy player, but hardly reliable.

Hussey though, is that type of player that can anchor an innings by just taking singles and building partnerships.

Martyn was second intest runs lest season for Australia atleast if not the world, only behind Langer, and has been one of our best this series, how could you possibly think he isnt in good form.

He was favourite for the Allan Border medal to.

Cooldude
8 Jul 2005, 13:28
Martyn has looked ordinary at best since the start of this tour

Dizzy was the best Aussie bowler during that period as well, it shows how quickly things change

Power21
8 Jul 2005, 13:32
Martyn has looked ordinary at best since the start of this tour

Dizzy was the best Aussie bowler during that period as well, it shows how quickly things change

It really depends if they want to choose the side on ODI form or Test form they are obviously different games. I still think clarke should be dropped he is a young player and must learn that prolonged failures with the bat cant be tolerated as he hasnt done much since India.

Cooldude
8 Jul 2005, 13:33
Clarke doesn't suit the English conditions anyway, his technique is highly suspect in this type of English conditions.

sinepari
8 Jul 2005, 13:51
******** off Jaymin, seriously you are getting quite boring now


Eddie. You've always been boring.

For too long have we had to put up with pro-victorian/Hodge crap.

scmods
8 Jul 2005, 14:49
I think it's fair to say that Hussey is by far the greatest batsman in the history of world cricket.

I don't think anyone can argue with that.

0497
8 Jul 2005, 14:53
Only Hussey can hold his head up high.

Freo Big Fella
8 Jul 2005, 16:05
Huss can hold his head high because of his international form so far. No doubt he will be able to hold it higher when Hodge fails against an international standard attack (just like he always does).

eddiesmith
8 Jul 2005, 16:13
Huss can hold his head high because of his international form so far. No doubt he will be able to hold it higher when Hodge fails against an international standard attack (just like he always does).

What, like that 260 he made against India? :rolleyes:

Eagles_09
8 Jul 2005, 16:15
Pretty Simple Answer No were near the best batsmen in the world

YOTC
8 Jul 2005, 17:03
What, like that 260 he made against India? :rolleyes:
Pfft, even Ponting has done that. :rolleyes: :p

Freo Big Fella
8 Jul 2005, 17:08
What, like that 260 he made against India? :rolleyes:

The same Indian attack (Balaji I beleive) that knocked him off for a pair in the 4-Dayer in Hobart. Not discounting his complete and utter faliure to make a score against Zimbabwe, Pakistan, India or the Windies in Aus-A games.

But hang on!, I seem to recall you denouncing Indias attack as substandard because "The Pretty Boy" could make 155 against them? Which is it? Besides, he's not going to be playing on a lovingly prepared Junction Oval designed to pad the stats of Vic hacks.

eddiesmith
8 Jul 2005, 17:11
The same Indian attack (Balaji I beleive) that knocked him off for a pair in the 4-Dayer in Hobart. Not discounting his complete and utter faliure to make a score against Zimbabwe, Pakistan, India or the Windies in Aus-A games.

But hang on!, I seem to recall you denouncing Indias attack as substandard because "The Pretty Boy" could make 155 against them? Which is it? Besides, he's not going to be playing on a lovingly prepared Junction Oval designed to pad the stats of Vic hacks.

The game was at the MCG :rolleyes: Also the Indian attack is better than the hacks from NZ. And who cares about games in Hobart, it only gets Aus A games because it is of a poor standard and not up to test matches.

YOTC
8 Jul 2005, 17:13
The game was at the MCG :rolleyes: Also the Indian attack is better than the hacks from NZ. And who cares about games in Hobart, it only gets Aus A games because it is of a poor standard and not up to test matches.
lol, wow the M.C.G, i mean it must be so mucher hard to make 250+ at the M.C.G than Junction Oval.

Oh wait, Langer did that, against your pommie boys. India's spin attack is better in Australia than Englands old Pace Attack?

eddiesmith
8 Jul 2005, 17:19
lol, wow the M.C.G, i mean it must be so mucher hard to make 250+ at the M.C.G than Junction Oval.

Oh wait, Langer did that, against your pommie boys. India's spin attack is better in Australia than Englands old Pace Attack?

Of course it is harder to score 264 on the MCG (Biggest ground in Aus) than the Junction

Where did I say that? I aint knocking Husseys performances, just he is behind Hodgey in the line

And I find it funny how you all love to distort facts

A pair in Hobart? Try 1 and 33 (2nd highest score of the innings, Hussey 7, Rogers 2 :rolleyes: )

Hodgeys Aus A record
275 runs @ 39.28

patsmith
8 Jul 2005, 17:22
Eddie, do you think we should just replace the entire Aussie team with the Victorian one? You remind me of Bill Lawry in 12th Man...

eddiesmith
8 Jul 2005, 17:27
Eddie, do you think we should just replace the entire Aussie team with the Victorian one? You remind me of Bill Lawry in 12th Man...

It seems like people in WA want to replace the entire team with the WA team

I just want to see Hodgey get the shot he deserves and what he has done in his career shows he is a better candidate for the next test batting spot ahead of Hussey and the selectors obviously see that as he has been in the reserve batsmans spot for a year now

Ljp86
8 Jul 2005, 17:34
The important thing is:-

M.Hussey > B.Hodge

:D It's so true.

diamond8
8 Jul 2005, 17:36
One day cricket is very different to test cricket, and given the standard of some attacks, no

You'd have to agree though that Harmison, Flintoff, Jones etc are a reasonable line-up and that Hussey has clearly been our best performer in the ODI's.

To drop Hayden for one semi-average series is ridiculous.

YOTC
8 Jul 2005, 17:39
It seems like people in WA want to replace the entire team with the WA team

I just want to see Hodgey get the shot he deserves and what he has done in his career shows he is a better candidate for the next test batting spot ahead of Hussey and the selectors obviously see that as he has been in the reserve batsmans spot for a year now
We only have 4 in the ODI team (best performing 4 anyways).

Hodgey deserves nothing, 1 good season and Victorians think he is king ********.

Hussey has only played 8 more First Class Matches than Hodge, has scored 2000 more runs, has a higher avg (6 runs more) and Hussey is also younger than Hodge. He even has a better bowling avg than Hodge.

Victorians were complaining when Clarke got the nod ahead of Hodge. Didn't hear many complaints from WA though, Hussey beats Clarke in all aspects of the game.

Face it, you Victorians are just very very Paranoid.

melbournemartin
8 Jul 2005, 17:40
Love how everyone forgets Hodge who is actually in the squad. Maybe it means the selectors see Hussey as a better one day player and Hodge as a better test option?

Symonds? Haha, thats funny

As for Hayden, the only player around is really Elliott, and he has good form in England, but I doubt they will go back to him. Has the advantage of being in England atm. Katich is one they see as an opener and the WA people can confirm this, is Hussey an opener in the 1 dayers or 4 dayers for WA???
i aint forgotten about hodge but he is behind these other guys

yeh symonds is inexperienced in tests but unlike lots of our other batsman he has eben able to score runs on these ******** england wickets

Ljp86
8 Jul 2005, 17:41
We only have 4 in the ODI team (best performing 4 anyways).

Hodgey deserves nothing, 1 good season and Victorians think he is king ********.

Hussey has only played 8 more First Class Matches than Hodge, has scored 2000 more runs, has a higher avg (6 runs more) and Hussey is also younger than Hodge. He even has a better bowling avg than Hodge.



End. Of. Thread.

Freo Big Fella
8 Jul 2005, 17:42
It seems like people in WA want to replace the entire team with the WA team




Bollocks, I'd just prefer not to select proven faliures at international level for the Test Team.

Scorecard (http://aus.cricinfo.com/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/2003-04/IND_IN_AUS/SCORECARDS/IND_AUS-A_19-21DEC2003.html)


33 off 118; what a hero! :rolleyes:

Clarke 131
Rogers 70
Hussey 67

Plus the 260 came off a 3-day draw which Sourav admitted the Indians were using for Batting practice and weren't taking seriously.

Scorecard (http://aus.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2004-05/WI_IN_AUS/SCORECARDS/WI_AUS-A_08JAN2005.html)

3 against the most mediocre WI attack in years, what a champion!

Scorecard (http://aus.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2004-05/WI_IN_AUS/SCORECARDS/WI_AUS-A_09JAN2005.html)

14! My hero!

Scorecard (http://aus.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2004-05/WI_IN_AUS/SCORECARDS/WI_VIC_05JAN2005.html)

3!

I could go on, but I can't really be stuffed.


Actually, I'll add one more.

Scorecard (http://aus.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2004-05/PAK_IN_AUS/SCORECARDS/PAK_WA_09-12DEC2004.html)

and he didn't do it on a road either.

eddiesmith
8 Jul 2005, 19:54
We only have 4 in the ODI team (best performing 4 anyways).

Hodgey deserves nothing, 1 good season and Victorians think he is king ********.

Hussey has only played 8 more First Class Matches than Hodge, has scored 2000 more runs, has a higher avg (6 runs more) and Hussey is also younger than Hodge. He even has a better bowling avg than Hodge.

Victorians were complaining when Clarke got the nod ahead of Hodge. Didn't hear many complaints from WA though, Hussey beats Clarke in all aspects of the game.

Face it, you Victorians are just very very Paranoid.

Take out Husseys county seasons and Hodge is miles ahead of Hussey :rolleyes: Everyone knows how ******** the county attacks are, thats where Husseys inflated average comes from. Back in Australia it is ******** compared to Hodge

Dog Town
8 Jul 2005, 20:03
Cant believe people are starting to hunt Marto again.He would be the first bastmen picked in our test team at the moment.

I love Hussey as a cricketer but he doesn't have the numbers at Pura Cup level to thrust him ahead of Hodge in the longer version of the game.I have my doubts about Hodge at test level mainly because he is very hot and cold.When he is in form he is as good as any batsmen in the world but he can very easily lose form and looks very vulnerable when he does and gets bowled to often.That doesn't mean he shouldn't have his turn at test level which he has earnt.

Hussey needs to just keep piling on the runs.They both deserve a shot ahead of Clarke at the moment who is a liability in the middle order at the moment.

the_mighty_pies_3733
9 Jul 2005, 08:53
Take out Husseys county seasons and Hodge is miles ahead of Hussey :rolleyes: Everyone knows how ******** the county attacks are, thats where Husseys inflated average comes from. Back in Australia it is ******** compared to Hodge

But doesnt Hodge play in England aswell? Shouldnt his average be just as high as Hussey's since he is facing the same ******** county attacks? Why isnt his average as high when the play in exacly the same competitions? Simple: HUSSEY > HODGE!

johnnyhoward
9 Jul 2005, 13:04
Hussey is obviously better than Hodge but you have to agree with Eddie that Hodge was first in line, but really Huss has showed his class in the one dayers and he should be in the Test side, simple as that. F**k off Clarke and bring in Hussey.

For statistical purposes, here are Hussey and Hodge's records for their Australian states:

Team Matches Inns Not Out Runs HS Ave 100 50 Ct
Vic 112 205 21 8134 264 44.20 24 35 60
W.A. 108 198 12 7870 223* 42.31 17 38 103


But this just strengthens the case for Hussey in the Ashes side: his adeptness to English wickets, considering his record for Northants compared to Hodge's county efforts for Leicester: :eek:

Northamptonshire 43 74 8 5194 331* 78.69 16 18 57
Leicestershire 31 51 2 3043 302* 62.10 10 7 18

Cameron_K
9 Jul 2005, 13:28
I wont be happy until North, Rogers & Hussey are all wearing the baggy green :D

Hell throw in Dorey aswell, Could do with a swing bowler in England :p

Farrand
9 Jul 2005, 18:31
Don't know if its been mentioned, but Ponting says that Husey won't be in the test squad for the ashes. The only chance he has got of making it into the squad is if one of the other batsmen gets injured.

So Husey will be returning to Durham.

Jaymin
9 Jul 2005, 23:41
Sorry for boring you Eddie...

I've had some time to think of my statement and have come to the conclusion.

M.Hussey >> B.Hodge.

I notice you have replied to Freo Big Fella's post?

sinepari
10 Jul 2005, 17:29
I notice you have replied to Freo Big Fella's post?

My thoughts exactly

eddiesmith
10 Jul 2005, 17:37
Bollocks, I'd just prefer not to select proven faliures at international level for the Test Team.

Plus the 260 came off a 3-day draw which Sourav admitted the Indians were using for Batting practice and weren't taking seriously.

Scorecard (http://aus.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2004-05/WI_IN_AUS/SCORECARDS/WI_AUS-A_08JAN2005.html)

3 against the most mediocre WI attack in years, what a champion!

Scorecard (http://aus.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2004-05/WI_IN_AUS/SCORECARDS/WI_AUS-A_09JAN2005.html)

14! My hero!

Scorecard (http://aus.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2004-05/WI_IN_AUS/SCORECARDS/WI_VIC_05JAN2005.html)

3!

I could go on, but I can't really be stuffed.


Actually, I'll add one more.

Scorecard (http://aus.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2004-05/PAK_IN_AUS/SCORECARDS/PAK_WA_09-12DEC2004.html)

and he didn't do it on a road either.

The Indians were using it as batting practice? And it was a road? Right, thats why Hodgey nearly outscored the entire superstar indian batting order?

As for those 2 Aus A games, what did the great Marcus North make? He did so well didnt he? And Brad Haddin? Isnt he supposed the next best keeper batsman in Australia?

Wow, 124 or something against Pakistan? What a superstar :rolleyes:

Why dont you accept that even the selectors know Hodge is a better test prospect than Hussey?

sinepari
10 Jul 2005, 17:44
As for those 2 Aus A games, what did the great Marcus North make? He did so well didnt he? And Brad Haddin? Isnt he supposed the next best keeper batsman in Australia?

Wow, 124 or something against Pakistan? What a superstar :rolleyes:



Now that is what most psychologists would label as DEFLECTION.

Nice work.

sinepari
10 Jul 2005, 17:45
I also notice you falied to respond to the remaining elements of his post and YOTC's post

eddiesmith
10 Jul 2005, 17:46
I also notice you falied to respond to the remaining elements of his post.

Which were?

tortured_soul
11 Jul 2005, 15:22
Take out Husseys county seasons and Hodge is miles ahead of Hussey :rolleyes: Everyone knows how ******** the county attacks are, thats where Husseys inflated average comes from. Back in Australia it is ******** compared to Hodge


I only want to say one thing here!
where is the ashes this season being played again, i thought it was in England, and where has hussey succeded as Eddie says, in England on English Pitches

fwiw i dont think neither huss or hodge deserves to play in the ashes but if haydos continues to lose form, i would rather have hussey opening then Hodge, just my personal opinion
For the record, the last great Victorian Batsmen was Dean Jones, now he was class!

Freo Big Fella
11 Jul 2005, 15:43
The Indians were using it as batting practice? And it was a road? Right, thats why Hodgey nearly outscored the entire superstar indian batting order?

As for those 2 Aus A games, what did the great Marcus North make? He did so well didnt he? And Brad Haddin? Isnt he supposed the next best keeper batsman in Australia?

Wow, 124 or something against Pakistan? What a superstar :rolleyes:



I go by the words of Tony Ware that Hookes and Ganguly both requested that he prepare a flat pitch.


Yep, he's scored more runs more consistently against international teams than Hodge has. Thanks for pointing that out.

But anyway; Cute, but this isn't about Northy or Haddin, it's about Brad Hodge's consistant faliures whenever he's faced an international standard attack, which, by your complete faliure to actually adress them, I assume you acknowledge and agree with. He is a hack of the highest order, a flat track bully and shouldn't play test cricket.


Why dont yoaccept that even the selectors know Hodge is a better test prospect than Hussey?


Ah, so the selectors are right about everything now aren't they? So, in your mind;

Gilchrist > Berry
Langer > Elliott
Hayden > Elliott
Clarke > Hodge
Martyn > Hodge
Katich > Hodge
Lee > Lewis
Hogg > White


and besides, selection decisions are never totally final on an Ashes Tour, a combination of Husseys excellent ODI form and superior county form (considering their Aus 1st class averages are too close to split) should see him includes as a late selection in a just world. Hussey is also more adaptable than Hodge (Can fill in as an opener should Haydens injury worsen, as well as playing in the middle and top order plus providing an adequate backup keeping option should Gilly succumb to an injury).

Cooldude
11 Jul 2005, 16:05
Clarke > Hodge


That's the only one I'd question, Hodge would do as good if not better than Clarke at least in Test cricket

Ljp86
11 Jul 2005, 18:35
Rest of Australia > Victoria

and

M. Hussey > Hodge

Rookie
11 Jul 2005, 21:13
The important thing is:-

M.Hussey > B.Hodge
Gold :)