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Out of this group of international spinners how do you rate them best to worst:
Shane Warne (AUS), Stewart McGill (AUS), Bradley Hogg (AUS), Harbhajan Singh (IND), Anil Kumble (IND), Muttiah Muralithuran (SL), Danish Kaneria (PAK), Daniel Vettori (NZ), Ashley Giles (ENG), Mohammad Rafiq (BAN), Nicky Boje (SA), Paul Wiseman (NZ), Chris Gayle (WI)
and any others you can think of.
Cooldude
3 Aug 2005, 21:56
Warne
Daylight
Murali
Kumble
Macgill
Singh
Kaneria
Vettori
Then a bunch of crap
Then Daylight
Daylight
Daylight
Daylight
Daylight
Daylight
Daylight
Giles
silky-smooth
3 Aug 2005, 21:57
You underrate Vettori there, Cooldude. I think he's a better bowler than you give him credit for.
And, watch this space. Three months later, Dan Cullen's name should feature near the top of that list.
Freo Big Fella
3 Aug 2005, 21:58
1.Warne
2.Kumble
3.Murali
4.Singh
5.Vettori/MacGill
6.Kaneria
7.Hogg
8.Boje
9.Gayle
10.Wiseman/Rafique
11.Giles
Cooldude
3 Aug 2005, 22:00
You underrate Vettori there, Cooldude. I think he's a better bowler than you give him credit for.
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I rate Vettori extremely highly, but I just couldn't get him ahead of most of those quality spinners, perhaps he'd be ahead of Kaniera though
He is a class class bowler still
1. Shane Warne
2. Muttiah Muralithuran
3. Anil Kumble
4. Harbhajan Singh
5. Stewart McGill
6. Daniel Vettori
7. Danish Kaneria
8. Bradley Hogg
9. Ashley Giles
10. Nicky Boje
11. Paul Wiseman
12. Chris Gayle
13. Mohammad Rafiq
stmookeyj
3 Aug 2005, 22:13
1. Warney
2. Murali
3. Kumble
4. Danish
5. Vettori
6. MacGoo
7. Boje
8. Rafique
9. Harbhajan
10. Gayle
11. Hogg
12. Wiseman
13. Giles
1. Shane Warne
2. Muttiah Muralithuran
3. Anil Kumble
4. Harbhajan Singh
5. Stewart McGill
6. Daniel Vettori
7. Danish Kaneria
8. Bradley Hogg
9. Ashley Giles
10. Nicky Boje
11. Paul Wiseman
12. Chris Gayle
13. Mohammad Rafiq
Agree with this except swap Gayle with Giles.
Ricketts
3 Aug 2005, 22:41
1. warne
2. vettori
3. kaneria
4. kumble
5. macgill
6. hogg
7. wiseman
8. gayle
9. rafiq
10. boje
11. giles
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12. murali
13. singh
eddiesmith
3 Aug 2005, 23:02
Out of this group of international spinners how do you rate them best to worst:
Shane Warne (AUS), Stewart McGill (AUS), Bradley Hogg (AUS), Harbhajan Singh (IND), Anil Kumble (IND), Muttiah Muralithuran (SL), Danish Kaneria (PAK), Daniel Vettori (NZ), Ashley Giles (ENG), Mohammad Rafiq (BAN), Nicky Boje (SA), Paul Wiseman (NZ), Chris Gayle (WI)
and any others you can think of.
Warne
Daylight
Daylight
Daylight
Daylight
Daylight
Daylight
Daylight
Daylight
Daylight
Murali
Vettori
Kumble
Singh
Boje
Hogg
Wiseman
Giles
Kaneria
Rafiq
Gayle
Daylight
Daylight
Daylight
Daylight
Daylight
Daylight
Daylight
Daylight
Daylight
MacGill
silky-smooth
3 Aug 2005, 23:05
I actually agree with Eddie there. However, I'd swap MacGill for Wiseman, and close the 'daylight' gap between Wiseman and Gayle a little.
Warne
Murali
Vettori
Kumble
MacGill
Harbhajan
Wiseman
Danish
Rafique
Herath
Hogg
Gayle
Enamul
Jayasuriya
Chandana
Boje
Matsikenyeri
Smith
Clarke
Vaughan
Sarwan
Chanderpaul
Cremer
Ontong
Giles
Minotaur
4 Aug 2005, 10:46
Warne
Murali
Vettori
Kumble
MacGill
Harbhajan
Wiseman
Danish
Rafique
Herath
Hogg
Gayle
Enamul
Jayasuriya
Chandana
Boje
Matsikenyeri
Smith
Clarke
Vaughan
Sarwan
Chanderpaul
Cremer
Ontong
Giles
Have people had a look at Vettori's record - its pretty ordinary!
dan warna
4 Aug 2005, 10:59
Shane Warne (AUS),
Muttiah Muralithuran (SL),
Anil Kumble (IND), (at home, travels like a souffle)
Stewart McGill (AUS),
Harbhajan Singh (IND),
Daniel Vettori (NZ),
Danish Kaneria (PAK), A great Dane?)
Bradley Hogg (AUS), (specialist ODI spinner)
Mohammad Rafiq (BAN),
Chris Gayle (WI)
Nicky Boje (SA),
Paul Wiseman (NZ),
Spacko the dyslexic monkey trained to play cricket
Gimpy the one legged blind 80 year old epileptic with parkinsons
Ashley Giles (ENG),
I’m surprised so many people have Boje above anybody. Although he does have a big repertoire including the top spinner, arm ball and the one that doesn’t turn.
Homer Jnr
4 Aug 2005, 11:21
Hauritz >> Giles
mrcracker
4 Aug 2005, 11:51
Warne
Murali
Kumble
McGill
Harbajhan
Vettori
Giles
Kaneria
Rafique
Boje
Banks
Price
Herath
Kartik
Wiseman
In the second group of minnow countries or fringe test players I think Price has been exiled by Zimbabwe selectors after showing promise. Rafique and Boje stand out as the ones capable of winning a test match on a spinning pitch but unlikely to do much on normal pitches.
Not sure why people don't like McGill but the last time he played a full year of test cricket he was the second highest wicket taker in the world (a couple wickets behind Ntini in the year Warne was banned). Don't rate Kaneria that highly ... yet. Not enough match winning performances. Got a couple 5 fors against Australia after a lot of overs. In county cricket this year he got a 6 for in his first match and in his second match set a record for the most overs bowled without a wicket.
Blues_Man
4 Aug 2005, 12:14
1. Shane Warne
2. Muttiah Muralithuran
a big gap
3. Anil Kumble
4. Harbhajan Singh
5. Daniel Vettori
6. Stewart McGill
7. Danish Kaneria
8. Bradley Hogg
9. Ashley Giles
10. Nicky Boje
11. Paul Wiseman
12. Chris Gayle
13. Mohammad Rafiq
By average..
Hauritz..............5 @ 20.60 :D
Murali.............549 @ 22.47
Warne............589 @ 25.40
Harbajhan.......199 @ 28.17
Kumble...........461 @ 28.23
McGill.............160 @ 28.81
Kaneria...........132 @ 30.10
Kartik..............24 @ 34.16
Vettori............196 @ 35.65
Price...............69 @ 35.86
Rafique............68 @ 36.07
Boje................88 @ 37.48
Giles...............127 @ 37.59
Herath............28 @ 39.60
Wiseman.........61 @ 47.59
Banks.............28 @ 48.82
Cooldude
4 Aug 2005, 13:07
I’m surprised so many people have Boje above anybody. Although he does have a big repertoire including the top spinner, arm ball and the one that doesn’t turn.
That's two more deliveries than Giles :D
manmountain
4 Aug 2005, 13:18
Shane Warne
Anil Kumble
Harbhajan Singh
Stewart McGill
Daniel Vettori
Then daylight
Then night-time
Then some more daylight
Then my Mum
Then an inanimate carbon rod
Then more daylight
Then the spaz brigade of Giles, Hauritz and Hogg...
(Murali is excluded because IMHO he belongs in a thread about baseball)
That's two more deliveries than Giles :D
Thats not true.
Giles has the arm ball, the one that doesnt turn and the four ball. ;)
Cooldude
4 Aug 2005, 14:34
And the four ball's his stock ball ;)
He bowls the arm ball as often as Josh Thurgood of Hawthorn getting lucky: Which is almost never
Ricketts
4 Aug 2005, 15:06
Warne
Murali
Vettori
Kumble
MacGill
Harbhajan
Wiseman
Danish
Rafique
Herath
Hogg
Gayle
Enamul
Jayasuriya
Chandana
Boje
Matsikenyeri
Smith
Clarke
Vaughan
Sarwan
Chanderpaul
Cremer
Ontong
Giles
You forgot Katich. :)
Ricketts
4 Aug 2005, 15:07
Have people had a look at Vettori's record - its pretty ordinary!
Vettori's record doesn't show how good he actually is.
Ray Nolan
4 Aug 2005, 15:08
M. Muralitharan
<daylight>
<still daylight, come back next week and we might get to no. 2>
dan warna
4 Aug 2005, 15:14
did everyone remember to include the king of spain?