Wimmera Football League

[BETON5]

Quick retirement Beton.

I was actually invited back by the moderator and mobenfurer freddie :p kruger

[Grimmett]

Good to hear.

WBFL thread suggests that the Mt Gambier Cup being held on Friday before the interleague fixture also affected the quality of their side as a few chose getting on the turps ahead of a game of footy. Silly buggers, could have just got pie-eyed on the way back from Horsham.

[bigun]

I was actually invited back by the moderator and mobenfurer freddie :p kruger
No 5 is alive;)

[RAZZAMATAZZ]

No 5 is alive;)

David Law has just brought him back off the bench for another stint up forward,

[freddiefenster]

Can anyone stop the Melons from Horsham from winning 5 in a row?

[Tige]

Just wondering thoughts on where the wimmera football league stacks up against other country victorian leagues??

[Eddies Boy]

Can anyone stop the Melons from Horsham from winning 5 in a row?Only seen a few games this year but l think that United would have a fairly good show if they have there full list on the ground. Find someone who can keep Johns quiet and they will have to work out a different way threw the big sticks Mibus could be the man. Stawell on there day aswell l think. After seeing Tuckey a couple of weeks back l have to eat my words, if he fires he will make any opponent look secon rate, also Stawell have a good balance runners and hard nuts so anything could happen. Who do we think will take out the dreaded SPOON.

[roaring tiger]

Just wondering thoughts on where the wimmera football league stacks up against other country victorian leagues??

1.Ovens and Murray
2.Goulburn Valley
3.Mornington Pen
4.Hampden
5.Bendigo
6.Murray
7.West Gippsland
8.Centreal Murray
9.Wimmera
10.Western Border
11.Sunryaisa
12.North Centrel.

Very hard to compare but O & M and the GV by far are the best leagues. Most clubs in each of these leagues would have at least 1 ex AFl player and plenty with VFL experience.

[Grimmett]

1.Ovens and Murray
2.Goulburn Valley
3.Mornington Pen
4.Hampden
5.Bendigo
6.Murray
7.West Gippsland
8.Centreal Murray
9.Wimmera
10.Western Border
11.Sunryaisa
12.North Centrel.

Very hard to compare but O & M and the GV by far are the best leagues. Most clubs in each of these leagues would have at least 1 ex AFl player and plenty with VFL experience.

You'll need to put Ballarat FL and Geelong FL somewhere in your top five.

[Tige]

Only seen a few games this year but l think that United would have a fairly good show if they have there full list on the ground. Find someone who can keep Johns quiet and they will have to work out a different way threw the big sticks Mibus could be the man. Stawell on there day aswell l think. After seeing Tuckey a couple of weeks back l have to eat my words, if he fires he will make any opponent look secon rate, also Stawell have a good balance runners and hard nuts so anything could happen. Who do we think will take out the dreaded SPOON.

It would have to be the saints one would think..

[roaring tiger]

You'll need to put Ballarat FL and Geelong FL somewhere in your top five.

Yep forgot about them Grimmett. Geelong 3 and Ballarat 4

[BETON5]

Good to hear.

WBFL thread suggests that the Mt Gambier Cup being held on Friday before the interleague fixture also affected the quality of their side as a few chose getting on the turps ahead of a game of footy. Silly buggers, could have just got pie-eyed on the way back from Horsham.

Thats why the WIMMERA won by 4o pts otherwise i think WESTERN BORDER would have got up just through sheer class.

[BETON5]

David Law has just brought him back off the bench for another stint up forward,

I THINK THATS WHY LAW WENT TO TASSIE CAUSE HE DROPPED HIS KIDS COME FINALS TIME FOR 3 OR 4 BLOW INS BUT THEY PAID THE PRICE FOR THAT IN THE SEMI:p
HENCE THE PLAYER SHORTAGE 2007

[BETON5]

1.Ovens and Murray
2.Goulburn Valley
3.Mornington Pen
4.Hampden
5.Bendigo
6.Murray
7.West Gippsland
8.Centreal Murray
9.Wimmera
10.Western Border
11.Sunryaisa
12.North Centrel.

Very hard to compare but O & M and the GV by far are the best leagues. Most clubs in each of these leagues would have at least 1 ex AFl player and plenty with VFL experience.
PRETTY GOOD LIST THERE TIGERR HOWEVER I DO THINK WESTERN BORDER SHOULD BE AROUND 8TH THATS WITH BALLARAT AND GEELONG ADDED.

THE WIMMERA HAS DROPPED OFF BIG TIME AND IS NOT THAT STRONG IE,HORSHAM WHO HAVE WON THE PAST 4 GF WOULD FINISH BOTTOM 3 IN THE TOP 6 0R 7 COUNTRY LEAGUES OUTSIDE METRO WHICH ISNT THAT FLASH CONSIDERING THAT WIMMERA IS CLASSED AS A MAJOR LEAGUE.I HOPE I HAVENT UPSET TO MANY PEOPLE BUT THATS A FACT...
THE WIMMERA DO THOUGH DESERVE TO BE RATED HIGHER THAT WESTERN BORDER DUE TO LAST WEEKS RESULTS....

[BETON5]

It would have to be the saints one would think..
100% AGREE TIGER VERY HARD TO SEE THEM WINNING 1 MEEZLY GAME HAVING GOING DOWN TO A SECOND RATE WARRACK EAGLES OUTFIT LAST WEEK BY 120PTS PLUS.
WHAT A JOKE OAKEY PLAYING REP FOOTY MUST BE RELATED TO ONE OF THE SELECTORS.....

[Tige]

100% AGREE TIGER VERY HARD TO SEE THEM WINNING 1 MEEZLY GAME HAVEING GOING DOWN TO A SECOND RATE WARRACK EAGLES OUTFIT LAST WEEK BY 120PTS PLUS.
WHAT A JOKE OAKEY PLAYING REP FOOTY MUST BE RELATED TO ONE OF THE SELECTORS.....

Beton did you forget about the wimmera players that were unavailble... Tuckey, Mcfarlane, Everitt, WIlson, Mckinnon, Kelm, Miller... They are big names!

I believe being chosen for an interleague team dosnt always mean you are the best player in the league. Oaks held his own on saturday and kicked a great goal when we needed one. Having played alongside him saturday It was amazing that a player of his age could play so well in a high intensity game at his age.

[Eddies Boy]

I AGREE TUCKEY,MCFARLANE,MILLER AND KELM R BIG NAMES AND ARE IN THE BEST 22 IN THE LEAGUE HOWEVER THE REP SIDES SHOULD BE THE BEST 22 IN THE LEAGUE AND THE WIMMERA WERE MISSISNG TUCKEY,MCFARLANE AND MILLER.AS FAR AS OAKEY GOES MUST BE POLITICS OR SOMETHING THAT GETS THESE 2ND RATE PLAYERS IN REP GAMES....... Not going to say to much but beton it was better when you were retired from this forum. At times you sound like you no a bit about the game then all of a sudden dribble comes out your mouth. GO BACK IN TO RETIREMENT.

[BETON5]

Not going to say to much but beton it was better when you were retired from this forum. At times you sound like you no a bit about the game then all of a sudden dribble comes out your mouth. GO BACK IN TO RETIREMENT.

your probalbly right eddies boys i do carry on abit .I should retire from this forum however i like stiring tamps like you up:p

[Onelastbounce]

Beton did you forget about the wimmera players that were unavailble... Tuckey, Mcfarlane, Everitt, WIlson, Mckinnon, Kelm, Miller... They are big names!

I believe being chosen for an interleague team dosnt always mean you are the best player in the league. Oaks held his own on saturday and kicked a great goal when we needed one. Having played alongside him saturday It was amazing that a player of his age could play so well in a high intensity game at his age.

I find it absolutely frustrating that people don't put up their hand to play rep footy. You have people that are injured ( and you can't do much about that, except feeling sorry for them to be missing out ), then you have people who are actually unavailable and then you have week hearted pricks that shit me to tears like McFarlane, Everitt, Wilson, McKinnon (all from Dimmy, surprise surprise) and Miller who dont play simply cause they dont get paid. :thumbsd: Week as piss! And as for people picking on oaks, Not only did he make his debut at 36 he held his own and played an important part in the win. Good contributer and there should b more people like him putting there hand up no matter what age!!!:thumbsu:

[BETON5]

I find it absolutely frustrating that people don't put up their hand to play rep footy. You have people that are injured ( and you can't do much about that, except feeling sorry for them to be missing out ), then you have people who are actually unavailable and then you have week hearted pricks that shit me to tears like McFarlane, Everitt, Wilson, McKinnon (all from Dimmy, surprise surprise) and Miller who dont play simply cause they dont get paid. :thumbsd: Week as piss! And as for people picking on oaks, Not only did he make his debut at 36 he held his own and played an important part in the win. Good contributer and there should b more people like him putting there hand up no matter what age!!!:thumbsu:
Good point there Mr ? It is pretty weak to have those players unavailable.Mcfarlane and Miller are gun players but everitt,wilson,mckinnon would struggle to get a game in wimmeras best 22.I supose i was being a bit harsh on oakey but surely you could play a kid at rep level instead of debuting an old fart at 36 but if these so called big names make themselves U/A then you have to give the likes of oakey etc a game.
On a brighter note how have you been performing ONELASTBOUNCE?

[Tige]

Horsham kicked a deflated dimboolas arse.. Any one else heard reports that there is trouble in the camp there??

[roaring tiger]

Horsham kicked a deflated dimboolas arse.. Any one else heard reports that there is trouble in the camp there??

I was talking to a former Dimmy player from a couple of years ago on the weekend Tige and he told me that they are out of money and are going to struggle for the rest of the year. Going on there last couple of games they may even struggle to make the finals.

Horsham, Untied, Stawell, Minyip and Nhill to be the 5 at the end of the year.

As for Paul Oakley i think he has probably been warracks most consitant player of the last 5 years and deserved to get a game in interleague a couple of weeks back.

[Grimmett]

I was talking to a former Dimmy player from a couple of years ago on the weekend Tige and he told me that they are out of money....

Tragic

[Countryboy80]

Tragic
it may not only be the dimmi football club struggling for money because word on the street is that the young dimmi bloke who king hit jay tucker in a horsham nightclub is going too have to foot the 20k bill for his dentist appointments...

[McCleanMagic]

Ararat beat Warrack on saturday did warrack have a few out or did ararat just out play them? Good to see them get a win under their belt?

[FREDDIE13]

Ararat beat Warrack on saturday did warrack have a few out or did ararat just out play them? Good to see them get a win under their belt?
Ararat just outplayed them... Geez they've got some good kids the moons... young Aidan Bell kicked a lazy 7 on debut.. Three out of there best six players were under 18's..

[Footyz Life]

Horsham kicked a deflated dimboolas arse.. Any one else heard reports that there is trouble in the camp there??
Heard Sat. the dimmy boys had 8 at trainin tues nite and 15 on thurs they had to get the u/17`s to stay out so they could do a descent drill. The cheque book must near empty surely, there would be one less in it after brett goodes played for them on sat.

[Grimmett]

Heard Sat. the dimmy boys had 8 at trainin tues nite and 15 on thurs they had to get the u/17`s to stay out so they could do a descent drill. The cheque book must near empty surely, there would be one less in it after brett goodes played for them on sat.

Brett Goodes is a registered Dimboola player who wouldn't be getting a cent IMO. He is on the North Ballarat Roosters list and was available for Dim due to the VFL having a weekend off for the State game.

[Tige]

According to my sources the problems at dimboola may not be just financial issues either...

[merv46]

According to my sources the problems at dimboola may not be just financial issues either...

that is your second post suggesting something is up in the dim camp without elaborating....so, either:

a) have the balls to say what 'your source' says the issue is; or

b) make like a shepherd

[Tige]

that is your second post suggesting something is up in the dim camp without elaborating....so, either:

a) have the balls to say what 'your source' says the issue is; or

b) make like a shepherd

All I mean is I think the community in general is getting sick and tired of the club spending thousands of dollars on players that are shipped in for the footy season. Most of the money they are getting paid is probably not even being put back in the town as they do not even live there..:thumbsd: Not good! Even noticed there supporter base has decrased dramatically this year.

[Footyz Life]

Brett Goodes is a registered Dimboola player who wouldn't be getting a cent IMO. He is on the North Ballarat Roosters list and was available for Dim due to the VFL having a weekend off for the State game.
Funny how he only registered on fri. i think the wfl website says and i know that he spoke to an opposition club b4 the start of the season and said he gets $800 p/week at nth ballarat and the club told him he would be better off staying there. I also ask the question why hasn`t he played for them b4 seeing that they are his HOME club and not sounding out the opposition pre-season. I would have thought he would have been paid an incentive to come home for one game. For the record this isn`t havin a go at him as he is a good fella.

[Grimmett]

Funny how he only registered on fri. i think the wfl website says and i know that he spoke to an opposition club b4 the start of the season and said he gets $800 p/week at nth ballarat and the club told him he would be better off staying there. I also ask the question why hasn`t he played for them b4 seeing that they are his HOME club and not sounding out the opposition pre-season. I would have thought he would have been paid an incentive to come home for one game. For the record this isn`t havin a go at him as he is a good fella.

I think you'll find he has been injured and that may have been his first game for the year. Dimboola is his home club through the VFL interchange system but realistically his home club is North Ballarat and he will play there when fit and available.

[Tige]

Can anyone given me an insight into mick Fratin?? The way he plays, foot he kicks marking capabilities etc... Thanks!

[freddiefenster]

Mick Fratin is one of the most talented footballers I've seen. Thumping right foot kick, strong overhead mark and has plenty of confidence.

Changing tack, with the signings noted in the Mail-Times, can we hope to see United mount a serious challenge to Horsham's dominance? Always the better blokes at United out of the 3 Horsham clubs I felt, so good luck to em.

[Grimmett]

Can anyone given me an insight into mick Fratin?? The way he plays, foot he kicks marking capabilities etc... Thanks!

Didn't you play interleague with him?

[Tige]

Mick Fratin is one of the most talented footballers I've seen. Thumping right foot kick, strong overhead mark and has plenty of confidence.

Changing tack, with the signings noted in the Mail-Times, can we hope to see United mount a serious challenge to Horsham's dominance? Always the better blokes at United out of the 3 Horsham clubs I felt, so good luck to em.

Thanks freddie. Who are these signings?

[roaring tiger]

Thanks freddie. Who are these signings?


30 May 2007View all news (http://wimmera.yourguide.com.au/display.asp?class=sport) | Send to a friend (http://wimmera.yourguide.com.au/email_friend.asp?story_id=590266) | Print (http://wimmera.yourguide.com.au/printerFriendlyPage.asp?story_id=590266) Diggers boost their ranks
By MEGAN HUSTWAITE
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HORSHAM United has landed two major signings five rounds into the Wimmera Football League season.
Rover Andrew Carter, 26, has returned to the Wimmera after a stint in Mackay and will play for the Diggers this season.
Carter's friend Jake Kearney, who comes with state league experience, has also joined the club. United has the bye this weekend but the pair will play in a match against Stawell at Central Park on Saturday.
Carter, an in-and-under rover with outstanding skills, joined the Diggers from Horsham in 2005.
Kearney, 25, is a strongly-built centre half forward who has played with SANFL clubs South Adelaide and Sturt. He also played for the North Ballarat Rebels in the TAC Cup under- 18 competition.
Kearney, like Carter, is originally from Edenhope.
The coup will boost United's chances in a premiership race where Stawell, Dimboola and the Diggers loom as genuine premiership threats to competition powerhouse Horsham.
United coach Brian Cassidy described the news as exciting for the club and said the signings had provided his players with a boost.
"I'm not going to say something stupid like we'll win the flag. We're aiming to win enough games to finish in the top three," he said.
"That would then give us a realistic chance.
"This will give our guys confidence that we've got good players coming in. We'll be a better team for it."
He added that Carter and Kearney would fill deficiencies the side had experienced in opening-round matches.
"We've probably been lacking that on-baller and centre half forward so far," he said. "Carts is hard at the ball and a good finisher. When he is fit there isn't a better rover going around.
"From watching Jake at training he's very hard at the ball, kicks both feet and handballs with both hands.
"We know what impact Carts will have, but if Jake can hold down centre half forward we'll be a very good side.
"We'll be hard to beat."
Carter told the Mail-Times that he was delighted to return to the Diggers.
"We've trained a couple of nights now and it's great to be back with the boys," he said.
"We're going to be a pretty good side this year. "We've got a very good playing group, good young kids coming through and key position players. "Jake and I can't wait to get out there and play."

[roaring tiger]

Travis Lannin to be a good match up for Fratin tige i reckon.

[Tige]

Travis Lannin to be a good match up for Fratin tige i reckon.

Thanks roaring tiger.

Yep Lal has been doing well this year and prooved himself when he played on johnsy a few weeks back, especially in one on one contests. Thought you may also be interested to know that Brad Meyer has stepped up and given nhill another avenue to goal, sneaking three last week from a flank.

[roaring tiger]

Thanks roaring tiger.

Yep Lal has been doing well this year and prooved himself when he played on johnsy a few weeks back, especially in one on one contests. Thought you may also be interested to know that Brad Meyer has stepped up and given nhill another avenue to goal, sneaking three last week from a flank.

Yeah i have been watchings the scores and seen Meyersy kicking a few goals. He has the ability its just a matter of him getting his attitude sorted which by the looks of it he has. Davidson has got things going in the right direction which Nhill haven't had in many years. I would say Nhill had a better list last year but he is getting more out of blokes that he has this year. Maybe they will sneak into the finals this year and spend up next year with a couple of recruits to challenge for there first flag since 81?

[Andyt30]

Warrack Eagles playes their first home Game at Anzac Park for the Season playing Minyip-Murtoa. Eagles chance to win in the reserves which could send them up to 2nd spot having a very good Percentage,. The Eagles should beable to win all if they want to Eagles should have a fairly comfortable win .

Dimboola to win by 90+ against Horsham Saints
Nhill v Ararat should be a close game Nhill by 10pts
stawell v United tough one as well. diggers by 20 pts

a few tough games

[Swimming_Turtle]

It sounds like all you guys have a very good idea of whats going on in the league and in the area. I used to play in the Wimmera, but have since left the area to work overseas. I like to look at Big Footy to see how blokes are going and teams. To me it seems that the league has really dropped off since about 2001. Back then when the Eagles beat Aarat, it seemed like the standard and crowds were first class. What seems to be the problem if any. Is it too many good young players get taken away or teams not good enough to recruit.

Would like some serious answers if there are any out there.

[Tige]

Warrack Eagles playes their first home Game at Anzac Park for the Season playing Minyip-Murtoa. Eagles chance to win in the reserves which could send them up to 2nd spot having a very good Percentage,. The Eagles should beable to win all if they want to Eagles should have a fairly comfortable win .

Dimboola to win by 90+ against Horsham Saints
Nhill v Ararat should be a close game Nhill by 10pts
stawell v United tough one as well. diggers by 20 pts

a few tough games

My predictions for this week..
Dimboola over saints- they need a big win to restore there confidence.
Nhill should account for ararat by 30+ pts
United and Stawell will be a corker, ill say the diggers to get over the line
Minyip murtoa will be to good for the eagles.

[Flick Pass]

Probably nearly 10 kids play Rebels, district clubs pay stupid amounts for players especially Edenhope Apsley if the players are OK then you don't mind, they pay blokes they have never seen or heard of $200 plus a game. With Tuckey,Fratin,Miller,Johns,Carr,Kosch,Adam Carter still some good players and young blokes like Adlington from Horsham coming along. Crowds have dropped off a bit need the other teams to get closer to Horshams standard as people won't want to watch their team get beaten by 15 goals. Hopefully Stawell,United,Dimmy and others can put some pressure on them.

[BETON5]

Probably nearly 10 kids play Rebels, district clubs pay stupid amounts for players especially Edenhope Apsley if the players are OK then you don't mind, they pay blokes they have never seen or heard of $200 plus a game. With Tuckey,Fratin,Miller,Johns,Carr,Kosch,Adam Carter still some good players and young blokes like Adlington from Horsham coming along. Crowds have dropped off a bit need the other teams to get closer to Horshams standard as people won't want to watch their team get beaten by 15 goals. Hopefully Stawell,United,Dimmy and others can put some pressure on them.

HERE IS YOUR TOP 3 COME SEPTEMBER AND ANY SIDE CAN WIN IT,EXPECT HORSHAM TO COUGH UP A GAME OR 2 IN THE SECOND HALF OF THE SEASON.

HORSHAM
STAWELL
HORSHAM UNITED

THE REST WILL MAKE UP NUMBERS SO LETS HOPE UNITED OR THOSE GAY BAR LOITERERS FROM STAWELL CAN WIN THE FLAG.

[roaring tiger]

HERE IS YOUR TOP 3 COME SEPTEMBER AND ANY SIDE CAN WIN IT,EXPECT HORSHAM TO COUGH UP A GAME OR 2 IN THE SECOND HALF OF THE SEASON.

HORSHAM
STAWELL
HORSHAM UNITED

THE REST WILL MAKE UP NUMBERS SO LETS HOPE UNITED OR THOSE GAY BAR LOITERERS FROM STAWELL CAN WIN THE FLAG.

The key to Horsham is Johns if he gets injured they will be in a bit of trouble. The same with Stawell they will need tuckey not to get injured. Untied even though they lost on the weekend seem to have a very even team and don't rely on to many gun Players. Interesting to see Brad miller struggling to kick the big bag of goals like a couple of years ago. I would expect untied to choke come finals time though.

The Nhill boys would be very happy at the moment sitting in 2nd spot a game clear. If they win this week against MM they should play finals for the first time since 2002.

[The Big W]

The way nhill played against dimboola shows that they could more than make up numbers at finals time. Dimboola was close to full strength and nhill outplayed them. If players like lannin, graham and merrett stand up in finals and a dodds watson or phillips can kick a score they could be a surprise packet.

Wondering if anyone has any news on why Jackson and Fratin didn't make the trip to nhill??? Would've been a better test for the team although they accounted for them fairly easily without playing near their best.

[MightyRoar]

The way nhill played against dimboola shows that they could more than make up numbers at finals time. Dimboola was close to full strength and nhill outplayed them. If players like lannin, graham and merrett stand up in finals and a dodds watson or phillips can kick a score they could be a surprise packet.

Wondering if anyone has any news on why Jackson and Fratin didn't make the trip to nhill??? Would've been a better test for the team although they accounted for them fairly easily without playing near their best.

Jacko made the trip to Nhill and played, Frato didn't as he was carrying an injury of some sought, however did also make the trip!!

[Tige]

The way nhill played against dimboola shows that they could more than make up numbers at finals time. Dimboola was close to full strength and nhill outplayed them. If players like lannin, graham and merrett stand up in finals and a dodds watson or phillips can kick a score they could be a surprise packet.

Wondering if anyone has any news on why Jackson and Fratin didn't make the trip to nhill??? Would've been a better test for the team although they accounted for them fairly easily without playing near their best.

Jackson did play against nhill! Although he wasnt really influential playing as a forward flanker for most of the day, probably shouldnt hav been playing due to a groin injury. As for Fratin, I beleive he is still getting over the injury which put a question mark over him for Interleague, from what I can gather it is some type of chest injury. Good to see him there to support the boys on saturday tho.

[The Big W]

Probably nearly 10 kids play Rebels, district clubs pay stupid amounts for players especially Edenhope Apsley if the players are OK then you don't mind, they pay blokes they have never seen or heard of $200 plus a game. With Tuckey,Fratin,Miller,Johns,Carr,Kosch,Adam Carter still some good players and young blokes like Adlington from Horsham coming along. Crowds have dropped off a bit need the other teams to get closer to Horshams standard as people won't want to watch their team get beaten by 15 goals. Hopefully Stawell,United,Dimmy and others can put some pressure on them.

Where is all the money coming from for the district league clubs??? Most are tiny towns that gets most of their players from horsham so i can't understand why people would pour money into a sub-standard league because the wimmera league is suffering for it. Players like butsch, Burdett, and the like show that playing for money is the only reason they play football, because if players like that come back to wimmera they will still be paid decently and it will lift the wimmera league back to a similar status of around 2000 when the eagles and rats were very strong and the competition was a lot more even.

[The Big W]

Jus wondering how minyi murtoa are travelling and what nhill's chances are on the weekend. Believe lannin can keep midgley under 5. Who would go with kosch and what sort of player is he?? In-and-under or outsider, stocky or slight, fast/slow, height,etc. Because if nhill can restrict the amount of times these two touch the ball i believe the game will be a walk in the park. Keeping kosch quiet sounds as though it will still be a huge headache and should make for a great contest. Back the tiges in due to the team performances rather than relying on a few guns like min/mur

[roaring tiger]

Jus wondering how minyi murtoa are travelling and what nhill's chances are on the weekend. Believe lannin can keep midgley under 5. Who would go with kosch and what sort of player is he?? In-and-under or outsider, stocky or slight, fast/slow, height,etc. Because if nhill can restrict the amount of times these two touch the ball i believe the game will be a walk in the park. Keeping kosch quiet sounds as though it will still be a huge headache and should make for a great contest. Back the tiges in due to the team performances rather than relying on a few guns like min/mur

You would expect to see A Beer to go with Kosch but whether beery has the smarts to go with Kosch will be the interesting thing. You would still expect Kosch to get his 25 touches as he is a class player with VFL experience.

What are people's thoughts on the standard of the WFL league? I think it has dropped a fair bit compared to a few years ago. The top 6-8 players in most teams are still the same but i think the depth in most sides as dropped right off.

[Tige]

Jus wondering how minyi murtoa are travelling and what nhill's chances are on the weekend. Believe lannin can keep midgley under 5. Who would go with kosch and what sort of player is he?? In-and-under or outsider, stocky or slight, fast/slow, height,etc. Because if nhill can restrict the amount of times these two touch the ball i believe the game will be a walk in the park. Keeping kosch quiet sounds as though it will still be a huge headache and should make for a great contest. Back the tiges in due to the team performances rather than relying on a few guns like min/mur

Kosch is a fantastic player and would have one of the best motors in the league he can just run all day. Although he is not that tall maybe 5 foot 9 or ten he is built fairly well and can hold himself in contests. He is a nice left foot kick.. I agree if nhill can keep kosch to 20 possesions and midgley to 4 goals the tigers will win. The burras are very one dimensional and leave a lot of room for midgley.

[The Big W]

Kosch is a fantastic player and would have one of the best motors in the league he can just run all day. Although he is not that tall maybe 5 foot 9 or ten he is built fairly well and can hold himself in contests. He is a nice left foot kick.. I agree if nhill can keep kosch to 20 possesions and midgley to 4 goals the tigers will win. The burras are very one dimensional and leave a lot of room for midgley.

Surely a graham, fritsch or even cole could roll off their lesser players and cover the space infront of midgley. Horsham do the same for johns and lannin was solid against him, and johns is a better player so its a good match up to see where lannin is at. Beer has been good this year but discipline costs the team. Needs to curb his rage to effect especially since named as captain. Beer is one of nhills playmakers though so don't know if they can afford to let him go. Maybe even batson as a potential match up. News out of the club is he has a huge motor but lacks a bit of experience so mayb telling him to follow kosch all day would be a good experience for him if he doesn't fall for kosch's tricks. Any news on why watson didn't play last week and on richard reids whereabouts?

[The Big W]

You would expect to see A Beer to go with Kosch but whether beery has the smarts to go with Kosch will be the interesting thing. You would still expect Kosch to get his 25 touches as he is a class player with VFL experience.

What are people's thoughts on the standard of the WFL league? I think it has dropped a fair bit compared to a few years ago. The top 6-8 players in most teams are still the same but i think the depth in most sides as dropped right off.

Standard has dropped dramatically since around 2002. Ararat and warrack went from powerhouses to whipping boys in the space of a few seasons. A horsham side that struggled to beat those two went onto to become untouchable without any personal changes. The most dissapointing thing is that the horsham side that first won with guy smith, dumensy, skurrie and others would beat todays horsham side by over 100 points in my opinion. Too many lesser leagues have clubs with money to drag good players out of big leagues like the wimmera, as well as hard to entice people to the area with small money and average jobs. If horsham stops being the powerhouse and clubs can sign a few stars each it will attract better players to join the league. Many players are coming to the league to play for horsham to play in a premiership then leaving. ie. Tim Pickett, Lachlan Woodward, Tom Crabtree, etc. If other teams become stronger it might attract the likes of skurrie and dumensy back and will in turn lead to the league becoming a powerhouse again. Id this fair??

[MightyRoar]

Where is all the money coming from for the district league clubs??? Most are tiny towns that gets most of their players from horsham so i can't understand why people would pour money into a sub-standard league because the wimmera league is suffering for it. Players like butsch, Burdett, and the like show that playing for money is the only reason they play football, because if players like that come back to wimmera they will still be paid decently and it will lift the wimmera league back to a similar status of around 2000 when the eagles and rats were very strong and the competition was a lot more even.

Big W, who really gives a rats if the Wimmera League is suffering from district leagues feeding off of it and the fact that it may not be at its peak as it was several years ago. Yes I know it is the major league around this area but each league and every individual club has to look after themselves, they aint gunna say come footy season, "Gee we better not chase that player as he plays in the Wimmera League and they will not be as strong if the likes of those guys switch leagues."

You pointed out 2 players in particular and that money is the only reason them and the likes play football. What a load of rubbish, I dont personally know these 2 guys but in their defence and others that switch from the Wimmera League to the Horsham District, money wouldn't just be the driving force. There is a thing called "Mates" and that is what the majority of players play for, to play along side there mates. If that means switching over to a lower league then good on em!! Then there are obviously some that do just play for money, if thats the case then so be it. If people are good enough to get paid a large portion of money and clubs whether being in a major league or just a district league are prepared to fork it out then so be it. As I have posted previously before, football is becoming a business and that is the reality of it nowadays. Loyalty in the game has gone somewhat now and it is all about money, whether it be clubs trying to earn a quid to survive or a player trying to earn a living. But dont loose site of the fact Big W that in the end playing football is all about playing with your mates because your football years are probably the best years of your life and whether it be in a major league or what you consider a sub-standard league then so be it, if major leagues suffer because of it then who really gives a rats fat........!! IF you dont like the way football has become now and the state the precious Wimmera League is in..............then I suggest you build a bridge!!

[Footyz Life]

Standard has dropped dramatically since around 2002. Ararat and warrack went from powerhouses to whipping boys in the space of a few seasons. A horsham side that struggled to beat those two went onto to become untouchable without any personal changes. The most dissapointing thing is that the horsham side that first won with guy smith, dumensy, skurrie and others would beat todays horsham side by over 100 points in my opinion. Too many lesser leagues have clubs with money to drag good players out of big leagues like the wimmera, as well as hard to entice people to the area with small money and average jobs. If horsham stops being the powerhouse and clubs can sign a few stars each it will attract better players to join the league. Many players are coming to the league to play for horsham to play in a premiership then leaving. ie. Tim Pickett, Lachlan Woodward, Tom Crabtree, etc. If other teams become stronger it might attract the likes of skurrie and dumensy back and will in turn lead to the league becoming a powerhouse again. Id this fair??
BIGW, BIGW, BIGW, NO personal changes my left knacker. A side that couldn`t beat those two. Horsham lost a prelim. to eagles by 3pts in 2002 and beat ararat during that year. 2002 was similar to last year two at the top and then the third side not far behind. In 2003 Skurrie returned and there was no Carr, Cammilleri. 2004 side would be the best in my opinion when they added Carr, Ryan, Batchelor, Perkins, Dalziel, etc plus the young blokes that have come up through the years, Barnett, Hartigan, Askew, Jye Smith, Andy Carter, Jarrod Wright, Lennon, Spasic, Liston, Adlington, Ross and durack you could just go on and on. Then add a Penny and an Arnel the following years with these young blokes coming up and that is why they are up there every year without spending the big bucks. Pickett was a horsham jnr before he played b/ball then came back and Crabtree is in his third year and hasn`t played in a flag. Wouldn`t you think they are there to learn off some of the best gettin around? Would you think that with others clubs putting structures in place to get up with horsham like ya Nhill`s is better for the league?:confused:

[The Big W]

BIGW, BIGW, BIGW, NO personal changes my left knacker. A side that couldn`t beat those two. Horsham lost a prelim. to eagles by 3pts in 2002 and beat ararat during that year. 2002 was similar to last year two at the top and then the third side not far behind. In 2003 Skurrie returned and there was no Carr, Cammilleri. 2004 side would be the best in my opinion when they added Carr, Ryan, Batchelor, Perkins, Dalziel, etc plus the young blokes that have come up through the years, Barnett, Hartigan, Askew, Jye Smith, Andy Carter, Jarrod Wright, Lennon, Spasic, Liston, Adlington, Ross and durack you could just go on and on. Then add a Penny and an Arnel the following years with these young blokes coming up and that is why they are up there every year without spending the big bucks. Pickett was a horsham jnr before he played b/ball then came back and Crabtree is in his third year and hasn`t played in a flag. Wouldn`t you think they are there to learn off some of the best gettin around? Would you think that with others clubs putting structures in place to get up with horsham like ya Nhill`s is better for the league?:confused:

So you're telling me players like woodward, leeming, arnel, batchelor, perkins didn't swap clubs to play in a premiership side. The fact that horsham players such as jye smith and andy carter are now playing at other wimmera league clubs suggests that horsham aren't necessarily a group of good mates but just that they have the livestock to win. They should be offering money to their own players to reward them instead of bringing in mercenaries to play for a premiership. Why do u think their supporter base is so poor???

[The Big W]

Big W, who really gives a rats if the Wimmera League is suffering from district leagues feeding off of it and the fact that it may not be at its peak as it was several years ago. Yes I know it is the major league around this area but each league and every individual club has to look after themselves, they aint gunna say come footy season, "Gee we better not chase that player as he plays in the Wimmera League and they will not be as strong if the likes of those guys switch leagues."

You pointed out 2 players in particular and that money is the only reason them and the likes play football. What a load of rubbish, I dont personally know these 2 guys but in their defence and others that switch from the Wimmera League to the Horsham District, money wouldn't just be the driving force. There is a thing called "Mates" and that is what the majority of players play for, to play along side there mates. If that means switching over to a lower league then good on em!! Then there are obviously some that do just play for money, if thats the case then so be it. If people are good enough to get paid a large portion of money and clubs whether being in a major league or just a district league are prepared to fork it out then so be it. As I have posted previously before, football is becoming a business and that is the reality of it nowadays. Loyalty in the game has gone somewhat now and it is all about money, whether it be clubs trying to earn a quid to survive or a player trying to earn a living. But dont loose site of the fact Big W that in the end playing football is all about playing with your mates because your football years are probably the best years of your life and whether it be in a major league or what you consider a sub-standard league then so be it, if major leagues suffer because of it then who really gives a rats fat........!! IF you dont like the way football has become now and the state the precious Wimmera League is in..............then I suggest you build a bridge!!

Loyalty should be a big part of country footy. All kids grow up dreaming of playing in a senior premiership for their home team. Players that jump round tryin to chase a premiership and auctioning themselves off to the highest bidder is what is dragging a lot of country leagues down. Playing with your mates is a big part of it but more than likely your mates are goin to be part of the football club you started at. Horsham has a large amount of clubs they supply players to but i'm sure the majority of peoples mate come from their footy club. You say who gives a rats if the wimmera league drops down. If the wimmera league falls down the crowds will start to dwindle as there will be 2 leaguesw the standard of the HDFL. When this happens teams will start folding and will eventually become one league that is second rate and wont be able to attract any players. Players that go to the HDFL or others chasing money are purely in it for money because if they are good enough to get the money their home club would b able to offer similar dollars in most cases. People with your mentality is the reason the wimmera is falling. Sorry if i don't want to see it relegated to a div 3/4 league that has no respect or drawpower

[Footyz Life]

So you're telling me players like woodward, leeming, arnel, batchelor, perkins didn't swap clubs to play in a premiership side. The fact that horsham players such as jye smith and andy carter are now playing at other wimmera league clubs suggests that horsham aren't necessarily a group of good mates but just that they have the livestock to win. They should be offering money to their own players to reward them instead of bringing in mercenaries to play for a premiership. Why do u think their supporter base is so poor???
You should get facts before you type Big W as your jealousy is clouding your judgement.Leeming went to Hsm because he is mates of cam penny whose father played for horsham, Arnel went after years of harrassment and his brother was there, batchelor played for hsm previously. I am not saying that success doesn`t make it easier but Horsham have built the success so any easier it is, is just reward for work done. Carter left because he got 700-800 p/g and an ass. coach role which wasn`t avail. at hsm and Smith left because he played in 2`s flag in 04 due to being injured and out of form and goes out with cobber cassidy`s daughter. Horsham players who are not recruited don`t want the cash they want success and if paying a few recruits is going to bring that success then so be it. It`s called unselfishness and the top money earners at Hsm are the coaching panel and check out the names and see where they originate from. The horsham playing group is as together off field as on the field not like some clubs who fight each other instead. Horshams supporter base is as good as anyone else in the league you have to look at home games with the people on the hill and on the balcony and supporterbase is not just who turns up sat. either. You should get fact before you make up the crap you put on this thread or at least not just make up ideas in that narrow minded scone.:D

[The Big W]

You should get facts before you type Big W as your jealousy is clouding your judgement.Leeming went to Hsm because he is mates of cam penny whose father played for horsham, Arnel went after years of harrassment and his brother was there, batchelor played for hsm previously. I am not saying that success doesn`t make it easier but Horsham have built the success so any easier it is, is just reward for work done. Carter left because he got 700-800 p/g and an ass. coach role which wasn`t avail. at hsm and Smith left because he played in 2`s flag in 04 due to being injured and out of form and goes out with cobber cassidy`s daughter. Horsham players who are not recruited don`t want the cash they want success and if paying a few recruits is going to bring that success then so be it. It`s called unselfishness and the top money earners at Hsm are the coaching panel and check out the names and see where they originate from. The horsham playing group is as together off field as on the field not like some clubs who fight each other instead. Horshams supporter base is as good as anyone else in the league you have to look at home games with the people on the hill and on the balcony and supporterbase is not just who turns up sat. either. You should get fact before you make up the crap you put on this thread or at least not just make up ideas in that narrow minded scone.:D

I think your the one with the clouded judgement because it is just coincidence that these players came to horsham after they had won a flag or two???? You think they would've come if horsham was unsuccessful. I congratulate horsham on their coaches being homegrown but i'm sure smith would've stayd if given the opportunity he deserved. He is a solid contributor for the diggers at the moment. As soon as horsham falls back to the pack these players will leave again. So how can you defend them?? Don't be surprised if a Stawell v Diggers g/f occurs, that horsham could have a mass exodus

[roaring tiger]

You should get facts before you type Big W as your jealousy is clouding your judgement.Leeming went to Hsm because he is mates of cam penny whose father played for horsham, Arnel went after years of harrassment and his brother was there, batchelor played for hsm previously. I am not saying that success doesn`t make it easier but Horsham have built the success so any easier it is, is just reward for work done. Carter left because he got 700-800 p/g and an ass. coach role which wasn`t avail. at hsm and Smith left because he played in 2`s flag in 04 due to being injured and out of form and goes out with cobber cassidy`s daughter. Horsham players who are not recruited don`t want the cash they want success and if paying a few recruits is going to bring that success then so be it. It`s called unselfishness and the top money earners at Hsm are the coaching panel and check out the names and see where they originate from. The horsham playing group is as together off field as on the field not like some clubs who fight each other instead. Horshams supporter base is as good as anyone else in the league you have to look at home games with the people on the hill and on the balcony and supporterbase is not just who turns up sat. either. You should get fact before you make up the crap you put on this thread or at least not just make up ideas in that narrow minded scone.:D

The only reaseon Louy Dalziel went there was for a flag which he got and then he left for Lahurum. He cashed in and got 1. Good luck to him i reckon as all any player wants to do is play in a premiership.

[The Big W]

The only reaseon Louy Dalziel went there was for a flag which he got and then he left for Lahurum. He cahsed 1 and got 1. Good luck to him i reckon as all any player wants to do is play in a premiership.

Everyone plays football to get premierships but i wouldn't resort to tactics like that. It wouldn't mean much since you have no feeling of fighting for one. That would leave more of an empty feeling in my gut rather than a fulfilling one. Thats why when ararat and warrack won their premierships that crowds turned up and the players had a lot more feeling. Now horsham has premiership whores rocking up on their doorstep i think its devaluing them for the core players as well as other teams. Horsham probably would still win without the p/ship chasers but i feel that the feeling isn't as strong as it would've been had they won 02 or in 03 when they did win. Hopefully tuckey can guide stawell into the g/f and united can click and mayb take a place in the non-demons final. Would be great for the comp as well as the demons. May entice skurrie etc, back and breathe fresh air into the comp as well as lifting the standard. If johns get injured it will happen, if not could still happen......

[Grimmett]

The only reaseon Louy Dalziel went there was for a flag which he got and then he left for Lahurum. He cahsed 1 and got 1. Good luck to him i reckon as all any player wants to do is play in a premiership.

Ditto Anthony Perkins (Kalkee)

[journeyman]

I'll stick up for Horsham and a few blokes here. The reason Horsham have been so good is because of a core group who are very loyal to the club. They are always going to be strong when the side includes Farr, Carr, Bunworth, Wright, Johns, Both, Hartigan. They have a lot of good kids coming through the ranks because they have a good junior structure. This will continue.

When you're a successful club people want to be involved. If a player lobs into town or a District League player wants to have a crack at a higher league Horsham are obviously going to have a big chance because of their recent history.

Is it worse going to a club for success or money????

Batchelor has played over 100 games there and the past three flags - he's hardly just come for success.

Perkins and Dalziel would have had offers from a lot of Wimmera clubs but they chose Horsham because they had a chance to play in a succesful side and they had mates there. They were terrific for the club and I don't think anyone would say a bad word about them. They both played significant roles in the club winning flags.

[The Big W]

What are peoples thoughts for the games this weekend??

Diggers v. Eagles; Diggers 40+
Rats v. Roos; Rats by 10
Burras v. Tigers; Tigers by 15
Saints v. Demons; Demons by 150+

Diggers have too much leg speed and run over an ageing warrack team. Look for miller to return to form with a bag, with a handy contribution by combe. Mibus leading the way for the diggers. Eagles rely on okley, greig, and murphy who don't have the legs to run out full games. Even early with the diggers to pull away as game goes on.

Rats on the up of late and dimboola struggling on and off field. Dimmy may struggle to find a team to travel. Will be close, rats need fratin back on deck, jackson, bligh and walton firing and should just get over the line. If mcfarlene can find form and some allies in the likes of clugston, everett and mckinnon could win but too many players playing badly.

Tigers are the big improvers this year with graham and beer leading the way. Share the workload well over a reasonably even team and only expect them to get better as they settle a side under davidson. Need a watson, dickinson or dodds to kick a bag to match it with the better teams. Look for cole to go forward to give them fire power. Burras will be competitive but rely on the likes of Kosch, Midgley, Walsh and Delahunty too heavily. Lannin will take the points against midgley after restricting johns in a heavy defeat, restricting him to 3-4. Possible match up of kosch v. batson, which would be a gamble put would pay off handsomely if it comes off. Batson has the motor and the strength to go with him, but may not have the smarts. Must keep kosch to around 20 and 2 goals or less. This allows playmakers like beer, merrett, graham and bayzand freedom to set up the attacks. Low scoring game and look for meyer to be amongst the goals for the tigers

Demons could be poised to post a 250+ score against the saints. Johns (if not held back to fully recover from injry) and Carr will run riot infront of goals and both could end up in double figures. Woodward, Batchelor and Adlington will give a constant supply to these power forwards. Bunworth and Barnett will find form and the floodgates will open early on. Saints fading force and have all but claimed the spoon. Too many fringe players and missing guns like watson and burgess. Have good juniors but not enough 23-26 year olds. Kelm carrying a heavy load and frustration getting to him with ill-directed punches hitting opposition players.

[roaring tiger]

I'll stick up for Horsham and a few blokes here. The reason Horsham have been so good is because of a core group who are very loyal to the club. They are always going to be strong when the side includes Farr, Carr, Bunworth, Wright, Johns, Both, Hartigan. They have a lot of good kids coming through the ranks because they have a good junior structure. This will continue.

When you're a successful club people want to be involved. If a player lobs into town or a District League player wants to have a crack at a higher league Horsham are obviously going to have a big chance because of their recent history.

Is it worse going to a club for success or money????

Batchelor has played over 100 games there and the past three flags - he's hardly just come for success.

Perkins and Dalziel would have had offers from a lot of Wimmera clubs but they chose Horsham because they had a chance to play in a succesful side and they had mates there. They were terrific for the club and I don't think anyone would say a bad word about them. They both played significant roles in the club winning flags.

Brad Hartigan will do exactly what he did last year journeyman and leave the roosters before the end of the year so he can play in another flag this year. There core group of players (Arnel, Carr, Farr, Johns, Bunworth, Wright) just happen to be a total spine which any club would love to have.

[The Big W]

I'll stick up for Horsham and a few blokes here. The reason Horsham have been so good is because of a core group who are very loyal to the club. They are always going to be strong when the side includes Farr, Carr, Bunworth, Wright, Johns, Both, Hartigan. They have a lot of good kids coming through the ranks because they have a good junior structure. This will continue.

When you're a successful club people want to be involved. If a player lobs into town or a District League player wants to have a crack at a higher league Horsham are obviously going to have a big chance because of their recent history.

Is it worse going to a club for success or money????

Batchelor has played over 100 games there and the past three flags - he's hardly just come for success.

Perkins and Dalziel would have had offers from a lot of Wimmera clubs but they chose Horsham because they had a chance to play in a succesful side and they had mates there. They were terrific for the club and I don't think anyone would say a bad word about them. They both played significant roles in the club winning flags.

Agree totally that the core horsham players are there and are very good contributors. Would still be very hard to beat. My point is i believe horsham should be rewarding loyal players from the reserves or juniors that may not be quiet up to it, but will help them develop long term. And they won't up and leave if horsham starts losing. Instead of playing these blow-ins that want a premiership medallion or two and then move on. This will be proved better when horsham starts the descent down the ladder which will have happened by 2010

[journeyman]

Agree totally that the core horsham players are there and are very good contributors. Would still be very hard to beat. My point is i believe horsham should be rewarding loyal players from the reserves or juniors that may not be quiet up to it, but will help them develop long term. And they won't up and leave if horsham starts losing. Instead of playing these blow-ins that want a premiership medallion or two and then move on. This will be proved better when horsham starts the descent down the ladder which will have happened by 2010

Why would you play blokes that aren't up to it and leave quality players in the reserves when you're trying to win premierships???

You play blokes for the long term when you're side isn't going that well and you need to get games into them for the future (which Horsham did in the early 00s and late 90s).

Horsham have won the past four and are going for a fifth, they've got to play their best side and try to make history. Blokes such as Penny, Dalziel, Perkins, Leeming have helped the club win those flags.

However, most of Horsham's four premiership sides have had players from their junior system or blokes that live in the town. They've got a lot of young blokes running around and have for the past few years.

If they slide down the ladder a bit by 2010 that's fine, as long as they've made the most of the time when they've had a really strong list. You can't stay on top forever.

[Eddies Boy]

Why would you play blokes that aren't up to it and leave quality players in the reserves when you're trying to win premierships???

You play blokes for the long term when you're side isn't going that well and you need to get games into them for the future (which Horsham did in the early 00s and late 90s).

Horsham have won the past four and are going for a fifth, they've got to play their best side and try to make history. Blokes such as Penny, Dalziel, Perkins, Leeming have helped the club win those flags.

However, most of Horsham's four premiership sides have had players from their junior system or blokes that live in the town. They've got a lot of young blokes running around and have for the past few years.

If they slide down the ladder a bit by 2010 that's fine, as long as they've made the most of the time when they've had a really strong list. You can't stay on top forever. Im not a great fan of the Horsham side but you cant knock them for there recent eforts over the past 3 to 4 years. There is no point whinging and moaning about ring ins coming for a year just looking for a priemership. All sides no matter what league or standard go through this with players, its just a part of football. Some players that should get a go miss out, but hey shit happens we wish it didnt but it does. Lets all enjoy the weekend of football coming.

[Footyz Life]

Agree totally that the core horsham players are there and are very good contributors. Would still be very hard to beat. My point is i believe horsham should be rewarding loyal players from the reserves or juniors that may not be quiet up to it, but will help them develop long term. And they won't up and leave if horsham starts losing. Instead of playing these blow-ins that want a premiership medallion or two and then move on. This will be proved better when horsham starts the descent down the ladder which will have happened by 2010
Big W how many blokes do you think can fit in a side? If u reward ones that aren`t up to it what will happen to the juniors and reserve players that are up to it, do ya think? Did you know that ryan lennon, jarrod wright, chris walsh, joel geue, jerome williams and andy seers all played in a 2`s flag b4 they played in a senior one. that is called rewarding blokes that keep having a crack and improving themselves which jye smith may have done if he didn`t leave in 05. Against dimboola, Hsm had 5 blokes u/18 and another 6 under 21, i would say they are rewarding juniors aswell wouldn`t you. There is no doubt the tide will turn on Hsm eventually and Hsm blokes are fully aware of that, that is the hunger that keeps them going and when the tide does turn i think everyone involved can look back and see the records are in there forever. I wouldn`t be holding my breath for a descent this year big w because last game v Dim, There was no Liston, Ross, Spasic, Barnett done hammy first 10, bunworth only played last 1/4, Wright had his first game in 2`s, Rentsch will play 2`s this week or next and there is a whisper Dumesny played 2`s sat and has told hornets to shove it.:D

[Footyz Life]

Im not a great fan of the Horsham side but you cant knock them for there recent eforts over the past 3 to 4 years. There is no point whinging and moaning about ring ins coming for a year just looking for a priemership. All sides no matter what league or standard go through this with players, its just a part of football. Some players that should get a go miss out, but hey shit happens we wish it didnt but it does. Lets all enjoy the weekend of football coming.
Congrats eddies boy common sense prevails!:thumbsu:

[Footyz Life]

What are peoples thoughts for the games this weekend??

Diggers v. Eagles; Diggers 40+
Rats v. Roos; Rats by 10
Burras v. Tigers; Tigers by 15
Saints v. Demons; Demons by 150+

Diggers have too much leg speed and run over an ageing warrack team. Look for miller to return to form with a bag, with a handy contribution by combe. Mibus leading the way for the diggers. Eagles rely on okley, greig, and murphy who don't have the legs to run out full games. Even early with the diggers to pull away as game goes on.

Rats on the up of late and dimboola struggling on and off field. Dimmy may struggle to find a team to travel. Will be close, rats need fratin back on deck, jackson, bligh and walton firing and should just get over the line. If mcfarlene can find form and some allies in the likes of clugston, everett and mckinnon could win but too many players playing badly.

Tigers are the big improvers this year with graham and beer leading the way. Share the workload well over a reasonably even team and only expect them to get better as they settle a side under davidson. Need a watson, dickinson or dodds to kick a bag to match it with the better teams. Look for cole to go forward to give them fire power. Burras will be competitive but rely on the likes of Kosch, Midgley, Walsh and Delahunty too heavily. Lannin will take the points against midgley after restricting johns in a heavy defeat, restricting him to 3-4. Possible match up of kosch v. batson, which would be a gamble put would pay off handsomely if it comes off. Batson has the motor and the strength to go with him, but may not have the smarts. Must keep kosch to around 20 and 2 goals or less. This allows playmakers like beer, merrett, graham and bayzand freedom to set up the attacks. Low scoring game and look for meyer to be amongst the goals for the tigers

Demons could be poised to post a 250+ score against the saints. Johns (if not held back to fully recover from injry) and Carr will run riot infront of goals and both could end up in double figures. Woodward, Batchelor and Adlington will give a constant supply to these power forwards. Bunworth and Barnett will find form and the floodgates will open early on. Saints fading force and have all but claimed the spoon. Too many fringe players and missing guns like watson and burgess. Have good juniors but not enough 23-26 year olds. Kelm carrying a heavy load and frustration getting to him with ill-directed punches hitting opposition players.

Diggers and eagles, diggers by 50pts
Rats and Dim, Dim by 12pts
Min/mur and Nhill, Min/mur by 6pts
Hsm and saints, Hsm by 100pts+

[The Big W]

Against dimboola, Hsm had 5 blokes u/18 and another 6 under 21, i would say they are rewarding juniors aswell wouldn`t you.

Dimmys got more problems than players at the moment by all accounts so don't be surprised if they just sneak into the 5 or miss out altogether. Talented side but not really functioning as a team. On paper every bit as good as horsham, in the game, results speak for themselves. United and Warriors the main challenges, with surprise packet nhill an unknown force and minyip-murtoa with the usual suspects to make up the 5. Can't see minyip murtoa pushing the others except nhill. Nhill stuck with horsham in the first half but couldn't sustain it for a full game. Will be interesting to see how they go against the diggers and warriors, as well as next time around against stawell. Stawell will rely on tuckey, which is fair enough, if farrer, williamson, potter can win the ball and abraham help tuckey out with the goals could challenge. Would back matthews to beat johns, so defininte contender. United have a lot of new faces and may not be firing on all cylinders till late in the season but will come home strong. If miller can kick multiples with combe and mibus be willing to sacrifice his game to shut down johns, midfield every bit as good as the demons if not better. Looking forward to the second half of the season when stawell and united will make their charge at the demons.

[roaring tiger]

What are peoples thoughts for the games this weekend??

Diggers v. Eagles; Diggers 40+
Rats v. Roos; Rats by 10
Burras v. Tigers; Tigers by 15
Saints v. Demons; Demons by 150+

Diggers have too much leg speed and run over an ageing warrack team. Look for miller to return to form with a bag, with a handy contribution by combe. Mibus leading the way for the diggers. Eagles rely on okley, greig, and murphy who don't have the legs to run out full games. Even early with the diggers to pull away as game goes on.

Rats on the up of late and dimboola struggling on and off field. Dimmy may struggle to find a team to travel. Will be close, rats need fratin back on deck, jackson, bligh and walton firing and should just get over the line. If mcfarlene can find form and some allies in the likes of clugston, everett and mckinnon could win but too many players playing badly.

Tigers are the big improvers this year with graham and beer leading the way. Share the workload well over a reasonably even team and only expect them to get better as they settle a side under davidson. Need a watson, dickinson or dodds to kick a bag to match it with the better teams. Look for cole to go forward to give them fire power. Burras will be competitive but rely on the likes of Kosch, Midgley, Walsh and Delahunty too heavily. Lannin will take the points against midgley after restricting johns in a heavy defeat, restricting him to 3-4. Possible match up of kosch v. batson, which would be a gamble put would pay off handsomely if it comes off. Batson has the motor and the strength to go with him, but may not have the smarts. Must keep kosch to around 20 and 2 goals or less. This allows playmakers like beer, merrett, graham and bayzand freedom to set up the attacks. Low scoring game and look for meyer to be amongst the goals for the tigers

Demons could be poised to post a 250+ score against the saints. Johns (if not held back to fully recover from injry) and Carr will run riot infront of goals and both could end up in double figures. Woodward, Batchelor and Adlington will give a constant supply to these power forwards. Bunworth and Barnett will find form and the floodgates will open early on. Saints fading force and have all but claimed the spoon. Too many fringe players and missing guns like watson and burgess. Have good juniors but not enough 23-26 year olds. Kelm carrying a heavy load and frustration getting to him with ill-directed punches hitting opposition players.

If Nhill want to win the game they surley wont play batson on Kosch. Batson has hardly played any footy other than this year (to my knowledge) and to put him on Kosch with all his experience they may as well give MM the points. I couldn't see Dickinson kicking a bag as he is only a kid but watson, meyer and dodds could be good for 3 or 4 each. Maybe Lannin to go foward with Cole to take midgely.

[MightyRoar]

Loyalty should be a big part of country footy. All kids grow up dreaming of playing in a senior premiership for their home team. Players that jump round tryin to chase a premiership and auctioning themselves off to the highest bidder is what is dragging a lot of country leagues down. Playing with your mates is a big part of it but more than likely your mates are goin to be part of the football club you started at. Horsham has a large amount of clubs they supply players to but i'm sure the majority of peoples mate come from their footy club. You say who gives a rats if the wimmera league drops down. If the wimmera league falls down the crowds will start to dwindle as there will be 2 leaguesw the standard of the HDFL. When this happens teams will start folding and will eventually become one league that is second rate and wont be able to attract any players. Players that go to the HDFL or others chasing money are purely in it for money because if they are good enough to get the money their home club would b able to offer similar dollars in most cases. People with your mentality is the reason the wimmera is falling. Sorry if i don't want to see it relegated to a div 3/4 league that has no respect or drawpower

Im not a great fan of the Horsham side but you cant knock them for there recent eforts over the past 3 to 4 years. There is no point whinging and moaning about ring ins coming for a year just looking for a priemership. All sides no matter what league or standard go through this with players, its just a part of football. Some players that should get a go miss out, but hey shit happens we wish it didnt but it does. Lets all enjoy the weekend of football coming

I dont want to go on about it much more cause I think people have expressed their opions enough in regards to your original post Big W! Your rite in saying that Loyalty should be a big part in country footy. But Big W the cold hard fact is that it aint anymore. People like you is the reason the Wimmera and similar legues are falling not because of people with the mentality of myself. Because people like myself realise and accept where footy is heading, like the comments made by Eddies Boy above, absolutely spot on. It is a part of footy nowadays players coming and going and in defence to them, how can you blame them. Footy is about winning premierships and playing with your mates, some players never get the chance to have a crack at the last day so why not go else where to give yourself the opportunity!! As for playing with your mates at the footy club you started at, yeah that would be great if you did that and won premierships. But what about the blokes that have mates that play at other clubs and different leagues!!
For the players chasing money, I've already covered this previously but dont always point the finger at the player too, clubs chase players and offer the big $$$$$, you cannot hardly blame a player for wanting to earn a few extra quid from playing, like I said thats footy nowadays.

You made comments about how clubs should reward blokes in the 2's and who have been loyal to their club..................Big W, dont loose site of what clubs r playing for and that is a premiership. If a player aint good enough, then he doesn't deserve to play in the 1's. If that is how you would set your senior side up mate by rewarding loyalty, then I think you'd find the club wouldn't survive, purely because there would be no success, hence a dwindling lack of support for the club!!

As for the league becoming one, this will only happen because of player shortages nowadays, not because of any other reason which you are implying like the Winmmera league falling because of players chasing money in lower leagues.

Time to move on Big W, wake up an smell the roses buddy!! This is the direction all footy is heading, come to accept it, otherwise start following camel racing or something like that where you cannot blame the camels!!

[The Big W]

If Nhill want to win the game they surley wont play batson on Kosch. Batson has hardly played any footy other than this year (to my knowledge) and to put him on Kosch with all his experience they may as well give MM the points. I couldn't see Dickinson kicking a bag as he is only a kid but watson, meyer and dodds could be good for 3 or 4 each. Maybe Lannin to go foward with Cole to take midgely.

Batson and beer are probably the only two with big enough motors to go with kosch, and with beer being one of nhills playmakers, don't know if they can afford him to tag. May not play close enough either. Whereas batson can go with him, shut down adlington for a half against horsham, would definitely be worth giving a go. Prefer lannin to stay on midgley and cole to go forward. Cole still has a lot of goals ahead of him i believe, capture the form of around 2000 would be good. Don't write off dickinson, has the body to go with the men jus needs a little luck an some good delivery and you never know...

[Tige]

Batson and beer are probably the only two with big enough motors to go with kosch, and with beer being one of nhills playmakers, don't know if they can afford him to tag. May not play close enough either. Whereas batson can go with him, shut down adlington for a half against horsham, would definitely be worth giving a go. Prefer lannin to stay on midgley and cole to go forward. Cole still has a lot of goals ahead of him i believe, capture the form of around 2000 would be good. Don't write off dickinson, has the body to go with the men jus needs a little luck an some good delivery and you never know...


All this talk about match-ups!! Some blokes might be in for a suprise..

[Vivian02]

Go Minyip-Murtoa!!!

[Perry18]

Clearance from anglesea Bowen Thomas back to Minyip Murtoa. Massive chance to improve the side. Big horse will most likely slot straight into 1's

[Onelastbounce]

Gr8 2 c a Stawell Warrior in Simon Farrer back playing footy!! Its amazing what success does isn't it. Last couple of years when the battling young side was struggling, probable their most important player goes walky. Those young fellas would have learn't so much from someone like daego. let me no if this wasn't the case, but i think that i am pretty much on the money!!! ;)

[Tige]

When you read the back page of the mail times to day it just makes you wonder...Dimboola already have one of the most talented sides going round but they still want to spend more money. What they need is some some true township feeling, unfortunately thats something which money just cant buy.

[roaring tiger]

When you read the back page of the mail times to day it just makes you wonder...Dimboola already have one of the most talented sides going round but they still want to spend more money. What they need is some some true township feeling, unfortunately thats something which money just cant buy.

What was the article Tige?? Also do you know what Nhill's team for tomorrow is??

[roaring tiger]

Clearance from anglesea Bowen Thomas back to Minyip Murtoa. Massive chance to improve the side. Big horse will most likely slot straight into 1's

I wouldn't of thought he would improve MM that much.

[roaring tiger]

Gr8 2 c a Stawell Warrior in Simon Farrer back playing footy!! Its amazing what success does isn't it. Last couple of years when the battling young side was struggling, probable their most important player goes walky. Those young fellas would have learn't so much from someone like daego. let me no if this wasn't the case, but i think that i am pretty much on the money!!! ;)

Probably a fair call by the looks of it onelastbounce. He is a very good player though and any side in the league would love to have a player of his cailbure.

[lualdeng]

look out to jarryd "leroy" graham this weekend as john delahunty is back this weekend from rebels and is looking for revenge personally!!!

[Animal]

What was the article Tige?? Also do you know what Nhill's team for tomorrow is??

Artical was about Dimboola getting back Shane Thorne and his brother Baden from Darwin. The Cray fisherman was rambling on about how they will solve all there problems. I think there problem maybe a support off the field issue the past 2 or 3 years dimboola has had a strong supporter base but it seems that has dropped off much like the bank account will next season. Good on them for havin a crack though.

[Animal]

look out to jarryd "leroy" graham this weekend as john delahunty is back this weekend from rebels and is looking for revenge personally!!!

Whats the controversy Between these 2?? I've seen these two play i would say Jarryd Graham will have the upper hand he has developed well after rebels which some players struggle with. You would nearly go on to say he is one of Nhills Best. Thoughts??

[The Big W]

Whats the controversy Between these 2?? I've seen these two play i would say Jarryd Graham will have the upper hand he has developed well after rebels which some players struggle with. You would nearly go on to say he is one of Nhills Best. Thoughts??

Graham probablnhills best player at the moment. Rock solid defender that mightn't get the best forward but sets up play well from defence. Good challenge if he does take on delahunty but definitely expect graham to take the points and be among nhills best. Hopefully can help out the key position players on lachlan delahunty and midgley. Good to see a player of grahams quality play for his hoe team when other offers would've been on the table to move up in grade. Hopefully nhill can repay players like him and beer for their loyalty with a finals appearance, and a good one at that.

[ClarkeM]

how do you think the United Thirds will go ?

[footyn_beer]

Clearance from anglesea Bowen Thomas back to Minyip Murtoa. Massive chance to improve the side. Big horse will most likely slot straight into 1's

Played like a burnt gumboot.

[Andyt30]

Minyip-Murtoa blew Nhill away
QT HT 3qt 4th
Minyip/Murtoa 6.7.43 7.8.50 11.11.77 17.13.115
Nhill Tigers 1.3.9 4.7.31 7.8.50 10.8.68

(47) pts

and Eagles won under 14's & Under 17's very easy

[BETON5]

Minyip-Murtoa blew Nhill away
QT HT 3qt 4th
Minyip/Murtoa 6.7.43 7.8.50 11.11.77 17.13.115
Nhill Tigers 1.3.9 4.7.31 7.8.50 10.8.68

(47) pts

and Eagles won under 14's & Under 17's very easy

By going on that result you would have to say minyip will take 5th spot.
Top 5
horsham
stawell
united
dimboola
minyip

[bomber_42]

just some thoughts from you guys on the best players in league considering form this year, possibly toohey medal considerations through a third of the season. a lot of talk on here and in the papers has been on the form of tuckey, mcfarlane and even okely?? my biased opinion says mibus would be well up there but heres how i see it (going merely on games ive been a part of and a little on BOG's in the paper, although i dont take notive because some clubs just favour their stars to win them a travel voucher form the WMT)

Mibus
Kosch
Johns
Tuckey
Carr

A quick top 5. Any Nhill players to be considered in that standard considering their fair form to start the year? I am yet to see them play or hear about them. Dimboola stars not considered as if they were in form the team would be higher on the ladder.

[Onelastbounce]

I believe that John Kosch might win just ahead of Brent Tuckey. Tuckey could win if he doesn't miss 2 many games through injury. And my outside tip for the Medal is Stawell recruit Nathan Holloway. C how they go!!!!!:thumbsu:

[Rat_attack]

just some thoughts from you guys on the best players in league considering form this year, possibly toohey medal considerations through a third of the season. a lot of talk on here and in the papers has been on the form of tuckey, mcfarlane and even okely?? my biased opinion says mibus would be well up there but heres how i see it (going merely on games ive been a part of and a little on BOG's in the paper, although i dont take notive because some clubs just favour their stars to win them a travel voucher form the WMT)

Mibus
Kosch
Johns
Tuckey
Carr

A quick top 5. Any Nhill players to be considered in that standard considering their fair form to start the year? I am yet to see them play or hear about them. Dimboola stars not considered as if they were in form the team would be higher on the ladder.


Mibus is no good! big soft and just no good! ask the donald people about the big fella andi am sure you will not get a good response, Took the $$$$ and ran, he could of at least got a kick when he was there for the amount of coin he was on, the skunk!!!

[McCleanMagic]

i havent seen much wimmera footy before. But Dale Bligh would have to be in the top 3 footballers in the wimmera. Tuckey would be the best. Bligh would have the best skills i have ever seen in country footy.

[Rat_attack]

i havent seen much wimmera footy before. But Dale Bligh would have to be in the top 3 footballers in the wimmera. Tuckey would be the best. Bligh would have the best skills i have ever seen in country footy.

You need to look outside the square you live in!

[McCleanMagic]

You need to look outside the square you live in!

What does that mean rat attack? that he is no good or that i should watch more footy