View Full Version : Selling Cole....
Ok guys, lets put on our trading officionado hats on and lets nut out a trade seeing the lad wants to come 'home' ....Richie Cole..;pick 11 a couple of years ago sixth in out b&f in 04 had an injury riddled year this year as commonplace down at pie land..still young and quick..what can or what are u prepared to put on the table...
bomberbluey
16 Sep 2005, 18:11
Rumour has it that Cupido is on the table and Collingwood are interested....
rychenroller
16 Sep 2005, 18:13
2 Litre coke (warm from coles) and a packet of tim tams for both of em
Rumour has it that Cupido is on the table and Collingwood are interested....
Sucker trade...dont want someone who your gonna delist anyway...I'd say Collingwood feels the same way. Would have to be fair and if a measley supporter(like me) can figure out the nonsense of a Cupido deal its unlikely Pies will get massively sucker punched like suggested above.
dave_27
16 Sep 2005, 18:33
dont rate him at all, unfortunately sheedy does.
collingwood would be lucky to get cupido for him.
bogan4life
16 Sep 2005, 18:35
Collingwood will pick where he goes, out of the dogs vs essendon for him.
We would give up birss who is worth a late 2nd round pick.
Id rather keep cupido than trade him fo cole. Both have questionable work ethics but Cupido's football ability is a class above. Cole would play as a small defender most likely as his lack of endurance has always been a problem. McVeigh is our best small defender and he's a better footballer than cole also.
Cole may thrive at essendon but unless he grows to about 6"4 over pre-season and can hold down CHB or maybe grow some testicles and become a hard in and under clearance speciallist on-baller then i dont see why we would offer much or anything at all.
MagpieScouser
16 Sep 2005, 18:54
if you want a 22 year old 10 year player hand over pick7 and we will give you pick 21.if we are smart we will not fold like we did with nick davis
if you want a 22 year old 10 year player hand over pick7 and we will give you pick 21.if we are smart we will not fold like we did with nick davis
pick seven for a bloke we dont need?.... :D
You may be in control of the trade but essendon can walk away anytime and not give a ********.
dave_27
16 Sep 2005, 19:01
if you want a 22 year old 10 year player hand over pick7 and we will give you pick 21.if we are smart we will not fold like we did with nick davis
lmfao.
now this has to be a p iss take.
Darealrath
16 Sep 2005, 19:08
Hands off Cupes.
You can have Alvey if you'd like.
bigbomber
17 Sep 2005, 07:29
henneman, alvey, murphy, allan, haynes take your pick. or you can just take them all if you like
Cole - The Black Henneman.
Rumour has it that Cupido is on the table and Collingwood are interested....
the pies have their own cupido in one chris egan
Cole would be an alright pick-up if we get him for a player like Cupido or similar, but if draft picks are involved then it's not worth it.
Michael Moore
17 Sep 2005, 18:25
Cole would be an alright pick-up if we get him for a player like Cupido or similar, but if draft picks are involved then it's not worth it.
considering what you offered for Scott West last year l doubt many clubs will serioulsy talk to Essendon unless they get realistic with equitable trades.
he'll be off the the Doggies so most of your fans on this forum shouldn't worry about it.
win-win-win all round............ :D
slugger
17 Sep 2005, 21:02
considering what you offered for Scott West last year l doubt many clubs will serioulsy talk to Essendon unless they get realistic with equitable trades.
Bit rich coming from a Collingwood fan.
Collingwood will pick where he goes
They don't have an option if he wants to go to Essendon and only Essendon as is suggested - a player can reject a trade to a club he doesn't want to go to even if the two clubs agree
Hands off Cupes.
Deal. We'll trade Cole to Footscray instead.
alex1fun
17 Sep 2005, 21:58
Deal. We'll trade Cole to Footscray instead.
Have fun with that.
bogan4life
17 Sep 2005, 22:57
They don't have an option if he wants to go to Essendon and only Essendon as is suggested - a player can reject a trade to a club he doesn't want to go to even if the two clubs agree
that is if he is contracted, a un contracted player goes any where.
Longy413
18 Sep 2005, 00:58
that is if he is contracted, a un contracted player goes any where.
You can't trade any player anywhere if he refuses to go.
bogan4life
18 Sep 2005, 01:11
You can't trade any player anywhere if he refuses to go.
If collingwood says you go to the Dogs who want you or go into the PSD i see him going to the dogs, he is in talks with the dogs so why would he refuses to go there?
Longy413
18 Sep 2005, 01:13
If collingwood says you go to the Dogs who want you or go into the PSD i see him going to the dogs, he is in talks with the dogs so why would he refuses to go there?
I'm not saying he wouldn't.
I'm just saying, at no stage can you trade a player against their will. Contracted or un-contracted.
If collingwood says you go to the Dogs who want you or go into the PSD i see him going to the dogs, he is in talks with the dogs so why would he refuses to go there?
Quite simple, because Essendon is his preferred option and Essendon have a PSD pick before the Dogs
I'm not saying he wouldn't.
I'm just saying, at no stage can you trade a player against their will. Contracted or un-contracted.
Correct. Indeed, Cole can refuse all offers and go in the PSD. Of course, he has to nominate his contract and we might just pick him up on that contract if Carlton has a preferred player.
In this instance, he might be uncontracted, but he doesn't have us over a barrel.
We'll try and get him to you guys, but it'll need to be a fair trade. Despite your opinions to the contrary, he's not a complete spud and your coach knows this full well!
windyhill
18 Sep 2005, 18:56
Bit rich coming from a Collingwood fan.
Exactly, collingwood are known for always wanting to do the killer trade. IE wanting everything in their favour. We have a good trading record over the years. collingwood being collingwood have to first get over themselves.
silverphoenix
18 Sep 2005, 19:38
Cole and pick 21 for Picks 7 and 39 anything less and id start talking to the dogs
dave_27
18 Sep 2005, 19:42
Cole and pick 21 for Picks 7 and 39
lol.
are you thick or just biased?
Longy413
18 Sep 2005, 19:55
Correct. Indeed, Cole can refuse all offers and go in the PSD. Of course, he has to nominate his contract and we might just pick him up on that contract if Carlton has a preferred player.
In this instance, he might be uncontracted, but he doesn't have us over a barrel.
We'll try and get him to you guys, but it'll need to be a fair trade. Despite your opinions to the contrary, he's not a complete spud and your coach knows this full well!
Not suggesting any of that...just pointing out to young bogan that he was wrong (again).
Osmodiar
18 Sep 2005, 20:07
Cole and pick 21 for Picks 7 and 39 anything less and id start talking to the dogs
ha
This is a joke isnt it? Give away pick 7 to get Cole :confused:
Really in all honesty i would think a second round pick from us would be the maximum he is worth.
nonchalance
18 Sep 2005, 22:14
Cole and pick 21 for Picks 7 and 39 anything less and id start talking to the dogs
Cool.
Go to the dogs.
Pick 7 is not going anywhere, unless we get an absolute gun for it.
Cole and pick 21 for Picks 7 and 39 anything less and id start talking to the dogs
Now thats funny. :p
Exactly, collingwood are known for always wanting to do the killer trade. IE wanting everything in their favour. We have a good trading record over the years. collingwood being collingwood have to first get over themselves.
That's garbage!
Many FANS are like that, but if you look at Collingwood's trading history, we haven't not been involved in a win - win trade. Probably ever!
Sure, you can highlight the Stevens non-deal as being something whereby we weren't willing to pay what he's worth, but it also wasn't out fault that we finished second and effetively had a second round pick instead of a top 5er!
Other than that 'Bealey, I'd like you to name the times we were asking too much, or were involved in a win - lose trade! Thanks in advance.
nonchalance
19 Sep 2005, 12:16
it also wasn't out fault that we finished second and effetively had a second round pick instead of a top 5er!
Are ye admitting yer team shouldn't have ended up in the GF?
That you were lucky, and had nothing to do with it?
Are ye admitting yer team shouldn't have ended up in the GF?
That you were lucky, and had nothing to do with it?
Hehe!
Not our fault that we were good and thus got penalised due to the draft system.
nonchalance
19 Sep 2005, 13:03
Hehe!
Not our fault that we were good and thus got penalised due to the draft system.
Ah, now I gets you, although I should point out that you're getting picks 2 and 5 how long after being in GFs two years in a row?
And after our worst year in 25 years we're getting Pick 7.
Cole - The Black Henneman.
By God, he's not that bad is he! :eek:
By God, he's not that bad is he! :eek:
Yes, he is ********ful.
windyhill
20 Sep 2005, 22:20
That's garbage!
Many FANS are like that, but if you look at Collingwood's trading history, we haven't not been involved in a win - win trade. Probably ever!
Sure, you can highlight the Stevens non-deal as being something whereby we weren't willing to pay what he's worth, but it also wasn't out fault that we finished second and effetively had a second round pick instead of a top 5er!
Other than that 'Bealey, I'd like you to name the times we were asking too much, or were involved in a win - lose trade! Thanks in advance.
********ing hell !!! Are you that thick ? Your namesake`s deal for one, I`m sure collingwood looked after The Brisbane Bears adequately as nafan was snaffled from their grasp. And look, you`ve given me a nickname " bealey" how quaint.
Vinnie Vegas
21 Sep 2005, 15:23
the pies have their own cupido in one chris egan
I have no problem with that comparison...
Egan = Cupido with a brain and a heart.
If Cupido had a brain and a heart, he'd be awesome. Unfortunately, he doesn't.
nonchalance
21 Sep 2005, 15:43
I have no problem with that comparison...
Egan = Cupido with a brain and a heart.
If Cupido had a brain and a heart, he'd be awesome. Unfortunately, he doesn't.
He does have a better kick and better hands than Egan, though.
Darealrath
21 Sep 2005, 16:46
Egan = Cupido with a brain and a heart.
Ah is that like "Cole = Long with guts" then ?
Egan? Ha!
What is it with collingwood? Everytime they snare an aboriginal player his the next best thing when they're just ********... Ahmet, Neon Leon... The list goes on.
Egan is the next Lovett Murray.
eastaugh36
21 Sep 2005, 18:37
Egan? Ha!
What is it with collingwood? Everytime they snare an aboriginal player his the next best thing when they're just ********... Ahmet, Neon Leon... The list goes on.
Egan is the next Lovett Murray.
I love the fact they went for Egan when Monfries was available!!!!
nicho_magic
21 Sep 2005, 18:49
murphy cupido hennamen
bogan4life
21 Sep 2005, 19:23
I love the fact they went for Egan when Monfries was available!!!!
Monfries could not get a kick in the vfl the other week, still up in the air,
Wasnt Monfries number 8 and egan no 10?
Longy413
21 Sep 2005, 19:27
Monfries could not get a kick in the vfl the other week, still up in the air,
Was near on BOG the week before and played the Prelim with a shoulder injury that has since been reconstructed. Watch a bit of footy before making comment. His AFL performances speak volumes of his quality.
Wasnt Monfries number 8 and egan no 10?
Wrong again (common trend for you).
Egan 10, Monfries 14.
bogan4life
21 Sep 2005, 19:42
Was near on BOG the week before and played the Prelim with a shoulder injury that has since been reconstructed. Watch a bit of footy before making comment. His AFL performances speak volumes of his quality.
Wrong again (common trend for you).
Egan 10, Monfries 14.
And that why i had the ? next to it.
As i said there both first year players so its very early to tell.
Who was no 8?
Russel?
windyhill
30 Sep 2005, 20:47
That's garbage!
Many FANS are like that, but if you look at Collingwood's trading history, we haven't not been involved in a win - win trade. Probably ever!
Sure, you can highlight the Stevens non-deal as being something whereby we weren't willing to pay what he's worth, but it also wasn't out fault that we finished second and effetively had a second round pick instead of a top 5er!
Other than that 'Bealey, I'd like you to name the times we were asking too much, or were involved in a win - lose trade! Thanks in advance.
todays hun just confirmed what is common knowledge.....re the filth and trading..." has a major problem though - there are a few clubs out there who will simply refuse to deal with them"....there it is boyo , in black and white, in the collingwood daily !!!!!
Now that he is here.
Mum's doubts as Cole dons home colours
By Samantha Lane
October 9, 2005
Richard Cole says his move to leave Collingwood for Essendon was the best thing for his career.
Photo: Sebastian Costanzo
FOR a woman who once hoped that Windy Hill would be the first football home of her surrogate son, Richard Cole, Essendon director Beverly Knight felt strangely apprehensive last week as it shaped to become his second residence.
Over the four seasons Cole played for Collingwood, Knight regularly found herself somewhere that made her feel similarly peculiar — seated with Magpie diehards in the reserve for officials and family. But after a year in which Cole managed only eight senior appearances because of form and injury, the 22-year-old rejected a fresh contract offer from the Magpies and has wound up at Essendon.
"To be honest, Essendon wasn't my preferred option for him. I've thought it's been really good for him to have his own space and there were other clubs talking to him," Knight, a long-time art dealer, said.
"It was really that he convinced me, and our recruiting people convinced me that there was room for both of us and it would be a really good thing.
"If I felt after a while that it was a bit intimidating me being there … I'd probably talk to my club, and if need be I'd probably call it a day … but I don't think it will … I would see him less at the football club than I would see him just calling in to do his washing or something."
Knight first met Cole when he was three and would tag along with his father, Ross, on their visits to source art in remote Northern Territory communities. An aspiring footballer, Cole moved to Melbourne aged 14, and after first moving into a Healesville boarding school, he later lived with Knight, who became his legal guardian. He moved out just over a year ago.
Essendon had hoped to recruit the quick defender under the father-son rule, which then applied to football officials and might have been open to modern interpretation. But the rule was changed in a decision Knight described at the time as "heartbreaking". It allowed Collingwood to get in first.
A sense of limited opportunity at the Magpies this year appears to be the reason behind Cole's decision to leave the club.
"I felt a move was the best thing for my career. I have nothing against Collingwood or my teammates — they are a very good club. I just wanted to make a move," Cole, who is holidaying in Queensland, told essendonfc.com.au last week.
"I was an Essendon supporter and always wanted to play at the club. I am there now and hopefully things work out. Essendon has shown a lot of faith in me."
Knight said Cole's problems at Collingwood began early this year. A modest eight-game return came after his brilliant 2004 season when Cole played 22 matches and placed sixth in the Pies' best-and-fairest award.
"Straight after the pre-season Richard felt that there wasn't a position for him there … he felt that he couldn't see where he fitted into the team," Knight said.
"The year went on and I watched him sort of probably losing interest … it got to the stage where he felt that he needed a different club to make the most of himself. He didn't fall out of love with Collingwood. It was a very traumatic decision for him to make because you've got all your friends, but he just felt that there wasn't a place for him."
http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2005/10/08/1128563036127.html
zebbitty
11 Oct 2005, 12:41
Now that he is here.
His stocks have risen considerably. ;)
todays hun just confirmed what is common knowledge.....re the filth and trading..." has a major problem though - there are a few clubs out there who will simply refuse to deal with them"....there it is boyo , in black and white, in the collingwood daily !!!!!
Clubs refuse to deal with us Bealey, because we've got ******** all talent!
Would be interesting to have known who specifically said they don't trade with us. Sounds like another attempt by the Collingwood Daily to slip our name in.
As for Cole, enjoy. He's a gun!