EDFL moves [Archive]

roge_3

20th September 2005, 10:24

Very interested to hear of anyone that's heard anything re coaching or player movements in the Essendon District Football League.
Know of Alan Ezard going to Pascoe Vale and the whisper that Minton-Connell is heading back to Abers, but keen to hear any other news.

Heard that Meacham is going back to Riddell from Pascoe Vale?? Anyone heard anything of this?

Grandale

20th September 2005, 12:09

nah, but wouldn't surprise with Ron Rooney not coaching at Pacco anymore.

footystickerman

20th September 2005, 12:22

Very interested to hear of anyone that's heard anything re coaching or player movements in the Essendon District Football League.
Know of Alan Ezard going to Pascoe Vale and the whisper that Minton-Connell is heading back to Abers, but keen to hear any other news.

Xavier Codd from Pascoe Vale Panthers to Strathmore, filling the void at Half Bank Flank

roge_3

20th September 2005, 12:38

Another Sunbury boy playing at Pacco, and leaving... Does this mean Brent Purcell will leave too?

roge_3

20th September 2005, 12:43

Did hear a rumour that Lee James was being looked at by Greenvale, and that it was almost certain... Anyone heard this one?

Travvy43

20th September 2005, 12:46

Any talk about Avondale Heights and douta Stars

What sort of players do these two clubs need to take the next step

Doona2

20th September 2005, 12:52

Very interested to hear of anyone that's heard anything re coaching or player movements in the Essendon District Football League.
Know of Alan Ezard going to Pascoe Vale and the whisper that Minton-Connell is heading back to Abers, but keen to hear any other news.

Was at a bbq with Jason Dennis last night, the big loaf has definately got the gig at Abers ahead of a few candidates, including Anthony Daniher. They'll still have to recruit a few to improve.

Grandale

20th September 2005, 13:07

Any talk about Avondale Heights and douta Stars

What sort of players do these two clubs need to take the next step

Doutta's need some key pos players. They were just too small this year.
As for Avondale, they aren't that far away. Midway through the last quarter of their semi final clash with Strathmore you couldn't get enough money on the Heights running over the top of them but they just couldn't get there and Strathmore went on to win the flag.
Cameron price back next year will be a big help.

schimma_20

20th September 2005, 15:27

I have heard Tullamarine has appointed Ron Rooney as Senior coach for 2006. Can anyone confirm?

caveman

20th September 2005, 16:05

Has anybody heard anything about West Coburg? They had a great season but just couldnt get over the line against Craigieburn in the big one.

footystickerman

20th September 2005, 16:13

footystickerman

20th September 2005, 16:17

Will these players leave if Sunbury is promted to the EDFL? This poses an interesting question as they will be in B grade if they move.

roge_3

20th September 2005, 16:26

footystickerman

20th September 2005, 16:40

Hard to see Tim Little leaving if what I am hearing is true about a nice little offer for him and his brother next year.... See what comes of that.
Dont know how many will leave Sunbury now.. Even if they go to B grade EDFL I think they will retain the services of most.

The plot thickens, i know a fair bit about Little and Lobb being a Sunbury man but i haven't seen much of Xavier Codd since he left 2 or so years ago. Everybody still speaks very highly of him but can he cut it in A Grade EDFL at Strathmore? Can anybody give me any info about him and what he brings to the table??

Pantsless

20th September 2005, 16:41

Will these players leave if Sunbury is promted to the EDFL? This poses an interesting question as they will be in B grade if they move.

Rumour has it that Sunbury would go straight into A Grade, in an expanded 12 team A Grade comp. Another club rumoured to be joining the EDFL is Parkside.

footystickerman

20th September 2005, 16:48

Rumour has it that Sunbury would go straight into A Grade, in an expanded 12 team A Grade comp. Another club rumoured to be joining the EDFL is Parkside.

I don't think they can join A grade, so quickly as they haven't gone through any qualifications. I don't expect them to expand the competition, due to the success over previous years, why ruin a winning formula.

geoffhopkinsburra

20th September 2005, 17:12

heard keilor want meldrum and morgan from romsey

schimma_20

20th September 2005, 17:31

I doubt it highly that Sunbury will come into the EDFL A grade and then Parkside there is getting to be too many clubs in the competition.

Anyone know who is coaching Keilor in 2006 seems that Callander is not required there next year

BigCat1

20th September 2005, 19:49

Did hear a rumour that Lee James was being looked at by Greenvale, and that it was almost certain... Anyone heard this one?

Who is Lee James?

Deefer4

20th September 2005, 22:10

Yes its true Sunbury will loose a few of their players. Including Tim Little, Jamie Lobb and ex player Xavier Codd from Pascoe Vale as I stated before, all have been linked to Strathy. Andrew Betz also a former player of Strathmore looks to be returning to the gold and blue along with former favorite son, Dan Madden. This paints an even better picture for the 'mores' title defence in '06'

Spoke to Tim Little on EDFL GF day. Has been approached by Strathmore,and will talk to them, but does not really want to leave Sunbury.
On another post by schimma20
[I doubt it highly that Sunbury will come into the EDFL A grade and then Parkside there is getting to be too many clubs in the competition.

Anyone know who is coaching Keilor in 2006 seems that Callander is not required there next year]

Two points.
1 EDFL rules state that clubs must have teams at all age levels, including seniors. Parkside have only one junior team. Unless the current EDFL clubs vote to change the constitution, Parkside cannot be admitted to the EDFL. Interestingly though, EDFL officials have raised the prospect of a third division as well!

2 David Callander announced after the prelim final loss that he would step down from the coaching role, but wanted to continue on with the club in some other capacity. Bit of accuracy in statements please.

Deefer4

20th September 2005, 22:19

Has anybody heard anything about West Coburg? They had a great season but just couldnt get over the line against Craigieburn in the big one.
Caveman,

West Coburg, prior to their GF loss, on the assumption that they would go to A Grade, were trying to get, from Keilor, Rosios (ruckman) Houchar, (on baller & two time EDFL Agrade B&F winner), and Kaakour (small on baller). From East Keilor, they were trying to get Flavell, small forward. All had played with West Coburg previously. As WC did not make it into A grade, their drawing power diminishes. Rooster, who made a come back mid year, may also quit, not wanting another year in B Grade.

Pantsless

21st September 2005, 08:53

Bit of accuracy in statements please.

That's why they're called rumours.

roge_3

21st September 2005, 08:58

Who is Lee James?

Won the Burley Sharpshooter for most goals, leading goalkicker in RDFL, League Best and Fairest. Kicked 8 in the GF on the weekend.

roge_3

21st September 2005, 08:59

heard keilor want meldrum and morgan from romsey

Really?? Where did you hear that from...?

schimma_20

21st September 2005, 09:42

Two points.
1 EDFL rules state that clubs must have teams at all age levels, including seniors. Parkside have only one junior team. Unless the current EDFL clubs vote to change the constitution, Parkside cannot be admitted to the EDFL. Interestingly though, EDFL officials have raised the prospect of a third division as well!

2 David Callander announced after the prelim final loss that he would step down from the coaching role, but wanted to continue on with the club in some other capacity. Bit of accuracy in statements please.

I wouldn't think the EDFL would go to three divsions. That means that they have to get another 6 clubs to come in, who is going to want to play in C grade everyone wants to play in A grade. When was this idea raised?

My North

21st September 2005, 11:09

The EDFL do not stick to the policy of having teams in all grades, junionrs and seniors has Maribyrong Park and North Coburg Saints would have been kicked out the league a number of years ago due to not enough junior teams in some under age sections.

When Craigieburn and Jacana come into the EDFL from the Riddell they stared off in B Grade, both want to be playing in A Grade. Jacana have done nothing since been in the EDFL making finals one I think, Craigieburn have made finals regulary and this year winning the B Grade grand final and will be in A Grade next year.

If Sunbury and Parkside do come in then they should play in B Grade. You might scrap in a C Grade section but need 2 more clubs. Who will make up C section, Sydenham Hillside?, Hadfield? any other club? Perhaps another club from anoter League?

Travvy43

21st September 2005, 11:17

If Sunbury and Parkside do come in then they should play in B Grade. You might scrap in a C Grade section but need 2 more clubs. Who will make up C section, Sydenham Hillside?, Hadfield? any other club? Perhaps another club from anoter League?

Parkside in Div 2, they would tare that competition apart.

any news on how tate went this year for greenvale

My North

21st September 2005, 11:23

Parkside in Div 2, they would tare that competition apart.

That they will do.

geoffhopkinsburra

21st September 2005, 13:06

Really?? Where did you hear that from...?

keilor prez been watching them for some time as have other clubs namely heathcote who will be strong next year. interesting to see if they stay, meldrum could of had a flag at gisborne now and morgan was off to swan hill at the start of this year but both stayed.

roge_3

21st September 2005, 13:29

Interesting, so what has the Keilor Prez said about the two? Is this where you got your info from?

geoffhopkinsburra

21st September 2005, 13:50

Interesting, so what has the Keilor Prez said about the two? Is this where you got your info from?

yeah just getting as much info as he can about them. can't recall his name though.

Grandale

21st September 2005, 14:01

Craig Teal is Keilor's president.

caveman

21st September 2005, 17:36

Caveman,

West Coburg, prior to their GF loss, on the assumption that they would go to A Grade, were trying to get, from Keilor, Rosios (ruckman) Houchar, (on baller & two time EDFL Agrade B&F winner), and Kaakour (small on baller). From East Keilor, they were trying to get Flavell, small forward. All had played with West Coburg previously. As WC did not make it into A grade, their drawing power diminishes. Rooster, who made a come back mid year, may also quit, not wanting another year in B Grade.

It would be great to get those guys back. Unfortunately we just missed out on going up but these players should come back and get us back into A grade! :)

Deefer4

21st September 2005, 22:22

I wouldn't think the EDFL would go to three divsions. That means that they have to get another 6 clubs to come in, who is going to want to play in C grade everyone wants to play in A grade. When was this idea raised?

Schimma_20, never assume. Never at any stage mentioned the split of the 3 divisions. You and another poster are thinking that three divisions of 10 teams will be the structure. Not so. A Grade, stays at 10 teams, B Grade goes to 8 and a newly formed C Grade would have 6. Now before people jump all over me, this is not my idea. It is a an idea being considered by the EDFL board.

If we start looking for a motive, and perhaps answer the question posed by another poster of who would make up the C grade, this is my speculation -- for years the EDFL have felt that there are too many teams in a very small radius around Strathmore, Oak Park, Coburg, Broady. So lets have a look.

The two A grade clubs in that zone, Strathmore & Oak Park would stay in A Grade. But Nearby you have Glenroy - improving. Hadfield - struggling. West Coburg - OK. NCS - have struggled for years, crap ground. Jacana - bit up and down in B Grade. Pascoe Vale - ? Moonee Valley - will also struggle for a while and crap ground.
So they structure the C grade to annoy the crap out of NCS and Hadfield encouraging them to leave, B grade is back to 12 teams. That is my conspiracy theory. Certainly will not be touching the outlying clubs, that is where the growth will come from.

On another post by MyNorth I think, true the EDFL do give a bit of leeway for existing clubs not having all age teams, but fines do come into play. But they certainly will not admit a team without any junior structure.

And just to close, the Keilor prez has not been to watch the Morgan & Meldrum, others have.

caveman

22nd September 2005, 08:26

So they structure the C grade to annoy the crap out of NCS and Hadfield encouraging them to leave, B grade is back to 12 teams. That is my conspiracy theory. Certainly will not be touching the outlying clubs, that is where the growth will come from.

If this is the case where do you think Hadfield and North Coburg will go?

My North

22nd September 2005, 22:13

If this is the case where do you think Hadfield and North Coburg will go?

Western Region Football League or the VAFA

caveman

22nd September 2005, 23:01

Western Region Football League or the VAFA

I am not sure about Hadfield but I couldnt imagine North Coburg going anywhere. What do other people think about this?

Deefer4

22nd September 2005, 23:02

If this is the case where do you think Hadfield and North Coburg will go?

Into oblivion most likely, or merge with other clubs. If we have a look at the history of the EDFL, what were "traditional" clubs 20-30 years ago are gone or have merged. Ascot Vale - gone, the club that produced Ron Evans, Ken Fraser and a few others -- gone, now known as Tullamarine. If it is any consolation, will not happen in 2006, plans for a 3 division comp have been shelved for the moment, that is according to EDFL officialdom.

Also neither Sunbury nor Parkside have lodged written applications to join the EDFL. Until that happens, clubs cannot consider application or take a vote.

caveman

22nd September 2005, 23:22

Into oblivion most likely, or merge with other clubs. If we have a look at the history of the EDFL, what were "traditional" clubs 20-30 years ago are gone or have merged. Ascot Vale - gone, the club that produced Ron Evans, Ken Fraser and a few others -- gone, now known as Tullamarine. If it is any consolation, will not happen in 2006, plans for a 3 division comp have been shelved for the moment, that is according to EDFL officialdom.

Also neither Sunbury nor Parkside have lodged written applications to join the EDFL. Until that happens, clubs cannot consider application or take a vote.

Looking back over the last few years I can see that Hadfield are in trouble but North Coburg have made a big improvement. Why are people putting these two clubs in the same bracket?

Deefer4

23rd September 2005, 22:32

Looking back over the last few years I can see that Hadfield are in trouble but North Coburg have made a big improvement. Why are people putting these two clubs in the same bracket?

Caveman, they did improve this year, but the question is can they sustain the improvement? They do not have a good income stream, nor do they have a good local zone that produces good juniors, have not won a junior flag for years, and the only finals exposure their juniors have had that I recall, is 94/95 when Paul Chapman played for them. Their ground is the smallest in the comp, 60 meters out is virtually the centre circle. And to top it off, their rooms ---- I say nothing!

Bottom line is there are just too many clubs in that area competing for players. In addition to the EDFL teams I mentioned, Coburg Districts, Fawkner Park and the newly admitted into the WRFL, Brunswick Power, all compete for players in a very small zone. The EDFL do not see much of a future for them.

Rhombus

23rd September 2005, 22:51

Big whisper around town is that Ex-Western Bulldogs and Doutta Stars player Steve Kretiuk may get the Keilor gig.

Has anyone heard similar rumours?

caveman

24th September 2005, 09:39

So they structure the C grade to annoy the crap out of NCS and Hadfield encouraging them to leave, B grade is back to 12 teams. That is my conspiracy theory. Certainly will not be touching the outlying clubs, that is where the growth will come from.

In saying this do you think NCS and Hadfield would actually leave. They might be quite happy to play in a grade where they have more of a chance of success!

Deefer4

24th September 2005, 10:54

In saying this do you think NCS and Hadfield would actually leave. They might be quite happy to play in a grade where they have more of a chance of success!

Think both clubs would like to stay in existance and in the EDFL, but the sad facts are that the game is moving on, and with some clubs in the EDFL, paying an absolute squillion, the bar has been lifted. If a club is continually struggling, to win, it will struggle to attract players unless they get a generous benfactor.

The other problem, particularly with NCS, their residential area is primarily ethnic, it may take a few years for the kids to grasp Aussie Rules, and same with the businesses in the area. If you are successful and can attract a supporter base, there is some hope in attracting sponsors, without that difficult, to bring money into the club.

Folks, this is only my opinion and may be totally wrong and it may be worthless, but I do not see positive long term prospects for some clubs.

caveman

24th September 2005, 12:44

Think both clubs would like to stay in existance and in the EDFL, but the sad facts are that the game is moving on, and with some clubs in the EDFL, paying an absolute squillion, the bar has been lifted. If a club is continually struggling, to win, it will struggle to attract players unless they get a generous benfactor.

The other problem, particularly with NCS, their residential area is primarily ethnic, it may take a few years for the kids to grasp Aussie Rules, and same with the businesses in the area. If you are successful and can attract a supporter base, there is some hope in attracting sponsors, without that difficult, to bring money into the club.

Folks, this is only my opinion and may be totally wrong and it may be worthless, but I do not see positive long term prospects for some clubs.

Mate I know this is just your opinion and I think it is great to have a helathy discussion. I understand where you are coming from in regards to North Coburg as I played their 10 years ago but what I am just trying to think about is the following:

Would playing C Grade in EDFL be any worse than playing B Grade WRFL?
Would the club want to travel all over the place in the Amateurs?

Like you said these are just my thoughts and personally I wouldnt mind seeing the NCS in the VAFA but I think it would be great to have a C Grade in the EDFL. Although these clubs may never have the money and juniors to get to A Grade the same can be said for clubs in D4 of the VAFA and that is a very successful comp!

Look forward to your comments! :)

Barts

24th September 2005, 13:14

Two Points
1 EDFL rules state that clubs must have teams at all age levels, including seniors. Parkside have only one junior team. Unless the current EDFL clubs vote to change the constitution, Parkside cannot be admitted to the EDFL.

i was at parkside's rooms on thursday night, they had a sheet up in the rooms saying positions are open to coach junior sides next year from U/10 to U/18.

thewookie

24th September 2005, 13:15

caveman

24th September 2005, 13:43

i was at parkside's rooms on thursday night, they had a sheet up in the rooms saying positions are open to coach junior sides next year from U/10 to U/18.

sounds like an application to join the EDFL is not far away!

TheSheik

24th September 2005, 15:28

Anyone know who is coaching Keilor in 2006 seems that Callander is not required there next year

I'll speak with 'Boonga' in a fortnight's time when I see him on the annual golf trip, I'll tell you exactly whether he is going to be coaching there or not.

TheSheik

24th September 2005, 15:30

Craig Teal is Keilor's president.

Is he ?? Know him very well, played cricket with him & his brother. His sister is Adam Bentick's mum.

Deefer4

26th September 2005, 23:03

apparently no offers as yet. keilor want a high profile coach that will bring a couple of high priced recruits as part of the package. ryan pagan was approached but apparently keilor could not match an offer from St Albans

Keilor have not approached Ryan Pagan. A number of ex AFL players in the mix, and some former EDFL ex coaches also interested. More to the point, does Pagan want to stay at St Albans? Hear that he is unhappy, as well as a one other key player.

Deefer4

26th September 2005, 23:13

Mate I know this is just your opinion and I think it is great to have a helathy discussion. I understand where you are coming from in regards to North Coburg as I played their 10 years ago but what I am just trying to think about is the following:

Would playing C Grade in EDFL be any worse than playing B Grade WRFL?
Would the club want to travel all over the place in the Amateurs?

Like you said these are just my thoughts and personally I wouldnt mind seeing the NCS in the VAFA but I think it would be great to have a C Grade in the EDFL. Although these clubs may never have the money and juniors to get to A Grade the same can be said for clubs in D4 of the VAFA and that is a very successful comp!

Look forward to your comments! :)

Unless the EDFL can get some more teams into the comp, can't really see a third division working all that well with six teams. Personally, I would prefer to see the South Australian (Adelaide), model implemented, which is virtually the same as our Ammos. Metro A grade, with the best ten clubs, Metro B grade, etc, etc. Would end the squabbles I have seen on various posts over which is the best league outside VFL.

caveman

27th September 2005, 12:37

Unless the EDFL can get some more teams into the comp, can't really see a third division working all that well with six teams. Personally, I would prefer to see the South Australian (Adelaide), model implemented, which is virtually the same as our Ammos. Metro A grade, with the best ten clubs, Metro B grade, etc, etc. Would end the squabbles I have seen on various posts over which is the best league outside VFL.

I totally agree and would love to see that. Will it ever happen? I doubt it!

Grandale

28th September 2005, 09:52

I'll speak with 'Boonga' in a fortnight's time when I see him on the annual golf trip, I'll tell you exactly whether he is going to be coaching there or not.

Who is ``Boonga''? I can absolutely guarantee Dave Callander is not coaching ar Keilor next season.
Apparently he announced that to the playing group after their prelim final loss.
No word on who is replacement is yet, though.

---tagger---

28th September 2005, 11:31

Deefer4

28th September 2005, 22:24

What is the price range of the A Grade clubs in the EDFL. What do the best players at the club get each week???

Do clubs just get the money from sponsorship? What happens when the major sponsor leaves

Very interesting question and it depends on who you ask. Quick answer, it varies between clubs. Popular opinion has Greenvale paying out heeps, again if you believe rumours, Paxman is getting anywhere from $800 to $1200 per game. Strathmore raised the ante this year with some of the imports reportedly on $600-$900 per game. Drops away quite a bit after that. Most of the other clubs have budgets in the $50k to $100k bracket, with the payments obviously being lower.

Are you looking for a game Tagger? If so what is your background?

Money comes from sponsorship, bar canteen fund raiser. If a major sponsor leaves, it can cause a problem. We have seen a number of teams over the years go from chocolates to 100's and 1000's, not even boiled lollies, because they have lost a major sponsor.

Heard a rumour during the finals that Greenvale would be losing major funding and players next year, but heard a similar rumour last year as well.

Bulldog1954

28th September 2005, 22:28

caveman

28th September 2005, 22:29

Very interesting question and it depends on who you ask. Quick answer, it varies between clubs. Popular opinion has Greenvale paying out heeps, again if you believe rumours, Paxman is getting anywhere from $800 to $1200 per game. Strathmore raised the ante this year with some of the imports reportedly on $600-$900 per game. Drops away quite a bit after that. Most of the other clubs have budgets in the $50k to $100k bracket, with the payments obviously being lower.

Are you looking for a game Tagger? If so what is your background?

Money comes from sponsorship, bar canteen fund raiser. If a major sponsor leaves, it can cause a problem. We have seen a number of teams over the years go from chocolates to 100's and 1000's, not even boiled lollies, because they have lost a major sponsor.

Heard a rumour during the finals that Greenvale would be losing major funding and players next year, but heard a similar rumour last year as well.

How do you see the same question but regards to the B grade clubs? Can you give us a rundown? I know it is only opinion but am curious.

caveman

28th September 2005, 22:44

It would take a lot to push North Coburg into the WRFL, 3 and 4 years ago they had merger meetings with Coburg Districts as they wanted to come into the EDFL, they were voted against and since then they have become far more competitive and run at a profit

They have definitely come along way in the last few years. Hopefully they can keep their playing squad and maybe improve on it for season 2006!

My North

28th September 2005, 22:57

How do you see the same question but regards to the B grade clubs? Can you give us a rundown? I know it is only opinion but am curious.

Again depends on the club.

caveman

28th September 2005, 23:01

Again depends on the club.

CAn you go through the clubs with your opinion. If not what kind of position do you see West Coburg in for recruiting and even North Coburg?

Pantsless

29th September 2005, 08:06

My North

29th September 2005, 14:41

Craigieburn would be doing alright money wise. A soon to be massive club now they're in A Grade. Would make alot of money over the bar as there is only two places to drink in Craigieburn, the fooball club and the golf club. Together with massive amounts of juniors and the massive housing growth up there.

Craigienurn still has no pub, what a a crap, something to do with the bottle shop owner being on the council and gets all council mates to voter with him to knock back everytime a hotel is proposed.

My North

29th September 2005, 14:59

CAn you go through the clubs with your opinion. If not what kind of position do you see West Coburg in for recruiting and even North Coburg?

Dont know really much about all the clubs in B Grade expect for my club Maribyrnong Park.

West Coburg cannot recurit anyone because of majority of the players culture background. Anyone who follows the EDFL knows this. North Coburg have better in there recruiting in the last 2 seasons, they could not have got any worse than what they were, winning something like 4 games in 5 years. Have done okay but nothing special in the last 2 years. North Coburg clubrooms and ground are crap.

caveman

29th September 2005, 15:20

Dont know really much about all the clubs in B Grade expect for my club Maribyrnong Park.

West Coburg cannot recurit anyone because of majority of the players culture background. Anyone who follows the EDFL knows this. North Coburg have better in there recruiting in the last 2 seasons, they could not have got any worse than what they were, winning something like 4 games in 5 years. Have done okay but nothing special in the last 2 years. North Coburg clubrooms and ground are crap.

Yes I realise West Coburgs cultural backgrounds but in this day and age it is sad that you think that is why they cant recruit anyone. Would West Coburg have the finances to recruit heavily?

Deefer4

29th September 2005, 22:24

Yes I realise West Coburgs cultural backgrounds but in this day and age it is sad that you think that is why they cant recruit anyone. Would West Coburg have the finances to recruit heavily?

I think West Coburg were banking heavily on winning the B Grade flag and getting back into A grade, making them a more attractive proposition for players. As I said in an earlier post, they were targeting some of their former players, Houcher, Rosios, Kaakour and Flavell. Those four alone would probably cost $1200 to $1500. Of their existing players, Cudmore was paid a bit to come back as was Vizzini. So if you look at that group of players, gets to say $2000 per game, plus $1500 for the rest, would put their budget at around $mid 60's. Thats if they were in A grade. Probably cost quite a few bob more to attract better players into B grade, to get them back in A grade.

Apart from Marby Park, who appeared to be cashed up this year and did get some names, the rest of B grade is probably not paying much more than the $50K to $60k.

Craigieburn, the proceeds of the Sporting club are pretty well split over a number of affiliated clubs, football cricket, bowls. Whilst it does generate money, not as much, at the moment, as people think. Big danger now that they are in A grade is additional money coming in and making them a power. This was the fear of most EDFL clubs when they were admitted a few years back. :confused:

caveman

29th September 2005, 22:44

I think West Coburg were banking heavily on winning the B Grade flag and getting back into A grade, making them a more attractive proposition for players. As I said in an earlier post, they were targeting some of their former players, Houcher, Rosios, Kaakour and Flavell. Those four alone would probably cost $1200 to $1500. Of their existing players, Cudmore was paid a bit to come back as was Vizzini. So if you look at that group of players, gets to say $2000 per game, plus $1500 for the rest, would put their budget at around $mid 60's. Thats if they were in A grade. Probably cost quite a few bob more to attract better players into B grade, to get them back in A grade.

Fair point but it would be great if even a couple of these players showed a bit of loyalty and comeback to help the club and not just cash in when they are back in A grade!

My North

29th September 2005, 22:45

caveman

29th September 2005, 22:49

well people wont go there because of there cultural background

Mate I apologise if my message came across as I was having a go at you because I wasnt. I suppose I am just used to all the different cultures as I lived all my life in Coburg up until 20.

Sorry mate! I do understand what you are saying!

My North

29th September 2005, 22:56

Fair point but it would be great if even a couple of these players showed a bit of loyalty and comeback to help the club and not just cash in when they are back in A grade!

I doubt that they would go back to West Coburg. West Coburg have a bad history of being promated to A Grade only to go back down to B Grade the next year.

caveman

30th September 2005, 08:45

I doubt that they would go back to West Coburg. West Coburg have a bad history of being promated to A Grade only to go back down to B Grade the next year.

Cant disagree with that!

My North

2nd October 2005, 19:38

Cant disagree with that!

Lately West Coburg have made the last couple B Grand Finals only to lose them, it looks like that this will be West Coburg habit from now on.

caveman

2nd October 2005, 21:19

Lately West Coburg have made the last couple B Grand Finals only to lose them, it looks like that this will be West Coburg habit from now on.

Mate I think that is being a bit harsh on the mighty West. Although they have lost their past 2 grand final appearances, the last one was against a Craigieburn team that had a great season and West Coburg made it from 4th.

We beat Westmeadows, Taylors Lakes, Maribyrnong Park and only lost by 9 points. Although we lost the big one overall it was a great effort. Definitely should be top 3 next season! :)

roge_3

3rd October 2005, 12:30

Was speaking to a player from the WRFL side Seddon Yarraville on the weekend Ben Goggins who is looking at a move to Strathmore after an offer. Has anyone seen him and if so how do you think he will go in the EDFL?

Aussie_dude

9th October 2005, 21:59

Some EDFL moves i have heard:

Avondale Heights have lost the battle to sign Ryan Pagan, but are still recuiting. The loss of David Weston will hurt dearly. Additionally, Coburg listed player John Damian looks set to play the entire year for the heights.

Winter has left Strathmore, but this is old news now

Also heard that the youngest and most talented of the Kent boys has had a falling out with Steve MacPherson and may part with Greenvale. He has been injured the last two years with leg complaints and Glandular fever. Looks to move well and is young, but is still an unknown quantity. IMO he looks set to blossem and has been linked with Old Essendon, Doutta Stars and Marby Park.

Doutta Stars have signed Kade Carey for $700 a game. He will be a good addition as the Stars really lack height up foward.

Deefer4

9th October 2005, 22:13

Some EDFL moves i have heard:

Also heard that the youngest and most talented of the Kent boys has had a falling out with Steve MacPherson and may part with Greenvale. He has been injured the last two years with leg complaints and Glandular fever. Looks to move well and is young, but is still an unknown quantity. IMO he looks set to blossem and has been linked with Old Essendon, Doutta Stars and Marby Park.

Interesting that the coach and the club President's son have had a falling out. Be some uneasy moments in the Kent family home if he moves, particularly to Marby Park.

My North

9th October 2005, 23:17

Interesting that the coach and the club President's son have had a falling out. Be some uneasy moments in the Kent family home if he moves, particularly to Marby Park.

I am sure Bruce would understand and do the right thing and sack the coach Steven MacPherson in favour of his son, But then again :eek:

Jack-Packenham

10th October 2005, 07:08

Keilor are chasing former Airport West ruckman Cameron Eaton who is currently playing for Bundoora. Although at this stage he is leaning towards retirement, as work commitments hamper him from training 2 nights a week. Its hard to be paid well and not turn up to training on a tuesday.

BigCat1

10th October 2005, 10:40

Interesting that the coach and the club President's son have had a falling out. Be some uneasy moments in the Kent family home if he moves, particularly to Marby Park.

It's common knowledge at Greenvale that the youngest one is infact adopted and not really part of the family. With Scott Butler's progress Greenvale have a ready made replacement anyway.

My North

10th October 2005, 15:15

It's common knowledge at Greenvale that the youngest one is infact adopted and not really part of the family.

that would explain it then.

TheSheik

10th October 2005, 18:26

Anyone know who is coaching Keilor in 2006 seems that Callander is not required there next year

Spoke with David on the weekend, he told me that he resigned from the Keilor coaching job and is looking elsewhere.

TheSheik

10th October 2005, 18:27

Who is ``Boonga''? I can absolutely guarantee Dave Callander is not coaching ar Keilor next season.

"Boonga" is David Callender's nickname.

schimma_20

10th October 2005, 18:28

Some EDFL moves i have heard:

Winter has left Strathmore, but this is old news now

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Where has Winter gone to?

schimma_20

10th October 2005, 18:30

Spoke with David on the weekend, he told me that he resigned from the Keilor coaching job and is looking elsewhere.Is he looking to stay in the EDFL or another league?

Longy413

10th October 2005, 18:42

Not sure if it has been mentioned here already (apologies if it has), but I've heard John Barnes has applied for the Keilor coaching job.

Deefer4

10th October 2005, 23:05

Not sure if it has been mentioned here already (apologies if it has), but I've heard John Barnes has applied for the Keilor coaching job.

He hasn't.

Travvy43

11th October 2005, 08:27

Whos in line for the job there then for next year??

Grandale

11th October 2005, 09:51

Whos in line for the job there then for next year??

Brad Lloyd and Steve Kretiuk were two other names I heard mentioned. Now I must stress these are only rumours and did not come from anyone associated with the KFC, but the fact of the matter is those rumours are out there.
Can anyone confirm or deny?

Aussie_dude

11th October 2005, 10:46

Where has Winter gone to?

Having another go at VFL. I dont know where.

Aussie_dude

11th October 2005, 10:49

Brad Lloyd and Steve Kretiuk were two other names I heard mentioned. Now I must stress these are only rumours and did not come from anyone associated with the KFC, but the fact of the matter is those rumours are out there.
Can anyone confirm or deny?

Steve Kretiuk is more than a rumour. He was interviewed, and im told has been offered the job. This was last week and im not sure if he is going to take the job.

Longy413

11th October 2005, 13:52

He hasn't.

He has.

geoffhopkinsburra

11th October 2005, 21:59

Play indoor footy against a few keilor boys and they mentioned that Corey McKernan was a chance to play at the blues and David Flood was another candidate for coach.

Deefer4

11th October 2005, 22:10

He has.

Sorry Longy413, but he has not. Job was not advertised for him to lodge an application. Individuals have been approached, and John Barnes is not one of them. That is rock solid.

Brad Lloyd has elected to stay at Willy. Some of the other names in posts are close to the mark. Cory McKernan has been mentioned in discussions around the bar, not by the sub group interviewing.

A few ex Bulldogs players and one ex Carlton player in the mix.

punchfrombehind

12th October 2005, 10:42

Big rumour that North Coburg full-forward Tarz is going to play at another B-grade club. What is the general opinion on the big guy?

Longy413

12th October 2005, 12:53

Sorry Longy413, but he has not. Job was not advertised for him to lodge an application. Individuals have been approached, and John Barnes is not one of them. That is rock solid

John Barnes seems to think differently.

AuckMel

12th October 2005, 20:36

Big rumour that North Coburg full-forward Tarz is going to play at another B-grade club. What is the general opinion on the big guy?

The guy can kick the ball a fuggen mile.

Big. Strong mark. Maybe just a bit slow. Hope he stays. Top bloke who will come along and watch the kids on a sunday.

caveman

12th October 2005, 20:46

Big rumour that North Coburg full-forward Tarz is going to play at another B-grade club. What is the general opinion on the big guy?

Would be surprised if he left as he played juniours for the club and then tried his luck at Avondale Heights for a season before coming back to North Coburg. What club do you think he might be going to? He did play cricket at West Coburg.

Nuffy_O'Dwyer

13th October 2005, 08:46

Also heard that the youngest and most talented of the Kent boys has had a falling out with Steve MacPherson and may part with Greenvale. He has been injured the last two years with leg complaints and Glandular fever. Looks to move well and is young, but is still an unknown quantity. IMO he looks set to blossem and has been linked with Old Essendon, Doutta Stars and Marby Park.

There is no such thing as a talented Kent!!!