Footydraft.com profiles - Northern

[footyman]

Have just put up three Knights profiles - McKinley, Jackson and Anthony.

John Anthony (http://www.footydraft.com/players.php?player=john_anthony)

Ryan Jackson (http://www.footydraft.com/players.php?player=ryan_jackson)

Ben McKinley (http://www.footydraft.com/players.php?player=ben_mckinley)

[windows]

Have just put up three Knights profiles - McKinley, Jackson and Anthony.

John Anthony (http://www.footydraft.com/players.php?player=john_anthony)

Ryan Jackson (http://www.footydraft.com/players.php?player=ryan_jackson)

Ben McKinley (http://www.footydraft.com/players.php?player=ben_mckinley)

Hey Footyman why does Hurn rate so highly & Jackson so lowly when they are both regarded as slow, yet they are of similar build? Is there that much difference in their kicking or is there more to it?

[footyman]

Hey Footyman why does Hurn rate so highly & Jackson so lowly when they are both regarded as slow, yet they are of similar build? Is there that much difference in their kicking or is there more to it?
Fair question, I'm not certain of an answer to it.

I guess Hurn has played SANFL senior footy for two years now, there has been more hype with him. Going through Jackson's notes today I found more to like than hate, which probably means I should move him up a bit in footydraft.

Might be one to throw open to other posters.

[woody8]

Fair question, I'm not certain of an answer to it.

I guess Hurn has played SANFL senior footy for two years now, there has been more hype with him. Going through Jackson's notes today I found more to like than hate, which probably means I should move him up a bit in footydraft.

Might be one to throw open to other posters.
JACKSON IS A GUN SHOULD GO TOP 20 WITHOUT A DOUBT. CLASS ABOVE THE REST. GUN.

[burgartron]

yeah agreed would not be unhappy if essendon took him...alot to like about him. he was rated at 21 in footydraft last year, didn't expect him to go but i thought 39 was a fair slide. footyman would you be surprised if he went a lot higher? i think he'd be just as capable as say a mckinley in a forward role at AFL level but he's also shown better form in the midfield. don't want to take anything away from mckinley as he deserves to be rated higher based on his swag of goals and consistency throughout the season. however with questions over both their leg speeds in the footydraft and both their season's being nothing short of outstanding i'd see jackson as a slightly better prospect based on his versatility.
also i noticed toovey and redden have similar stories they were both further up the list last year in comparison to this year's footydraft. what's the reason for them going down the pecking order?

[footyman]

yeah agreed would not be unhappy if essendon took him...alot to like about him. he was rated at 21 in footydraft last year, didn't expect him to go but i thought 39 was a fair slide. footyman would you be surprised if he went a lot higher? i think he'd be just as capable as say a mckinley in a forward role at AFL level but he's also shown better form in the midfield. don't want to take anything away from mckinley as he deserves to be rated higher based on his swag of goals and consistency throughout the season. however with questions over both their leg speeds in the footydraft and both their season's being nothing short of outstanding i'd see jackson as a slightly better prospect based on his versatility.
also i noticed toovey and redden have similar stories they were both further up the list last year in comparison to this year's footydraft. what's the reason for them going down the pecking order?
Someone else is doing footydraft this year!! It isn't unusual a bloke is passed up one year to see them slip down the order the next...why did nobody bite last year? I know people are wanting this phantom draft to be spot on but we are 8 weeks out and to be honest it is so bloody open it is almost an impossible job to know who to put where. Very hard to weigh up where the interstate players fit into things too. It's not far off guesswork at this stage, down the track word gets out who interviews who and it's easier to get a realistic guide.

As I said already Jackson should be higher than he is, but I just couldn't see him going Top 20. Perhaps closer to 25 next update.

I think the three days later this week are enormous, almost more important than all the footy played this season because it will make or break some blokes.

[catluke]

hey guys i follow the Northern Nights and have been really impressed with Cathal Corrs efforts this year he has consitantly been in the best but have not heard a word of his achievements a friend told me that collingwood invited him down to train with them last week and they said that they thought he was unlucky to not be invited into draft camp... your thoughts

[Weaver]

I don't have the numbers at hand, but as a general rule guys who are passed over one year are unlikely to shoot up the draft board. The number of 2nd chance top-ages picked up in any year is fairly small compared to the first-run bottom ages.

So I would have Hurn a lot higher than Jackson for that reason.

I'd be tempted to shuffle any guy who was in last year's draft down 10 places on where I thought they should actually go.

Jackson is an awkward one though. He is a bit of a square peg for a round hole. He has plenty of good points but is a bit one-paced. He isn't really a key position player although can do it at junior level. He also doesn't quite have the leg-speed to go with the AFL wingmen and flankers. He probably has to be a ruck-rover and maybe he doesn't quite win the ball enough for that role.

Surely there is a role for a guy that talented in the AFL but it is tough to pick quite what it is.

[TheGeneral]

I don't have the numbers at hand, but as a general rule guys who are passed over one year are unlikely to shoot up the draft board. The number of 2nd chance top-ages picked up in any year is fairly small compared to the first-run bottom ages.

So I would have Hurn a lot higher than Jackson for that reason.

I'd be tempted to shuffle any guy who was in last year's draft down 10 places on where I thought they should actually go.

Jackson is an awkward one though. He is a bit of a square peg for a round hole. He has plenty of good points but is a bit one-paced. He isn't really a key position player although can do it at junior level. He also doesn't quite have the leg-speed to go with the AFL wingmen and flankers. He probably has to be a ruck-rover and maybe he doesn't quite win the ball enough for that role.

Surely there is a role for a guy that talented in the AFL but it is tough to pick quite what it is.
I haven't seen him play so how does he compare to Buchanan?

[woody8]

I don't have the numbers at hand, but as a general rule guys who are passed over one year are unlikely to shoot up the draft board. The number of 2nd chance top-ages picked up in any year is fairly small compared to the first-run bottom ages.

So I would have Hurn a lot higher than Jackson for that reason.

I'd be tempted to shuffle any guy who was in last year's draft down 10 places on where I thought they should actually go.

Jackson is an awkward one though. He is a bit of a square peg for a round hole. He has plenty of good points but is a bit one-paced. He isn't really a key position player although can do it at junior level. He also doesn't quite have the leg-speed to go with the AFL wingmen and flankers. He probably has to be a ruck-rover and maybe he doesn't quite win the ball enough for that role.

Surely there is a role for a guy that talented in the AFL but it is tough to pick quite what it is. over 30 possessionons in the finals isnt enough come on.

[footyman]

I don't have the numbers at hand, but as a general rule guys who are passed over one year are unlikely to shoot up the draft board. The number of 2nd chance top-ages picked up in any year is fairly small compared to the first-run bottom ages.

So I would have Hurn a lot higher than Jackson for that reason.

I'd be tempted to shuffle any guy who was in last year's draft down 10 places on where I thought they should actually go.

Jackson is an awkward one though. He is a bit of a square peg for a round hole. He has plenty of good points but is a bit one-paced. He isn't really a key position player although can do it at junior level. He also doesn't quite have the leg-speed to go with the AFL wingmen and flankers. He probably has to be a ruck-rover and maybe he doesn't quite win the ball enough for that role.

Surely there is a role for a guy that talented in the AFL but it is tough to pick quite what it is.
Interesting comment Weaver.

One thing on Jackson, when it comes to his average possessions there were games when he had lots of the ball but often at Cramer St he was used as a loose man in defence when a strong breeze favoured one end so he played down there for effectively half the game and got a lot of the ball fairly easily.

[Weaver]

One thing on Jackson, when it comes to his average possessions there were games when he had lots of the ball but often at Cramer St he was used as a loose man in defence when a strong breeze favoured one end so he played down there for effectively half the game and got a lot of the ball fairly easily.

Also in the final against Ballarat he got a heap of the ball against Grigg essentially playing as CHF. He doesn't shape as an AFL key forward.

I know it is isn't always appropriate to compare kids to AFL players but I often like to do it just to picture what role a player might fill in the AFL. I just struggle to think of a Ryan Jackson in the AFL ... maybe Goddard at a pinch and he is struggling a little for a position (at least until Harvey retires).

Personally I don't pay much attention to TAC stats for a variety of reasons. Anyone who was watched a lot of it over the years could rattle off names like Cam Hall, James Allan and others who averaged close to 40 touches and weren't picked up.

[David_02]

oi footyman,

wouldn't u think if west coast needed forwards and they could get mckinley at 18, dont ya think they would pick him?
just giving u a hint.