Vic vs the World XI

[Im The Gun]

anyone know where they are playing?

[eddiesmith]

Last i heard was at the Albert Ground on Sunday

Probably hear more about it later in the week, assuming it is still going ahead

[Cupestar]

Last i heard was at the Albert Ground on Sunday

Probably hear more about it later in the week, assuming it is still going ahead

How do you get there?

[eddiesmith]

How do you get there?
Melbourne CC - Albert Ground

St.Kilda Road, Melbourne
Melway Ref 58 A5

http://premier.cricketvictoria.com.au/auth/main/sb/preview/stage/images/grounds/melbourne_-_the_albert.jpg

Thats the best I got, I believe there would be trams and stuff running past the ground

Never been there before and cant find my melways

*edit* Thought I would throw in a nice little picture as well. Looks a lot smaller than Junktion and practically no seating at all

With it being Hodgeys home ground, hopefully he makes some runs to put pressure on the selectors

[Partridge]

Melbourne CC - Albert Ground

St.Kilda Road, Melbourne
Melway Ref 58 A5

http://premier.cricketvictoria.com.au/auth/main/sb/preview/stage/images/grounds/melbourne_-_the_albert.jpg

Thats the best I got, I believe there would be trams and stuff running past the ground

Never been there before and cant find my melways

*edit* Thought I would throw in a nice little picture as well. Looks a lot smaller than Junktion and practically no seating at all

With it being Hodgeys home ground, hopefully he makes some runs to put pressure on the selectors

I thought I read it was at the Junction Oval on Sunday? Have to double check. Should be a good day though.

[usalion]

I thought I read it was at the Junction Oval on Sunday? Have to double check. Should be a good day though.

I think it was set at first for Junction but then moved for some reason....there was a thread a while back on this.

Nice pic, ed- so there's not seating- what about folks bringing folding chairs, blankets etc? If Junction is as bad as you say, why not look to put up temporary stands for a year and use a ground like this? Looks a bit like an English county "outer" ground- Hastings, Horsham, Southport etc. I reckon with proper arrangements, the VCA could have a nice second ground with an oval like this.

[Unwritten_Law]

Melbourne CC - Albert Ground

St.Kilda Road, Melbourne
Melway Ref 58 A5


It's opposite the swimming centre isn't it? I vaguely remember going for a swim in the morning and then heading over to watch a Victoria v. Australia game???

[Freo Big Fella]

Have got the benny hill theme cued to play during the game.

[~GURU~]

It's opposite the swimming centre isn't it? I vaguely remember going for a swim in the morning and then heading over to watch a Victoria v. Australia game???

its a few km's from the Swimming Centre. JUst jump on a tram going down St Kilda road and you will get there. Its quite away up.

[MRobbo]

The Match is back at the Junction Oval they are expecting a big crowd and managed to get the drainage work down in a few days so the game can go ahead there this sunday. I have just been talking to the Club Cricket Manager at Cricket Victoria that is how I found out. It is a normal 50 over a side game starting at 10am.

[eddiesmith]

Thanks MRobbo, thats much easier to get to and a chance of some seating

[Cleavy]

And it's FREE!!! :D

[bettsie]

Its opposite to a big bunch of tennis courts, just across the road from Commercial Rd.

[nicho_magic]

at the junction this w/e... anybody know the teams. junction is a fine oval a long way above the albert.

[eddiesmith]

My guess would be

White, Hodge, Moss, Hussey, Arnberger, Crosthwaite, Warne, Lewis, Harwood

Add a bowler (Wise? Some newcomer) and a batsman (Mash, Joseland, Dart or Innes?)

I just pray that Andrew McDonald doesnt play

[eddiesmith]

World XI will probably play a squad

Sehwag
Gayle
Dravid
Lara
Kallis
Pietersen
Flintoff
Afridi
Sangakarra
Pollock
Vettori- Imagine having the luxury of him at no11 :eek:

And Murali, Ntini and Ahktar would come on to bowl and a couple of batsman will sit out

[Im The Gun]

How do you get there?
best known to AFL fans as Brisbanes melbourne training base.
It's across the road from the Grand View hotel between Kings Way & St. Kilda Rd, best way to get there is by tram down St Kilda rd to the grand view.

[nicho_magic]

My guess would be

White, Hodge, Moss, Hussey, Arnberger, Crosthwaite, Warne, Lewis, Harwood

Add a bowler (Wise? Some newcomer) and a batsman (Mash, Joseland, Dart or Innes?)

I just pray that Andrew McDonald doesnt play
that batsmen you add i would say would be a jewell or a klinger or a rummans and i doubt arnberger will play. i would probably say that all 3 are a huge chance to play infact as i think the squad will be something like this

white, hodge, moss, hussey, klinger, rummans, jewell, crosthwaite, warne, lewis, harwood, wise... with possibly klinger to sit out, just my guess tho, and warne might not play leaving another spot for a bat, because they have a spinner. warne is playing for st kilda on saturday and i doubt he wants that big a load, i could be wrong.

[eddiesmith]

that batsmen you add i would say would be a jewell or a klinger or a rummans and i doubt arnberger will play. i would probably say that all 3 are a huge chance to play infact as i think the squad will be something like this

white, hodge, moss, hussey, klinger, rummans, jewell, crosthwaite, warne, lewis, harwood, wise... with possibly klinger to sit out, just my guess tho, and warne might not play leaving another spot for a bat, because they have a spinner. warne is playing for st kilda on saturday and i doubt he wants that big a load, i could be wrong.

Everyone is playing on the Saturday, anyway knew I was forgetting a couple, Jewell will definately play, Klinger I am not sure on, I thought he deserved another shot last year

Rummans? Oh please god, no

[nicho_magic]

Everyone is playing on the Saturday, anyway knew I was forgetting a couple, Jewell will definately play, Klinger I am not sure on, I thought he deserved another shot last year

Rummans? Oh please god, no
rummans is good, and will play, i know everyone is playing on the saturday but we are talking about s.k.warne here. a full english summer of cricket including the ashes. the last thing he would want is 2 games back to back on the first weekend he gets back.

[eddiesmith]

rummans is good, and will play, i know everyone is playing on the saturday but we are talking about s.k.warne here. a full english summer of cricket including the ashes. the last thing he would want is 2 games back to back on the first weekend he gets back.

Its only 2 1 dayers, then he has 2 weeks off before the Test

[nicho_magic]

Its only 2 1 dayers, then he has 2 weeks off before the Test
i know and he probably will play but still, gotta think of the work load the old sk.warne

[eddiesmith]

I know, but in a game between a State side and the best XI in the world, not just any touring side, we need all the help we can get :p

On Rummans, he is average, a Pura Cup player at best, but shouldnt be played in the One Day side. The order I would like is

Moss
Jewell
Hodge
D.Hussey
Klinger
White
Crosthwaite
Warne
Harwood
Lewis
Bowler- Most likely Wise, but I dont like him

[Cleavy]

I know, but in a game between a State side and the best XI in the world, not just any touring side, we need all the help we can get :p

On Rummans, he is average, a Pura Cup player at best, but shouldnt be played in the One Day side. The order I would like is

Moss
Jewell
Hodge
D.Hussey
Klinger
White
Crosthwaite
Warne
Harwood
Lewis
Bowler- Most likely Wise, but I dont like him

No spot for Tim Welsford? (or is he 12th man)

[nicho_magic]

I know, but in a game between a State side and the best XI in the world, not just any touring side, we need all the help we can get :p

On Rummans, he is average, a Pura Cup player at best, but shouldnt be played in the One Day side. The order I would like is

Moss
Jewell
Hodge
D.Hussey
Klinger
White
Crosthwaite
Warne
Harwood
Lewis
Bowler- Most likely Wise, but I dont like him
i think klinger won't be there, i would have to say they will pick rummans to add stability to that middle order. really they are one short of a bat in that line up as crosthwaite really isn't a true bat. i would say they will throw in another all rounder.

[eddiesmith]

i think klinger won't be there, i would have to say they will pick rummans to add stability to that middle order. really they are one short of a bat in that line up as crosthwaite really isn't a true bat. i would say they will throw in another all rounder.

I would argue we already have the 4 all rounders and bat all the way down to 9

ANother option out there is Hewett as the last bowler, and I believe he can bat alright, making us bat down to 10

[sfish54]

i hope Michael Klinger plays. He has scored the most runs in Premier cricket for the past two years. He deserves his chance and he is better than Jewell and Rummans. Remember he captained Michael Clarke when they were in the Australia under 19's.

[Cleavy]

Don't particularly want Rummans in the side, but it might be handy to have a left handed batsmen somewhere in the order

[nicho_magic]

Don't particularly want Rummans in the side, but it might be handy to have a left handed batsmen somewhere in the order
like it or not, i would say he will be out there.

[eddiesmith]

Why? We have plenty of better options

Rummans is the last resort imo

[eddiesmith]

Arnberger, Dart, Hussey, Jewell, Joseland, Klinger, Hodge, Moss, Welsford, White

10 batsman who are contracted and deserve a shot ahead of Rummans, and thats not counting rookies and uncontracted players who are also better than Rummans

[Hoggy]

Klinger and Dart are rubbish at national level.

[ben.carbonaro]

And it's FREE!!! :D

That's the best part.

[nicho_magic]

Arnberger, Dart, Hussey, Jewell, Joseland, Klinger, Hodge, Moss, Welsford, White

10 batsman who are contracted and deserve a shot ahead of Rummans, and thats not counting rookies and uncontracted players who are also better than Rummans
they need left handers... thats your opinion as well, not the state selectors opinion.

[Cleavy]

Team for the match:

1 Cameron White (capt), 2 Adam Crosthwaite, 3 Gerard Denton, 4 Shane Harwood, 5 Brad Hodge, 6 David Hussey, 7 Nick Jewell, 8 Michael Klinger, 9 Michael Lewis, 10 Jonathan Moss, 11 Rob Quiney, 12 Tim Welsford

[Hoggy]

So...

Jewell
Moss
Hodge
Hussey
Klinger
White
Quiney
Crosthwaite
Welsford
Harwood
Lewis
Denton


(providing they do that gay 11 bat, 11 field thing)

[eddiesmith]

Of course it will be 11 bat, 11 field, it allows the World XI to give most players a game

Funny that, no Rummans there.

RUMMANS IS NO ONE DAY BATSMAN :rolleyes:

[eddiesmith]

they need left handers... thats your opinion as well, not the state selectors opinion.

And our opinions are almost identical ;)

BTW, does anyone know anything about Rob Quiney?

[eddiesmith]

Quiney named for tilt at Dream Team
29/09/2005

Cricket in Victoria kicks off with a bang this weekend with Shane Warne and his Victorian teammates playing Premier Cricket on Saturday and the Bushrangers taking on the ICC Rest of the World team on Sunday.

Warnie will play his 51st first XI game for St Kilda -- and first since Cup Day 2001 -- against Essendon at Windy Hill as part of the National Long Live Club Cricket campaign.

This initiative aims to recognise and celebrate the role of Australia’s grade and premier cricket clubs who provide an important step in nurturing and developing elite cricketers on their road to state and national level.

Bushrangers skipper Cameron White, who has returned from Pakistan with his Australia A teammates Brad Hodge and Michael Lewis leads a strong Victorian side in Sunday's one-day match against the ICC Rest of the World XI at St Kilda's Junction Oval on Sunday.

Entry to the venue is free in what promises to be a great opportunity for fans to see many of the best players in the world at close range.

The Bushrangers have announced a near full strength team which also includes David Hussey and Jon Moss who have this week returned from their county cricket duties in England.


In what will be a dream debut, rookie batsman Rob Quiney from St Kilda will get his opportunity to bat against some of the world’s best bowlers including Shoaib Akhtar, Shaun Pollock, Andrew Flintoff and spinners Muthiah Muralidaran and Daniel Vettori. Quiney, at just 23, has played 60 Premier games for St Kilda and was one of the heroes of the Saints' 20004-05 premiership.

The Victorian squad is:


Cameron WHITE (c)

Adam CROSTHWAITE

Gerard DENTON

Shane HARWOOD

Brad HODGE

David HUSSEY

Nick JEWELL

Michael KLINGER

Michael LEWIS

Jonathan MOSS

Rob QUINEY

Tim WELSFORD


For coach Greg Shipperd, the practice match presents a wonderful opportunity. “For our group to be able to test their skills against the best in the world is indeed a rare opportunity. The players have indicated a real keenness for the contest and we hope that all supporters come and share the experience on what will be a day to remember,” he said.

[eddiesmith]

Quiney looking forward to debut
29/09/2005

By Andrew Wu, Sportal

The prospect of seeing Shoaib Akhtar at the top of his mark before he roars in to send a 100-mile-an-hour thunderbolt is enough to unsettle even the most experienced Test batsman, so imagine what St Kilda's Rob Quiney will be feeling when he makes his debut for Victoria against the World XI at the Junction Oval on Sunday.

Having only learnt earlier in the day while playing for the Victorian second XI that he would be making his Victorian debut against an attack featuring quality pacemen such as Shaun Pollock, Andrew Flintoff and Akhtar, the news had not yet sunk in for Quiney.

"I don't think it'll sink in till the night before," Quiney said on Thursday evening.

"I suppose I'll be nervous. I'll do whatever I can to get over my nerves and play the way I normally play."

Having not cemented his place in the St Kilda first XI until two seasons ago, the 23-year-old left-hander, who grew up idolising former captain Allan Border, has come a long way in a short time.

While he has played in two premierships with his club, he sees his selection for Victoria this Sunday as the equal to his club successes.

"To play a four-day game for Victoria would probably be the best thing but winning two premierships for St Kilda would probably be on par at the moment," he said.

"It means a fair bit. Three or four years ago I didn't think I'd be in the state side so I'm pretty happy."

Quiney, who stroked 407 runs at 40.70 last season for the Saints, identified former Victorian paceman David Saker, who he described as a genius with the new ball, as the best bowler he has faced so far but hopes that after Sunday he will have had a long enough stay in the middle to find a replacement.

"I hope I last long enough to say one's as good as the other. I hope I can come up with another answer after Sunday," he said.

[ben.carbonaro]

i hope Michael Klinger plays. He has scored the most runs in Premier cricket for the past two years. He deserves his chance and he is better than Jewell and Rummans. Remember he captained Michael Clarke when they were in the Australia under 19's.

Yeah, I have been hoping Klinger is given another opportunity for Victoria again after such consistant Premier cricket form with the bat.

[nicho_magic]

And our opinions are almost identical ;)

BTW, does anyone know anything about Rob Quiney?
yep, "bobby" as he is known down at the club is a left hander. Hits the ball bloody hard. Is currently rookie listed with cricket victoria, had a few good knocks on the young vics tour in england, and hit a 50 in the internal vics game. A very good young cricketer.

edit: good luck bobby!!!!

[thetigerman]

at the junction this w/e... anybody know the teams. junction is a fine oval a long way above the albert.


You're kidding, the Junction Oval is a disgrace, surely we the cricket public deserve a better venue.
Punt Rd is a better venue and should be used.
So come on Cricket Victoria fine a better venue.

[eddiesmith]

Punt Road is a disgrace and thats why they dumped it

Whats wrong with the Junktion? I bag it because we cant win there, but we have always struggled at every venue other than the MCG where we are undefeated for a few years running

[nicho_magic]

You're kidding, the Junction Oval is a disgrace, surely we the cricket public deserve a better venue.
Punt Rd is a better venue and should be used.
So come on Cricket Victoria fine a better venue.
hhahahaha , you have got to be joking yourself. punt roads surface is like playing in the desert, the surface is terrible.

i'm surprised a lawn bowling club hasn't applied for use of the junction it is that flat. The wicket is also amaising. don't know what your talking about mate. pt road is a disgrace

[Sidey_87]

What about Aiden Blizzard, the kid deserves a go.
He is the ideal one day player Victoria needs.

[eddiesmith]

Yeah but this week we are playing the BEST XI available players in the world, not a time for to many rookies

[ben.carbonaro]

What about Aiden Blizzard, the kid deserves a go.
He is the ideal one day player Victoria needs.

You make a good point, but I agree with Eddie.

We are playing a World XI, not a Cricket Australia match against a West Australia 2nd XI.

So Victoria needs to field the best team available.

[nicho_magic]

What about Aiden Blizzard, the kid deserves a go.
He is the ideal one day player Victoria needs.
he's gotta do something first

[ben.carbonaro]

He has, plenty of runs for the Victorian 2nd XI and a run a ball century for the Premier's XI against the VCCL on the MCG.

[nicho_magic]

He has, plenty of runs for the Victorian 2nd XI and a run a ball century for the Premier's XI against the VCCL on the MCG.
compared to nick jewell's three tons for vic 2nd XI and the other truckload of runs scored by all st kilda players (rummo, quiney, maxy) at premier level... sorry doesn't compete atm

[ben.carbonaro]

Good point.

Jewell should of been given more opportunities than what he has, 2nd XI form has been nothing short of outstanding.

[corporal]

I agree Eddiesmith (strangely)

Rummans is a friggen hack, good for a 178 ball 50 every 7th innings in the pura cup,

When he came over a couple of years ago I was very happy with the pickup, However I now truely hope he doesn't play for Victoria again.

[nicho_magic]

I agree Eddiesmith (strangely)

Rummans is a friggen hack, good for a 178 ball 50 every 7th innings in the pura cup,

When he came over a couple of years ago I was very happy with the pickup, However I now truely hope he doesn't play for Victoria again.
for a bloke who averaged 80+ at club level last year, you guys are being ridiculous, he is up to pura cup, and to say he isn't is a joke.

[ben.carbonaro]

Yeah, good point.

If you do that well at club level, you most certainly shold at least be given an opportunity to play at the Pura Cup level for your state.

[wez10000]

Just a Question, How many ppl can the Juntion Oval hold?

i have never been there before and will i have a chance of getting in around 10am or will it be full and they will start turning ppl away.

[ben.carbonaro]

Don't know an exact figure and don't think they would turn people away because there is plenty of room on the lawns around the ground, although almost certain that the grandstand would be full.

[eddiesmith]

What time does the game start? Is it 11:00?

Someone said they were expecting between 5-10,000

[ablettjnr]

Grant Lindsay from Geelong CC is in the 13 man squad and he will apparently play is Lewis doesn't.

[MRobbo]

What time does the game start? Is it 11:00?

Someone said they were expecting between 5-10,000


Session times for tomorrows game

10:00-1:30 1st Session
1:30-2:00 Lunch
2:00-5:30 2nd Session

[oaksy]

why isn't warney playing?

[Kid A]

Prediction for tomorrow: If Vic bat first, they'll make 8/245 in 50 overs and the World XI will chase it down in 44 with 4 wickets to spare.
If the XI bat first, they'll make 7/300 and Vic will make 9/255 in reply.
I actually don't know the state of the pitch so I'm assuming it's a reasonable one for batting.
I'm also assuming the World XI don't go all out. I know some (eg Flintoff) will be rested, and the rest will be looking for a nice lead-in anyway.

[nicho_magic]

Prediction for tomorrow: If Vic bat first, they'll make 8/245 in 50 overs and the World XI will chase it down in 44 with 4 wickets to spare.
If the XI bat first, they'll make 7/300 and Vic will make 9/255 in reply.
I actually don't know the state of the pitch so I'm assuming it's a reasonable one for batting.
I'm also assuming the World XI don't go all out. I know some (eg Flintoff) will be rested, and the rest will be looking for a nice lead-in anyway.
world XI ARE BATTING FIRST... to ensure there is some sort of game, should be one sided really but great experience for the vics, especially rob quiney in his first game for the vics... good luck bobby

[Cleavy]

World Team for tomorrow:
1 Shaun Pollock (capt), 2 Brian Lara (vice-capt), 3 Shahid Afridi, 4 Shoaib Akhtar, 5 Rahul Dravid, 6 Chris Gayle, 7 Jacques Kallis, 8 Muttiah Muralitharan, 9 Makhaya Ntini, 10 Kevin Pietersen, 11 Kumar Sangakkara, 12 Virender Sehwag

Flintoff and Vettori rested/left out.

[red+black]

So who's going? I need to get to the Flemington Swap Meet first, then race over to the Junction. Should be a great day.

[oaksy]

who do u think will be 12th man? i reckon afridi

[ManWithNoName]

I'm probably going, last game I went to was the Tsunami game so its got a lot to live up to.

[SBI]

who do u think will be 12th man? i reckon afridi

My guess is Dravid.

Has had a lot more match practice of late than Afridi and the other Pakistanis.

[MRobbo]

There is no such thing as 12th Man. I believe they are still using the Supersub rule.

[MRobbo]

ABC Radio is covering the game live from 12:10 EST to VIC,WA and TAS.
NSW,ACT and QLD may have some coverage depending on the rugby league bulid up. No coverage into SA and NT due to SANFL Grand Final Coverage.

3AW in Melbourne doing sports show from Junction Oval and Graham Bond will give updates during the day.

[big_sav]

are there any live scores on the net?

[Cleavy]

Batting first, the World XI was 1-68 after 13 overs. (taken from bushrangers.com.au) No live scores there.

[RaMa]

World XI 5-120 after 25 overs

Harwood 4/14

[Cleavy]

Harwood 4-17 (8ov) World XI 6/130-odd

[mcphee_is_a_gun]

Harwood 4-17 (8ov) World XI 6/130-odd
So world are treating as a hit and giggle then?

[SBI]

7-178 after 38.

Gayle stumped off White for 37.

[Squizza]

Where are you getting the scores from?

[sinepari]

I'm getting the impression that this concept will not work

[eddiesmith]

It will be funny when the World XI make more against the ********ty Australian attack than our all star Victorian attack

[eddiesmith]

7/249

Dravid doing the damage atm with about 60 odd not out

[eddiesmith]

8/258

Lewis picks up Dravid in the 49th over, Caught by White

Vettori in

Seems the teams have changed, World team are playing 13 and Victoria has another debutant

[eddiesmith]

8/281 I think it is off 50 overs

Pollock and Dravid rescued the World XI score with 50's

To the person who said this wont work, why? When you have Pollock and Vettori at 9 and 10, you are never going to fail to post a big score

[Awesome_Wells]

Come on Vics!!!

[eddiesmith]

It doesnt take long to remember why I hate ABC radio so much

******** THE NRL GRAND FINAL :mad:

[eddiesmith]

"Ball by Ball coverage of the Victoria v World XI game"

Yeah right, arrive when the World XI innings is almost over and they look doing the same to the Victorian Innings

[nicho_magic]

they can get the score, come on vics

[piefan]

It doesnt take long to remember why I hate ABC radio so much

******** THE NRL GRAND FINAL :mad:

It is a practice match. Grandstand broadcasts right around Australia and the biggest event today in Australia is the NRL.

So if Collingwood were in the GF Ed and NSW was playing the rest of the world would you be annoyed if they solely focused on the cricket? Of course you would.

The real stuff starts Wednesday

[eddiesmith]

Ahktar is on fire out there

Nothing better than a fit and firing Ahktar and unlike when he plays for Pakistan, there is plenty of players to keep the pressure on

[sinepari]

8/281 I think it is off 50 overs

Pollock and Dravid rescued the World XI score with 50's

To the person who said this wont work, why? When you have Pollock and Vettori at 9 and 10, you are never going to fail to post a big score

Because they don't want to play together.

[eddiesmith]

It is a practice match. Grandstand broadcasts right around Australia and the biggest event today in Australia is the NRL.

So if Collingwood were in the GF Ed and NSW was playing the rest of the world would you be annoyed if they solely focused on the cricket? Of course you would.

The real stuff starts Wednesday

No, the ABC broadcasts seperately into each state when they want to. SA and WA have the SANFL grand final, NSW and QLD the NRL and Victoria the cricket.

If that 2nd scenario was right, Vic would have the GF, NSW the cricket :rolleyes:

[Awesome_Wells]

Is there any online radio broadcasting the cricket?

[eddiesmith]

ABC Melbourne doesnt have an online link, you can only get the Sydney or Perth broadcasts

[eddiesmith]

Because they don't want to play together.

Barring the English players, everyone in that team has been beaten by Australia, most humiliated. Dont tell me they wont want to play together and beat the Aussies :rolleyes:

Blokes like Shoaib and Murali, superb bowlers for their country, yet they carry an attack will love playing with the support they have in this side

The World XI is a great concept :thumbsu:

[Awesome_Wells]

eddiesmith how are you getting the scores?

[eddiesmith]

On the radio, 774. They have finally gone back to the cricket then left for their stupid news

[Awesome_Wells]

Sweet thanks

[Cleavy]

Vics 1/30 atm (no idea what over we're in)

[eddiesmith]

I'm loving these commentators :thumbsu:

[peternorth]

ABC Melbourne doesnt have an online link, you can only get the Sydney or Perth broadcasts

Just got back from the cricket, only watched the world XI innings. Klinger took a marvellous diving catch to dismiss lara i think.

Awesome crowd, peterson, gilchrist, ponting masks were handed out, a bushranger mascot handed out fixtures (I think) flanked by 2 nice birds.

It sucks that 774 are streaming on the net!!!!!! :mad:

[Jaymin]

I'm loving these commentators :thumbsu:

Why aren't you there? Couldn't get your wheelchair down the stairs?