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One-eyed Tiger
7 Oct 2005, 01:57
The Tigers have come to terms on a trade for Western Bulldog Patrick Bowden, who will be reunited with his brother Joel at Punt Road. In the deal, the clubs will exchange fourth-round draft picks (the Bulldogs moving from 59 to 56) and the Dogs will pay a small amount of Bowden's modest contract.
http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2005/10/06/1128562944395.html
The Tigers have come to terms on a trade for Western Bulldog Patrick Bowden, who will be reunited with his brother Joel at Punt Road. In the deal, the clubs will exchange fourth-round draft picks (the Bulldogs moving from 59 to 56) and the Dogs will pay a small amount of Bowden's modest contract.
http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2005/10/06/1128562944395.html
Should have let him go last season when his stock was a little higher. The only reason I believe the Dogs kept him was so Richmond couldn't get him.
If all goes to what is planned for tomorrow The Bulldogs will be paying two players that are not on their list. Pretty dissapointing. :thumbsd:
Oh we're from..
7 Oct 2005, 02:13
Not a big fan of Patrick, but not really losing anything there. Glad we did something in trade week as well. Still time if anyone wants a raking left footer in the form of Tivendale?
Not a big fan of Patrick, but not really losing anything there. Glad we did something in trade week as well. Still time if anyone wants a raking left footer in the form of Tivendale?
You drop 3 places in the 4th round :p
Oh we're from..
7 Oct 2005, 02:19
You drop 3 places in the 4th round :p
Haha yes, will watch this pick 56 with interest in years to come.
It's not like Scott Clayton has a good record with later round picks or anything either...
Punt_Road_Roar
7 Oct 2005, 02:27
Gee it all makes sense now why we didnt chase Fevola any further ........
Move over Fev here comes P. Bowden :thumbsd:
Gee my mob must be hard up for a buck if we managed to convince the dogs to pay part of his contract still.
DynamoUltra
7 Oct 2005, 03:02
Wallace, Simmonds, Richo, Brown.
Nuff said.
davo dog
7 Oct 2005, 04:18
Wallace, Simmonds, Richo, Brown.
Nuff said.
what are you trying to say,these guys are at tiggerland for the love of the club $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ :thumbsu: :D
tigers1au
7 Oct 2005, 07:52
off topic now but... I thought Wallace left the Bulldogs because he and Smorgon had a fight(not physical) after Smorgon started making cutbacks in Terry's coaching staff.
Brown left not for money, in fact he could have gotten more at collingwood, rather he left because of what happened to Terry and joined the Tiges because he had mates there.
Richo is there for money? that's just stupid.
Simmonds wanted a long term deal and Richmond were the only ones willing to offer it.
Rodney Eade despises lazy unaccountable inconsistent players like P.Bowden and would be happy just to be rid of him regardless of the very very small compensation.
A big loss for Werribee Football Club.
Swifty_446
7 Oct 2005, 08:10
I hope he goes well at Richmond, he showed glimpses down at the Dogs, but never seemed to take the next step. Maybe playing alongside Joel might push him on.
tiggy train
7 Oct 2005, 09:00
Would Be A Nice Cheap Pick And To Say Richo Is There For The $ Is An Outrge One Of The Best Clubman U Could Find
One year contract, of which the Dogs will pay a small part, and nothing really given up to get him so it's there's not much to lose if he doesn't work out.
MrMorris
7 Oct 2005, 09:35
bowden is only on a small contract so we wouldnt have to do much . I hope bowden goes well at richmond he has the talent hopefully wallace can get the best outa him. And doggies want that pick to get either Hugh Minson or Podsiadly
cschreuder61
7 Oct 2005, 09:36
off topic now but... I thought Wallace left the Bulldogs because he and Smorgon had a fight(not physical) after Smorgon started making cutbacks in Terry's coaching staff.
Brown left not for money, in fact he could have gotten more at collingwood, rather he left because of what happened to Terry and joined the Tiges because he had mates there.
Richo is there for money? that's just stupid.
Simmonds wanted a long term deal and Richmond were the only ones willing to offer it.
Wallace left because he said he had "lost the passion to coach the bulldogs", and then the players voted him off before the last game because they were angry with them
Brown left because he wanted to play in a successful side under a good coach (looks like bulldogs at the moment over richmond)
Simmonds chased security/money, same thing really
Richo... he's been there the whole time so I wouldn't think that he is chasing money at all. The other three may have cases to answer however.
Rodney Eade despises lazy unaccountable inconsistent players like P.Bowden and would be happy just to be rid of him regardless of the very very small compensation.
A big loss for Werribee Football Club.
Dogs couldn't delist him without paying him out.
Presuming he was on $150k and that the Dogs are paying $50k and Richmond $100k - what the Dogs get out of the deal is $100k in savings, the picks are irrelevant.
Richmond get to keep their PSD pick and don't have to spend it on Bowden. The $100k isn't much to us because we are at close to the minimum cap anyway.
We are a bit light on for tall forwards if Richo, Simmonds or Stafford gets hurt so Bowden is cheap insurance. Also means that the guy we pick at 8 in the draft gets a one year apprenticeship while Bowden takes the punishment.
turtle27
7 Oct 2005, 09:44
what are you trying to say,these guys are at tiggerland for the love of the club $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ :thumbsu: :DC'mon davo, you've posted a fair degree of crap about the tigs in your time, but to say Richo is playing for the cash is akin to saying West and Grant do. That's just stupid.
Not prepared to argue about the other three though ;)
itsintheblood
7 Oct 2005, 11:02
Should have let him go last season when his stock was a little higher. The only reason I believe the Dogs kept him was so Richmond couldn't get him.
If all goes to what is planned for tomorrow The Bulldogs will be paying two players that are not on their list. Pretty dissapointing. :thumbsd:
You guys rated him very highly last year and wanted the earth for him. Now you can take what you're given AND pay some of his wage too thanks very much.
Why are Richmond and Bulldogs named in the trade deal?
It's Werribee and Coburg.
Have you not seen him play?
JeNnO_powerfreak_21
7 Oct 2005, 11:12
I'm good mates with the Bowdens brother, Last year Richmond were also interested in Pat. Good on him!
turtle27
7 Oct 2005, 11:15
I'm good mates with the Bowdens brother, Last year Richmond were also interested in Pat. Good on him!Which brother
You guys rated him very highly last year and wanted the earth for him. Now you can take what you're given AND pay some of his wage too thanks very much.
Idiot :confused:
You guys rated him very highly last year and wanted the earth for him. Now you can take what you're given AND pay some of his wage too thanks very much.
We didn't rate him highly at all. We just rejected your rubbish offer (trading up from pick 39 to pick 37) in the folorn hope that he will have an cracker season in 2005, therefore driving his trade value up. Now I guess we will have to accept your equally rubbish offer this time around.
You guys rated him very highly last year and wanted the earth for him. Now you can take what you're given AND pay some of his wage too thanks very much.
Eade didn't rate him,just offered him the chance to establish himself.
He failed miserably.
itsintheblood
7 Oct 2005, 11:29
Idiot :confused:
Why??? Is what I said untrue??? Would you like me to did up some old bulldog posts from last year and embarrass you?
borissey
7 Oct 2005, 11:30
Lets be fair.
Bowden is good when he is 25 metres out from goal without pressure.
Talk about a nothing trade!
We didn't rate him highly at all. We just rejected your rubbish offer (trading up from pick 39 to pick 37) in the folorn hope that he will have an cracker season in 2005, therefore driving his trade value up. Now I guess we will have to accept your equally rubbish offer this time around.
It won't hurt the Bulldogs. Free up 100K and get rid of some dead wood weighing us down. But since he had one year left I would have rather kept him than give him for free. Oh well.
I doubt he'll play any senior football at Richmond either. They have a big forward line already. I just can't see how Bowden would fit in.
Why??? Is what I said untrue??? Would you like me to did up some old bulldog posts from last year and embarrass you?
You can if you want. I don't care. Most people did rate him last off-season. I know I was one of them. There were a lot of others too. He had a pretty decent year in 2004. 2005 was a real eye opener for Bulldogs supporters though.
Any official confirmation of this, or is it just what the Age has said?
I feel he's worth more than that... not too happy, we could have got a third rounder for him.
He's got all the talent needed. I was hoping if he stayed, he could make something for himself at CHB.
Disappointed we didn't drive a harder bargain if this is the case.
TigerFan
7 Oct 2005, 11:53
Coburg will be delighted
Any official confirmation of this, or is it just what the Age has said?
I feel he's worth more than that... not too happy, we could have got a third rounder for him.
He's got all the talent needed. I was hoping if he stayed, he could make something for himself at CHB.
Disappointed we didn't drive a harder bargain if this is the case.
Interest for Bowden was luke warm last year, after he had a good season in 04. After only 8 games this year its obviously gone down. Having said that I would've thought a late 3rd or early 4th round pick would've been a bit high but worth a punt.
Disappointed we didn't drive a harder bargain if this is the case.
They couldn't play hard ball with Richmond or any other club. Eade wanted him out! Everyone knew that.
Official - SEN
For pick 56.
turtle27
7 Oct 2005, 12:07
Yep just confirmed on SEN
mattyc2422
7 Oct 2005, 12:08
Nil all draw really.
So does that mean the Dogs still have Pick 59? I was under the impression that it was Bowden and 59 for pick 56.
turtle27
7 Oct 2005, 12:16
So does that mean the Dogs still have Pick 59? I was under the impression that it was Bowden and 59 for pick 56.Just a direct swap G-M, Bowden for pick 56, so yes the Dogs will still have pick 59
Footscray_Fan87
7 Oct 2005, 12:16
no we trade bowden and pick 59, for pick 56
so in reality, we lost bowden for 3 places higher in the draft
no we trade bowden and pick 59, for pick 56
so in reality, we lost bowden for 3 places higher in the draft
They just said on SEN it was a straight swap. So by the looks of it we keep 59.
Footscray_Fan87
7 Oct 2005, 12:19
ahhh ok
sounds alright
least we get rid of some deadwood
what's the bet now he will flourish under wallet :(
what's the bet now he will flourish under wallet :(
I doubt it.
I just think there is not a place for him in Richmond's already tall forward line. But you never know.
Footscray_Fan87
7 Oct 2005, 12:23
so are we also paying a percentage of his wage? i'll be very dissapointed if we are, because although his crap, he probably justified a higher pick than 56, especially in a weak draft
Greg Miller has already stated that he only intends using up to a third round pick this season with such a shallow draft. So in the end we picked up Bowden for nothing since we were'nt going to use the 4th rnd pick anyway.
So in the end we picked up Bowden for nothing since we were'nt going to use the 4th rnd pick anyway.
And you get what you pay for...
bullish23
7 Oct 2005, 13:56
so are we also paying a percentage of his wage? i'll be very dissapointed if we are, because although his crap, he probably justified a higher pick than 56, especially in a weak draft
Only paying a small proportion. Won't make much difference. Is only contracted for another year.