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ultimate hater
9 Aug 2007, 14:41
i feel we have been hit the hardest with injury this year by a mile every week for the past 8-9 weeks we have been missing 6-8 good senior players.
but you only won 1 game (beat OH by 12points..) out of the first 5 this season?? do you have excuses for then also?
ultimate hater
9 Aug 2007, 14:45
Not really we just werent playing good football still had a few out as well but look out for next year with a good recruitment campaign and with the best group of young players in the comp we will be a force next year.
stick to viewing the posts champ..
Il Naso De Gastev
9 Aug 2007, 14:45
Not really Hornet, there are only four games to go and i feel strongly that this will be the ladder if any change it will be between COLL going to third and OI going to 4, maybe OS to 6 UB to 5 thats it, trust me its a good ladder
Dee, are you some kind of clairvoyant?? Can't believe you could get the ladder so close. How do you do it??
From where I sit, would it be better if the VAFA did this: Channel 31(the Tv community channel) to show the grand final as well as the 3 radio stations-Southern FM 88.3, 96.5 Inner FM, NorthWest FM 98.9 in an joint TV-radio live broadcast/telecast to viewers and listeners throughout Melbourne and outer areas plus the live streaming webcast on the VAFA website to people throughout Australia and to the world.
JG Hornet
9 Aug 2007, 16:45
Jase you have to stop asking so many bloody questions and posing so many scenarios! You're doing my head in! This isn't Parliament!
ultimate hater
9 Aug 2007, 16:54
he's tackling the big issues.. "think globally, act locally.."
YEA YEA YEA **** the ladder **** the reports lets look at this weeks matches
OB to beat UB
OS to upset the OX in a close one
Coll to beat the B Graders Trinity
De La to Smash OH
OI to beat the Bernies
Good luck to all
accurate1
10 Aug 2007, 00:51
lets get a few facts straight - st bernards have a heap of players out and played six U19s against Collegians as well as several who got hurt during the game resulting in a terrible last qtr - No 20 for Bernards did not make contact off the ball but in play & will get off. Collegians sniped their way through both Reserves & Seniors & then sooked everytime they were confronted. Typical of their culture. Now the news that will emerge soon is that the club will be cited for their disgraceful racial vilification of bernards Japanese player in the Reserves coming from both Collegians Reserves players and Senior players & supporters.
chelsworthgale
10 Aug 2007, 09:31
lets get a few facts straight - st bernards have a heap of players out and played six U19s against Collegians as well as several who got hurt during the game resulting in a terrible last qtr - No 20 for Bernards did not make contact off the ball but in play & will get off. Collegians sniped their way through both Reserves & Seniors & then sooked everytime they were confronted. Typical of their culture. Now the news that will emerge soon is that the club will be cited for their disgraceful racial vilification of bernards Japanese player in the Reserves coming from both Collegians Reserves players and Senior players & supporters.
bias view in my eyes... the hornets view must be respected as SMG suggests... to me it seems your plucking at straws for excuses...
anyway tips for this week:
OB to beat UB
OX to beat OS
COLL to beat OT
DLS to beat OH
OI to beat STB
Gil McLaughlins Horse
10 Aug 2007, 10:20
What a disgrace...absolute disgrace.
The collegians football club should be ashamed of themselves. What a pathetic excuse for a football team they are. To force the Amateurs into investigating a Stb player for attempting to strike. I saw the video last night...pitiful.
...then for the racial revelations to come out...
All i can say is this...if you think there was sniping last week...you wont know what will hit you next year...
What a bunch of toerags!!!
The Big Pineapple
10 Aug 2007, 10:24
Congratulations to all of you... you have won 'Most Boring VAFA Topic of 2007.'
Well done... now move on!!!
Slay Master G
10 Aug 2007, 10:43
What a disgrace...absolute disgrace.
The collegians football club should be ashamed of themselves. What a pathetic excuse for a football team they are. To force the Amateurs into investigating a Stb player for attempting to strike. I saw the video last night...pitiful.
...then for the racial revelations to come out...
All i can say is this...if you think there was sniping last week...you wont know what will hit you next year...
What a bunch of toerags!!!
Mr Horse
The bolded part of the quote is typical gutless crap that I have come to expect from you.
The allegation has been made, one bloke has a broken jaw (attempting to strike? did the wind from #20's haymaker break his jaw...?), Bernard's have a dented ego after a drubbing and pathetic performance. The VAFA investigation will take it's course.
As for the racist part, I don't know anything about it but if it did happen then I agree, it is disgraceful.
I doubt that Collegians people are that stupid to racially abuse a young fella having a crack.
You had better hope you improve your performance or else next year may be spent in B Grade. I look forward to another embarrassing performance next year if you stay up. Good luck with that.
As for my tips..... 5 from 5 last week.
OB
OS
Coll
DLS
OI
Plumber
10 Aug 2007, 10:45
What a disgrace...absolute disgrace.
The collegians football club should be ashamed of themselves. What a pathetic excuse for a football team they are. To force the Amateurs into investigating a Stb player for attempting to strike. I saw the video last night...pitiful.
...then for the racial revelations to come out...
All i can say is this...if you think there was sniping last week...you wont know what will hit you next year...
What a bunch of toerags!!!
Settle down Gil, you have been drinking too much water from the Maribyrnong River and now your poo breath is becoming difficult to bear.
Gil McLaughlins Horse
10 Aug 2007, 11:32
Mr Horse
The bolded part of the quote is typical gutless crap that I have come to expect from you.
The allegation has been made, one bloke has a broken jaw (attempting to strike? did the wind from #20's haymaker break his jaw...?), Bernard's have a dented ego after a drubbing and pathetic performance. The VAFA investigation will take it's course.
As for the racist part, I don't know anything about it but if it did happen then I agree, it is disgraceful.
I doubt that Collegians people are that stupid to racially abuse a young fella having a crack.
You had better hope you improve your performance or else next year may be spent in B Grade. I look forward to another embarrassing performance next year if you stay up. Good luck with that.
As for my tips..... 5 from 5 last week.
OB
OS
Coll
DLS
OI
Mr Slayer...
The attempting to strike allegations have nothing to do with the incident that resulted in your player unfortunately receiving a broken jaw, or the player you mentioned. Its a seperate incident which is laughable at best. Even the ammos have commented how petty it is.
ultimate hater
10 Aug 2007, 11:58
enough about the 80 different incidents from the collegians/stb game.. no-one has any facts, its reading like acka's article on "superman"...
having said that, i did enjoy hornets spray of Stb in this weeks record.. and can anyone answer my question about where to find previous records on the vafa website?? the links seem to have dissappeared???
a few ppl are tipping OS for the upset.. this could cause headaches for xavs as i'm sure they would be wanting a double chance draw come finals time, and they do have a veyr tough draw! scotch away, ivanhoe away, uni home, collegians away.. if they don't win another game they could even find themselves having a holiday in september!! :eek: imagine that!!
holding
10 Aug 2007, 12:53
OB
OS
Coll
DLS
OI
Well tipped fella
Slay Master G
10 Aug 2007, 12:55
Mr Slayer...
The attempting to strike allegations have nothing to do with the incident that resulted in your player unfortunately receiving a broken jaw, or the player you mentioned. Its a seperate incident which is laughable at best. Even the ammos have commented how petty it is.
Jaws don't break themselves.
Gil McLaughlins Horse
10 Aug 2007, 13:00
Its a seperate incident dipsh*t. Read the post.
ultimate hater
10 Aug 2007, 13:02
Its a seperate incident dipsh*t. Read the post.
so you're saying stb were throwing plenty? or were trying to at least?
not that i really care.. stb are sh1t..
Slay Master G
10 Aug 2007, 13:23
Its a seperate incident dipsh*t. Read the post.
Knob jockey,
You wrote that the separate incident, in which a jaw was broken, was "laughable at best". How is it laughable?? No contact..?
That's why I stated that jaws don't break themselves.
Get my drift.....
Gil McLaughlins Horse
10 Aug 2007, 14:00
Mr Slayer...
The attempting to strike allegations have nothing to do with the incident that resulted in your player unfortunately receiving a broken jaw, or the player you mentioned. Its a seperate incident which is laughable at best. Even the ammos have commented how petty it is.
...once again read the post.
Too many tennis lessons, not enough english lessons down at Collegians.
Frederik Kanoute
10 Aug 2007, 16:57
anyway to this weeks games.....
ox
ob
oc
dls
stb
Slay Master G
10 Aug 2007, 17:14
...once again read the post.
Too many tennis lessons, not enough english lessons down at Collegians.
OK.
To quote you: "The attempting to strike allegations have nothing to do with the incident that resulted in your player unfortunately receiving a broken jaw, or the player you mentioned. Its a seperate incident which is laughable at best."
My interpretation:
There are two or more attempting to strike incidents or allegations. Neither of these are the broken jaw incident we have been talking about. The broken jaw incident is a separate incident which you believe is laughable at best.
Surely this is a sensible way of interpreting your post...?
ultimate hater
10 Aug 2007, 17:39
OK.
To quote you: "The attempting to strike allegations have nothing to do with the incident that resulted in your player unfortunately receiving a broken jaw, or the player you mentioned. Its a seperate incident which is laughable at best."
My interpretation:
There are two or more attempting to strike incidents or allegations. Neither of these are the broken jaw incident we have been talking about. The broken jaw incident is a separate incident which you believe is laughable at best.
Surely this is a sensible way of interpreting your post...?
come on ladies.. as TBP has already mentioned, this has become very boring....
Joe Dirt
10 Aug 2007, 19:45
SMG, jaws don't break themselves, but they are not always dirty incidents. Ie, Giansiracusa/Kosi
Xavs,
Brighton
Collegians
De La
Ivanhoe
MurphysLaw
10 Aug 2007, 20:30
As for the racist part, I don't know anything about it but if it did happen then I agree, it is disgraceful.
I doubt that Collegians people are that stupid to racially abuse a young fella having a crack.
SMG- I can confirm that a complaint has been lodged with collegians about the racial villification of a St Bernards player (reserves player number #52).
Just throwing this out there.... are there any other teams in A-grade (other than OC's) that have felt the need to send in a video to the ammo's about a game...? I'm sure most teams could sort thru hours of tapes and find late bumps, charges, trips, striking and 'attempted striking' (not going to bother with examples). I honestly feel sorry for the bloke who had his jaw broken and will miss games/finals etc but would not be good for the comp if this (sending in video's to the ammo's) continues to happen and blokes miss out on finals because of it.
...then again, mabye all this maribynong river water has gone to my head.
chelsworthgale
11 Aug 2007, 16:08
As for the racist part, I don't know anything about it but if it did happen then I agree, it is disgraceful.
I doubt that Collegians people are that stupid to racially abuse a young fella having a crack.
SMG- I can confirm that a complaint has been lodged with collegians about the racial villification of a St Bernards player (reserves player number #52).
Just throwing this out there.... are there any other teams in A-grade (other than OC's) that have felt the need to send in a video to the ammo's about a game...? I'm sure most teams could sort thru hours of tapes and find late bumps, charges, trips, striking and 'attempted striking' (not going to bother with examples). I honestly feel sorry for the bloke who had his jaw broken and will miss games/finals etc but would not be good for the comp if this (sending in video's to the ammo's) continues to happen and blokes miss out on finals because of it.
...then again, mabye all this maribynong river water has gone to my head.
remember my ties pretty obvious, and without seeing the tape....
if the blokes jaw is broken and it is behind the play one needs to question incident... Collegians aren't morons, by sending the tape in there seems to be some mallace involved in the incident. VAFA HQ will sort this incident in the investigation!
Just let it rest now!
chelsworthgale
13 Aug 2007, 14:03
seems the investigation has resulted in a tribunal appearance... IF there is a funny side of things they have called the Collegians bloke to the tribunal I dont know how much he will be able to say :p:D
Something of slightly more interest to the wider A grade audience must be the battle for 4th as well as 8th spots.
Collegians 36 points and 114% play OH (@HQ), Brighton (Beach), and Xavs (Trott).
Uni Blues 32 points and 121.7% play OS (Uni), Xavs (Stradbroke Pk!), and De La (Dairy).
Collegians should be able to win and boost their % against Haileybury, but then they may have to win another to seal 4th spot. I reckon there's a good chance Uni could sneak in even if they lose one of their last 3.
Down south end, Trinity's win over Collegians adds massive spice to their clash at Bulleen this weekend with a battling St Bernards unit. The Dogs haven't had much joy on the Daley over the last 7 years, and losing this one would see them slip to 9th. Having said that, Scotch could still get relegated if they can't win one of their last 3 either (as long as Trinity knocks off Bernies this weekend).
It may all come down to Bernies -v- Scotch at the Pit in rd 18.
Scotch 24 pts and 92.4% play Uni (A), De La (H), and St Bernards (A)
St Bernards 24 pts and 90.4% play Trinity (A), Haileybury (A) and Scotch (H)
Old Trinity 20 pts and 90.2% play St Bernards (H), Old Ivanhoe (A) and Brighton (H).
Trinity have a good record against Old Ivanhoe, and may meet Old Brighton with their 2nd semi slot secured.
Thoughts anyone?
The Tiger's Nuts
13 Aug 2007, 14:54
Thoughts anyone?
Such insight and penetrating analysis should see you writing up the A section notes in next year's rag. Top effort.
Jascave
13 Aug 2007, 17:00
I still think it will be an Old Brighton-Old Xaverians match-up in this year's Grand Final. Just out of interest-who will play off in the A Section Reserves Grand Final?
holding
13 Aug 2007, 18:30
I still feel OT will take the Drop this year with OH
As far as the reserves go i reckon you might see a OB VS Xavs GF (Uni might sneek in but i doubt it)
Benny MOF
14 Aug 2007, 11:19
Mark Graham retires from Xavs and football.
Word is he was told by the President of Xavs in no uncertain terms that he was on the verge of being dropped and gave him the option of a graceful exit.
Love the Xavs PR machine getting it on the VAFA website before the whispers started.....
Monkeyboy
14 Aug 2007, 11:51
Mark Graham retires from Xavs and football.
Word is he was told by the President of Xavs in no uncertain terms that he was on the verge of being dropped and gave him the option of a graceful exit.
Love the Xavs PR machine getting it on the VAFA website before the whispers started.....
I know someone who will find this very entertaining...........Speaking....
ultimate hater
14 Aug 2007, 12:58
any info on the collegians game?? how'd they loose to trinity? i thought they were claiming the only reason they were losing was because they had a couple of guys out that were back for the trinity game and they come out with a loss??
or was it because there was no wind on the weekend? i know that with trinity's combined team weight of 146kgs they struggle when there is a stiff breeze... seriously, they are one bunch of skinny lads.. - I did see an opposition player get stabbed in the chest by one of the trinity players elbow.. not a pretty sight..
soupsey
14 Aug 2007, 13:36
Word is? Where did it come from? Like a deer with no eyes mate! Don't make stuff up, it's not becoming.
ultimate hater
14 Aug 2007, 14:24
Word is? Where did it come from? Like a deer with no eyes mate! Don't make stuff up, it's not becoming.
what are you on about soupsey?
soupsey
14 Aug 2007, 16:05
Sorry Hater, just replying to Benny MOF and his innacurate ramblings.
Benny MOF
14 Aug 2007, 16:57
Sorry Hater, just replying to Benny MOF and his innacurate ramblings.
A person close to the OX committee told me, it is my duty to tell VAFA people the truth.
Do you think that if a player from any other club retired on the eve of the finals it would have made the VAFA website....? No, because Mick Sholly didn't coach the club.....
It was not a "bottle of wine" retirement, he was pushed.
Paul Kaos
14 Aug 2007, 17:50
A person close to the OX committee told me, it is my duty to tell VAFA people the truth.
Do you think that if a player from any other club retired on the eve of the finals it would have made the VAFA website....? No, because Mick Sholly didn't coach the club.....
It was not a "bottle of wine" retirement, he was pushed.
You're a peanut Benny. Did your close to the committee contact tell you that he hadn't played about the last 5 games prior to retiring because of work commitments?
Why would they force a 240 plus game AFL player to retire? Be handy to have him available for finals if needed.
CrustyClown
14 Aug 2007, 18:45
A person close to the OX committee told me, it is my duty to tell VAFA people the truth.
Do you think that if a player from any other club retired on the eve of the finals it would have made the VAFA website....? No, because Mick Sholly didn't coach the club.....
It was not a "bottle of wine" retirement, he was pushed.
I heard the same too MOF. In terms of the Xavs team, if he is not fit they are better without him. A 240 gamer would not want to finish his career with a ressies GF loss or maybe even worse, being remembered in a ressies premiership photo. Wouldn't surprise me if OX pushed him to avoid embarrassment to the club (of such a big signing only 1 1/2 years ago fading into obscurity) and the player (ending his career in the VAFA 2's).
The Xavs PR dept use their website (and the VAFA's) to great effect so Kaos, please don’t try to tell us that he wasn't pushed. No one retires on the eve of a 2nd semi. Work commitments? Please!
CrustyClown
14 Aug 2007, 18:46
A person close to the OX committee told me, it is my duty to tell VAFA people the truth.
Do you think that if a player from any other club retired on the eve of the finals it would have made the VAFA website....? No, because Mick Sholly didn't coach the club.....
It was not a "bottle of wine" retirement, he was pushed.
I heard the same too MOF. In terms of the Xavs team, if he is not fit they are better without him. A 240 gamer would not want to finish his career with a ressies GF loss or maybe even worse, being remembered in a ressies premiership photo. Wouldn't surprise me if OX pushed him to avoid embarrassment to the club (of such a big signing only 1 1/2 years ago fading into obscurity) and the player (ending his career in the VAFA 2's).
The Xavs PR dept use their website (and the VAFA's) to great effect so Kaos, please don’t try to tell us that he wasn't pushed. No one retires on the eve of a 2nd semi. Work commitments? Please!
BrianSpeaking
14 Aug 2007, 21:09
I know someone who will find this very entertaining...........Speaking....
Monk, quite ironic hey? Been saying this for 2 years.http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif
Jascave
14 Aug 2007, 21:35
Why would Old Xaverians announce Mark Graham's 'retirement' on the VAFA website, when it could've been done on its own website? I reckon this might come back to haunt Old Xaverians, especially on A Section Grand Final Day.
Max Leader
14 Aug 2007, 23:04
Why would Old Xaverians announce Mark Graham's 'retirement' on the VAFA website, when it could've been done on its own website? I reckon this might come back to haunt Old Xaverians, especially on A Section Grand Final Day.
Learn to use the internet dweeb. It was announced last week on the OX website on the 10th.
I don't think OX will be losing too much sleep over whether one M. Graham is playing on that day.
They still have to get there!!
BrianSpeaking
14 Aug 2007, 23:04
Why would Old Xaverians announce Mark Graham's 'retirement' on the VAFA website, when it could've been done on its own website? I reckon this might come back to haunt Old Xaverians, especially on A Section Grand Final Day.
jase, they need to get there firsthttp://www.bigfooty.com/forum/images/icons/icon12.gif
chelsworthgale
14 Aug 2007, 23:20
cant be bothered tramping through the past posts but who was the clown trying to tell us all that "we should go say what ever to Grahams face" blah blah all because certain few of us were suggesting that it had all past him... hmmm makes that person look even more like a clown now!
chelsworthgale
14 Aug 2007, 23:25
Old Xavs must be very disappointed with Mark Graham. He looks very disinterested when on the field.
Definitely not the sort of bloke that fits in to the Xavs culture, or even the Ammo culture in my opinion.
I think Xavs would be better off dropping him to the Crocs and giving somebody who actually wants to represent the club a go, maybe even a young kid.
SMG can you pull out your crystal ball again and give you GF day finalists and the overall winner... once I have this info my next visit will be the punting ring to drop a few dollars... btw the clown was Mister X... couldn't help myself had to look!
Monkeyboy
14 Aug 2007, 23:28
Disappointing when a great career finishes. Work committments can be hard to overcome in AMMOS for a family man. I guess over the past 4-5 weeks the writing was on the wall that the end was close. Popular clubman who will be sorely missed by players, staff and supporters. Well done Grazer!
Slay Master G
15 Aug 2007, 10:27
SMG can you pull out your crystal ball again and give you GF day finalists and the overall winner... once I have this info my next visit will be the punting ring to drop a few dollars... btw the clown was Mister X... couldn't help myself had to look!
CG
I think OB are good things at the moment. However, never write off Xavs in September, especially now that they will have 22 committed players in the team instead of 21.
Despite this, if the weather is wet, I see Old Ivanhoe as a big threat to either of the above.
Collegians have fallen victim to their lack of depth and may miss out on September action.
Uni Blues have a number of good players but drop away quickly in their 15th - 22nd players selected.
My tip: Old Xaverians to defeat Old Brighton, with OI to finish 3rd.
If it is wet on prelim final day, I can see OI making the big one and maybe even backing it up the follwing week. Especially if Chanz Crowley brings back his bowl cut.
Also, could St.Bernard's be overtaken by OT at the other end of the ladder and be relegated to B section? It would sting them even more to be relegated if local rivals Old Essendon get promoted.
Paul Kaos
15 Aug 2007, 10:53
I heard the same too MOF. In terms of the Xavs team, if he is not fit they are better without him. A 240 gamer would not want to finish his career with a ressies GF loss or maybe even worse, being remembered in a ressies premiership photo. Wouldn't surprise me if OX pushed him to avoid embarrassment to the club (of such a big signing only 1 1/2 years ago fading into obscurity) and the player (ending his career in the VAFA 2's).
The Xavs PR dept use their website (and the VAFA's) to great effect so Kaos, please don’t try to tell us that he wasn't pushed. No one retires on the eve of a 2nd semi. Work commitments? Please!
Xavs PR dept..........I'm hoping that was a joke.
You clearly don't know Heebie or anything about Xavs. He wasn't pushed. Xavs plucked an u/19 player for last weeks game for the first time in at least 3 years. Why? Because there are quite a few injuries at the moment. Doesn't make sense to push an experienced player when finals are approaching and you have quite a few injuries.
As I said Crusty, he hadn't played the last 5 or so games prior to announcing his retirement. Fairly straight forward, and a non-issue really!
soupsey
15 Aug 2007, 10:58
Benny you tool!!!!! Unless you are ON the OX committee you would have no idea. Being "close" to the committee means nada. For example I am "close" to some OB players. Does that give me the inside running on the fact that they are terrified of the OX loss that they are waiting for? I think not.
Stay out of our A grade thread for now champ!
Slay Master G
15 Aug 2007, 11:02
Back to the incident in the St.Bernard's v. Colegians game the other week leading to a broken jaw, clearly the VAFA tribunal didn't think the incident was a joke, the offender got 4 weeks....
TRIBUNAL AND INVESTIGATION RESULTS
Results of Tribunal Hearings – Tuesday August 14, 2007
Simon Chatfield, St. Bernards. Striking, 4 matches.
Doni Valkanis, Ivanhoe. Striking, 2 matches.
Christopher Bartlett, St. Marys (Reserves). Attempting to make contact with an umpire, 6 matches.
*Paul Brennan, St Bedes Mentone Tigers. Striking, 2 matches.
*David Beckett, Ormond. Striking, 2 matches.
*Casey Poletti, Mazenod (Reserves). Misconduct, 2 matches.
*Accepted the prescribed penalty
Gil McLaughlins Horse
15 Aug 2007, 12:26
Back to the incident in the St.Bernard's v. Colegians game the other week leading to a broken jaw, clearly the VAFA tribunal didn't think the incident was a joke, the offender got 4 weeks....
TRIBUNAL AND INVESTIGATION RESULTS
Results of Tribunal Hearings – Tuesday August 14, 2007
Simon Chatfield, St. Bernards. Striking, 4 matches.
Doni Valkanis, Ivanhoe. Striking, 2 matches.
Christopher Bartlett, St. Marys (Reserves). Attempting to make contact with an umpire, 6 matches.
*Paul Brennan, St Bedes Mentone Tigers. Striking, 2 matches.
*David Beckett, Ormond. Striking, 2 matches.
*Casey Poletti, Mazenod (Reserves). Misconduct, 2 matches.
*Accepted the prescribed penalty
Slay,
Bernies will cop it on the chin.
Are we happy about it?...no!
Has Collegians opened a can of worms by sending in the tape and cracking the sulks?...yes
Have St bernards players got long memories?...like elephants!!!
Thanks Collegians for giving our players further incentive to stay in A grade...
No mention about the other charge they brought to the table which was laughed out of the tribunal...funny that.
chelsworthgale
15 Aug 2007, 12:38
Back to the incident in the St.Bernard's v. Colegians game the other week leading to a broken jaw, clearly the VAFA tribunal didn't think the incident was a joke, the offender got 4 weeks....
TRIBUNAL AND INVESTIGATION RESULTS
Results of Tribunal Hearings – Tuesday August 14, 2007
Simon Chatfield, St. Bernards. Striking, 4 matches.
Doni Valkanis, Ivanhoe. Striking, 2 matches.
Christopher Bartlett, St. Marys (Reserves). Attempting to make contact with an umpire, 6 matches.
*Paul Brennan, St Bedes Mentone Tigers. Striking, 2 matches.
*David Beckett, Ormond. Striking, 2 matches.
*Casey Poletti, Mazenod (Reserves). Misconduct, 2 matches.
*Accepted the prescribed penalty
Just out of curiosity with the bloke getting 4 weeks for an incident that happened the week before STB played against Ivanhoe 2 questions, he played against Ivanhoe, should there be a penalty against STB for playing a player under investigation? If so what penalty?
Just a passing thought not trying to stir the pot or anything
chelsworthgale
15 Aug 2007, 12:41
CG
If it is wet on prelim final day, I can see OI making the big one and maybe even backing it up the follwing week. Especially if Chanz Crowley brings back his bowl cut.
The man with the best bouffant in the VAFA is returning to form. After "doing a Brittney" earlier in the season he his form has inproved with his locks returing to their immaculate spring loaded length.
Gil McLaughlins Horse
15 Aug 2007, 12:47
Just out of curiosity with the bloke getting 4 weeks for an incident that happened the week before STB played against Ivanhoe 2 questions, he played against Ivanhoe, should there be a penalty against STB for playing a player under investigation? If so what penalty?
Just a passing thought not trying to stir the pot or anything
What a silly thing to say.
There were 2 guys up on investigation, and as i said the 2nd charge was laughed out of the tribunel. Why should StB be punished? Is it guilty until proven innocent in our society is it?
Slay Master G
15 Aug 2007, 13:14
Slay,
Has Collegians opened a can of worms by sending in the tape and cracking the sulks?...yes
Collegians should be commended for sticking up for their player and the sprit of the VAFA, he does have a broken jaw that will cost a substantial amount of money to repair.
Serious incidents such as these should be discouraged in our comp, we can't pay players but we can offer a relatively clean competition with less behind the play incidents than suburban leagues. If we these incidents as the norm then we set a dangerous precedent for or comp.
As for motivation, the Bernies need as much as they can get their hands on in the relegation fight.
ultimate hater
15 Aug 2007, 13:16
What a silly thing to say.
There were 2 guys up on investigation, and as i said the 2nd charge was laughed out of the tribunel. Why should StB be punished? Is it guilty until proven innocent in our society is it?
no, not silly horsey, you're getting a little worked up.. valid question really, can you play someone before a hearing is had? sure.. no reason not to play them..
ultimate hater
15 Aug 2007, 13:18
Benny you tool!!!!! Unless you are ON the OX committee you would have no idea. Being "close" to the committee means nada. For example I am "close" to some OB players. Does that give me the inside running on the fact that they are terrified of the OX loss that they are waiting for? I think not.
Stay out of our A grade thread for now champ!
no fact there soupsey..
The Big Pineapple
15 Aug 2007, 13:21
no, not silly horsey, you're getting a little worked up.. valid question really, can you play someone before a hearing is had? sure.. no reason not to play them..
The horse loves to get worked up... small man syndrome or something like that???
What I don't get is the red card system. Earlier this year one of our blokes was reported, sent off and not replaced. Turns out the umpire was a little caught up in the moment as video evidence showed the bump was a fraction late and only a free kick should have been paid. The bloke got off and was free to play the next week. What if an incident like this costs a team a spot in the finals or puts a team in the relegation zone because they were forced to play with 17? Surely a report and a trip to the tribunal is enough?
Dee Snider
15 Aug 2007, 13:34
What I don't get is the red card system. Earlier this year one of our blokes was reported, sent off and not replaced. Turns out the umpire was a little caught up in the moment as video evidence showed the bump was a fraction late and only a free kick should have been paid. The bloke got off and was free to play the next week. What if an incident like this costs a team a spot in the finals or puts a team in the relegation zone because they were forced to play with 17? Surely a report and a trip to the tribunal is enough?
Nice point TBP, and I totally agree with you.
In the 1999 Grand Final, Bulleen Temp had 3 players reported and sent off in the one quater. Ajax kicked 13 unanswered goals in 20 minutes (not a bad effort!) while BT were reduced to 15 men. Grand final all over. All 3 players cleared at subsequent tribunal hearing.
So an overly zealous umpire and the send off rule had much bigger implications than just costing a side a place in the finals. It cost a premiership.
The Tiger's Nuts
15 Aug 2007, 14:27
After the first sending-off the BT bench should have told their guys to cool it. If that's the way the umpire is going to play it, tighten up and show discipline. You don't get another two guys sent off by adjusting your game and focusing on the football.
Doesn't seem like the send-off rule at fault, the 13 unanswered goals sounds pretty self-inflicted.
There must have been a lot of spite involved, as umps are usually very laid back in terms of reporting GFs.
Not as much spite as shown in last weekend's U19-3 match when BT and Bentleigh had the game called off after an all-in bitchslap contest.
Conduct Unbecoming
15 Aug 2007, 14:36
After the first sending-off the BT bench should have told their guys to cool it. If that's the way the umpire is going to play it, tighten up and show discipline. You don't get another two guys sent off by adjusting your game and focusing on the football.
Doesn't seem like the send-off rule at fault, the 13 unanswered goals sounds pretty self-inflicted.
There must have been a lot of spite involved, as umps are usually very laid back in terms of reporting GFs.
Not as much spite as shown in last weekend's U19-3 match when BT and Bentleigh had the game called off after an all-in bitchslap contest.
Seems the Bentleigh kids had to battle BT players and spectators ...hardly a bitch-slap.
man in outer
15 Aug 2007, 15:00
Slay,
Bernies will cop it on the chin.
Are we happy about it?...no!
Has Collegians opened a can of worms by sending in the tape and cracking the sulks?...yes
Have St bernards players got long memories?...like elephants!!!
Thanks Collegians for giving our players further incentive to stay in A grade...
No mention about the other charge they brought to the table which was laughed out of the tribunal...funny that.
St B's being outraged at the fact their player who decked a bloke behind the play and broke his jaw is rubbed out explains why kids essendon cross the river to go kew for school.
kaiser sose
15 Aug 2007, 15:07
St B's being outraged at the fact their player who decked a bloke behind the play and broke his jaw is rubbed out explains why kids essendon cross the river to go kew for school.
Learn some proper English you moron. Which Kew school did you go to?
The Big Pineapple
15 Aug 2007, 15:09
After the first sending-off the BT bench should have told their guys to cool it. If that's the way the umpire is going to play it, tighten up and show discipline. You don't get another two guys sent off by adjusting your game and focusing on the football.
Doesn't seem like the send-off rule at fault, the 13 unanswered goals sounds pretty self-inflicted.
There must have been a lot of spite involved, as umps are usually very laid back in terms of reporting GFs.
Not as much spite as shown in last weekend's U19-3 match when BT and Bentleigh had the game called off after an all-in bitchslap contest.
But what about the case I mentioned above TTN?
kaiser sose
15 Aug 2007, 15:12
But what about the case I mentioned above TTN?
Ask the question on your B grade thread since it was a B grade game!
The Big Pineapple
15 Aug 2007, 15:16
Ask the question on your B grade thread since it was a B grade game!
Sorry precious! Like it really matters... seriously?
ultimate hater
15 Aug 2007, 15:41
Slay,
Bernies will cop it on the chin.
Are we happy about it?...no!
Has Collegians opened a can of worms by sending in the tape and cracking the sulks?...yes
Have St bernards players got long memories?...like elephants!!!
Thanks Collegians for giving our players further incentive to stay in A grade...
No mention about the other charge they brought to the table which was laughed out of the tribunal...funny that.
so all is good if i clobber you behind play without you looking, and as long as the ump didnt see i should get away with it?? jeeze i'd like to play against you guys with your own rules.. just take everyone out behind play because it's seems ok to do so in your books!! idiot... gosh....
sh1t, might as well put a boxer on the field and tell him to belt blokes in the head when the ump isnt looking.. hopefully break a jaw or two, and seeing as lots of clubs dont have insurance in the ammo's he can fork out his $5000 hospital bill if he doesn't have private!! you're on a good thing there gil.. give me some more insight into this great game you are doing so well at promoting..
D!CKHEAD!
The Tiger's Nuts
15 Aug 2007, 15:44
Sorry precious! Like it really matters... seriously?
It does to these guys. Their manhood feels threatened when lesser mortals invade their space. Imagine their chagrin next year if OE and StBogans both come up. I predict we'll see "A Section Amateur Football" and "A Section Amateur Football (unwashed)" threads.
It's only temporary, they'll get over it.
VAFA and the VAFAUA and the tribunal are three corners of a triangle at the moment, no umpire sends someone off without good cause because they all know the effect it has on the game. There have been several - cynics would say dozens - of cases this year where blokes deserving weeks have been let off by the tribunal. No doubt there have been many fewer cases where an ump has made a genuine mistake and been sucked in or sent off the wrong bloke, and at least one where a young ump was being overzealous because he had been wrongly told that being observed == apply the letter of the law, not the spirit of the law. But that was an extreme exception, and he got it right the week later.
Swings and roundabouts. You're going to get off some weeks, you're going to get stiffed in others. Overall its a very good system and clean competition. Now its just up to VAFA to iron out the inconsistency in this years tribunal.
man in outer
15 Aug 2007, 16:00
Learn some proper English you moron. Which Kew school did you go to?
Fair call except you should have spelt english with a lower case e.
kaiser sose
15 Aug 2007, 16:31
so all is good if i clobber you behind play without you looking, and as long as the ump didnt see i should get away with it?? jeeze i'd like to play against you guys with your own rules.. just take everyone out behind play because it's seems ok to do so in your books!! idiot... gosh....
sh1t, might as well put a boxer on the field and tell him to belt blokes in the head when the ump isnt looking.. hopefully break a jaw or two, and seeing as lots of clubs dont have insurance in the ammo's he can fork out his $5000 hospital bill if he doesn't have private!! you're on a good thing there gil.. give me some more insight into this great game you are doing so well at promoting..
D!CKHEAD!
I wish you idiots would get your facts right. It wasn't BEHIND PLAY, rather a shepherd that caught the bloke high.
Gil McLaughlins Horse
15 Aug 2007, 16:31
so all is good if i clobber you behind play without you looking, and as long as the ump didnt see i should get away with it?? jeeze i'd like to play against you guys with your own rules.. just take everyone out behind play because it's seems ok to do so in your books!! idiot... gosh....
sh1t, might as well put a boxer on the field and tell him to belt blokes in the head when the ump isnt looking.. hopefully break a jaw or two, and seeing as lots of clubs dont have insurance in the ammo's he can fork out his $5000 hospital bill if he doesn't have private!! you're on a good thing there gil.. give me some more insight into this great game you are doing so well at promoting..
D!CKHEAD!
My point Mr Knob jockey, is that if i went through every game this year that any team in the ammos has played, there would be instances where reckless instances occured, STB video each game, it can be done.
What about the STB player in the first round who was slung recklessly to the ground and couldnt be moved for 45 minutes and spent 2 days in hosp. Or the U/19 player heavily concussed because a high profile state player decided instead of giving a fair hip and shoulder lifted the elbow.
Every team would be the same.
i dont like seeing anyone come out with an injury like a broken jaw and im not at all condoning reckless actions...
What i dont like as a precedent is a club moaning and pissing on about every little instance that went on during particular games to get their own way.
Slay Master G
15 Aug 2007, 17:03
What i dont like as a precedent is a club moaning and pissing on about every little instance that went on during particular games to get their own way.
What do you suggest a club do when one of their players has his jaw broken in an incident....? Nothing..?
I think it shows that Collegians are a good club that will go in to bat for its players. Unfortunately not all clubs do the same to stamp out reckless and dangerous play.
ultimate hater
15 Aug 2007, 17:32
well if it was a shepard that caught him high wouldn't that be charging not striking?? the bloke obviously did a dirty act whether you say it was in play or not (was far enough out of play for the ump to miss though), if it was a legitimate shepard he wouldn't have got 4 weeks!! sucked in to the bloke for doing it and thinking he could get away with it.. im sure he won't be raising the elbow to someone's head again or whatever he did.. and i think collegians are well within their right for going further with it.. i'd much rather 4 weeks out than a broken jaw..
ultimate hater
15 Aug 2007, 17:34
What do you suggest a club do when one of their players has his jaw broken in an incident....? Nothing..?
I think it shows that Collegians are a good club that will go in to bat for its players. Unfortunately not all clubs do the same to stamp out reckless and dangerous play.
well said SMG, I'd like to see the president of Stb tell one of their players that will miss out on finals through thuggary "stiff sh1t, get over it"..
babyinablender
15 Aug 2007, 17:55
Nice point TBP, and I totally agree with you.
In the 1999 Grand Final, Bulleen Temp had 3 players reported and sent off in the one quater. Ajax kicked 13 unanswered goals in 20 minutes (not a bad effort!) while BT were reduced to 15 men. Grand final all over. All 3 players cleared at subsequent tribunal hearing.
So an overly zealous umpire and the send off rule had much bigger implications than just costing a side a place in the finals. It cost a premiership.
Amazing AJAX didnt choke during that granny as well and manage to lose it........
Il Naso De Gastev
15 Aug 2007, 22:00
What do people think of the precedent that has now been set that a player can be charged retrospectively under video evidence?? Everyone seems to be avoiding this issue like the plague.
IMO it opens a massive can of worms. Before long we will have a match review panel in the VAFA.
accurate1
15 Aug 2007, 23:01
well said SMG, I'd like to see the president of Stb tell one of their players that will miss out on finals through thuggary "stiff sh1t, get over it"..
Enough from the morons who still don't understand what occurred ... pity we can't show the video to make it simple for the simpletons ... the Collegians player was facing the Bernards player and as they bumped the Collegian player ducked & the Bernards player got him high - accidental but damage was done & he has paid the price. What hasnt been mentioned is that a Collegians player eye gouged one of Bernards guns along with other grubby actions. The diff is that Bernards cop it on the chin but Collegians whine & sook including the attempt to incriminate Garth that was laughed out of the tribunal. Collegians should be ashamed for laying a frivolous charge.
Alright, I'm calling a moratorium on this issue. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH FOR F SAKE
Enough from the morons who still don't understand what occurred ... pity we can't show the video to make it simple for the simpletons ... the Collegians player was facing the Bernards player and as they bumped the Collegian player ducked & the Bernards player got him high - accidental but damage was done & he has paid the price. What hasnt been mentioned is that a Collegians player eye gouged one of Bernards guns along with other grubby actions. The diff is that Bernards cop it on the chin but Collegians whine & sook including the attempt to incriminate Garth that was laughed out of the tribunal. Collegians should be ashamed for laying a frivolous charge.
The only ones that should be ashamed here are STB players and supporters for continuing to stand up and defend thuggish behaviour. The VAFA is not a competition that should accept behind play, dirty incidents (or grubby actions as described above). "Copping it on the chin" is bullsh*t. It should not happen to begin with. The only people saying to "cop it on the chin" are those that continually use it as a tactic (and IMO that is a pathetic way to play football - and yes i include anyone from a team i support in saying that).
"Play hard, but play fair" should be the motto, but according to those that stand up and support STB on this issue, it's more along the lines of "play hard, and do whatever you like to the opposition as long as you don't get caught, and bugger the consequences of your actions"!
Plumber
16 Aug 2007, 10:08
The only ones that should be ashamed here are STB players and supporters for continuing to stand up and defend thuggish behaviour. The VAFA is not a competition that should accept behind play, dirty incidents (or grubby actions as described above). "Copping it on the chin" is bullsh*t. It should not happen to begin with. The only people saying to "cop it on the chin" are those that continually use it as a tactic (and IMO that is a pathetic way to play football - and yes i include anyone from a team i support in saying that).
"Play hard, but play fair" should be the motto, but according to those that stand up and support STB on this issue, it's more along the lines of "play hard, and do whatever you like to the opposition as long as you don't get caught, and bugger the consequences of your actions"!
Blah blah blah...enough of this topic please!
soupsey
16 Aug 2007, 11:48
Isn't it great plumber to have so many concentrating on everything else BUT this weeks game!
ultimate hater
16 Aug 2007, 12:25
well then start talking soupesy!!
rumour has it OH are pumped as this weekend will be a prime opportunity to get a win under their belt against the underperforming collegians!! jeeze collegians will want to win, and want to win very very well, anything under 100point win will almost be a loss.. they not only need percentage but confidence coming up against OB and OX in the next two weeks..
there are some cracking games.. OX and OI, uni and scotch.. bottom of the ladder game in Stb and OT's.. exciting stuff!!
anyone want to lend any thoughts on the games? maybe in's and out's or something at least!! it's been nothing but tripe on here all week!!!
Isn't it great plumber to have so many concentrating on everything else BUT this weeks game!
What's so great about it soupsey? Are you getting a game for Collingwood this week?
three wide
16 Aug 2007, 14:07
speaking to a couple of the supporters of collegians, was disapointed 9like a lot of collegia fans) to hear that no players "flew the flag" for collegians... if the action was so cut and dry why didnt they remonstrate?
although horsey speaks plenty of dribble- he has a point. video evidence submitted week/s after the event is setting a very bad precedent.
soupsey
16 Aug 2007, 14:19
Mr jogger...Have you checked out the green guide in todays Age? That will tell you all.
Mr jogger...Have you checked out the green guide in todays Age? That will tell you all.
soupsey, what are your thoughts on this weeks games. Can we read anything into OB's loss last week? It was about this time last year they started resting all their players..
soupsey
16 Aug 2007, 14:47
I would think that they learned from that mistake! I reckon OX and OI are playing for a double chance this weekend. Big game. Don;t listen to anyone who says OH are "pumped up" for this weekend, they would need to be pumped up on jungle juice to get anywhere near the lions. OB would want to have a good showing after parhaps realising the August champions tag means squat. Uni are the real smokey I think. They can cause damage over the next 3 weeks and beyond. I would love to see some upsets this weekend!
dee attack 09
16 Aug 2007, 14:53
This season is shaping up to be a ripper, with the battle down the bottom heating up and up the top. If Scotch win this week they are safe i would say that scotch only have to win one more game to be safe and with all three being very winable. Trinity will beat STb this week and if scotch loose they are all on 24 points however STB play OH and OS play DeL, OS have the wood on the ice cream makers and would not drop that at home for me its OT's to go down to B grade anyother thoughts. And which team out of OS, OT's and StB would you guys like to see go down
Concrete boots
16 Aug 2007, 15:31
This season is shaping up to be a ripper, with the battle down the bottom heating up and up the top. If Scotch win this week they are safe i would say that scotch only have to win one more game to be safe and with all three being very winable. Trinity will beat STb this week and if scotch loose they are all on 24 points however STB play OH and OS play DeL, OS have the wood on the ice cream makers and would not drop that at home for me its OT's to go down to B grade anyother thoughts. And which team out of OS, OT's and StB would you guys like to see go down
Old Scotch for mine - it would be delightful to see them in B section in 2008. :p;)
ultimate hater
16 Aug 2007, 15:42
Old Scotch for mine - it would be delightful to see them in B section in 2008. :p;)
would prefer stb.. but not fussed.. but by the looks of things in B section, stbogans will be coming up? would their postage stamp be up to scratch for A section? skobs ground last year wasnt..
quikies69
16 Aug 2007, 15:57
brighton for premiers!!!
soupsey
16 Aug 2007, 16:50
Wouldn't it be lovely to see Skob AND scotch in B?
Just a query, how can a player of Brock Mooney's stature be playing in the OC magoos? Surely the big sexy plays ones or not at all. Jogger? Slay?
Wouldn't it be lovely to see Skob AND scotch in B?
Just a query, how can a player of Brock Mooney's stature be playing in the OC magoos? Surely the big sexy plays ones or not at all. Jogger? Slay?
Don't worry about the big sexy soupsey, he will be playing in the 1s very shortly. High probability it will be this week.
He just wanted to work on his complexion before appearing on the big stage again...
chelsworthgale
16 Aug 2007, 19:22
Don't worry about the big sexy soupsey, he will be playing in the 1s very shortly. High probability it will be this week.
He just wanted to work on his complexion before appearing on the big stage again...
Jogger while you are giving a report on some COLL players can you update me on the condition of little Bull's hamstrings... last I heard the man with the yellow wheels was jet setting off to Sydney on an all expenses paid "work conference" to return early Saturday morning to play... surely if his strings arent feeling great the pressures and stress of a "work conference" is not going to do him good?!