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vafa guru
18 Jun 2008, 15:16
crikey! that's a massive penalty.. 2 weeks suspension and 5 weeks of "helping out" to boot!!
besides, I thought he is a reserves player?? how can he be goal ump, timekeep or interchange steward while playing for 5 weeks??
don't want to dwell on the past, but funny how you can get away with headbutting someone in-front of an ump during the semi's '07 but doing a streak gets you 2 weeks plus 5 "good behaviour" weeks...
poor decision VAFA :thumbsd:
also - well done on the st bedes tools for naming the poor bloke... very unaustralian..
Not a two's player hater - one of their best senior player - would get a game in any A section Side. I agree with your take on the consistency of the VAFA Tribunal - what about a fine for a club when a player jumps the fence and has a go at a spectator in a 2nd semi !!
Beaumauris can not afford to miss him for two weeks, for once I agree with Jase. Let him play.
Jascave
18 Jun 2008, 15:41
Not a two's player hater - one of their best senior player - would get a game in any A section Side. I agree with your take on the consistency of the VAFA Tribunal - what about a fine for a club when a player jumps the fence and has a go at a spectator in a 2nd semi !!
Beaumauris can not afford to miss him for two weeks, for once I agree with Jase. Let him play.
Let alone 7 weeks-2 weeks suspension, then another 5 for doing what I might call 'VAFA community service'. What would happen if Beaumaris make a late charge for the finals and McNicholas is not there-due to a incident which might mean nothing much and happens at other grassroots comps around Australia (have a look at the video ' The Best of Almost Footy Legends') and some of it might be embarassing but also humourous, yet the VAFA sees it differently?
north of the river
18 Jun 2008, 15:52
Let alone 7 weeks-2 weeks suspension, then another 5 for doing what I might call 'VAFA community service'. What would happen if Beaumaris make a late charge for the finals and McNicholas is not there-due to a incident which might mean nothing much and happens at other grassroots comps around Australia (have a look at the video ' The Best of Almost Footy Legends') and some of it might be embarassing but also humourous, yet the VAFA sees it differently?
Jas - If Beauy make a late charge for the finals, I will streak across EP and do 10 star jumps in the middle before the bounce.
ultimate hater
18 Jun 2008, 16:05
Let alone 7 weeks-2 weeks suspension, then another 5 for doing what I might call 'VAFA community service'. What would happen if Beaumaris make a late charge for the finals and McNicholas is not there-due to a incident which might mean nothing much and happens at other grassroots comps around Australia (have a look at the video ' The Best of Almost Footy Legends') and some of it might be embarassing but also humourous, yet the VAFA sees it differently?
sorry jas, i think you miss understand.. he can still play 1's, just has to go all that before his game, during the 2's.. not much of a preperation i must admit! he can forget about the warm-up!! what a joke!
ultimate hater
18 Jun 2008, 16:08
also, my mistake for pointing the finger at st bedes, someone noted chickenman or the like was a stbedes fellow.. apologies!
Max Leader
18 Jun 2008, 16:21
The Sheik has released is half yearly Top 30, and it proves like Mike Sheehan, making prediction prior to the start of the season is frought with danger!
1 Chris Blumfield COL (17)
2 Richard Eva SCO (0)
3 Jack Osborn TRI (0)
4 Sam Anstey SBM (7)
5 Jack Watts BLU (0)
6 Andrew McGuinness BRI (0)
7 Aaron Shields DLS (0)
8 Andrew Scafidi SBM (0)
9 Andrew Lowcock BLU (30)
10 Peter McGettigan SBM (0)
11 Evan Spargo IVA (0)
12 Matthew Kempton BLA (26)
13 Fergus Watts COL (0)
14 Will Tardif COL (0)
15 Justin Arnold XAV (2)
16 Daniel Costello BLA (0)
17 Mark Ainley BRI (4)
18 Andrew Baxter COL (0)
19 Nicholas Ries COL (0)
20 Luke Wintle SBM (0)
21 Nick Stone COL (0)
22 Andrew Ryan XAV (0)
23 Matthew Gadsden BRI (0)
24 Nicholas Serafini XAV (22)
25 Scott Curatolo IVA (0)
26 Quinton Gleeson BLU (0)
27 Matthew Handley XAV (0)
28 Nicholas Corda SBM (0)
29 Brendan Iezzi TRI (1)
30 Nicholas Hildebrandt SCO (0)
By club: COL 6, SBM 5, XAV 4, BRI 3, SCO 2, TRI 2, BLU 3, IVA 2, BLA 2, DLS 1
Maybe the State Selectors can have a look at this group except the boys with COL after their name.
To ask Luke McNicholas to either do the interchange, goal umpire duties, timekeeping after his 2 game sentence is up, and also to write a letter to the VAFA, VAFAUA, Old Ivanhoe & St Bedes Mentone Tigers is a little over the top by the VAFA. Also interesting to note that Luke McNicholas, according to the VAFA 'did allegedly not behave in a manner fitting the ethos of the VAFA'-that's the first time I've heard something like that. Wonder what the 'ethos of the VAFA' mean?? BTW, could Luke McNicholas appeal against the sentence handed down to him by the VAFA investigations committee?
I hadn't before either, but their is another charge heard that had the same outcome
"Box Hill North charged with conduct unbecoming in that their senior coach, Peter Armstrong did allegedly not behave in a manner fitting the ethos of the VAFA.
Charge proven. Club fined $200. Peter Armstrong to attend umpire training regarding umpire appreciation and respect."
Is there a new charge coming into vogue?
vafa guru
18 Jun 2008, 16:32
The Sheik has released is half yearly Top 30, and it proves like Mike Sheehan, making prediction prior to the start of the season is frought with danger!
1 Chris Blumfield COL (17)
2 Richard Eva SCO (0)
3 Jack Osborn TRI (0)
4 Sam Anstey SBM (7)
5 Jack Watts BLU (0)
6 Andrew McGuinness BRI (0)
7 Aaron Shields DLS (0)
8 Andrew Scafidi SBM (0)
9 Andrew Lowcock BLU (30)
10 Peter McGettigan SBM (0)
11 Evan Spargo IVA (0)
12 Matthew Kempton BLA (26)
13 Fergus Watts COL (0)
14 Will Tardif COL (0)
15 Justin Arnold XAV (2)
16 Daniel Costello BLA (0)
17 Mark Ainley BRI (4)
18 Andrew Baxter COL (0)
19 Nicholas Ries COL (0)
20 Luke Wintle SBM (0)
21 Nick Stone COL (0)
22 Andrew Ryan XAV (0)
23 Matthew Gadsden BRI (0)
24 Nicholas Serafini XAV (22)
25 Scott Curatolo IVA (0)
26 Quinton Gleeson BLU (0)
27 Matthew Handley XAV (0)
28 Nicholas Corda SBM (0)
29 Brendan Iezzi TRI (1)
30 Nicholas Hildebrandt SCO (0)
By club: COL 6, SBM 5, XAV 4, BRI 3, SCO 2, TRI 2, BLU 3, IVA 2, BLA 2, DLS 1
Maybe the State Selectors can have a look at this group except the boys with COL after their name.
Good on the Sheik for putting his neck on the line, I think he is pretty close to the mark - I would have Arnold a fair bit higher though - goal kicking mid fielders are the cream of the crop and he is the best in the comp when it comes to that.
what about Fergus Watts at 13 ! He has kicked 55 goals for the year, 23 more than anyone else, go to be top 10.
Otherwise - good work Sheik
I hadn't before either, but their is another charge heard that had the same outcome
"Box Hill North charged with conduct unbecoming in that their senior coach, Peter Armstrong did allegedly not behave in a manner fitting the ethos of the VAFA.
Charge proven. Club fined $200. Peter Armstrong to attend umpire training regarding umpire appreciation and respect."
Is there a new charge coming into vogue?
Apparently he mooned the ump....
JG Hornet
18 Jun 2008, 16:48
Good on the Sheik for putting his neck on the line, I think he is pretty close to the mark - I would have Arnold a fair bit higher though - goal kicking mid fielders are the cream of the crop and he is the best in the comp when it comes to that.
what about Fergus Watts at 13 ! He has kicked 55 goals for the year, 23 more than anyone else, go to be top 10.
Otherwise - good work Sheik
The Sheik is a charlatan. I think he should realise that Collegians' best players list is a weekly document best ignored. Charlatan I say.
ultimate hater
18 Jun 2008, 17:12
well haven't all the posters come out of the woodwork..
anyone want to pen their thoughts on what the top 4 will be come seasons end and the 2 to go down?
Mine:
Collegians - game clear
OB - OB and OX on same wins
OX
STBM - 1 game behind OB and OX
scotch to miss out by a game +%
OT's and Blacks to go back down.. OT's have been on the bottom for a few years now, need a season of getting some wins.. both will be top liners in B next year though..
rightfoot_sloth
18 Jun 2008, 17:14
The Trinity players were kept in the rooms for around 2 hours after there loss to De La last Sat.
Once the Coach had finished ripping though them, (which a witness from outside said was reasonably entertaining) all the members of the committee went round to the players and gave them there 2 cents aswell.
So my answer to question 2. Vafa Guru
Trinity will join Blacks
I think you should buy a new watch Cherry Picker :mad: . As all the OT crew were all in the De La rooms for the awards and scores from around the grounds. This would have been around 5:30 by my reckoning. Do the math ...
ultimate hater
18 Jun 2008, 17:25
and how's this for stbede's next 5 weeks, Scotch, Brighton, Blues, Xavs, Collegians..
it's going to be exciting footy coming into finals!! surely collegians can't repeat what happened last year and end up out of the 4?!?
yeah i know.. no chance.. but its an entertaining thought all the same!
BrianSpeaking
18 Jun 2008, 17:42
and how's this for stbede's next 5 weeks, Scotch, Brighton, Blues, Xavs, Collegians..
it's going to be exciting footy coming into finals!! surely collegians can't repeat what happened last year and end up out of the 4?!?
yeah i know.. no chance.. but its an entertaining thought all the same!
If St Bedes can get all of their stock on the park they will go 14-4 at worst and if Watts gets injured then the Lions will be in strife. If he doesnt St Kilda will be dirty!
If St Bedes can get all of their stock on the park they will go 14-4 at worst and if Watts gets injured then the Lions will be in strife. If he doesnt St Kilda will be dirty!
Watts certainly isn't the be-all and end-all of the Collegians team by any stretch of the imagination (i would be more concerned if N.Stone was missing), but there will be a couple of players going overseas soon to be covered. Having said that, Mooney and Arnott should be back at some stage over the second half of the season.
It's no secret i am a collegians man, but i have a feeling that SBMT may finish minor premiers, and watch for Xavs to storm through the second half of the season. Scotch will be the unlucky team to miss (and i really do mean unlucky, as i think the top 5 sides this year are all worthy. It's great to have such strong competition in the premier division of amateur footy!)
HERNIA_KING
18 Jun 2008, 20:43
Great to see Jack Osborn from Old Trinity get no.3 Very good player, probably in the top 3 fittest blokes in the competition. Super-fast, super-fit, strong and never stops trying. At only 20 years of age its very exciting. Also good to see Evan Spargo at No.11 as, looking at that list of 30, is the only under 19 player to be mentioned so another fine effort from the big Ivanhoe boy! Nice work Sheik.
Over The Post
18 Jun 2008, 22:33
Going to agree with Hater on the final four.
Fergus did a bit of pouting on the weekend at all the (lacklustre/silly/stupid/needless) turnovers at half forward. The purple power were winning a lot of ball in the backline and midfield and then just handing it back on a plate to Brighton before he could get his mitts on it. He wasn't cracking it a la Matthew Richardson but the thought was definitely there!
Jascave
19 Jun 2008, 00:16
If I was in charge of the VAFA Investigations committee, I would've given Luke McNicholas a severe reprimand and a $100 fine-that's it. Not the suspension plus the 'community service' stuff which he has to do now which I thought was very much over the top. Leave the community service stuff to the law courts-not in a competition like the VAFA. Surely the VAFA would've done it in this fashion which I've highlighted above instead of giving him one of the most bizarre sentences I've seen in my time watching footy. I mean, it's just grassroots footy-not AFL. Or maybe the VAFA has spent too much time with the 'fun police'?
Over The Post
19 Jun 2008, 00:47
What's the betting a Channel 9 crew will turn up at the next Sportscover A Section match to record Billy Brownless streaking across the hallowed turf for the Footy Show?
Serve 'em right.
BrianSpeaking
19 Jun 2008, 01:02
Have to disagree Jascave, streaking should not be condoned in a family friendly comp. He is lucky he wasnt charged like he would have been at an AFL game, should have been banned the rest of the season.
The Big Pineapple
19 Jun 2008, 08:55
Have to disagree Jascave, streaking should not be condoned in a family friendly comp. He is lucky he wasnt charged like he would have been at an AFL game, should have been banned the rest of the season.
You can't be serious Brian?
soupsey
19 Jun 2008, 10:29
Have to disagree Jascave, streaking should not be condoned in a family friendly comp. He is lucky he wasnt charged like he would have been at an AFL game, should have been banned the rest of the season.
I'm with Brian! The only thing separating our comp from the suburban leagues is the standards by which we go about it. Without standard setting for players, officials, spectators, then we become the Diamond Valley!
It's the little things.....literally.
ultimate hater
19 Jun 2008, 11:13
But yet streaking is celebrated in the AFL Toyota ad's?
And celebrated on Almost Football Legends on the Footy Show?
I know it's not something we want to occur often. But at the same time, saying someone should be banned from playing for the whole season is ridiculous...
Soupsey, you say our "standards" is what seperates us from suburban comps, yet things like headbutting gets thrown out at the tribunal?? I think things like that belong in the suburban comps... who gives a rats about a bit of nudity, there was no jumping the fence by a player and confronting a spectator, or any form of assault... I think a letter of apology and naming and shaming would be enough..
If people think streaking is worse than belting a bloke, maybe they should stop showing such things on the footy show and toyota ad's and start showing fights and re-enacting the barry hall punch in an ad instead... would you be happy then brian? seriously, get off your high-horse..
The Big Pineapple
19 Jun 2008, 11:21
But yet streaking is celebrated in the AFL Toyota ad's?
And celebrated on Almost Football Legends on the Footy Show?
I know it's not something we want to occur often. But at the same time, saying someone should be banned from playing for the whole season is ridiculous...
Soupsey, you say our "standards" is what seperates us from suburban comps, yet things like headbutting gets thrown out at the tribunal?? I think things like that belong in the suburban comps... who gives a rats about a bit of nudity, there was no jumping the fence by a player and confronting a spectator, or any form of assault... I think a letter of apology and naming and shaming would be enough..
If people think streaking is worse than belting a bloke, maybe they should stop showing such things on the footy show and toyota ad's and start showing fights and re-enacting the barry hall punch in an ad instead... would you be happy then brian? seriously, get off your high-horse..
Agreed. Still can't believe that was thrown out.
Cherry Picker
19 Jun 2008, 11:24
But yet streaking is celebrated in the AFL Toyota ad's?
And celebrated on Almost Football Legends on the Footy Show?
I know it's not something we want to occur often. But at the same time, saying someone should be banned from playing for the whole season is ridiculous...
Soupsey, you say our "standards" is what seperates us from suburban comps, yet things like headbutting gets thrown out at the tribunal?? I think things like that belong in the suburban comps... who gives a rats about a bit of nudity, there was no jumping the fence by a player and confronting a spectator, or any form of assault... I think a letter of
apology and naming and shaming would be enough..
If people think streaking is worse than belting a bloke, maybe they should stop showing such things on the footy show and toyota ad's and start showing fights and re-enacting the barry hall punch in an ad instead... would you be happy then brian? seriously, get off your high-horse..
You really need to get over Arnold's alleged headbutt, UH.
You Lost.
Move On
ultimate hater
19 Jun 2008, 11:32
You really need to get over Arnold's alleged headbutt, UH.
You Lost.
Move On
haha ahhh cherry, just bringing up examples i know.. OB would have been beaten with or without arnold i think... its not the point, im not bringing up the game.. im bringing up that a headbutt, clearly seen by the ump, and the ump said at the tribunal he saw it, was thrown out.. i actually think even if he was found guilty, he should have been allowed to play the granny.. BUT, thats not my point..
point is, some people think streaking should be a season ban, yet some forms of assault can get thrown out, or even just 2 weeks... but whats worse for a "family friendly" comp, fights/people getting belted/abuse towards an ump/players confronting spectators or someone streaking?
ultimate hater
19 Jun 2008, 11:36
anyway.. a little over this... it was a bloke streaking FFS...
soupsey
19 Jun 2008, 13:31
But yet streaking is celebrated in the AFL Toyota ad's?
And celebrated on Almost Football Legends on the Footy Show?
I know it's not something we want to occur often. But at the same time, saying someone should be banned from playing for the whole season is ridiculous...
Soupsey, you say our "standards" is what seperates us from suburban comps, yet things like headbutting gets thrown out at the tribunal?? I think things like that belong in the suburban comps... who gives a rats about a bit of nudity, there was no jumping the fence by a player and confronting a spectator, or any form of assault... I think a letter of apology and naming and shaming would be enough..
If people think streaking is worse than belting a bloke, maybe they should stop showing such things on the footy show and toyota ad's and start showing fights and re-enacting the barry hall punch in an ad instead... would you be happy then brian? seriously, get off your high-horse..
Hater you need to realise fact that your club was beaten fair and square in the grand final last year. The tribunal heard the case and it was thrown out. Trust me the ammos tribunal don't throw out cases unless they have nothing to go on. Arnold never headbutted anyone! Your sorry ass club tried to knock him over, he stood his ground, you guys lost, we won. Move on! I'm only offering this as advice because I would hate for you to be still quoting bygone incidents in the future. Look forward to this years finals not last years pal.
JG Hornet
19 Jun 2008, 13:51
Hater you need to realise fact that your club was beaten fair and square in the grand final last year. The tribunal heard the case and it was thrown out. Trust me the ammos tribunal don't throw out cases unless they have nothing to go on. Arnold never headbutted anyone! Your sorry ass club tried to knock him over, he stood his ground, you guys lost, we won. Move on! I'm only offering this as advice because I would hate for you to be still quoting bygone incidents in the future. Look forward to this years finals not last years pal.
Mate he qualified what he said in a later post. We are all aware that you are involved with the almighty Old Xavs and we are all proud of you.
soupsey
19 Jun 2008, 14:26
Mate he qualified what he said in a later post. We are all aware that you are involved with the almighty Old Xavs and we are all proud of you.
Wasn't talking to you ________!
ultimate hater
19 Jun 2008, 15:11
Hater you need to realise fact that your club was beaten fair and square in the grand final last year. The tribunal heard the case and it was thrown out. Trust me the ammos tribunal don't throw out cases unless they have nothing to go on. Arnold never headbutted anyone! Your sorry ass club tried to knock him over, he stood his ground, you guys lost, we won. Move on! I'm only offering this as advice because I would hate for you to be still quoting bygone incidents in the future. Look forward to this years finals not last years pal.
soupsey, i know its hard for you to understand, but as i said before, i wasn't talking about last years grand final, infact i never brought it up... cherry did.. i just bought up an "incident" regardless on when it happened... you were the one to jump up and down about it..
all im doing is putting forward an example of how the vafa's "rules" and "ethos" are bullshit and that some people get on their high horse about being a "family competition" and act like streaking is a very low act, belongs in suburban comps and should be severely punished etc.. yet people getting belted and other things i have mentioned are fine...
massive storm in a teacup..
Tips for round 10
Trinity (:confused:)
Xavs
Braighton
De La
STBMT
Half Back
20 Jun 2008, 10:39
Collegians
Brighton
De La
Scotch
Blacks
diablo14
20 Jun 2008, 11:16
SBMT over OS
OB over OI
OX over Coll
Blacks over OT
Blues over DLS
Cherry Picker
20 Jun 2008, 11:51
Scotch
Briiighton
OX
Trinity
Blues
river man
20 Jun 2008, 12:37
SBMT over OS (Let the slippery dip begin)
OB over OI
Coll over OX
Blacks over OT
De la over Blues
ultimate hater
20 Jun 2008, 12:42
STBM
OB
Xavs
Blacks
Blues.
Could be a few changes up the pointy end of the ladder..
Cardio Carl
20 Jun 2008, 13:37
SBMT over OS
OB over OI
OX over Coll
Blacks over OT
De la over Blues
ITSMYNAME
20 Jun 2008, 14:42
OS over St Bedes - Every team has a bogey side, i think the scotchies are the tigers kryptonite.
OI over OB at Ivanhoe.
Old Xavs to keep rolling along over the purples.
Blacks over OT in a 'who cares match.'
Blues over De La
Take it to the bank.
Lance Burkhardt
20 Jun 2008, 16:07
Back after a nice break, didn't know the ammos had an ethos code of conduct. Nonetheless, would've thought clubs paying players would've been addressed before nudie runs, but it's a pointless topic.
tips for this week,
STBM over OS (If the Mentonians win this week, they will play finals)
OB over OI (OI always great at home but OB are on a roll)
OX over Coll (OX to start their run to finals)
OT over Blacks (when they're in trouble OT's always pull something out)
Blues over De la (De la in form, but the Blues have the edge)
BrianSpeaking
20 Jun 2008, 23:06
STBMT over OS
OB over OI
Coll over OX
OT over Blacks
Blues over De La
Over The Post
21 Jun 2008, 10:27
Scotch
Brighton
Xavs
Blacks
De La
Bigfootyfan
21 Jun 2008, 17:43
Scotch over the Tigers by 3 points in a belter, had SBMT kicked straight would have been all over. Poynton had a shot from the boundary to win it with under a minute to go
Over The Post
22 Jun 2008, 00:31
Yup, 18.6 to 15.21. Some of those were rushed, touched or hit the post, but nowhere near all.
Margins were six, two, one and three points. (VAFA site incorrect, Scotch had 6.0.36 1Q.)
Absolutely cracking game, especially all the lead changes in the last.
bigman31
22 Jun 2008, 10:30
Great effort by Scotchies today. They had a heap of players out while St Bedes were very strong and had pretty much their best team in.
It was a cracking game.
ITSMYNAME
22 Jun 2008, 12:04
Great effort by Scotchies today. They had a heap of players out while St Bedes were very strong and had pretty much their best team in.
It was a cracking game.
A cracking game it was.
But st bedes lost 2 players during the day, Groves & Maddocks, so i hardly say they were full strength all day & they still have 2 or 3 starters injured. Who was scotch missing besides Mcrae who isn't playing many games anyway?
Yes that carrying-on at half time was quite bizzare!
Designer
22 Jun 2008, 12:44
Yup, 18.6 to 15.21. Some of those were rushed, touched or hit the post, but nowhere near all.
Margins were six, two, one and three points. (VAFA site incorrect, Scotch had 6.0.36 1Q.)
Absolutely cracking game, especially all the lead changes in the last.
I agree with you, six set shots that my little sister would have kicked from inside 35meters, let all the hard work by this amazing little team down.
bigman31
22 Jun 2008, 13:50
Scotchies had about 6 senior players out plus Mcrae.Also lost i early in the game.
Designer
22 Jun 2008, 15:48
Scotchies had about 6 senior players out plus Mcrae.Also lost i early in the game.
Tigers have at least six prem players missing to.
BrianSpeaking
22 Jun 2008, 17:25
Silly thing to say St Bedes were pretty much full strength, obviously you dont know your ammo footy.
bigman31
22 Jun 2008, 17:45
Well who was missing?.Great win by Scotchies,knocked them of twice this year.
river man
23 Jun 2008, 10:32
Tigers have at least six prem players missing to.
The sign of a good club is when they have enough depth to cover injuries and not have to make excuses when they lose.
The Big Pineapple
23 Jun 2008, 10:43
Injuries are a part of football ladies... move on.
young boy
23 Jun 2008, 11:14
Silly thing to say St Bedes were pretty much full strength, obviously you dont know your ammo footy.
Two big outs in dave kinsella and his sidekick brett collins...
ITSMYNAME
23 Jun 2008, 11:35
Add Hilton(gone for the year) Luke Terrell, Zakic & Michael Wintle will be there with the big boys in a few weeks.
But really is any side ever full strength? Always 1 or 2 out in every team. As you said River, depth is the key!
soupsey
23 Jun 2008, 11:39
The sign of a good club is when they have enough depth to cover injuries and not have to make excuses when they lose.
Very wise river! Also a bit rich saying they had premiership players missing!
I assume these are B grade premiership players?
Over The Post
23 Jun 2008, 12:39
Were any other matches played on the weekend? Or was everyone at the Scotch luncheon and missed out?
Cardio Carl
23 Jun 2008, 13:41
Silly thing to say St Bedes were pretty much full strength, obviously you dont know your ammo footy.
Scotch are very well coached against StB - they know they have to counteract switch & run off half back and focus 120% pressure on StB HFF especially chip (cheap) kicks/leads out of the Centre - close these two options down and is generates massive pressure on less reliant forward options near goal where they freeze up when scoring on the burst inside 50.
Surly23
23 Jun 2008, 15:55
Scotch are very well coached against StB - they know they have to counteract switch & run off half back and focus 120% pressure on StB HFF especially chip (cheap) kicks/leads out of the Centre - close these two options down and is generates massive pressure on less reliant forward options near goal where they freeze up when scoring on the burst inside 50.
I am confused about what you mean???
Not sure a side that was so well coached would have had 36 scoring shots against them.. and as for his halftime rant, well, enough said!
But as they say, bad kicking is bad football...........
Axel1980
23 Jun 2008, 16:27
The 2 clubs put the best cattle they had availble to them on the day out on the park and Scotch won, end of story. It's funny how when a team has a loss they start trying to make excuses at the end of the day you lost cause you were not good enough on the day!
Every single Ammo club would have 3-6 players missing every week, nature of the game, shit happens & Scotch to good for STBM twice this year.
8 rounds to go shaping up for a cracking 8 weeks
Cherry Picker
23 Jun 2008, 16:43
What's going on down at the Trott Nicho??
Havent heard from you for awhile......
Cardio Carl
23 Jun 2008, 17:08
I am confused about what you mean???
Not sure a side that was so well coached would have had 36 scoring shots against them.. and as for his halftime rant, well, enough said!
But as they say, bad kicking is bad football...........
Yeah, Surly the old bad kicking is bad football only goes so far until it is placed in the bin with the other crap excuses.
You of all people know poor score conversion on the board hides a number of events. Also delivered from rush behinds (controlled by opposition), pressure on the kick - running, set & mindset - even you would agree based on Saturdays game.
End of the day Scotch have the 4 points, game plan to beat StB and the wood over the lads down south.
Jascave
23 Jun 2008, 19:19
Did you guys see Daryl Timms' column The Pulse in the Herald Sun this morning?
bigman31
23 Jun 2008, 22:51
Hey Cardio Man,if you were at the game you would have seen the pressure scotchies put you under was awsome.Also when you keep having shots from the boundary line you have no hope.
Good Coaching is straight kicking which is what Scotchies did.
Mate you blokes should have won but you lacked some ticker in the last quarter when kicking with the breeze.
That's Scotch now 2-zippo.Winners are Grinners.
Cardio Carl
24 Jun 2008, 08:50
Hey Cardio Man,if you were at the game you would have seen the pressure scotchies put you under was awsome.Also when you keep having shots from the boundary line you have no hope.
Good Coaching is straight kicking which is what Scotchies did.
Mate you blokes should have won but you lacked some ticker in the last quarter when kicking with the breeze.
That's Scotch now 2-zippo.Winners are Grinners.
Bigman31, why don't you re-read the posts silly - I have basically stated everything you have and more. I have already stated that the poor conversion was not driven/dominated by inaccurate kicking but pressure placed on StB by Scotchies HFF/Mids and at the top of the def 50.
I think you should be directing your reply to Surly23.
Cardio
Axel1980
24 Jun 2008, 10:26
Anyway
Big match this week
OB V SBMT a lot on the line for OB, if they loose this one they fall a couple behind!
I don't think Coll will have it all that comfortable against Ivanhoe either
Xav's, Scotch and Blues should all have comfy wins
BrianSpeaking
24 Jun 2008, 12:01
You guys have all got lost re Scotch vs St Bedes. 31's original comment was that Scotch not at full strength beat a full strength St Bedes, which was an innacurate statement. No one is disputing the Scotch win, good luck to them and well done, a great season so far for the Cardinals. The St Bedes boys realise that it's tough week in week out and are looking forward to this week.
Cherry Picker
24 Jun 2008, 12:32
The sign of a good club is when they have enough depth to cover injuries and not have to make excuses when they lose.
You are quite right there River.
It seems Collegians will have to find some more "talent" from the reserves (2 wins & 8 Losses) in the coming weeks, after Trent Zimbachs & Will Tardiff jet off on an O/S trip and wont be returning this year.
Could the Collegians gas it again?
Axel1980
24 Jun 2008, 12:35
You guys have all got lost re Scotch vs St Bedes. 31's original comment was that Scotch not at full strength beat a full strength St Bedes, which was an innacurate statement. No one is disputing the Scotch win, good luck to them and well done, a great season so far for the Cardinals. The St Bedes boys realise that it's tough week in week out and are looking forward to this week.
Are you from SBMT Brian?
river man
24 Jun 2008, 12:55
[quote=Cherry Picker;11489801]
It seems Collegians will have to find some more "talent" from the reserves (2 wins & 8 Losses) in the coming weeks, after Trent Zimbachs & Will Tardiff jet off on an O/S trip and wont be returning this year.}}
Dipping into the talent pool could be a bit of an issue for them if your mail is good there Cherry.
But, it doesn't help when the prize recruit carrys on like matthew richardson everytime the ball is not delivered lace out....feel sorry for his team mates who are playing for the jumper and not their personal glory.
BrianSpeaking
24 Jun 2008, 14:34
Are you from SBMT Brian?
Would be fair to say that a few mates of mine and I consume stocks of Crown Lager at the club.
Sausage roll
24 Jun 2008, 15:41
You guys have all got lost re Scotch vs St Bedes. 31's original comment was that Scotch not at full strength beat a full strength St Bedes, which was an innacurate statement. No one is disputing the Scotch win, good luck to them and well done, a great season so far for the Cardinals. The St Bedes boys realise that it's tough week in week out and are looking forward to this week.
Hey Briza, you have to admit that scotch have been SUPER this year.
I think the vafa would also agree.
hotdigitydog
24 Jun 2008, 15:46
Brian seeing as your the man that is always right who you think will make the finals and go all the way
Punch From Behind
24 Jun 2008, 16:09
[quote=Cherry Picker;11489801]
It seems Collegians will have to find some more "talent" from the reserves (2 wins & 8 Losses) in the coming weeks, after Trent Zimbachs & Will Tardiff jet off on an O/S trip and wont be returning this year.}}
Dipping into the talent pool could be a bit of an issue for them if your mail is good there Cherry.
But, it doesn't help when the prize recruit carrys on like matthew richardson everytime the ball is not delivered lace out....feel sorry for his team mates who are playing for the jumper and not their personal glory.
you're having a laugh aren't you?
Fergus would be the most team oriented player at collegians... I think you will find he gets upset when his team mates continue to pass it to him when he is being triple teamed. He would much rather them spot up another target that is not 3 on 1. So yeh he may carry on at times (mostly that is because of the rough go he gets from the men in white week in week out) but it has nothing to do with him being selfish... quite the opposite really.
Yes those 2 boys mentioned earlier will be tough to cover but there are a few other key players expected to return in the coming weeks, so don't write the lions off just yet.
soupsey
24 Jun 2008, 16:20
[quote=river man;11490001]
you're having a laugh aren't you?
Fergus would be the most team oriented player at collegians... I think you will find he gets upset when his team mates continue to pass it to him when he is being triple teamed. He would much rather them spot up another target that is not 3 on 1. So yeh he may carry on at times (mostly that is because of the rough go he gets from the men in white week in week out) but it has nothing to do with him being selfish... quite the opposite really.
Yes those 2 boys mentioned earlier will be tough to cover but there are a few other key players expected to return in the coming weeks, so don't write the lions off just yet.
Is one of the guys returning an old man who had 12 career hit outs in his time at swans/geelong?
Just ask leigh!
Over The Post
24 Jun 2008, 17:18
prize recruit carrys on like matthew richardson everytime the ball is not delivered lace out..So yeh he may carry on at times (mostly that is because of the rough go he gets from the men in white week in week out)
What an absolute load.
The only time I've seen him get a bit miffed was when Brighton were stealing the ball from lots of stupid turnovers at half forward, while he was sitting like a shag on a rock in the goal square. Quite understandable and nothing to do with umps whatsoever. He cured that by dropping back to half forward flank himself. Certainly nothing like Richo's dummy spits.
Or did I miss some serious dramas on the weekend?
river man
24 Jun 2008, 17:24
[quote=river man;11490001]
you're having a laugh aren't you?
Fergus would be the most team oriented player at collegians... I think you will find he gets upset when his team mates continue to pass it to him when he is being triple teamed. He would much rather them spot up another target that is not 3 on 1. So yeh he may carry on at times (mostly that is because of the rough go he gets from the men in white week in week out) but it has nothing to do with him being selfish... quite the opposite really.
Yes those 2 boys mentioned earlier will be tough to cover but there are a few other key players expected to return in the coming weeks, so don't write the lions off just yet.
Having a laugh, yes I am. Your kidding yourself if you think the big ferg burger doesn't have a crack at his own team mates if they do not spot him up or the delivery is not up to scratch. Its a shocking thing for any player to do to his own team mates. St Bernards used to do it all the time, and when it started you knew you had them beat!!!!!
It also has nothing to do with the umpires, although he often winges to them as well.
Don't stoop down to the posters levels and make both personal and umpire excuses. Not doing any justice to yourself.
Definately not writing off the lions. Long way to go yet.
Over The Post
24 Jun 2008, 17:31
I guess I missed some serious dramas on the weekend.
Over The Post
24 Jun 2008, 17:32
Did you guys see Daryl Timms' column The Pulse in the Herald Sun this morning?
No, and it isn't online. What did he say?
Cherry Picker
24 Jun 2008, 17:33
You might need to go back afew posts OTP.
I never said Watts was like Richo, think you will find that was River..
Jascave
24 Jun 2008, 19:17
Daryl Timms made a mention of the Luke McNicholas case which resulted in McNicholas copping a 2 game ban plus a 5 game 'community service' order, which comes into effect this week. It was in Monday's Herald Sun.
Max Leader
24 Jun 2008, 21:56
Bored Housewife reviews the A Grade Website Commentary
After 10 round I have been sitting home dwelling over the passing of Desparate Housewifes, Grey;'s and Brothers and Sisters. What is a bored housewife to do. Read A Grade Clubs websites1
OX claims that behind www.vafa.com.au their site is the most important and best read website in the world. They are not far from the truth. Mr. Chips and the Sheik are incitefull and at times anti pushing OX's players to the for, except in the recent state game where they gave the best on ground to all the OX players (best thing written on any web site this year). They will pay compliments when warranted, and will critise their own again when warranted. Most Ammo slang appears to eminate from this site. Dairy Bell, Hedgeburners, Pine Lodge etc
De La. (Colin Glover) Writes with unabashed bias towards their club, rarely mentioning players from the opposition. Never detrimental to the opposition. Normally an accurate picture of the games proceedings seen from the De la perspective. Can be a little slow if they have had a loss, but they contribute none the less.
OI. I little late, but usually a well written piece, that gives a fair persective (somewhat taited with brown) of the preceeding games. Ends up with as much commentary about the games as what happens off the field.
OT. Like my Caeser salad, light and a little lacking in taste or volume. Usually leaves with some words of wisdom for the faithful
St. Bedes Unlike the boasting on this site, the commentary is rationale fair and logical. Who'd think.
Coll See St. Bedes
U Blues Lacking depth of a good red, and a little slow after a loss.
U Blacks I thought after their first win they would have a report. Schools holidays may have come early for the Blacks scribe. Prior to that, they had been offering well written inciteful articles with a black flavour. Hopefully school holidays finishes soon.
OB. Where do I start. If OB wrote on Bigfooty what they write (including audio) on their web site, St.Be and Coll would be seen as accurate and unbiased. Take their current review of their "Shock Loss" to the browns. Excusses excusses and more b l o o d y excusses. They write a whole article on a reserve grade umpire (M Sholly - Letter to follow?), then follow it up with an Audio commentry from buffon calling himself the Benchwarmer (aka Mr Excusses). If a club was every going to ammunition for the forthcoming game against OB, read their website its provides enough to win WWII. Go St Bedes.
For a club that was spent a total of 5 years in A grade in their history, they seem to have a lot to say for little return. Take some decorum leasons from some of the new boys St Be and Browns.
It is great that clubs spend the time on their sites and it makes for great reading and gives me something to do between Bold Beautiful and washing the spuds for the weekly roast.
Maxine Leader
Over The Post
25 Jun 2008, 00:21
OS over St Bedes - Every team has a bogey side, i think the scotchies are the tigers kryptonite.
...
Take it to the bank.
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Data: Yes, Captain?
Picard: Make it so!
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Hater in equal second? Words fail me.
Punch From Behind
25 Jun 2008, 08:26
[quote=Punch From Behind;11492099]
Having a laugh, yes I am. Your kidding yourself if you think the big ferg burger doesn't have a crack at his own team mates if they do not spot him up or the delivery is not up to scratch. Its a shocking thing for any player to do to his own team mates. St Bernards used to do it all the time, and when it started you knew you had them beat!!!!!
It also has nothing to do with the umpires, although he often winges to them as well.
Don't stoop down to the posters levels and make both personal and umpire excuses. Not doing any justice to yourself.
Definately not writing off the lions. Long way to go yet.
Mate, I am one of his team mates and i am telling you that while i am sure he does get frustrated with poor delivery at times he certainly doesn't spray his team mates for it. He gets more frustrated when we continue to look for him when he is being triple teamed as i said earlier. I take your point about knowing you've got a team beat when their players start berating each other but you are way off the mark with ferg, any criticisms he has are constructive and delivered at an appropriate time and in an appropriate way.
I am not making excuses I am telling you the reasons for his frustrations.
Punch From Behind
25 Jun 2008, 08:28
[quote=Punch From Behind;11492099]
Is one of the guys returning an old man who had 12 career hit outs in his time at swans/geelong?
Just ask leigh!
If that is the same ex swan/cat that big leigh told me averaged the most bounces a game with his non dominant hand in 1998 then yeh he is a chance in the next few weeks
ultimate hater
25 Jun 2008, 10:13
Bored Housewife reviews the A Grade Website Commentary
After 10 round I have been sitting home dwelling over the passing of Desparate Housewifes, Grey;'s and Brothers and Sisters. What is a bored housewife to do. Read A Grade Clubs websites1
OX claims that behind www.vafa.com.au (http://www.vafa.com.au) their site is the most important and best read website in the world. They are not far from the truth. Mr. Chips and the Sheik are incitefull and at times anti pushing OX's players to the for, except in the recent state game where they gave the best on ground to all the OX players (best thing written on any web site this year). They will pay compliments when warranted, and will critise their own again when warranted. Most Ammo slang appears to eminate from this site. Dairy Bell, Hedgeburners, Pine Lodge etc
De La. (Colin Glover) Writes with unabashed bias towards their club, rarely mentioning players from the opposition. Never detrimental to the opposition. Normally an accurate picture of the games proceedings seen from the De la perspective. Can be a little slow if they have had a loss, but they contribute none the less.
OI. I little late, but usually a well written piece, that gives a fair persective (somewhat taited with brown) of the preceeding games. Ends up with as much commentary about the games as what happens off the field.
OT. Like my Caeser salad, light and a little lacking in taste or volume. Usually leaves with some words of wisdom for the faithful
St. Bedes Unlike the boasting on this site, the commentary is rationale fair and logical. Who'd think.
Coll See St. Bedes
U Blues Lacking depth of a good red, and a little slow after a loss.
U Blacks I thought after their first win they would have a report. Schools holidays may have come early for the Blacks scribe. Prior to that, they had been offering well written inciteful articles with a black flavour. Hopefully school holidays finishes soon.
OB. Where do I start. If OB wrote on Bigfooty what they write (including audio) on their web site, St.Be and Coll would be seen as accurate and unbiased. Take their current review of their "Shock Loss" to the browns. Excusses excusses and more b l o o d y excusses. They write a whole article on a reserve grade umpire (M Sholly - Letter to follow?), then follow it up with an Audio commentry from buffon calling himself the Benchwarmer (aka Mr Excusses). If a club was every going to ammunition for the forthcoming game against OB, read their website its provides enough to win WWII. Go St Bedes.
For a club that was spent a total of 5 years in A grade in their history, they seem to have a lot to say for little return. Take some decorum leasons from some of the new boys St Be and Browns.
It is great that clubs spend the time on their sites and it makes for great reading and gives me something to do between Bold Beautiful and washing the spuds for the weekly roast.
Maxine Leader
bit hung up on OB maxine? what do chicks know anyway hey...
personally i think its entertaining.. obviously its bias, its not the sydney morning herald..
if every club website ran the same unbiased rubbish you might as well just have the single vafa site... as for the benchwarmer, if you dont like it, don't listen to it! there is a "warning" for thin skinned people like yourself there..
If the truth hurts, and you don’t support the Boys from the Beach, don’t bother clicking this section. Only the tough,
hard Red and Blue hearts can cop this. Historically, The Benchwarmer is steeped in prejudice against anything brown,
green and remotely North. We kick the cat after a hard day, gloat in victory and rub sea-salt into visitors’ wounds. No
good complaining. Cop it sweet. The Benchwarmer worships all things artistic, magical and centred between the major
erections for them. If you came to Beach Rd and got hammered, seek penance and try again. If you knocked us off,
the Benchwarmer will kick your balls until the seams split. You’ve been warned! The next five minutes will hurt somebody
…for them.
we try and pump up games as much we can and add a little spite where possible to try and get a crowd down and make for entertaining footy each week... so stop your whinging.. if you need to look at a web-stie for "ammunition" you're not going to get far..
next thing you know you'll be claiming posts from BigFooty as ammo... "Punch From Behind said this... lets smash 'em.."
ultimate hater
25 Jun 2008, 16:50
anyway, back to footy..
collegians might be a little worried coming into their game this weekend.. OI are in pretty good touch, lost to scotch by only 9 points, then kicked 9.18 against st bedes on a big running ground after being up at 3qtr time but then lose, beat uni away and then beat brighton at home...
massive possibility for the crumbles to have 3 losses in a row here... especially if its wet.. hope the grounds-keeper doesn't screw up the timer on the sprinklers again!!
BrianSpeaking
25 Jun 2008, 16:57
Just noticed this on the VAFA site. Must have been a pretty handy spray, can anyone enlighten us? Also it should be noted this game was played at Scotch College after the school firsts game, I imagine there would have been a fair crowd witness it, both young and old.
Results of Investigation Hearings – June 24, 2008
Old Xaverians charged with conduct unbecoming in that during their senior game against Old Scotch on June 14 the Old Xaverians coach, Simon Lethlean did allegedly use abusive language towards Umpire Koffman.
Charge proven. Simon Lethlean to write a letter of apology to the umpire and to the VAFAUA prior to coaching the side in his next available match in 2008.
Investigation panel will advise AFCA/VAFA through the VAFA of this penalty.
Club fined $500 and a further bond of $2000 for the coach to be of good behavior for the remainder of the 2008 season
BrianSpeaking
25 Jun 2008, 17:01
bit hung up on OB maxine? what do chicks know anyway hey...
personally i think its entertaining.. obviously its bias, its not the sydney morning herald..
if every club website ran the same unbiased rubbish you might as well just have the single vafa site... as for the benchwarmer, if you dont like it, don't listen to it! there is a "warning" for thin skinned people like yourself there..
we try and pump up games as much we can and add a little spite where possible to try and get a crowd down and make for entertaining footy each week... so stop your whinging.. if you need to look at a web-stie for "ammunition" you're not going to get far..
next thing you know you'll be claiming posts from BigFooty as ammo... "Punch From Behind said this... lets smash 'em.."
The Benchwarmer is an amateur sensation, he puts imposters like The Sheik to shame! Has been doing his best work for around 10 years, to the point where most VAFA lovers would call a number on Mondays to listen to his excellence of elocution.
Destination A Grade
25 Jun 2008, 17:02
Results of Investigation Hearings – June 24, 2008
Old Xaverians charged with conduct unbecoming in that during their senior game against Old Scotch on June 14 the Old Xaverians coach, Simon Lethlean did allegedly use abusive language towards Umpire Koffman.
Charge proven. Simon Lethlean to write a letter of apology to the umpire and to the VAFAUA prior to coaching the side in his next available match in 2008.
Investigation panel will advise AFCA/VAFA through the VAFA of this penalty.
Club fined $500 and a further bond of $2000 for the coach to be of good behavior for the remainder of the 2008 season
No community service?
The Big Pineapple
25 Jun 2008, 17:14
No community service?
Typical.
river man
25 Jun 2008, 17:23
No community service?
Pffft, community service. This bloke should be given a medal. They must have been bad for a winning coach to deliver a spray.
Over The Post
25 Jun 2008, 17:39
The Benchwarmer is an amateur sensation, he puts imposters like The Sheik to shame!
Just checked it out - he's a real sook when they go down, isn't he? Waaah, waaah.
soupsey
25 Jun 2008, 17:52
No community service?
Warranted and balanced feedback to umpire Koffman who clearly had an agenda. In over a decade I have never seen more than 4-5 over rules by the non officiating umpire. This peanut produced about 8. Also in over 200 games as a player/state rep, I've never seen Leathers gob off to an umpire. Tells us plenty I'd have thought. Let's hope this moron is umpiring in the junior levels from now on where being over officious sometimes works to keep the young guys in check.
Bigfootyfan
25 Jun 2008, 18:15
Koffman is a disgrace, one of the worst going around. Literally kept Blacks in the B grade GF last year.
Banish him for good!!!!!!!!
SharkBait
25 Jun 2008, 19:22
I have heard on the grapevine that Brett Collins will be transferring to Beaumaris before the 30 june deadline.
Is this the case? would be shattering for St.Bedes as he has played all of his junior football there.
Not sure why he would be interested in joining a club that will be pushed back to C grade next year
Bigfootyfan
25 Jun 2008, 19:41
I have heard on the grapevine that Brett Collins will be transferring to Beaumaris before the 30 june deadline.
Is this the case? would be shattering for St.Bedes as he has played all of his junior football there.
Not sure why he would be interested in joining a club that will be pushed back to C grade next year
Can guarantee that there is absolutely no chance of this happening. Is mates with some of the boys from Beauy who are also mates with a lot of our guys but thats as far as it goes. Is out injured at the moment and is raring to get back in a few weeks once his foot comes good.
ITSMYNAME
26 Jun 2008, 13:35
Pretty rare than an Old Xav person gets found guilty of anything at all.....
Kaufman is easily the worst umpire in the land.
When does this waste of time u/23 team get announced? Haven't they been pounded by S.A the last few times they have played?
I have heard on the grapevine that Brett Collins will be transferring to Beaumaris before the 30 june deadline.
Is this the case? would be shattering for St.Bedes as he has played all of his junior football there.
Not sure why he would be interested in joining a club that will be pushed back to C grade next year
SharkBait you are kidding yourself burt collins will be at st bedes. Not even the great man himself could save Beauy at the moment..