Time to drop Katich

[Uncle Harry]

I think it is time to drop Katich...He's had his chance to perform at the highest level and doesnt know how to play for the baggy green.
With Langer more than likely to play (tough nut) the selectors should be looking at Mike HUssey for the remainder of the summer.

All you have to do is look at the statistics

Mike Hussey
http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/australia/content/player/5939.html

first class ave: 52.80

Simon Katich
http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/australia/content/player/6128.html

First class ave: 49.71

i say no more
hussey has performed at a higher level for a longer period of time

[dan warna]

I think it is time to drop Katich...He's had his chance to perform at the highest level and doesnt know how to play for the baggy green.
With Langer more than likely to play (tough nut) the selectors should be looking at Mike HUssey for the remainder of the summer.

All you have to do is look at the statistics

Mike Hussey
http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/australia/content/player/5939.html

first class ave: 52.80

Simon Katich
http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/australia/content/player/6128.html

First class ave: 49.71

i say no more
hussey has performed at a higher level for a longer period of time

hussey didn't move to NSW...

if hussey moved to NSW and not katich you know who would have got national selection don't you...

[Uncle Harry]

good point
Katich is a clown and the fact he defected emphasises that

[LIONS then DAYLIGHT]

Give katich some more time to cement his spot, if he fails again in the next 1 or 2 test matches, by all means drop him and replace him with Hodge or Hussey.

[Ricketts]

Sure Katich has been teetering on getting the drop for a while now, but seriously, they're not gonna drop him now.

He has played well in the super series odi's and the recent Pura Cup game, so he'll be safe for the 1st test at least.

They havent dropped him yet, so they wont now.

[amnesiac]

katich is a selectors golden child, and although i think hussey or hodge would do a much better job for australia i don't see the selectors axing him.

for the record. lehmann has a higher fc average than them both at 56.33. really does not count for much.

[mcphee_is_a_gun]

As much as i hate to say it he should stay in the team after making a century and 80 odd hes obviously in good form however he should never of gotten a game in the first place.

[ManWithNoName]

Since the start of the tour of India last year Katos averaged 34, with 1 ton.

[eddiesmith]

Husseys pura cup average- 42

Katos- 53

Katich > Hussey

[chunkylover]

good point
Katich is a clown and the fact he defected emphasises that

thats rubbish katich left wa for very good reasons. the politics at the waca is bullsh%$ at the time when he was captain

[sinepari]

good point
Katich is a clown and the fact he defected emphasises that

You have no idea. Kat is one of the nicest blokes I've met. He is very genuine.

You obviously don't have an understanding of the politics at the WACA

[Jumpin' Jimmy]

You have no idea. Kat is one of the nicest blokes I've met. He is very genuine.

You obviously don't have an understanding of the politics at the WACASpot on!

Katman will be playing for Australia for a long, long time yet. After all he was anointed by the legend Steve Waugh as his heir apparent...... for good reason. The boy can play, has the right temperament and a great work ethic.

Moving to NSW shows how smart and determined he was to succeed :thumbsu: :thumbsu:

[dan warna]

IMO he shouldn't have been selected, once he was selected he should be given a fair run at the top.

IMO a fair few players weren't given a decent chance. Marto's first run, haydo's first run, elliots run etc.

i don't think katter is the next captain, but he deserve at least a complete series.

averaging 30 odd is not a failure, its treading water.
David Hussey would have been in the test side by now if he went to NSW instead of Victoria...
Batting and fielding averages
class mat inns no runs hs ave bf sr 100 50 ct st
First-class 56 81 9 3959 232* 54.98 5357 73.90 15 16 69 0
List A 65 61 10 1837 128 36.01 3 7 28

4000 runs at 54 and a 28 years old makes him a longer term prospect than hodge his older brother and co.

should have been ahead of clarke as well...

goes ok in ODIs as well.

david Hussey >>>>>>>Katich
David Hussey >>>>>>>Clarke

[Ricketts]

The thing is, whoever gets the spot as the 6th batsman in the team is going to be the worst.

No one is as good as the other 5 already in the team.

So the Katich fans will be the only ones happy with Katich in the team, and the Hodge fans will be the only ones happy with Hodge in the team, and the Hussey fans will be the only ones happy with Hussey in the team.

So whoever it is, they are going to clearly be the worst batsman out of the 6 in the lineup.

[eddiesmith]

The thing is, whoever gets the spot as the 6th batsman in the team is going to be the worst.

No one is as good as the other 5 already in the team.

So the Katich fans will be the only ones happy with Katich in the team, and the Hodge fans will be the only ones happy with Hodge in the team, and the Hussey fans will be the only ones happy with Hussey in the team.

So whoever it is, they are going to clearly be the worst batsman out of the 6 in the lineup.

Actually atm with Watto taking the 6th spot and Clarke in there, Katich aint the worst ;)

[LIONS then DAYLIGHT]

Actually atm with Watto taking the 6th spot and Clarke in there, Katich aint the worst ;)

Right know they're all better than Hodge aren't they, why, because Hodge isn't even in the team :D :D

[eddiesmith]

Right know they're all better than Hodge aren't they, why, because Hodge isn't even in the team :D :D
There is nothing that you could bring up that shows Watson better than Hodge, any comparative stats all show,

Hodge > Watson

[just maybe]

There is nothing that you could bring up that shows Watson better than Hodge, any comparative stats all show,

Hodge > Watson

No, Watson>Hodge

Age+potential+FC performance is the equation we use

Age: Watson is younger than Hodge
Winner: Watson

Potential: Hodge won't improve any further, Watson has very high scope for improvement
Winner: Watson

FC performance: Hodge, despite his years more experience, has only a marginally better record than Watson
Winner: Hodge, marginally

Two outright wins to Watson, one marginal win to Hodge, brings us to:

Watson>Hodge

[eddiesmith]

No, Watson>Hodge

Age+potential+FC performance is the equation we use

Age: Watson is younger than Hodge
Winner: Watson

Potential: Hodge won't improve any further, Watson has very high scope for improvement
Winner: Watson

FC performance: Hodge, despite his years more experience, has only a marginally better record than Watson
Winner: Hodge, marginally

Two outright wins to Watson, one marginal win to Hodge, brings us to:

Watson>Hodge

Hodge marginally? Riight, maybe Watsons average looks good because of less matches? Fact is he has 1 season above his current average, the next best season was 42, then in the 20's and 30's. Every year Hodge has had a far superior average to Watson, maybe Watson will just turn out to be a 1 season wonder which was the year where he had to bat well as he couldnt bowl otherwise he wouldnt get a game, yet still Hodgey had a better average in that season

Potential? Clarke has potential, he hasnt shown anything in a year, how long do you persist with these hacks?

What happens in 2 years, you realise that they are no good, suddenly a whole generation of players who were better are to old and you have to find another potential player, or you could get 4-5 years solid service out of Hodge and Hussey and look at Watson again in a few years, he will still have 8 or so years left and maybe by then he will be showing some of this alleged potential

Potential cost Australia the Ashes, be funny if it cost you a test against Bangladesh or Zimbabwe

[just maybe]

Hodge marginally? Riight, maybe Watsons average looks good because of less matches? Fact is he has 1 season above his current average, the next best season was 42, then in the 20's and 30's. Every year Hodge has had a far superior average to Watson, maybe Watson will just turn out to be a 1 season wonder which was the year where he had to bat well as he couldnt bowl otherwise he wouldnt get a game, yet still Hodgey had a better average in that season


Ah, lying again eddie! If Watson had only one season above his current average, and the rest were below it, it would be mathematically impossible for his average to be where it is unless Watson averaged several hundred in that season, which he clearly didn't.


Potential? Clarke has potential, he hasnt shown anything in a year, how long do you persist with these hacks?


How many Tests was it before Vaughan got out of the doldrums? How is Bell doing these days? What was Flintoff doing after 25 Tests?

Just because they take time to settle doesn't mean they're hacks eddie. As an England supporter, you should be the first to know this. You'd have no captain and no Man of the Ashes if your attitude was the one taken by England.


What happens in 2 years, you realise that they are no good, suddenly a whole generation of players who were better are to old and you have to find another potential player, or you could get 4-5 years solid service out of Hodge and Hussey and look at Watson again in a few years, he will still have 8 or so years left and maybe by then he will be showing some of this alleged potential


What makes you think they will be no good in 2 years? You've made so many false predictions it's probably time someone sewed up your mouth to stop the dribbling.

I mean, you make up exciting catches you took in weekend cricket just to try and get some credibility on this board.



Potential cost Australia the Ashes, be funny if it cost you a test against Bangladesh or Zimbabwe

Potential cost Australia the Ashes? A stupid statement even for you, eddie. It was the exact opposite.

And Watson and Clarke will fill their boots against Bangladesh and Zimbabwe, and you know it.

[eddiesmith]

Ah, lying again eddie! If Watson had only one season above his current average, and the rest were below it, it would be mathematically impossible for his average to be where it is unless Watson averaged several hundred in that season, which he clearly didn't.

Ok, its 2 seasons above his average, he burst onto the scene, dropped off, made a few runs and is dropping off again, missed his first season

How many Tests was it before Vaughan got out of the doldrums? How is Bell doing these days? What was Flintoff doing after 25 Tests?

Just because they take time to settle doesn't mean they're hacks eddie. As an England supporter, you should be the first to know this. You'd have no captain and no Man of the Ashes if your attitude was the one taken by England.

What makes you think they will be no good in 2 years? You've made so many false predictions it's probably time someone sewed up your mouth to stop the dribbling.

And we were losing reguarly, I thought Australians didnt accept losing? Plus we didnt have 10 players who were better than them waiting in the wings. As for Bell, 1 bad series and 1 good series, I will judge him after Pakistan, but he did more in 2 tests than Watson could dream of in his career

I mean, you make up exciting catches you took in weekend cricket just to try and get some credibility on this board.

Whatever

Potential cost Australia the Ashes? A stupid statement even for you, eddie. It was the exact opposite.

Australia would not have lost the Ashes if Lehmann was playing instead of Clarke

And Watson and Clarke will fill their boots against Bangladesh and Zimbabwe, and you know it.

I know, thats why it will be funny with Australia coming off a couple of series losses in a row seeing everyone get excited over Watson or Clarke making a 50 against these hacks

[just maybe]

Ok, its 2 seasons above his average, he burst onto the scene, dropped off, made a few runs and is dropping off again, missed his first season

Nope, you didn't check your facts again Eddie. An average of 42 for a season is not 'dropping off'.


And we were losing reguarly, I thought Australians didnt accept losing? Plus we didnt have 10 players who were better than them waiting in the wings. As for Bell, 1 bad series and 1 good series, I will judge him after Pakistan, but he did more in 2 tests than Watson could dream of in his career


Give Watson a Test or two against the Bangles and he'll make Bell look like a fool.


Whatever


That's exactly what I said when I read your made-up catch report!


Australia would not have lost the Ashes if Lehmann was playing instead of Clarke


True, but Clarke was not Lehmann's replacement - Katich was.


I know, thats why it will be funny with Australia coming off a couple of series losses in a row seeing everyone get excited over Watson or Clarke making a 50 against these hacks

A couple of series losses in a row? We narrowly lost the Ashes, then beat the World XI. You're lying again, eddie.

[eddiesmith]

Nope, you didn't check your facts again Eddie. An average of 42 for a season is not 'dropping off'.



Give Watson a Test or two against the Bangles and he'll make Bell look like a fool.



That's exactly what I said when I read your made-up catch report!



True, but Clarke was not Lehmann's replacement - Katich was.



A couple of series losses in a row? We narrowly lost the Ashes, then beat the World XI. You're lying again, eddie.

When you play Bangladesh and Zimbabwe you will becoming off a series loss to South Africa, possibly 2.

Oh, and 1 test doesnt equal a series under ICC regulations ;)

[just maybe]

When you play Bangladesh and Zimbabwe you will becoming off a series loss to South Africa, possibly 2.


You might want to put 'I predict' in there eddie, or you're just lying again.

[thehoff]

I think it is time to drop Katich...He's had his chance to perform at the highest level and doesnt know how to play for the baggy green.
With Langer more than likely to play (tough nut) the selectors should be looking at Mike HUssey for the remainder of the summer.

All you have to do is look at the statistics

Mike Hussey
http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/australia/content/player/5939.html

first class ave: 52.80

Simon Katich
http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/australia/content/player/6128.html

First class ave: 49.71

i say no more
hussey has performed at a higher level for a longer period of time

What about hodge? You're right on Katich though. He is not the man for the job!

[dan warna]

mmm have a look at David Hussey's FC form...

better than watson, hodge, katich and his older brother.

as for playing the bangers...lees bowling improved to 31 runs per wicket...

[Uncle Harry]

You have no idea. Kat is one of the nicest blokes I've met. He is very genuine.

You obviously don't have an understanding of the politics at the WACA

there is such a thing as toughing it out, not leaving when going gets tough...when was the last time he came into bat and saved the game for australia? hussey hung around when he could have joined his younger bro over east...he has saved australia's ass plenty of times in the one day game...he knows how to dig in

[Ricketts]

when was the last time he came into bat and saved the game for australia?

Australia V India. 2003/2004. 4th Test.

India V Australia. 2004/2005. 2nd Test.

England V Australia. 2005. 1st Test.

England V Australia. 2005. 4th Test.