View Full Version : Brett Lee gets first michelle since .. don't remember..
Anyways.. Kudos to Lee for ACTUALLY sticking to his plan of bowling Line and Length and it got the results, got a mix of both top order and lower order batsman.
Glad he used his head rather than having no brain and throwing it down
But let's NOT forget his 4 years of averaging over 40 with the ball.
Let's hope he can bring this into the next test match, rather than this being a one-off and the likely event of Lee returning to throw pies in the next match (where the latter is usually the case).
4 years since the last 5-for
amnesiac
6 Nov 2005, 13:51
against the windies when they were here last
LIONS then DAYLIGHT
6 Nov 2005, 13:54
Brett Lee's bowling average has gone from 33.04 down to 32.38 after this match.
Lets hope that it continues to drop.
Come on Brett.
Adelaide Hawk
6 Nov 2005, 13:56
I would imagine getting a 5 wicket haul with McGrath, Gillespie and Warne in the same attack would be rather difficult.
Brett Lee's bowling average has gone from 33.04 down to 32.38 after this match.
Lets hope that it continues to drop.
Come on Brett.
CMon brett and the rest od the aussie team maybe they need to do a rotation with a fst bowler and middle order to give some guys a go rotate hodge and katich and lee/bracken with some other fast bowler and since watson may be injured give another batsmen allrounder a go..
LIONS then DAYLIGHT
6 Nov 2005, 13:59
I would imagine getting a 5 wicket haul with McGrath, Gillespie and Warne in the same attack would be rather difficult.
Very good point indeed
:thumbsu:
Cooldude
6 Nov 2005, 14:00
I would imagine getting a 5 wicket haul with McGrath, Gillespie and Warne in the same attack would be rather difficult.
It's even more dififcult averaging 40 with a strike rate of over 60 balls for 5 years bowling with class bowlers like that
And Lee's done it, should he get a medal for it?
Adelaide Hawk
6 Nov 2005, 14:05
It's even more dififcult averaging 40 with a strike rate of over 60 balls for 5 years bowling with class bowlers like that
And Lee's done it, should he get a medal for it?
Why comment if you don't have a clue?
I would imagine getting a 5 wicket haul with McGrath, Gillespie and Warne in the same attack would be rather difficult.
Except if you check the matches, you'll find out Lee opened the bowling quite a bit, and bowled without having either McGrath or Gillespie in the lineup...and Warnie missed a year as well
Should have more 5 fers than he does, but well bowled today- if he keeps up half as well as he did today, he will win me over....big test will be how he goes against England next summer
The Schammerman #3
6 Nov 2005, 14:09
Brett Lee's bowling average has gone from 33.04 down to 32.38 after this match.
Lets hope that it continues to drop.
Come on Brett.
u'd rekon his average would be around 50 by the way some of these clowns act
Cooldude
6 Nov 2005, 14:09
Why comment if you don't have a clue?
Classy, intelligent and well-constructed comeback, It's fitting for someone who comes form Adelaide and supports the Hawks :D
Where were ya when Lee was getting spanked in the Ashes and the first innings? Good to see Lee lovers finally coming out of their holes after 5 long years :D
Johnson#26
6 Nov 2005, 14:12
I thought he got one in the 1st test vs NZ 2001/2002 at the Gabba? He was MOTM.
Very well bowled - may be beginning to hit his peak (awaits abuse).
I thought he got one in the 1st test vs NZ 2001/2002 at the Gabba?
hey, you're right! :thumbsu:
GoSydneySwans
6 Nov 2005, 14:25
Didn't get to see the day's play today, was he seriously bowling good line and length?
Great news if he was, because he could become a really good bowler if he deviates away from his bouncer, bouncer, bouncer plans.
dan warna
6 Nov 2005, 14:59
u'd rekon his average would be around 50 by the way some of these clowns act
er, his average has been around 40 for 4 1/2 years now, his career average about 32.
one innings and the messiah has arrived :confused:
Sylvia Saint
6 Nov 2005, 15:06
Well done Bing.
Surprise surprise, dan warna and Cooldude still find a way to bag him. :eek:
I would imagine getting a 5 wicket haul with McGrath, Gillespie and Warne in the same attack would be rather difficult.
Kasprowicz has done it a few times during his stint with those three. MacGill in Sydney as well iirc.
dan warna
6 Nov 2005, 16:50
Well done Bing.
Surprise surprise, dan warna and Cooldude still find a way to bag him. :eek:
im bagging the toolies
note I posted a thread re: the article about Brett lee growing up and not bowling rubbish anymore.
its idjits like starz who reckoned bing should go about the way he has been and nothing was wrong.
the first time he stops bowling pies and works on line and length instead, he gets his best results for 5 years.
suprise suprise.
well done brett lee for NOT listening to starz and co.
The Schammerman #3
6 Nov 2005, 16:57
er, his average has been around 40 for 4 1/2 years now, his career average about 32.
one innings and the messiah has arrived :confused:
Idiot. we talk about current averages. God you're a fool.
Oh Shane Warne averages 45 against india. What a hack.
Just shut your trap Dan Warna
ablettjnr
6 Nov 2005, 17:00
Idiot. we talk about current averages. God you're a fool.
Oh Shane Warne averages 45 against india. What a hack.
Just shut your trap Dan Warna
Wrong. You are a tool.
No wait, jump all over him, go for it.
I'll just hang back for a while, at least until he does something good, against a half decent opposition.
Umm do you really need to resort to abuse?
btw back onto topic. Lee's Test bowling average since 2001 has been hovering around the 40+ mark. 32+ career average.
Since he actually started listening to past legendary players to bowl line and length, he got the best results in a very LONG TIME.
People who make excuses for his mediocre results over the past few years is one of the many reasons that justifies Lee's continued bagging.
dan warna
6 Nov 2005, 17:21
dude your the loser in denial
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=208235
brett lee acknowledges he was underperforming, its you living in denial in la la land thinking everything is ok.
Cooldude
6 Nov 2005, 17:50
Well done Bing.
Surprise surprise, dan warna and Cooldude still find a way to bag him. :eek:
And surprise surprise, Lee lovers like you, who've disappeared for a while, suddenly appears outta nowhere like the Poms did when they won the Ashes :D
He bowled well today, in fact it just vindicates what people on here have been saying about him, including myself, that unless he starts to think about putting the ball consistently in the right areas, he won't be anymore than a ******** Test bowler
Today he actually did what we've all been saying along, apart from those morons on here who kept saying he's an "aggressive" bowler and line and length is not his thing, who now suddenly all come out and do a "told ya so", I would've thought we are the ones who should be doing the "told ya so". :D
dan warna
6 Nov 2005, 17:57
too true.
I noticed that when I posted a positive thread about him, they all jumped on and said nothing is wrong with him.
he changes his style and gets wickets.
as I've mentioned before Glen McGrath rarely cranks it up past 135 and he's one of the greatest bowlers of all time!
Lee this innings sorta reminded me of Gillespie when he was in his prime.
Reasonably fast around 140-145km/h, but bowled line and length.
Once again the unflappable dan warna and cooldude hand out yet another owning to starz, LtD, Adelaide Hawk, The Schammerman # 3 and co.
On another note, when are you, Adelaide Hawk, actually going to bestow us your wisdom on all things cricket, and actually post something more than the ultra repetitive line of "You know nothing about cricket do you?"
Bombers_Forever
6 Nov 2005, 18:44
It helps when the captain gives you all those overs- takes McGrath off and only gives Warne 2 overs.
Plus, look at the opposition.
Lee this innings sorta reminded me of Gillespie when he was in his prime.
Reasonably fast around 140-145km/h, but bowled line and length.
Good spot up. I have not been a Lee fan but I must admit he bowled well today.
Well done and keep it going.
The Schammerman #3
6 Nov 2005, 19:08
It helps when the captain gives you all those overs- takes McGrath off and only gives Warne 2 overs.
Plus, look at the opposition.
Oh Lara is crap, Chanderpaul is pathetic and Sarwan is a joke. LoL another idiot who has no idea.
Cooldude
6 Nov 2005, 19:10
He didn't get Lara, he didn't get Chanderpaul, and Sarwan is close to a joke (A man wasting his talents), so what's your point, if you have one at all?
The Schammerman #3
6 Nov 2005, 19:16
He didn't get Lara, he didn't get Chanderpaul, and Sarwan is close to a joke (A man wasting his talents), so what's your point, if you have one at all?
He bowled to all 3 of them. Didnt get smashed by either of them. Got 2 of them out. Now shut up.
Blues_Man
6 Nov 2005, 19:16
He didn't get Lara, he didn't get Chanderpaul, and Sarwan is close to a joke (A man wasting his talents), so what's your point, if you have one at all?
and whats your point ...or more importantly have you ever had one ??
your just another peanut who likes to knock Lee at any given opportunity. He is the best we have at them moment . there are no other bowlers to take his place ...so it's best to shut up and let him do his job and hopefully he will keep improving as he matures as a bowler
The Schammerman #3
6 Nov 2005, 19:18
and whats your point ...or more importantly have you ever had one ??
your just another peanut who likes to knock Lee at any given opportunity. He is the best we have at them moment . there are no other bowlers to take his place ...so it's best to shut up and let him do his job and hopefully he will keep improving as he matures as a bowler
the guy is in denial mate. Has no idea about cricket watsoever. Listens to his bum buddy dan warna
Cooldude
6 Nov 2005, 19:27
and whats your point ...or more importantly have you ever had one ??
your just another peanut who likes to knock Lee at any given opportunity. He is the best we have at them moment . there are no other bowlers to take his place ...so it's best to shut up and let him do his job and hopefully he will keep improving as he matures as a bowler
Blue Man calling someone else a peanut is like Paris Hilton calling someone else a whore :D Ah the irony
Cooldude
6 Nov 2005, 19:29
He bowled to all 3 of them. Didnt get smashed by either of them. Got 2 of them out. Now shut up.
You're just acting up like a child
Windies were chasing 509, they didn't need to play shots, they were playing for the draw.
And are you blind? He didn't get Lara or Chanderpaul in the 2nd innings, 1st innings was a shocker of an lbw. Do you even know what happened in the match?
The Schammerman #3
6 Nov 2005, 19:31
You're just acting up like a child
Windies were chasing 509, they didn't need to play shots, they were playing for the draw.
And are you blind? He didn't get Lara or Chanderpaul in the 2nd innings, 1st innings was a shocker of an lbw. Do you even know what happened in the match?
Excuses :) and by not playing shots it would be alot harder to take wickets.
5 cooldude 5. Thats right 5
Cooldude
6 Nov 2005, 19:34
Actually, the Windies batting was woefully indiscipline, they didn't bat for survival at all, Chris Gayle and Sarwan being prime examples.
Good to see you conveniently dodged the fact that you got the facts wrong :D
And when did I ever said that Lee didn't bowl well? You should read a page before btw to get a clue, which you obviously don't have "D
The Schammerman #3
6 Nov 2005, 19:35
Actually, the Windies batting was woefully indiscipline, they didn't bat for survival at all, Chris Gayle and Sarwan being prime examples.
more excuses :)
Cooldude
6 Nov 2005, 19:38
I've found the picture of Schammerman :D
http://astudios.org/kakka/moron.gif
I've found the picture of Schammerman :D
http://astudios.org/kakka/moron.gif
WTF??
I wouldnt read to much into Schammerman's comments, he has already proved to all of us that he is utterly idiotic.
the guy is in denial mate. Has no idea about cricket watsoever. Listens to his bum buddy dan warna
It's comment like this above that prove that some Lee fans STILL have no idea. Especially when he gets his first 5fer in what.. 4-5 years..
This was the same lot that said there was nothing wrong with his bowling.
EVEN Lee said he was underperforming, changed his actions and got his best figures in a VERY LONG Time.
Congrats to LEE for NOT listening to those that said there was nothing wrong.
dan warna
6 Nov 2005, 20:18
shammerman is going throug puberty give the little girl a break, and she's a little bit stupid too, so its no point shooting fish in a barrel.
SorryIHammerChicken
6 Nov 2005, 20:55
u'd rekon his average would be around 50 by the way some of these clowns act
I don't think 40 over the past 4 years is a good average....do you?
Good on Binga today though, he bowled pretty well.
On a side note, I tell ya those last 4 batsman aren't late-order, they're just bunnies. Cannot bat for sh*t. Has any of them actually scored over 10 in their careers?
Cooldude
6 Nov 2005, 20:59
Fidel Edwards's batting average is below 4, and he bats at 9
That doesn't bode well for Collymore and Lawson, does it?
And quite frankly Darren Powell must be one of the worst no.8s ever seen, he cannot bat
Which begs the question why Bravo didn't play, he bats and bowls better than any of them bar Collymore and Edwards
As much as Brett Lee has bowled shizenhousen since about early 2002, in the 18 months he became a waiter for the Australians he played about 4 first class games in that time before the ashes. hopefully after talking to many great aussie players the message to bowl like mcgrath stays in his head for more than 5 minutes and can live up to the obvious potential everyone knows he has.
On todays spell it merits a spot for the rest of the WI tour and the first SA test at least.
frankrizzo
6 Nov 2005, 21:36
While lee bowled well it’s simply the start of a lot of payback he owes for being carried for 4 years with awful bowling figures.
Added into that is the fact the conditions were dramatically favoring the quick’s.
We need bowlers who use their brains when the pitch favors the bat, after all for every wildly swinging gabba day we have 100 days of flat pitches in this modern era.
Seems to still be so many opinions given to lee, most experts with a half a brain realize his short fast bursts are no longer that useful he needs to rein it in and bowl with more control. It’s the only way when the decks aren’t giving you much help.
Unfortunately ponting has apparently told lee his only job is to bowl fast in short spells and now lee has come out just a week after saying line and length was the key and agreed with pontings idiotic notion the same notion that has netted lee such woeful figures for 4 years.
I really worry for this team’s future with the village idiot in charge.
frankrizzo
6 Nov 2005, 21:39
. hopefully after talking to many great aussie players the message to bowl like mcgrath stays in his head for more than 5 minutes .
"Brett is like he is because of his pace," Ponting said
'I'm there to bowl fast' - Lee
today's quotes.
Blues_Man
6 Nov 2005, 22:02
"Brett is like he is because of his pace," Ponting said
'I'm there to bowl fast' - Lee
today's quotes.
yeah your right once again , you complained bitterly in another thread about Ponting taking the light and missing out on making another 15 to 20 runs more than the 500 odd lead they already had, and now you believe...Lee should cut his bowling speed back to around 136 KMH. just what the Australian side needs is another trundler ...Ponting should go ..he can't bat he can't captain and he's a lousy fielder .. maybe you should be Australian captain ...your a friggen cricketing genius :rolleyes:
frankrizzo
6 Nov 2005, 22:13
No he should do what’s he' done for 4 years, bowl fast bowl erratically go for 5 an over and 40 runs per wicket.
One rolling of the windies in swinging conditions doesn’t change reality.
frankrizzo
6 Nov 2005, 22:14
Just for the record you agreed with ponting taking the light while two spinners were on?
Can I ask why you agree?
Crooked Rain
6 Nov 2005, 23:36
Well done Bing.
Surprise surprise, dan warna and Cooldude still find a way to bag him. :eek:
They have pretty good reason. His returns have been poor for a long time now. Good to see him skittle a few tail enders yesterday.
Crooked Rain
6 Nov 2005, 23:40
He bowled to all 3 of them. Didnt get smashed by either of them. Got 2 of them out. Now shut up.
Lara wasn't out. Just like Inzy wasn't out at the SCG.
Lee has benefitted from two of the worst LBW decisions in the past two tests and people still label him 'unlucky'.
"Brett is like he is because of his pace," Ponting said
'I'm there to bowl fast' - Lee
today's quotes.
i meant he can sill bowl fast, but bowl the same line and length as mcgrath
While lee bowled well it’s simply the start of a lot of payback he owes for being carried for 4 years with awful bowling figures.
Added into that is the fact the conditions were dramatically favoring the quick’s.
We need bowlers who use their brains when the pitch favors the bat, after all for every wildly swinging gabba day we have 100 days of flat pitches in this modern era.
Seems to still be so many opinions given to lee, most experts with a half a brain realize his short fast bursts are no longer that useful he needs to rein it in and bowl with more control. It’s the only way when the decks aren’t giving you much help.
Unfortunately ponting has apparently told lee his only job is to bowl fast in short spells and now lee has come out just a week after saying line and length was the key and agreed with pontings idiotic notion the same notion that has netted lee such woeful figures for 4 years.
I really worry for this team’s future with the village idiot in charge.
Very well said.
Lee bowled very well in overcast, humid conditions that were very favourable to the quicks, and to a batting line-up that had the collective heart the size of a pea. Bracken took 4 wickets in the conditions as well, and he is a fringe test player, so Lee's performance has to be taken in its context. Would like to see him back his 2nd innings performance up in Hobart next test.
SorryIHammerChicken
7 Nov 2005, 11:04
How can this bloke continually get a go for 4 years without a 5-fer? People like Elliott were given less chances, but there's no doubt about how good he could have been if given 4 years in the side.