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With the draft imminent, I thought we should take a guess on what Brisbane might select on Saturday.
On the basis that Kinnear has said that Brisbane will use 4 picks, let's see who can fluke somewhere close to the mark.
My picks aren't based on first hand knowledge but I reckon you can rely on the various player reports floating around and then make an guesstimate based on need.
I'll go with:
9 - Mitchell Clarke
25 - Todd Grima (although one of Lucy or Mills wouldn't surprise if they're still there)
41 - Daniel Dzufer
56 - On a tip from an mate of mine in Adelaide, one of the Lower boys
Now watch as another highly rated gun falls down the pecking order to be snaffled up by Brisbane at pick 9 :thumbsu:
macca69
21 Nov 2005, 17:08
#9 Paul Bower
#25 Daniel Dzufer
#41 Nick Lower
#56 Heath Hocking
Apparantly you guys are very keen on Bower at 9.
I would have thought Dzufer will go at 25, there has been a lot of interest in him and Sheehan had him in his top 30 (I think).
Have also heard Brisbane are interested in Lower and Hocking, but we all know how much of a lottery it is after pick 20 or so.
king_Brown
21 Nov 2005, 17:47
this is how i hope it goes
#9 Austin Lucy
#25 Wayde Mills
#41 Daniel Dzufer
(pretty sure we have pick 57 guys...)
#57 Ryan Cook
Hope I'm right :p :thumbsu:
beatnik
21 Nov 2005, 22:20
lions should go for jessie white - incredible athlete and 6'5 - 6'6
raw but could be an amazing KPP
king_Brown
22 Nov 2005, 08:19
lions should go for jessie white - incredible athlete and 6'5 - 6'6
raw but could be an amazing KPP
Footydraft.com has him goin to us at pick 41 but i seem to think that he will be rookied buy us
He does have talent though and is a big guy for his age
I'll go with:
[b]9 - Mitchell Clarke[\b]
25 - Todd Grima (although one of Lucy or Mills wouldn't surprise if they're still there)
41 - Daniel Dzufer
56 - On a tip from an mate of mine in Adelaide, one of the Lower boys
Another 200 odd cm athletic ruckman/forward with a questionable big game record? They surely wouldn't have the cahunas to pick him a month after Spaander?
9) Ellis may slip. If not Varcoe, Swallow, Pfieffer or Oakley-Nicholls.
25) Lucy, Bower, Spangher.
41) West, Dzufer, Mills.
56) Fixter
king_Brown
22 Nov 2005, 10:28
Another 200 odd cm athletic ruckman/forward with a questionable big game record? They surely wouldn't have the cahunas to pick him a month after Spaander?
9) Ellis may slip. If not Varcoe, Swallow, Pfieffer or Oakley-Nicholls.
25) Lucy, Bower, Spangher.
41) West, Dzufer, Mills.
56) Fixter
Latest news is Bower or Clarke at #9 and Lucy at pick #25
I personally hope we dont go after Clarke, i just dont think we need him
TheBrownDog
23 Nov 2005, 20:01
They obviously know its a gamble hoping that Lucy slips to 25, if not, im sure they'll one of the other promising QLD kids that are tipped to go in the 20s (Mills, Dzufer, Dempsey).
The Flying Belgian
23 Nov 2005, 20:34
Latest news is Bower or Clarke at #9 and Lucy at pick #25
I personally hope we dont go after Clarke, i just dont think we need him
The only news that has that is a few people doing phantom drafts here on BF. I'm not knocking those with the time, inclination and knowledge to whip up a phantom draft - but to treat them as any kind of source is unwise IMO.
Like last year, I hope we take the best available with the first pick then address our needs after that. We weren't after a ruckman last year, but when Cam Wood was still available we took him.
We may have designs on a certain type of player or indeed a certain player, but you can't foresee how things will pan out.
macca69
23 Nov 2005, 20:38
Latest news is Bower or Clarke at #9 and Lucy at pick #25
I personally hope we dont go after Clarke, i just dont think we need him
Rumour has it Clark to Carlton at pick 4.
tapestry
23 Nov 2005, 20:54
Personally I reckon any real top quality Qld kids they think they've a chance of getting would have already have had a chat with the club and would be ready to sign up as 2006 rookies. The likes of Lucy and Dzufer are not going to hang around long enough for us to pick them up with what value they'd be for us/round that would be suitable for us. WE can't just pick up a kid in the draft because he is a Qlder. He has to be what we need when we need it and the best of the best available at that pick for our needs, regardless of where he comes from.
I reckon that if Zantuck has been profiled as a good fit by our club psych and has had a good chat with Lethal (you gotta look at the timing there - looks like a late starter with training with another club, but actually happens a couple of days after Leigh is back on board at the Club from his honeymoon) then he'll end up on our list for next year.
What we missed this year was in order (IMO) Lynch and a Leppa replacement. Zantuck is set to fit the bill at both ends. Yes Brown will be there at the beginning of next year, and Leppa is well on the way to playing again - according to him at the function tonight where he says 12 weeks ago he was at 5% function and now is at 50% - BUT what if OP hits Brown again? Or Leppa's back packs it in again?
Attitude very well could be the problem, but Leigh is sitting on a 50/50 success rate. 1 x loss with Hueskes (but then again everyone lost with Hueskes) and 1 x win with Pike. That might just be good enough odds for them to consider Zantuck.
tapestry
23 Nov 2005, 20:56
I also wouldn't be surprised to see us go at older players this year too. Our sustained success on and off the field rests on being able to 'rebuild' while still playing finals football - even if it is just one week of finals football.
An established or semi-established player will slot in nicely with the blooded younsters of 2005.
There is no rule that says you have to pick kids year in and out. And to be honest we are looking at a 2 tier playing group now. The young and the old. No inbetweens except maybe Power. We need to bolster that area to remain moderatly competative.
Rawhead
23 Nov 2005, 21:28
I fully agree with that.
I'm not a Zantuck hater, I've seen this kid give some really great performances, and could be a real smokey pickup IMO. I understand peoples' reluctance as he has shown himself at times to be mentally weak, but if Lethal thinks he could have a crack at him, I'd be more than willing to give him a shot.
And as Tapestry said, there is a player age group that we lack in, and thats the 23-26 year old players, and Zantuck fits right in there.
this is how i hope it goes
#9 Austin Lucy
#25 Wayde Mills
#41 Daniel Dzufer
(pretty sure we have pick 57 guys...)
#57 Ryan Cook
Hope I'm right :p :thumbsu:
I am with you! Mills looks good.
We have #56, not #57 :)
I also wouldn't be surprised to see us go at older players this year too. Our sustained success on and off the field rests on being able to 'rebuild' while still playing finals football - even if it is just one week of finals football.
An established or semi-established player will slot in nicely with the blooded younsters of 2005.
There is no rule that says you have to pick kids year in and out. And to be honest we are looking at a 2 tier playing group now. The young and the old. No inbetweens except maybe Power. We need to bolster that area to remain moderatly competative.
Simon Black, might sneak into that age group too I think. But the point is very valid that there is a middle group missing. It's the result of losing kids in that mid range to other clubs. Obree, Bolton etc. and hanging on to people during the premiership run. There's still a few others that could go in that group - Charman, Copeland, Notting, but overall it is the weakest of the three age brackets.
Zantuck is about the same height bracket as Bunnings, Whitey and Drummo and shorter than Pikey and Hadley. That makes him big for onball, nice size for a flank but a ragdoll for any genuine key position, as Browny ably demonstrated earlier in the year.
He's no Lynch/Leppa replacement.
Captain Charisma
24 Nov 2005, 10:01
i would think seriously about a young tassie guy named Grant Birchall at #9 Incredible pace, very clean skills, strong mark and is 192 cm tall and can play as an on baller
i would think seriously about a young tassie guy named Grant Birchall at #9 Incredible pace, very clean skills, strong mark and is 192 cm tall and can play as an on baller
That's where Burgan has him going.
Another 200 odd cm athletic ruckman/forward with a questionable big game record? They surely wouldn't have the cahunas to pick him a month after Spaander?
I considered this but Clarke is a top 10 prospect in the draft whilst I think we got Spaander at 19 - that is a big difference in talent.
I agree that attitude might be a bit of a problem but if the previous 8 picks work out something like I think they might (which I am not divulging because I am guessing only!) then Clarke will be the best player available at 9. That is about as far as my reasoning went.
It's been long considered a weak draft though after the top 2 or 3 so the difference between Spaander at 19 and Clarke at 9 may be relatively insignificant. Everyone picked Wood for 8-10 and we got him at 19.
Just playing devil's advocate. A Jones or Swallow aren't likely to destroy opposition, but you're a 90% chance of locking in a 200 game player.
Spaanderman's draft year was interesting though in that Kepler Bradley was the only true KPP selected in the top 10. It looks like a midfielders draft. The other talls in the top 20 were the likes of Chaplin, Watts and Morrison - none of whom are stand-out KPPs yet and Spaanderman was still selected behind those. This year seems to be a KPP draft and the fact that Clarke is rated in the top 4-5 KPPs by most pundits is illustrative, IMO.
Don't know about the "weak draft" - I reckon this is something that is said most years...or at least something similar like "strong at the top but no depth". One man's weak draft is another man's "even spread of talent". Time will tell whether it actually applies to this year or not.
Gilly1972
24 Nov 2005, 14:41
For what it's worth, my mock draft has
#9 Hurn (too good to pass on if he slips as some predict)
#25 Bower
#41 Dzufer
#57 Roffey
I'm sure you guys would be pleased with that
Macca, i don't know if Clark will end up being on our radar at 4, i think it will be Dowler/Hurn or Kennedy at this stage...
Good luck on Sat :thumbsu:
cjwalkley
24 Nov 2005, 15:28
9 - Hurn, Clark, Birchall
25 - Lucy, Bower, Spangher
41 - Dzufer, M.Thomas, Mills
56 - Fixter or Green
for the record i'll go with birchall and lucy. No idea in the third round, one of the fixter/zantuck types in the fourth?