View Full Version : D4 Section Ammos pt 1 (2005-2007)
callitasitiz
6 Mar 2007, 15:03
getting back on to predictions for the season ahead. I don't think you can go past eltham and albert park if the recruiting i'm hearing out of there is correct it'll will be those two then daylight
guru out!
Eltham, Albert Park, St Marys, daylight; rest plan ahead for next season's survival.
Can't top the Centrals... We have recruited the GOD OF WAR!
I don't think Fabian from accounts can be construed as God of War unless he worked at AWB.
VL30J
Out on the Full
6 Mar 2007, 19:16
I can assure you anything you have heard about recruitment at Albert Park will be way off, we have a couple of new blokes but mostly just the same guys as last year.
Eltham will be early runners without a doubt, maybe learnt a few things about finals footy the last couple and have a good year.
Box Hill will be decent and obviously the 4 new unknown teams.
Not sure about that one. I've heard the Falcons have picked up a few guys from Old Camberwell - should do okay in D4!
I don't think Fabian from accounts can be construed as God of War unless he worked at AWB.
VL30J
http://www.ritilan.com/archives/images/2005/02/10/joey-thor.png
Fabian... from accounts.
Could This Be Callitasitiz?!?!
On second thought,the picture is in black and white,so it may be Spy1!!!
Falcons07
7 Mar 2007, 07:36
Not sure about that one. I've heard the Falcons have picked up a few guys from Old Camberwell - should do okay in D4!
I am, those boys trained once before Christmas and I am pretty sure they are going back to old camberwell, would of done a lot better than ok but gone unfortunetly!
I am, those boys trained once before Christmas and I am pretty sure they are going back to old camberwell, would of done a lot better than ok but gone unfortunetly!
Yes Falcon, that is a common happening at this level. A gun recruit may often appear for a week or two then desceetly slip back to his old club. Facilities are often the object that scares them off, and knowing the difficulties your club has regarding the GP, it must be hard to attract and keep new players.
Having said that; I feel you had the cattle last year. Injuries to key players at the wrong times definately skittled your season. Add to that the slow start to the 06 season (probably due in part to the aforementioned ground problems) and you were always coming into the wind.
Still this season there are now a lot of teams who are struggling to get on a footy ground to train. Maybe the playing field has been leveled a little your way.
I believe AP will make the five. Injuries could once again hurt as they don't quite have the depth of 4or 5 years ago, but at worst I see AP in the five.
:thumbsu:
Falcons07
7 Mar 2007, 13:03
Yeah I think you are pretty on the mark spy, pretty hard to compete with the facilities of a C grade club especially having no where to train.
Like you said we will be there abouts if we can keep most of the boys on the park, Gerard Collins is fit and injury free and we only got probably a game and a half out of him last year, massive inclusion for us.
Yes Falcon, that is a common happening at this level. A gun recruit may often appear for a week or two then desceetly slip back to his old club. Facilities are often the object that scares them off, and knowing the difficulties your club has regarding the GP, it must be hard to attract and keep new players.
Having said that; I feel you had the cattle last year. Injuries to key players at the wrong times definately skittled your season. Add to that the slow start to the 06 season (probably due in part to the aforementioned ground problems) and you were always coming into the wind.
Still this season there are now a lot of teams who are struggling to get on a footy ground to train. Maybe the playing field has been leveled a little your way.
I believe AP will make the five. Injuries could once again hurt as they don't quite have the depth of 4or 5 years ago, but at worst I see AP in the five.
:thumbsu:
Are Box Hill, Eltham, St Marys and Bulleen training on nice grounds? If so, AP are not exactly in the box seat....
Falcons07
7 Mar 2007, 14:04
Are Box Hill, Eltham, St Marys and Bulleen training on nice grounds? If so, AP are not exactly in the box seat....
We go through it every year though, not making excuses just saying we are used to not having our ground until about the 4th or 5th week of the season, it was the 10th game last year because of the Com Games.
Nobody from the actual club has said anything about us being in the box seat, to many unknowns for predictions this season!
We go through it every year though, not making excuses just saying we are used to not having our ground until about the 4th or 5th week of the season, it was the 10th game last year because of the Com Games.
Nobody from the actual club has said anything about us being in the box seat, to many unknowns for predictions this season!
Its funny that the committee dont consider moving to a ground that can accommodate you for the entire season...the grand prix isn't going anywhere for the next few years, so why play there?
Falcons07
7 Mar 2007, 14:39
Its funny that the committee dont consider moving to a ground that can accommodate you for the entire season...the grand prix isn't going anywhere for the next few years, so why play there?
We have tried but there really isnt many spare footy grounds ready to go in the area, there is a spare ground in Elwood but no clubhouse and I guess like most lower grade clubs have not got the finances to build one, which in turn takes away the little revenue we do get.
Plus once we do get back on the club rooms and facilities are pretty good.
We have tried but there really isnt many spare footy grounds ready to go in the area, there is a spare ground in Elwood but no clubhouse and I guess like most lower grade clubs have not got the finances to build one, which in turn takes away the little revenue we do get.
Plus once we do get back on the club rooms and facilities are pretty good.
:mad:One would think that with all the 100 of thousands of $ that the government spends on the GP that they could put an underpass under the train line near these grounds as alternative access,or forgo one ground and make another access point,or is that expecting too much?,too much spent on an elite "sport" that supposedly"showcases Melbourne"whilst grass roots sport that has people actually participating is left for dead.With all the current talk on obescity,wonder how they can justify that???:(
callitasitiz
8 Mar 2007, 00:42
:mad:One would think that with all the 100 of thousands of $ that the government spends on the GP that they could put an underpass under the train line near these grounds as alternative access,or forgo one ground and make another access point,or is that expecting too much?,too much spent on an elite "sport" that supposedly"showcases Melbourne"whilst grass roots sport that has people actually participating is left for dead.With all the current talk on obescity,wonder how they can justify that???:(
C where ya coming from Nellup (brain dead); let's just throw in a
grandstand, motel and the kitchen sink while we're at it.:confused:
C where ya coming from Nellup (brain dead); let's just throw in a
grandstand, motel and the kitchen sink while we're at it.:confused:
Gee, some venom there.:mad:
Nelly; might have someone here who may have recieved the odd card from you. And I don't mean xmas card.
It is a credit to the people of Albert Park FC to still be around and competitive. We have felt the same pressures at South Melbourne Districts over the years and I must say while it is extremely difficult on the playing group spare a thought for the presidents and commitees who while trying to do their best for the club keep banging their head against the brick walls of the GP corp and Parks Victoria. It is a miracle anyone is left at these clubs to even unlock the clubrooms.
Public opinion in the area is that not only does the GP interupt sporting clubs but also commercial business'. There are rumblings that the GP's days at Albert Park are numbered, hopefully this is the last year.
THE BEACON
8 Mar 2007, 10:23
Rumoured that South Morningtom have picked up Tim Allen ex Mornington Premiership Player. Will add experience to line up if true.
Falcons07
8 Mar 2007, 10:47
It is a credit to the people of Albert Park FC to still be around and competitive. We have felt the same pressures at South Melbourne Districts over the years and I must say while it is extremely difficult on the playing group spare a thought for the presidents and commitees who while trying to do their best for the club keep banging their head against the brick walls of the GP corp and Parks Victoria. It is a miracle anyone is left at these clubs to even unlock the clubrooms.
Public opinion in the area is that not only does the GP interupt sporting clubs but also commercial business'. There are rumblings that the GP's days at Albert Park are numbered, hopefully this is the last year.
Definitely agree, our prez and commitees work so hard for the players at our club no matter how frustrating it gets, cant see it being the last year for the grand prix even though any other business that gets subsidised millions of dollars by the government every year and still loses money would of gone a long time ago.
Dont get me wrong love the grand prix, just tough going through this every year.
Falcons07
8 Mar 2007, 14:42
SFL just postponend season by 2 weeks, starting 28th and having no weekends (queens bday included) off.
C where ya coming from Nellup (brain dead); let's just throw in a
grandstand, motel and the kitchen sink while we're at it.:confused:
:cool:Politicians an callitasitiz are like nappies,they should be changed regularly, and for the same reason.:p
InFineForm
8 Mar 2007, 15:55
:cool:Politicians an callitasitiz are like nappies,they should be changed regularly, and for the same reason.:p
Funny. Like it a lot... :thumbsu:
smokingjoe49
8 Mar 2007, 22:49
Im sure St Mary's recruiting can't go unnoticed, return of Jedda, and that young on baller thats getting paid $800.00 a game that came 3rd in A grade league b&f from Marcilen surely the best pcik up in D4???
rumour has it they have also picked up St Kevins XVIII captain from 2006,
callitasitiz
8 Mar 2007, 23:48
:cool:Politicians an callitasitiz are like nappies,they should be changed regularly, and for the same reason.:p
Ripper nellup. The giant has awakened. Sweet dreams.
Best leave the light on.......those pollies really are honest people.
Any word on how the Hoers are travelling?
JP the Chinaman
10 Mar 2007, 12:05
Season must be close...JP is back from summer of hibernation...gooday all...this should be a huge SEASON...forget all that rubbish about water restrictions, grass or no grass, all them Aboriginal players play bare feet in the dirt...and they seem to be super stars...I reckon we should start the banter about who's going to beat who and who's going to dominate where... Good luck to all and should be a fantastic season ahead...
mrposession
12 Mar 2007, 08:13
Word on the street is that Syndal is in all sorts of strife for season 2007. Thier coach was dumped at end of 2006 season and then took on the role of president late last year. 2 weeks ago he was given the flick from that during a board meeting and most of the board followed suit and walked. On field they have lost Robbinson (easily their best player) their captian, vice captian and at least half a dozen more senior players. Word is they are looking to put a request to the vafa to move to club 18.
Gee, some venom there.:mad:
Nelly; might have someone here who may have recieved the odd card from you. And I don't mean xmas card.
:confused:Now this has caused a rethink,callitasitiz may not be the meditterrrrranean manipulator,methinks the card hint may reffer to a certain purveyor of technology,known to have "played" in the asian theatre mid season,could it be he still holds a grudge?
I made him famous,he was the 1st to be sent off at Narita,the only 1st he is likely to have in his career!:p
I to have venom,though the fangs are a bit worn nowdays.
This must be driving the other threaders crazy,I know its personal but we are having fun.:D
:confused:Now this has caused a rethink,callitasitiz may not be the meditterrrrranean manipulator,methinks the card hint may reffer to a certain purveyor of technology,known to have "played" in the asian theatre mid season,could it be he still holds a grudge?
I made him famous,he was the 1st to be sent off at Narita,the only 1st he is likely to have in his career!:p
I to have venom,though the fangs are a bit worn nowdays.
This must be driving the other threaders crazy,I know its personal but we are having fun.:D
Not so sure Nelly. I swear on the shoes I left in Hiroshima that I don't know who the Caller is.
I don't think it is the lesser #11 though. He may sell the technology, but in my experience he has trouble working out things like registering for Big Footy.
I admit the grudge scenario certainly fits. But I think we need to look outside the immediate suspects.
Spoke to our mediterannean friend and convinced it is not him.
Season must be close...JP is back from summer of hibernation...gooday all...this should be a huge SEASON...forget all that rubbish about water restrictions, grass or no grass, all them Aboriginal players play bare feet in the dirt...and they seem to be super stars...I reckon we should start the banter about who's going to beat who and who's going to dominate where... Good luck to all and should be a fantastic season ahead...
Welcome back JP. We missed you.:thumbsu:
JP the Chinaman
12 Mar 2007, 12:48
Lesser 11 is taking 11 this season off me...I'm going to have to settle with a single digit...only because I respect my elderly...:thumbsu:
callitasitiz
12 Mar 2007, 19:04
Lesser 11 is taking 11 this season off me...I'm going to have to settle with a single digit...only because I respect my elderly...:thumbsu:
Great to b back JP? Any further knowledge regarding digits can be acquired from our club pro nellup. Has a KNACK with 'em!
Great to b back JP? Any further knowledge regarding digits can be acquired from our club pro nellup. Has a KNACK with 'em!
:confused:Are,"our club pro",callitasitiz, the 'our" meaning we are in a club together,is this another hint?what club could you and I be in?I am not a member of any footy club as such,this is getting really interesting!!!!
Well spy1,yet another hint,any thoughts?this person is a bigger tease than my first girlfriend.
Arrhaa,the only 2 people that would know what I am like with my fingers are my wife and a certain club president whose legs I rubbed in the asian theatre,
a strong possibility.;)
JP the Chinaman
12 Mar 2007, 21:10
I reckon I have seen and talked to SPY1 on more than one occasion...What's the Asian Theatre?
I reckon I have seen and talked to SPY1 on more than one occasion...What's the Asian Theatre?
Just Nelly being ambiguos again. He wasn't sat in some Sex Theartre of Little Bourke St rubbing some President up. Though ..... no let's not get mental pictures of that.
He is, I assume just refering to Narita Cup (as in Asian Theatre of war) and giving the President, of the team he travelled with, a rub down pre game.
Mouth guards could be a handy thing to have tomorrow night. I hear there will be no slalom.;)
What's with the lessor #11 pulling rank.
Played golf with him today and he flies out tomorrow night to China; for up to a month. That would take him past Jumper Presentation night.
When is this poor old croc going to get any training, let alone play a game?
Sorry Nelly no new thoughts on the ID of Caller.
callitasitiz
12 Mar 2007, 22:12
Just Nelly being ambiguos again. He wasn't sat in some Sex Theartre of Little Bourke St rubbing some President up. Though ..... no let's not get mental pictures of that.
He is, I assume just refering to Narita Cup (as in Asian Theatre of war) and giving the President, of the team he travelled with, a rub down pre game.
Mouth guards could be a handy thing to have tomorrow night. I hear there will be no slalom.;)
What's with the lessor #11 pulling rank.
Played golf with him today and he flies out tomorrow night to China; for up to a month. That would take him past Jumper Presentation night.
When is this poor old croc going to get any training, let alone play a game?
Sorry Nelly no new thoughts on the ID of Caller.
Yes, that is all the verification our credible Bigfooty Forum requires.
Nellup brushes his digit....al skills at those Sex Cinemas in Lt Bourke St.
No wonder they named Goldfingers after him!
Yes, that is all the verification our credible Bigfooty Forum requires.
Nellup brushes his digit....al skills at those Sex Cinemas in Lt Bourke St.
No wonder they named Goldfingers after him!
;)ARRRHAAA!!!!!,callitasitiz,so I am obviously of the mark ;so,a rethink,spy1,as he has stated "our club",I am now thinking that this may be one of my partners in crime,the possabilities up there are endless,training shortly so I will keep my ears open.
port-man_fc
13 Mar 2007, 08:55
What is the garbage on hear??? im sick of reading this crap u blokes talk, (nellup, spy1, JP, callitasitiz) rarely seeing a post about D4 ammos, a post from "mrposession" goes unnoticed -
Massive rumour mrposession, it would almost kill that club to lose those players (as your rumour suggests Club 18), mind u it is not suprising, the club didnt seem united on the field last year, and from memory G.Healy (a gun for them) walked off at half time a couple of times because of the coach??
What is the garbage on hear??? im sick of reading this crap u blokes talk, (nellup, spy1, JP, callitasitiz) rarely seeing a post about D4 ammos, a post from "mrposession" goes unnoticed -
Massive rumour mrposession, it would almost kill that club to lose those players (as your rumour suggests Club 18), mind u it is not suprising, the club didnt seem united on the field last year, and from memory G.Healy (a gun for them) walked off at half time a couple of times because of the coach??
C Cachia will be playing for St Johns (D2 I think) this year.
What is the garbage on hear??? im sick of reading this crap u blokes talk, (nellup, spy1, JP, callitasitiz) rarely seeing a post about D4 ammos, a post from "mrposession" goes unnoticed -
Massive rumour mrposession, it would almost kill that club to lose those players (as your rumour suggests Club 18), mind u it is not suprising, the club didnt seem united on the field last year, and from memory G.Healy (a gun for them) walked off at half time a couple of times because of the coach??
If the VAFA didn't let them move to club 18, then it sounds like there would be a few forfeits? No one wants that, except maybe the councils.
Falcons07
13 Mar 2007, 11:10
If the VAFA didn't let them move to club 18, then it sounds like there would be a few forfeits? No one wants that, except maybe the councils.
No loss, they were one of if not the dirtiest team we played all year, there ressies game against us was a disgrace with guys being belted in the back of the head and kicked on the ground all day.
When there are decent teams in the SFL trying to get into Ammos especially now there season is delayed I say let them in and send the rabble to clubbies or further.
Centrals07
13 Mar 2007, 11:19
No loss, they were one of if not the dirtiest team we played all year, there ressies game against us was a disgrace with guys being belted in the back of the head and kicked on the ground all day.
When there are decent teams in the SFL trying to get into Ammos especially now there season is delayed I say let them in and send the rabble to clubbies or further.
No way... definitely keep them in D4. Give us a chance to extract a bit of revenge on them this season!
Seriously though, Richmond Centrals have been through tough times... but we keep fronting up for the challenge. Surely they can show a bit of heart and get things happening this season. They won senior and reserve flags earlier this decade - they can't just allow the club to fall in a heap.
Ifeellikechickentonight
13 Mar 2007, 11:48
Word on the street is that Syndal is in all sorts of strife for season 2007. Thier coach was dumped at end of 2006 season and then took on the role of president late last year. 2 weeks ago he was given the flick from that during a board meeting and most of the board followed suit and walked. On field they have lost Robbinson (easily their best player) their captian, vice captian and at least half a dozen more senior players. Word is they are looking to put a request to the vafa to move to club 18.
I hope first and foremost they got rid of that dirty dog they have as their reserves umpire! Anyone else have bad experiences with their reserves and in particular their reserves umpire?
port-man_fc
13 Mar 2007, 12:05
I hope first and foremost they got rid of that dirty dog they have as their reserves umpire! Anyone else have bad experiences with their reserves and in particular their reserves umpire?
Had problems with their seniors at their ground, they blatantly went the knuckle after halftime.... i also have little respect for the club after an incident @ the Tribunal... i dont wish them success but dont wish them to fold or resort to clubbies
callitasitiz
13 Mar 2007, 14:58
I hope first and foremost they got rid of that dirty dog they have as their reserves umpire! Anyone else have bad experiences with their reserves and in particular their reserves umpire?
Any umpire who helps out as a volunteer ump in D4 ressies cannot possibly be worse than any of the hacks that have been spotted down there as paid whistle blowers in past seasons.
Any learned observations among our posters?
callitasitiz
13 Mar 2007, 15:00
;)ARRRHAAA!!!!!,callitasitiz,so I am obviously of the mark ;so,a rethink,spy1,as he has stated "our club",I am now thinking that this may be one of my partners in crime,the possabilities up there are endless,training shortly so I will keep my ears open.
Ears open; arggh another first nellup. Now try and open those eyes!
Chewbacca
13 Mar 2007, 16:20
I found Syndal to do a couple of dirty things against us but at least it was to your face and they were willing to get back what they dished out. There are a fair few teams in this league that strugle from the pretty rich boy syndrome where they think that the more muscles they have and the shinier they are the tougher the individual.
Shame that they are losing their gun players though. Didn't mind Syndal too much although their reserves umpire was nearly a bigger cheat than Hawthorns. And that's saying a lot.
And by the way i totally agree with Nellup needing to open his eyes a little more. Or at least get glasses or something.
topturtle
13 Mar 2007, 16:30
I hope first and foremost they got rid of that dirty dog they have as their reserves umpire! Anyone else have bad experiences with their reserves and in particular their reserves umpire?
A big call re: reserves ump. From experience I would suggest that most clubs believe that their reserves ump is the only honest one around and that every other bloke favours his own team....When the Syndal 2's journeyed out to Eltham last year they were umpired by club stalwart Burnsie - definately not a cheat, calls it as he sees it.
As for the club, I hope they stick at it - as the Centrals have. You never know how many blokes you can pick up in the last weeks before the season starts. Happened at the turtles a few years back, we were getting 15 blokes or so to training until two weeks before the season, then picked up a dozen or more. We still had an average season but it was better than dropping back.
Falcons07
13 Mar 2007, 16:41
Anyway back to the footy side of things, was having a beer with a couple of St Marys boys on Sunday arvo and they were pretty confident, said they had a mid fielder that no one will get near and some young bloke up forward who will kick bags, should be interesting as we have them first up and I am guessing everyone will be a little underdone in match fitness.
I reckon there will be a few surprise results in the first 5 weeks, but it will all settle down after that???
A big call re: reserves ump. From experience I would suggest that most clubs believe that their reserves ump is the only honest one around and that every other bloke favours his own team....When the Syndal 2's journeyed out to Eltham last year they were umpired by club stalwart Burnsie - definately not a cheat, calls it as he sees it.
As for the club, I hope they stick at it - as the Centrals have. You never know how many blokes you can pick up in the last weeks before the season starts. Happened at the turtles a few years back, we were getting 15 blokes or so to training until two weeks before the season, then picked up a dozen or more. We still had an average season but it was better than dropping back.
Played most of my stellar football life in the ressies, got to say I saw some absolute shockers in the ways of umpires, but always paid respect to the fact that they are doing it on a volunteer basis and basically without em it's hard to play a match! Just suck it up and get on with the game.
Syndal on the brink eh? Chocolates to boiled lollies in 3-4 years! Never good to see a club down the tubes though, even if they are a bunch of asses!
Question: How come no one has really rated Uni for this season?
bowman11
13 Mar 2007, 17:09
I hope first and foremost they got rid of that dirty dog they have as their reserves umpire! Anyone else have bad experiences with their reserves and in particular their reserves umpire?
Worst of the lot by a mile - he is the main reason their reserves go the knuckle - our game was nearly called off last year. Blatant cheat - has been reported to the ammos as well!
Out on the Full
13 Mar 2007, 17:30
Word on the street is that Syndal is in all sorts of strife for season 2007. Thier coach was dumped at end of 2006 season and then took on the role of president late last year. 2 weeks ago he was given the flick from that during a board meeting and most of the board followed suit and walked. On field they have lost Robbinson (easily their best player) their captian, vice captian and at least half a dozen more senior players. Word is they are looking to put a request to the vafa to move to club 18.
What's your source Mr Posession? Which street were you on when you heard this vicious rumour?:confused:
Central Element
13 Mar 2007, 17:37
Is this rumour rock solid or are you all writing Syndal's obituaries a bit prematurely?
Nonetheless found last year their senior coach was a ****er and they had some real idiots in their reserves. Especially one who gave a running commentary of threats -- if you touch me I'm gonna kill you, come near me you're dead, I'll kill you if you do that again etc. -- wasn't impressed to be told he issued more warnings than the weather bureau :D
No problem with their umpire though. If you've seen the Hawthorn one you've seen it all...
Let me introduce myself, I am Manny DeBono Senior Coach of Syndal. Reading with interest some of the talk on this forum. Let me clear the air,
Syndal like a number of clubs are struggling due to have now where to train at the moment due to drought, small paddocks is not everyone's cup of tea.
Yes we have had our issues off field, but we are now trying to rebuild, rather than walking away and shutting the doors.
We have had probably in excess of 45 different faces at training
Yes we have lost some good players to other Ammo clubs - mainly higher division
I am not aware of what went on in the past but can tell you Syndal will play a good hard, but fair brand of football, just like all the other teams.
This club is run by volunteers just like yours and they do not deserve some of the crap being written - players come and go but these people remain regardless, again just like the people that run your respective clubs.I will always be available to answer any rumors or questions about Syndal
I have put my name to this, maybe others should also have the courage to do the same.
Manny DeBono
Again with the ump bashing?
Young or just new umps start,because they are young or new they make a few mistakes,they get abused,they leave.
New umps recruited,and the cycle continues,and you are left with the so called "hacks" as refered to above,these "hacks" are generally very experienced umps,who call it as they see it,and don't just see a mark or free kick from one perspective.
Most umpire observers,[yes umps are observed on average every second week,sometimes more often,] have umps with 3 mistakes a game,how many players if they were brutally honest with themselves make less than 3 mistakes a game,and I cannot count the times when a player who spat the dummy throughout a game has admitted that the free he gave away was justified,at the after match ofcourse!
Lets put our cards on the table,VAFA have apppointed a full time umpires director,who has 2 part time assistants,think that might indicate that they are serious don't you,these people bust their arses to improve umpiring and recruit new umps,but if players and officials don't show new umps and all umps respect, recruitment is extremely difficult.
I know,respect has to be earnt not given,but how can anyone get the experience to earn respect if they are not given the fair go they deserve.
Just try it sometime,I have NEVER had anybody try it that hasn't said it wasn't a hard gig and that they have gotten a whole new outlook on the umps after they have umpired 1 quarter.
Come on players,how many times through a game have you kicked yourself for hand balling when you should have kicked,coaches ever made a move that was wrong,give em a go fellas,the more young ones we get to stay,the more so called "hacks" will be able to retire.[but if we did how would you play,ask yourself that?]
I think this is called outing oneself.
callitasitiz
13 Mar 2007, 22:37
Nellup you must be Jeff Geischen I say. Talk about unleash the geish.
You were outed by Spy1 and whatever President in that VIP area of those cinema complexes and now you are sticking up for the umps. You have to be on the stuff those Eagle players are allegedly partaking in. There are some reasonable experienced and younger umps in the higher grades but from what we saw towards the end of last season in some D2 and D4 games we may as well as had Stevie Wonder running around. We all acknowledge there is plenty of rubbish in D4 which is this forum and now that acclaim you are out of the wardrobe you use the players as an example to justify the umpiring fraternity.
callitasitiz
13 Mar 2007, 22:44
Good on ya Manny DeBono.
Well written and not unlike many clubs in the D grade echelon. Most lower grade clubs have the rare one or two that partake in most of the hard slog with those usual others with many ideas and much to say.
Unfortunately, that is where it ends and some clubs fall over as a result.
Hope there other genuine supporters of Manny and Syndal Football Club willing to put in the hard yards in the shorter term and rekindle the flame.
Seems to be a negative with that ressies umpire but from all reports a very well run canteen for the punters.
Let me introduce myself, I am Manny DeBono Senior Coach of Syndal. Reading with interest some of the talk on this forum. Let me clear the air,
Syndal like a number of clubs are struggling due to have now where to train at the moment due to drought, small paddocks is not everyone's cup of tea.
Yes we have had our issues off field, but we are now trying to rebuild, rather than walking away and shutting the doors.
We have had probably in excess of 45 different faces at training
Yes we have lost some good players to other Ammo clubs - mainly higher division
I am not aware of what went on in the past but can tell you Syndal will play a good hard, but fair brand of football, just like all the other teams.
This club is run by volunteers just like yours and they do not deserve some of the crap being written - players come and go but these people remain regardless, again just like the people that run your respective clubs.I will always be available to answer any rumors or questions about Syndal
I have put my name to this, maybe others should also have the courage to do the same.
Manny DeBono
:thumbsu:Takes courage to put your name out their Manny,although I think I just did the same!
All power to your arm mate,one step at a time for both you and centrals, and the clubs mr everythings will stand by the club and you both will rebuild and probaly come back stronger for the adversity.:thumbsu:
Nellup you must be Jeff Geischen I say. Talk about unleash the geish.
You were outed by Spy1 and whatever President in that VIP area of those cinema complexes and now you are sticking up for the umps. You have to be on the stuff those Eagle players are allegedly partaking in. There are some reasonable experienced and younger umps in the higher grades but from what we saw towards the end of last season in some D2 and D4 games we may as well as had Stevie Wonder running around. We all acknowledge there is plenty of rubbish in D4 which is this forum and now that acclaim you are out of the wardrobe you use the players as an example to justify the umpiring fraternity.
:cool:Jeeeze I'm tempted to reply but get thee behind me satin:rolleyes:
catscratches
14 Mar 2007, 02:31
Eltham
Albert Park
Box Hill North
UHS-VU
Richmond Central
Bulleen Cobras
St Marys
Mt Lilydale
South Mornington
Syndal Tally Ho
Eley Park Sharks
North Brunswick
Centrals07
14 Mar 2007, 08:48
Let me introduce myself, I am Manny DeBono Senior Coach of Syndal. Reading with interest some of the talk on this forum. Let me clear the air,
Syndal like a number of clubs are struggling due to have now where to train at the moment due to drought, small paddocks is not everyone's cup of tea.
Yes we have had our issues off field, but we are now trying to rebuild, rather than walking away and shutting the doors.
We have had probably in excess of 45 different faces at training
Yes we have lost some good players to other Ammo clubs - mainly higher division
I am not aware of what went on in the past but can tell you Syndal will play a good hard, but fair brand of football, just like all the other teams.
This club is run by volunteers just like yours and they do not deserve some of the crap being written - players come and go but these people remain regardless, again just like the people that run your respective clubs.I will always be available to answer any rumors or questions about Syndal
I have put my name to this, maybe others should also have the courage to do the same.
Manny DeBono
Well done Manny for showing some real G&D in getting the club up and running through the tough times.:thumbsu:
All the best for the upcoming season and looking forward to a beer after the game.
Eltham
Albert Park
Box Hill North
UHS-VU
Richmond Central
Bulleen Cobras
St Marys
Mt Lilydale
South Mornington
Syndal Tally Ho
Eley Park Sharks
North Brunswick
Must be a Centrals player ;)
catscratches
14 Mar 2007, 10:51
Must be a Centrals player ;)
Or perhaps just someone who likes to pour petrol on the barbie to see the flames get higher.
I was speaking with an ex Centrals player who said he had been down to a couple of training sessions and the difference from last season was significant. And from watching a few of the D4 games last year, it would only take a few sides to lose a couple of players, and a few sides to gain a few, for there to be a fair shift in the ladder. Perhaps even more dramatic than what I have predicted.
;)ARRRHAAA!!!!!,callitasitiz,so I am obviously of the mark ;so,a rethink,spy1,as he has stated "our club",I am now thinking that this may be one of my partners in crime,the possibilities up there are endless,training shortly so I will keep my ears open.
What's this?
I nearly choked on my coffee.
The Great 'Nelly' going to maggott training.:eek:
Has Benny seen the light and granted a reprieve from the drudgery of potty training the toddlers in the U/19s?
Could it be true we may once again hear those dulcet baritone instructions to "Play on" in D4.
I did read on another thread that the VAFA office boy's have taken to browsing the VAFA board. What chance then that 'Caller' could be none other than the 'rug wearer' himself? Our boy Benny.:eek:
On a more important matter; I also say good on you Manny. Wish you luck in your strive to turn around the fortunes at Syndal.
It was only a few months ago we were seeing constant rumours of the Cobras imploding and imminent demise. All went quiet and one can only assume that their heads are down and their bums are up working hard to right the ship and have an enjoyable season.
Clubs like Richmond and Box Hill North are proving it's not dollars that are most valuable to a team and club, but hard working, committed individuals. Sport is about fun. I know from personal experience that you don't have to actually win a flag to gain a feeling of accomplishment. Ask any of the guys from Richmond how they felt about 2006. I'm sure the first things that comes to mind are fighting off a take over bid pre-season and fielding 2 teams, every week, that played with great spirit. Considering they were given the last rights by many, when St Kevins were howling at their door, they now are looking ahead to a ever brighter future. And they can see the fruits of their labors. The rewards for the hard work. And there is the enjoyment. The satisfaction of achieving a goal, even if the first goal is simply survival.
Stay strong in you belief Manny and those around you will follow.:thumbsu:
Ratfink
14 Mar 2007, 11:46
Seems to be a negative with that ressies umpire but from all reports a very well run canteen for the punters.
Gotta agree, the salad rolls (with beetroot!) at Syndal last year were a big double thumber.
callitasitiz
14 Mar 2007, 12:00
Nellup, give up trying to run and have a bounce when you are unable to, as well as hallucinating over the great fraternity of umpiring.
Back to the real stuff, sensational if Centrals were to go gangbusters this season and add some popularity to the comp as neutral observers, seeing we are all employed with the One Eyed Gazette.
We repeat word round the traps St Marys hot faves with Eltham and Albert Park right on their heels. Not much about for UHS?
See very little in improvement amongst last season's combatants apart from Centrals?
InFineForm
14 Mar 2007, 16:11
D4 is back to a four for this year because of the drought....:thumbsd:
Falcons07
14 Mar 2007, 16:13
D4 is back to a four for this year because of the drought....:thumbsd:
Geez thats tough, 12 teams and a four.
For those that haven't heard :
We are at the stage of the year where councils are endeavouring to prepare the grounds for the season ahead. As cricket is now finishing, work on the grounds was scheduled to commence last week. Unfortunately due to the lack of rain and the high temperatures, councils have had to delay any seeding of the grounds. Once seeded these grounds need 3 – 4 weeks before they are ready for a season of football
Our season is scheduled to begin on April 14 which is four weeks from this Saturday. Consequently, if we don’t receive any rainfall soon, we will be faced with the possibility of a late start to the season. Whilst there is a possibility of the competition commencing on April 14 we will continue to strive for this date.
One council, Glen Eira, has closed their grounds until April 28. This affects six VAFA clubs. Presently we are confident of securing alternative arrangements for these clubs to play their matches on time. However if other councils follow the Glen Eira approach then we will have no alternative but to put back our season and commence on April 28.
It was anticipated that one of the strengths of the competition would be the availability of school grounds but unfortunately many of our clubs who do use their school’s grounds for home matches have been told that they will either have restricted use or in some cases have been told that they cannot use the grounds at all.
If it doesn’t rain for another week and more councils have closed their grounds, then we will commence our season on April 28. If that decision is made then the following will occur.
We will transfer Round 1 to the week after Round 18.
Round 2 would be played on the Queen’s Birthday weekend.
Round 1 for A, B, C and U19 1 & 2 would be played on September 1.
Round 1 for D1 – D4 & U19 3, N & S would be played on August 25.
Club XVIII, due to commence on April 21, would have their Round 1 fixture played on the Queens Birthday weekend and therefore no change to Club XVIII finals. Their season would also commence on April 28.
The A – D4 representative match against the SFL has been cancelled.
The U19 match against AFL Queensland, scheduled for the Queen’s Birthday weekend, will go ahead as we are just establishing a relationship and want this fixture to continue long term.
The Bye weekend in July for A, B, C and U19 1 & 2 still remains thus our representative Football commitments for that weekend remain unchanged.
D4 will revert to a final four as we are not able to guarantee finals grounds at that stage of the season.
D1 – D4, U19 3, N & S will have their finals brought back a week to commence on the weekend of September 1/2 and concluding on the weekend of September 15/16.
A, B, C, U19 1 & 2 finals will commence on the weekend of September 8/9 and conclude on the weekend of September 15/16.
A and B Section will revert from a four week finals series to a three week series.
Note: a) The reason why we are shifting Round 1 to the end of the year and not to the Queens Birthday weekend is because you would all play the same team twice in three weeks.
b) We are not able to take the fixture back by two weeks and play the scheduled Round 1 games on April 28 as the fixture is too complex and arrangements have been made with outside agencies regarding ground usage.
We are able to accommodate all A, B, C and Under 19 1 & 2 Finals as they are played at Sportscover Arena and Sandringham and have already been booked. The difficulties may occur on Grand Final weekend for D1 – D4 and U19 3, N & S as the preferred grounds may be required for cricket preparations. We have requested to councils that as our season has been taken back two weeks then cricket should, if necessary, be taken back one week to accommodate our finals.
There will no doubt be variations to some of the fixtures and we urge all clubs to work together to ensure all games are played. A spirit of co-operation will be required.
This alternative schedule is only if we are not able to begin on April 14. A decision on this is likely to be made by the end of next week.
The fixtures for all Club XVIII and Under 19 3, N & S will be distributed on Friday.
If you have any operational questions could you please direct them to Jeremy Bourke and for all other enquiries contact me directly.
Thank you for your patience and we look forward to the commencement of the season.
Kind Regards
Michael Sholly
Chief Executive Officer
;)Just as well the asian theatre was put back to October Spy1
callitasitiz
14 Mar 2007, 20:14
;)Just as well the asian theatre was put back to October Spy1
Easy as pie looking at previous posts. Spy1 and nellup are either the same conglomerate or let's just say very friendly. Together Sunday on the golf course folks?
callitasitiz
14 Mar 2007, 20:19
Callitasiiz.............................without a shadow of a doubt the season will be significantly shorter in the lower grades without substantial rain over the next fortnight. Insurance asessors would be non compliant let alone incompetent to have the season commence as scheduled.
The majority of grounds are clearly a hazard to the players and one never knows. Could be an 11 round home and away fixture thrown into the mix with the final four.
With St Marys, Albert Park and Eltham the trifecta who is leading the scramble for fourth? Eley Park, UHS or even Box Hill North or Mt Lilydale?
Nonetheless found last year their senior coach was a ****er and they had some real idiots in their reserves. Especially one who gave a running commentary of threats -- if you touch me I'm gonna kill you, come near me you're dead, I'll kill you if you do that again etc. -- wasn't impressed to be told he issued more warnings than the weather bureau :D
No problem with their umpire though. If you've seen the Hawthorn one you've seen it all...
Must be that time of the month for you Miss Element though its good to see women involved in the game. I suggest you should take up a different sport perhaps http://www.altervistas.com/sites/weird/451 which you would be perhaps more suited to.
Callitasiiz.............................without a shadow of a doubt the season will be significantly shorter in the lower grades without substantial rain over the next fortnight. Insurance asessors would be non compliant let alone incompetent to have the season commence as scheduled.
The majority of grounds are clearly a hazard to the players and one never knows. Could be an 11 round home and away fixture thrown into the mix with the final four.
With St Marys, Albert Park and Eltham the trifecta who is leading the scramble for fourth? Eley Park, UHS or even Box Hill North or Mt Lilydale?
:confused:Don't know where you are getting your info from callitasitiz,but I prefer to look at the rational briefing by the VAFA ceo as put here by spy1,and this is but one plan to cope with the dry,
spy1,you are a brave man,"the rug wearer"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,boy can you expect some contovertial appointments this season,if,as you say, the boys in the big house do have the odd look in on us:D.
BarryDawson
15 Mar 2007, 00:28
Must be that time of the month for you Miss Element though its good to see women involved in the game. I suggest you should take up a different sport perhaps http://www.altervistas.com/sites/weird/451 which you would be perhaps more suited to.
Top post bud, maybe when you put the bong down we'll all get what your on about!
BarryDawson
15 Mar 2007, 00:30
Must be that time of the month for you Miss Element though its good to see women involved in the game. I suggest you should take up a different sport perhaps http://www.altervistas.com/sites/weird/451 which you would be perhaps more suited to.
Jeffrey Farmer, are you out drunk again?
Falcons07
15 Mar 2007, 11:24
Rain tonight and all day tomorrow, fingers crossed boys!
Geez the ground we are training on is rock hard, plenty of boys pulling up real sore.
Anyone else got praccy games???
At this stage we have nothing!
Rain tonight and all day tomorrow, fingers crossed boys!
Geez the ground we are training on is rock hard, plenty of boys pulling up real sore.
Anyone else got praccy games???
At this stage we have nothing!
The snakes have a few lined up...
Rain tonight and all day tomorrow, fingers crossed boys!
Geez the ground we are training on is rock hard, plenty of boys pulling up real sore.
Anyone else got praccy games???
At this stage we have nothing!
The problem at the moment is that if the season is delayed, do coaches really want to be playing praccy games now, surely there is enough unplayable grounds out there for VAFA to make their decision - as a senior coach its crucial for this decision to be made immediately one way or the other.
Manny DeBono
Falcons07
15 Mar 2007, 13:46
The problem at the moment is that if the season is delayed, do coaches really want to be playing praccy games now, surely there is enough unplayable grounds out there for VAFA to make their decision - as a senior coach its crucial for this decision to be made immediately one way or the other.
Manny DeBono
Definitely agree, a week ago they told us it would definitely start on time even if there was no change in conditions, I think everyone just wants a solid decision either way.
Obviously being a senior coach is even worse with not knowing at what stage the boys need to be, I guess everyone has to be ready for a 14th start then reassess when they change there minds again!
Rain tonight and all day tomorrow, fingers crossed boys!
thanks be to Rob Gell ;)
Abba Lonie
15 Mar 2007, 14:51
Official word has been distributed that the season will commence on April 28, two weeks late.
*Round 1 will be played after round 18
*Round 2 will be played on Queen's Birthday weekend
*D4 will have a final 4 as ground availability can't be guaranteed.
Red Gum
15 Mar 2007, 15:41
The problem at the moment is that if the season is delayed, do coaches really want to be playing praccy games now, surely there is enough unplayable grounds out there for VAFA to make their decision - as a senior coach its crucial for this decision to be made immediately one way or the other.
Manny DeBono
They have. It was posted earlier on this thread, on the drought thread and is now available on the VAFA website.
callitasitiz
15 Mar 2007, 20:16
:confused:Don't know where you are getting your info from callitasitiz,but I prefer to look at the rational briefing by the VAFA ceo as put here by spy1,and this is but one plan to cope with the dry,
spy1,you are a brave man,"the rug wearer"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,boy can you expect some contovertial appointments this season,if,as you say, the boys in the big house do have the odd look in on us:D.
Ahahhh Nellup. Must query your understanding of rational. Changes already being made and the distinct possibility to further reductions to the season in lower grades if no decent rainfall.
I still keep shouting abuse amidst my sleep to all those umpires for those bum decisons which must amount to hundereds over many seasons. How many goals would I have dobbed if decisions were correctly adjudged?
Central Element
15 Mar 2007, 20:34
Must be that time of the month for you Miss Element though its good to see women involved in the game. I suggest you should take up a different sport perhaps http://www.altervistas.com/sites/weird/451 which you would be perhaps more suited to.
Gave your concept due consideration C3PO but decided it would be cruel to put my butler out of a job.
:DOk all,we seem to have formed quite a family here,by that I ,we are all having a ,friendly go at each other,so,thought it might be interesting if those that want to meet up before the season kicks of ,now 28th April,as nearly everyone has reverted to Tuesday & Thursday training now I propose a Monday night,with partner,to keep us nice.
Recently had dinner at Moorrabin Tafe restaurant run by the students,the head Chef and Teacher is a personal friend.
The Deal,must be seated by 6:15 [the kids have to get home at resonable hour you see],cost $35 cultural theme night meditteranean,some beverages included on this theme night and fully licensed,the kids doing waiting and bar courses look after you,drink prices are reasonable,fantastic food as Mondays are 3rd year apprentices.
If anyone is interested in getting together,to reveal all,I will post my email address ,probably have to look at Monday 16th April so I can pre book,have to be quick as limited to 40 seats,if interested let me know.:
P.S once we book it ,it has to stand folks,as it is a school.
Chewbacca
16 Mar 2007, 08:23
???????????????
Let's keep it footy boys. If you want to run personals to find a date do it in the Hearld Sun or something.
My team got into the good hard physical stuff last night at training and boy it felt good. I think this year will be a lot more physical than recent especially when we all have to play our first games in the wet.
port-man_fc
16 Mar 2007, 09:59
Rain at last!!! Not sure how much we got but in the north eastern suburb we had light to moderate rain from at least 6am to 8.30am, not sure what time it started ???
Did other areas also get rain??
InFineForm
16 Mar 2007, 10:06
Rain at last!!! Not sure how much we got but in the north eastern suburb we had light to moderate rain from at least 6am to 8.30am, not sure what time it started ???
Did other areas also get rain??
If that is the best we get this weekend, it may be a while b4 we get away...
Rain at last!!! Not sure how much we got but in the north eastern suburb we had light to moderate rain from at least 6am to 8.30am, not sure what time it started ???
Did other areas also get rain??
Its been raining most of the morning here in hawthorn. :) :) :)
Falcons07
16 Mar 2007, 10:49
We had a bit bayside, not enough to get crazy about but fingers crossed its enough for some reseading by the councils.
Just my opinion buit I reckon the season will be fine to start on the 28th, hoping anyway.
As said in previous posts VAFA has to much to lose if the season folds, at worst we will be playing games at odd times and different grounds.
We had a bit bayside, not enough to get crazy about but fingers crossed its enough for some reseading by the councils.
Just my opinion buit I reckon the season will be fine to start on the 28th, hoping anyway.
As said in previous posts VAFA has to much to lose if the season folds, at worst we will be playing games at odd times and different grounds.
Not alot of rain in Mt Waverley area, blue sky and warming up again.
If it gets to a stage where the season is delayed even further, you would think clubs affilation fees would need to be recalculated. I hope I am wrong but still think not a lot will change by the 28th - councils in our area have not started to prepare grounds for rain.
How many rounds will constitute a season - 11, 9? interesting.
Munro_Mick
16 Mar 2007, 12:34
It'll take more than 5 mm here and there. That won't even get us to average rainfall figures.
But....
I grew up in the bush - we didn't always have the advantage of 'city water' (pinched from country rivers to service watering lawns/drive ways/water features/spa baths/median strips etc) - so every pre-season and early season was played on grounds where the only water they saw most of the summer was around the rock hard cricket pitch.
A lot of the Melb grounds are on sand belts any way - and really, who cares if the grass is struggling, a least the weeds look green.
Maybe a sandy/dirt ground will be better than some of the cow paddocks.
Although I'd imagine Mt Lilydales ground will always be relatively lush - with a pleasant odour and after taste.
knackers_2
16 Mar 2007, 12:51
I grew up in the bush - we didn't always have the advantage of 'city water' (pinched from country rivers to service watering lawns/drive ways/water features/spa baths/median strips etc) - so every pre-season and early season was played on grounds where the only water they saw most of the summer was around the rock hard cricket pitch.
Maybe a sandy/dirt ground will be better than some of the cow paddocks.
I grew up "in the bush" too, Mick, and I didn't see a lot of water being stolen by the city.
The VAFA won't make a call on whether or not the season goes ahead, or in what format, based on your opinion nor the opinions of individuals on Big Footy. The big decision makers are in local Councils and insurance companies, end of story. Consideration will given to all of the stakeholders, but they shoulder the consequences (and therefore responsibility) of playing on underprepared surfaces.
Lakey11
16 Mar 2007, 13:29
I grew up "in the bush" too, Mick, and I didn't see a lot of water being stolen by the city.
The VAFA won't make a call on whether or not the season goes ahead, or in what format, based on your opinion nor the opinions of individuals on Big Footy. The big decision makers are in local Councils and insurance companies, end of story. Consideration will given to all of the stakeholders, but they shoulder the consequences (and therefore responsibility) of playing on underprepared surfaces.
Its a shame to have our season dictated by councils and insurers, but your right and thats life.
Seems everyone has gone soft though. I remember playing on seriously hard dirt in the early 90's and even on gravaly crap up to recent. Yes its a bit hard, but really, when your fat, slow and can't get off the ground like me, then the surface doesn't matter!
I'd be happy to sign a waiver to play on anything. VERY ITCHY FEET!
Munro_Mick
16 Mar 2007, 13:54
I grew up "in the bush" too, Mick, and I didn't see a lot of water being stolen by the city.
Ah, gee, how to tell you I was mostly joking - alas, I'll use an icon next time so you don't take it too seriously.
[I recognise that not all people grew up down stream of the Thomson River dam.]
At any rate - we could all go around in runners with knee pads on & pretend we were playing on synthetic surfaces, or play a version of 'Recreational Footy' - perhaps a 9 aside variant....a bit like AussieRulesinSchools in the UK.
callitasitiz
17 Mar 2007, 14:01
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Let's keep it footy boys. If you want to run personals to find a date do it in the Hearld Sun or something.
My team got into the good hard physical stuff last night at training and boy it felt good. I think this year will be a lot more physical than recent especially when we all have to play our first games in the wet.
Bit late for the hard stuff Chewbacca. Mark your team down for the lower echelon at season's end. Which team?
As for a wet start to the season. Dreaming again!
Abba Lonie
18 Mar 2007, 16:43
Bit late for the hard stuff Chewbacca. Mark your team down for the lower echelon at season's end. Which team?
As for a wet start to the season. Dreaming again!
Hardness doesn't need to be practiced as much, its the fit teams that are fitter than the others who will perform. The teams who were hard last year are the same teams who will be hard this year.
PointPaul
18 Mar 2007, 17:45
Couple of players from a D4 finals team of last year spotted loitering in the shady areas of Port Melbourne well into St Pat's night. Crazy attire and special ties order of the day. An accomplice Gilligan perhaps leading this pair astray?
Funkygriff
18 Mar 2007, 21:38
Just wondering why everyone has picked Nth Brunswick to finish so low...Anyone care to comment/share their thoughts...
callitasitiz
18 Mar 2007, 22:32
Just wondering why everyone has picked Nth Brunswick to finish so low...Anyone care to comment/share their thoughts...
As always just calling it as it iz.
Long odds on double; North Brunswick/North Melbourne. Previous form and the season ahead.