Chappell Hadlee squad announced

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from http://www.cricket.com.au/default.aspx?s=mediareleasedisplay&id=35717

Ricky Ponting (c) TAS 30 235
Adam Gilchrist (vc) WA 34 222
Nathan Bracken NSW 28 20
Stuart Clark NSW 30 1
Michael Clarke NSW 24 60
Brad Hodge VIC 31 0
Brad Hogg WA 34 68
Michael Hussey WA 30 18
Simon Katich NSW 30 19
Michael Lewis VIC 31 0
Brett Lee NSW 29 115
Andrew Symonds QLD 30 127
Cameron White VIC 22 3

[Gunnar Longshanks]

from http://www.cricket.com.au/default.aspx?s=mediareleasedisplay&id=35717

Ricky Ponting (c) TAS 30 235
Adam Gilchrist (vc) WA 34 222
Nathan Bracken NSW 28 20
Stuart Clark NSW 30 1
Michael Clarke NSW 24 60
Brad Hodge VIC 31 0
Brad Hogg WA 34 68
Michael Hussey WA 30 18
Simon Katich NSW 30 19
Michael Lewis VIC 31 0
Brett Lee NSW 29 115
Andrew Symonds QLD 30 127
Cameron White VIC 22 3Isn't it meant to be a 14-man squad?

No Jaques. No McGrath. No Haddin.

Looks like Slow Simon will be opening the batting.

Will Hodge get much of a run? How many batsmen can we fit in the same team?

[mcphee_is_a_gun]

Mcgrath is being rested. 3 Vics in the squad what the hell is going on? Good luck to Lewis a well deserved inclusion.

[GoOsH1]

2007 world cup squad IMO. Or pretty damn close to it.

[Bombers_Forever]

Jaques should get a gig ahead of Katich

Resting McGrath is a big risk- probably does not show a lot of respect for the opposition

[Gunnar Longshanks]

2007 world cup squad IMO. Or pretty damn close to it.Are you kidding?

No McGrath. No Haddin. No Jaques. No Warne. No Tait. No Watson.

I'd say at least 3 of that Chappell-Hadlee squad won't be at the WC: Hogg, Katich and either Lewis or Clark. Not sure about Hodge either.

There are still a few changes to be made to that squad.

[stmookeyj]

Can you say MICKEY MOUSE series?

[eddiesmith]

******** THIS ******** :mad:

Bloody typical, take all the Vics best players, leave NSW with a couple of players who should be there

McGrath better not play the Pura Cup game

[eddiesmith]

Isn't it meant to be a 14-man squad?

No Jaques. No McGrath. No Haddin.

Looks like Slow Simon will be opening the batting.

Will Hodge get much of a run? How many batsmen can we fit in the same team?

4 pace bowlers, 1 of them will miss each match, if its fair Bracken, Clark and Lewis will miss 1 game each

[ThePope]

My Australian XI for the first game...
1 Simon Katich
2 Adam Gilchrist (vice-capt, wk)
3 Ricky Ponting (capt)
4 Michael Clarke
5 Mike Hussey
6 Andrew Symonds
7 Cameron White
8 Brett Lee
9 Nathan Bracken
10 Stuart Clark
11 Michael Lewis

12 Brad Hodge - may get a game if they think 3 quicks and White/Symonds/Huss/Clarke/Kat/Punter can bowl 20 overs between them.
Looks strange without McGrath, Dizzy, Kasper...
13 Brad Hogg - can't seem them playing Hogg straight up.

[eddiesmith]

A guaranteed 6 points down the drain :(

I would say they would most likely play in all 3 games
Katich
Gilchrist
Ponting
Hodge
Clarke
Symonds
Hussey
Hogg
Lee
Bracken
Clark

Super Sub: White

Lewis

With Lewis changing with Clark or Bracken for the 2nd game and the other missing the 3rd

The real question will be, will Ponting finally give White a go in any of the 3 games

[DynamoUltra]

Stuart Clark... WHAT...... THE....... ********?????

[apollo_creed]

2007 world cup squad IMO. Or pretty damn close to it.
Hahahaha.

Where should I start?

McGrath is a certainty for the squad and Tait would be at about a 90% chance at this stage to be in it. Someone like Dorey could bolt as well, his height could cause all sorts of problems on West Indian wickets. Damien Wright isn't beyond the realms of possibility, would add batting depth as well as consistent bowling. Kasprowicz, Gillespie, Bichel, M.Johnson and Rofe would all be in with some chance as well.

To say the quicks will be,

Lee
Bracken
S.Clark
Lewis

is ridiculous.

McGrath
Lee
Tait
Lewis

for me. I can't imagine anyone would be stupid enough to argue with that.

And the World Cup squad will probably be 16 players, so as the fifth quick is they choose to take one I'd be going for Dorey. At this stage it should be noted.

Batting wise,

Martyn's exclusion from the test side means his performances in the one-day arena will be monitored closely. He should be too classy to lose his place but a shortish form slump could well be the end of his international career.

None of Hodge, Hussey and Katich are anywhere near close to safe in the one-day side. None are established players, and when you're not an established player losing your spot becomes a much more probable possibility.

I think Hodge and Hussey will be in the squad. Katich no, at best he may he the 2nd or 3rd back-up batsman but I suspect Jacques will be opening the innings before long.

Michael Clarke simply isn't that good, and if he plays to his ability then his place could well come under question within 1 and a half years or whatever there is to go.

Guys like D.Hussey and Jacques will both put pressure on.

What else is there?

Brad Hogg???

Cameron White???

I think White will be there because of his batting strength, because lets face it on the strength of his bowling theres probably at least ten better Australian spinners running around.

A Warne return isn't out of the realms of possibility.

And Dan Cullen, with his newly acquired contract and continued good form could get a look in. Although I doubt it.

Keepers, well that'll pretty much be Gilchrist and Haddin.

All-Rounders,

Theres Watson, White and Symonds.

James Hopes will probably find himself challenging these blokes.

To say that the squad here is pretty much it is ignorant, stupid, wrong (I could go on all day).

[TheColeTrain]

Will be looking forward to seeing Lewis show up the NSW hacks Braken and Clarke

[usalion]

******** THIS ******** :mad:

Bloody typical, take all the Vics best players, leave NSW with a couple of players who should be there

McGrath better not play the Pura Cup game

Gee, finally recognize Victoria as a state and you still *****
Do you ever have anything nice to say?

[eddiesmith]

Gee, finally recognize Victoria as a state and you still *****
Do you ever have anything nice to say?
Its just a coincidence I am sure that the week we play NSW they finally decide to give a few players a trip to NZ to sit around and watch

Be suprised if more than 1 ever gets included in the XI, its a joke

Jaques should be in that side, what else does he have to do?

[usalion]

Its just a coincidence I am sure that the week we play NSW they finally decide to give a few players a trip to NZ to sit around and watch

Be suprised if more than 1 ever gets included in the XI, its a joke

Jaques should be in that side, what else does he have to do?

5 NSW- only McGrath left out from the established group
Haddin injured
Jaques unlucky, but he'd take the spot of a NSW player

3 Vics- Hodge should be in, White ought to be preferred over a recovering Hogg (why take him?) and Lewis into the mix with the quicks.

Welcome to 12th man world, which Mcgrath, Kasper, Bic and Lee have endured for so long.

[eddiesmith]

5 NSW- only McGrath left out from the established group
Haddin injured
Jaques unlucky, but he'd take the spot of a NSW player

3 Vics- Hodge should be in, White ought to be preferred over a recovering Hogg (why take him?) and Lewis into the mix with the quicks.

Welcome to 12th man world, which Mcgrath, Kasper, Bic and Lee have endured for so long.

Hodgey has done it for the last 12 months on every international tour, Fleming and Reiffel did it often.

McGrath? When did he ever endure long periods as 12th man in the last 10 years?

I reckon Jaques should be there ahead of Hodgey, move Katich down the order, its one thing to debut blokes at 30 in the test side which is well deserved, but you shouldnt bother in the one day side unless they see him as the man to take them to the World Cup in 2007 at no4. Never really rated Hodgeys one day game

Haddin wouldnt be any chance anyway, he was going to be the only thing stopping us from wiping them out for under 150, now bloody Jaques will murder us, and who do we have, Warney? Damn our batting will be weak that game

[usalion]

Hodgey has done it for the last 12 months on every international tour, Fleming and Reiffel did it often.

McGrath? When did he ever endure long periods as 12th man in the last 10 years?



McGrath was 12th man quite a bit in 1994-5...he did his time
Hodge only 12th man during the Ashes- not like he had any serious cricket to play elsewhere.

Lee carried the drinks in NZ and in the last home test series- or is your memory that short?

[eddiesmith]

McGrath was 12th man quite a bit in 1994-5...he did his time
Hodge only 12th man during the Ashes- not like he had any serious cricket to play elsewhere.

Lee carried the drinks in NZ and in the last home test series- or is your memory that short?

Hodgey was carrying the drinks in India

[Gridlock'd]

Thats a poo team.

[usalion]

Hodgey was carrying the drinks in India

Really?
He didn't get called up until after the second Test- a QLDer (Hauritz) did the duties the first Test- scorecards oddly don't list them for the second and third test- but Hodge did NOT carry them in the second Test- he wasn't in India

Source- cricinfo

[eddiesmith]

Really?
He didn't get called up until after the second Test- a QLDer (Hauritz) did the duties the first Test- scorecards oddly don't list them for the second and third test- but Hodge did NOT carry them in the second Test- he wasn't in India

Source- cricinfo
Umm, Hodge was called up following the one dayers, he played the warm up game

[usalion]

Umm, Hodge was called up following the one dayers, he played the warm up game

oops- too early in the morning...reading my months wrong

But no record of 12th man for second and third Test-
Hodge was NOT 12th man in the 1st Test

[eddiesmith]

30 Sep 2004 Mumbai v Australians Brabourne Stadium, Mumbai f47674
06 Oct 2004 1st Test India v Australia M Chinnaswamy Stadium, Bangalore f47682
14 Oct 2004 2nd Test India v Australia MA Chidambaram Stadium, Chepauk, Chennai f47701
26 Oct 2004 3rd Test India v Australia Vidarbha Cricket Association Ground, Nagpur f47744
03 Nov 2004 4th Test India v Australia ********hede Stadium, Mumbai f47763

Hodge played in that game against Mumbai

[eddiesmith]

oops- too early in the morning...reading my months wrong

But no record of 12th man for second and third Test-
Hodge was NOT 12th man in the 1st Test

He was still over there, watching the game. On tour they dont have an official 12th man, they all share the duties, you watch at drinks breaks and atleast 2 of them will run out there with the drinks. Remember Whitey and Hodgey doing it at 1 point in India

[Glenno23]

Hahahaha.

Where should I start?

McGrath is a certainty for the squad and Tait would be at about a 90% chance at this stage to be in it. Someone like Dorey could bolt as well, his height could cause all sorts of problems on West Indian wickets. Damien Wright isn't beyond the realms of possibility, would add batting depth as well as consistent bowling. Kasprowicz, Gillespie, Bichel, M.Johnson and Rofe would all be in with some chance as well.

To say the quicks will be,

Lee
Bracken
S.Clark
Lewis

is ridiculous.

McGrath
Lee
Tait
Lewis

for me. I can't imagine anyone would be stupid enough to argue with that.

And the World Cup squad will probably be 16 players, so as the fifth quick is they choose to take one I'd be going for Dorey. At this stage it should be noted.

Batting wise,

Martyn's exclusion from the test side means his performances in the one-day arena will be monitored closely. He should be too classy to lose his place but a shortish form slump could well be the end of his international career.

None of Hodge, Hussey and Katich are anywhere near close to safe in the one-day side. None are established players, and when you're not an established player losing your spot becomes a much more probable possibility.

I think Hodge and Hussey will be in the squad. Katich no, at best he may he the 2nd or 3rd back-up batsman but I suspect Jacques will be opening the innings before long.

Michael Clarke simply isn't that good, and if he plays to his ability then his place could well come under question within 1 and a half years or whatever there is to go.

Guys like D.Hussey and Jacques will both put pressure on.

What else is there?

Brad Hogg???

Cameron White???

I think White will be there because of his batting strength, because lets face it on the strength of his bowling theres probably at least ten better Australian spinners running around.

A Warne return isn't out of the realms of possibility.

And Dan Cullen, with his newly acquired contract and continued good form could get a look in. Although I doubt it.

Keepers, well that'll pretty much be Gilchrist and Haddin.

All-Rounders,

Theres Watson, White and Symonds.

James Hopes will probably find himself challenging these blokes.

To say that the squad here is pretty much it is ignorant, stupid, wrong (I could go on all day).

Hussey not safe? you're cracking right? has done heaps in the one day arena in the games he has played....

[usalion]

He was still over there, watching the game. On tour they dont have an official 12th man, they all share the duties, you watch at drinks breaks and atleast 2 of them will run out there with the drinks. Remember Whitey and Hodgey doing it at 1 point in India

Your point being? Based on that, lots of blokes have not played because they were in the touring squad. 12th men ARE named- take a look at the current Test series....

Hodge has been 12th man since the Ashes series began

[eddiesmith]

Your point being? Based on that, lots of blokes have not played because they were in the touring squad. 12th men ARE named- take a look at the current Test series....

Hodge has been 12th man since the Ashes series began

Whether you are 12th man, 13th man, 14th man it is the same result, you are stuck over there not playing any cricket and losing form

[usalion]

Whether you are 12th man, 13th man, 14th man it is the same result, you are stuck over there not playing any cricket and losing form

So do they just take 11?

[eddiesmith]

So do they just take 11?

No, I am just saying there is no difference between the player listed as 12th man the other members of the squad not playing, also Hodgey was carrying the drinks with Lee in NZ, so its been 12 months of touring and carrying the drinks for Australia

[Kegs44]

Great to see Hodgy and Lewis make it. Hope they play, and get a decent go too.

[pluga_4]

Great to see Hodgy and Lewis make it. Hope they play, and get a decent go too.


fair chance dude, only 13 touring :p

[skipper kelly]

Are you kidding?

No McGrath. No Haddin. No Jaques. No Warne. No Tait. No Watson.

and No Other. :mad:

[Bombers_Forever]

Stuart Clark... WHAT...... THE....... ********?????

Playing for NSW gives you such advantage over every other bowler, even if you are no good.

[sting]

It would be really great if Lewis would get a run , has been a better than consistant performer at state level for 2-3 years now .

[Homer Jnr]

We are gonna get rodgered.

[oaksy]

kasper should be in instead of s clark. he just adds that bit of experience and consistency to our young bowling line-up. and i also don't understand why macgill isnt picked to play 1-dayers now that warne has retired. he has a brilliant record at ing cup level, and lets face it anyones better than hogg.

[spookism]

Not the best squad going around if you ask me, looks like we are trying to make sure this series stays alive by making it close....

[thewhippersnapper]

Worst Australian squad in a while.

[usalion]

kasper should be in instead of s clark. he just adds that bit of experience and consistency to our young bowling line-up. and i also don't understand why macgill isnt picked to play 1-dayers now that warne has retired. he has a brilliant record at ing cup level, and lets face it anyones better than hogg.

Kasper not a one day bowler- much better at Test level...Bic would do nicely, and add batting power for the bottom half of the line up

[eddiesmith]

Add McGrath for Clark, Jaques for Katich and that is Australias best one day squad

[usalion]

Add McGrath for Clark, Jaques for Katich and that is Australias best one day squad

Praise for TWO NSWmen? Have you arranged to see the doctor yet, ed?

Well, they ARE replacing two state colleagues

[Theseventhhamster]

Cameron White???

I think White will be there because of his batting strength, because lets face it on the strength of his bowling theres probably at least ten better Australian spinners running around.

Moron.

[JUBJUB]

The story about the resting of McGrath and the selectors also wanting to rest Gilchrist is odd [Click here for story] (http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,17354909-23212,00.html)

Why are Cricket Australia big wigs sticking their noses in on selections ?
It would be like Eddie deciding who gets a game for Collingwood.Actually,he probably does that anyway. ;)

Surely if an old fart is going to be rested,it should've been Gilly.All McGrath has to do is bowl 10 overs a game and then a sub can replace him.Gilly has to field for 50 overs and bat from the start.

[spookism]

Add McGrath for Clark, Jaques for Katich and that is Australias best one day squad


Plus Tait for Bracken / Lewis

and Cullen for White / Hogg

[spookism]

Moron.


No, i tend to agree

Warne
MacGill
Cullen
Casson
Hauritz
Bailey
Clarke
Lehmann
Katich
Symonds


thats just of the top my head

[eddiesmith]

No, i tend to agree

Warne
MacGill
Cullen
Casson
Hauritz
Bailey
Clarke
Lehmann
Katich
Symonds


thats just of the top my head
Like he said, moron :rolleyes:

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Add McGrath for Clark, Jaques for Katich and that is Australias best one day squadHow about Warne or Cullen instead of Hogg? Hogg won't be there for the 2007 WC.

Tait instead of Lewis.

Haddin and Watson will both be in the squad for the 2007 WC.

What has Hodge done? He has to convince the selectors that he is the man to replace Martyn at #4.

What about David Hussey?

[Theseventhhamster]

No, i tend to agree

Warne
MacGill
Cullen
Casson
Hauritz
Bailey
Clarke
Lehmann
Katich
Symonds


thats just of the top my head
I'll give you Warne and MacGill obviously. Maybe cullen, the rest don't come close and don't need commenting on.

[eddiesmith]

How about Warne or Cullen instead of Hogg? Hogg won't be there for the 2007 WC.

Tait instead of Lewis.

Haddin and Watson will both be in the squad for the 2007 WC.

What has Hodge done? He has to convince the selectors that he is the man to replace Martyn at #4.

What about David Hussey?

Hodge or Hussey should be atno4 for the WC, obviously Hodge has first crack at it

Would still keep Lewis there, room for 5 bowlers for the WC squad

Fact is this is a 13 man squad, the World cup will be 16-17, room for another keeper, pace bowler, all rounder and batsman. This squad should form the foundation of the World Cup squad with Clark, Hogg and Katich making way before then

If Hodge and Lewis perform, they will keep their spots