View Full Version : Who is the worst player to have made the Australian Test side in the last 10 years?
Gunnar Longshanks
25 Nov 2005, 13:56
It's quite a list isn't it?
Greg Miller= Messiah
25 Nov 2005, 15:08
Ricky Ponting is better than all them players.
ManWithNoName
25 Nov 2005, 15:14
Gotta be Nicholson. Adam Dale was alright.
Gunnar Longshanks
25 Nov 2005, 15:51
Who voted for Shane Watson?
just maybe will cry if he sees that.
trashos mob
25 Nov 2005, 16:11
surely hauritz would be there. worst player i've ever seen play for australia
Alkaline
25 Nov 2005, 16:12
Everyone i dont know.
Freo Big Fella
25 Nov 2005, 16:15
Blocker Wilson was very lucky.
nathan hauritz, clearly... needs to be added to that list... getting spanked playing qld 2nd XI...
Stafford678
25 Nov 2005, 16:20
where is the symonds and clarke options
Alkaline
25 Nov 2005, 16:21
where is the symonds and clarke options
They are better than all those names.
just maybe
25 Nov 2005, 16:26
Who voted for Shane Watson?
just maybe will cry if he sees that.
You really are a juvenile little fool aren't you? :rolleyes:
Gunnar Longshanks
25 Nov 2005, 16:57
You really are a juvenile little fool aren't you? :rolleyes:I won't deny that I'm juvenile. But a fool I am not.
just maybe
25 Nov 2005, 17:19
I won't deny that I'm juvenile. But a fool I am not.
That's not something you get to decide.
Alkaline
25 Nov 2005, 17:20
That's not something you get to decide.
And why is that? He can decide the way he behaves.
Browney
25 Nov 2005, 17:21
Hahaha gotta love how Watson is sitting in Second place, didnt think people hated him that much on here.
Sylvia Saint
25 Nov 2005, 17:23
You people are obviously forgetting the SUPERDUD that was Brendon Julian.
Hopeless batsman, hopeless bowler... but was considered an "all-rounder". Ridiculous.
just maybe
25 Nov 2005, 17:31
And why is that? He can decide the way he behaves.
Er...no. Whether you are a fool is in the opinion of others.
Alkaline
25 Nov 2005, 17:37
Er...no. Whether you are a fool is in the opinion of others.
Well thats not what i think. We both have different opinions.
Gunnar Longshanks
25 Nov 2005, 18:14
Well thats not what i think. We both have different opinions.Alkaline owns just maybe. :D
Spiritof82
25 Nov 2005, 18:36
Where are the Clarke and Lee choices?
just maybe
25 Nov 2005, 19:06
Alkaline owns just maybe. :D
You are a fool.
just maybe
25 Nov 2005, 19:07
Well thats not what i think. We both have different opinions.
That doesn't change what I said, twinkle-toes.
Crooked Rain
25 Nov 2005, 19:40
All you people who put Muller can go and get stuffed. I urge you all to look at his overall stats.
Waugh's mate Robertson for sure.
Blue Boyz
26 Nov 2005, 00:07
I haven't seen all the players list play live but surely no one could have been more out of their depth in Test cricket than Shaun "China" Young was when he played his one and only test at the Oval on the '97 Ashes series.
I was truly embarrassed for him when he was batting as he could barely lay bat on ball enough to even hit it off the square making a duck in the 1st dig and 4 NO in the 2nd innings with his only scoring shot being an edge for 4. His bowling was also pretty ordinary.
matthedocker
26 Nov 2005, 02:57
You people are obviously forgetting the SUPERDUD that was Brendon Julian.
Hopeless batsman, hopeless bowler... but was considered an "all-rounder". Ridiculous.
horrible comment sylv! BJ wasnt considered an all rounder by anyone. He was a first class bowler for WA who managed to smack a couple of classic tonnes at the state level. When he came up to australian selection (his chances were few) he did not have what it took, and he was rightly dropped. To say he was worse than the rest of that list is an ignorant comment.
For mine it HAS to be scott finky muller as a consistently bad performance. To the person that said - have a look at his stats, at least two or three of his wickets were rank wide deleveries that were luckily taken in the covers to good catches.
Even though his talent was much better than mullers, the worst short term performance has to be Nichos. Those wides in the boxing day test were absolutly cringe worthy...
Even though his talent was much better than mullers, the worst short term performance has to be Nichos. Those wides in the boxing day test were absolutly cringe worthy...
You are truly ignorant. Muller was easily the least committed to play for Australia, but least talented is absolutely farcical. To be as non-committal to cricket as he was, and STILL play for Australia, just goes to show the undoubted talent he had.
Look at his first class stats, I think they speak for themselves.
Crooked Rain
27 Nov 2005, 23:00
horrible comment sylv! BJ wasnt considered an all rounder by anyone. He was a first class bowler for WA who managed to smack a couple of classic tonnes at the state level. When he came up to australian selection (his chances were few) he did not have what it took, and he was rightly dropped. To say he was worse than the rest of that list is an ignorant comment.
For mine it HAS to be scott finky muller as a consistently bad performance. To the person that said - have a look at his stats, at least two or three of his wickets were rank wide deleveries that were luckily taken in the covers to good catches.
Even though his talent was much better than mullers, the worst short term performance has to be Nichos. Those wides in the boxing day test were absolutly cringe worthy...
Muller averaged in the low 20's for QLD you dill. More talent than several of those players listed in this poll.
Muller has the best first class bowling average of all those bowlers/players by a long shot (with the exception of Dale). he even has far better state numbers than fat Warney for what it's worth.
Gotta be Nicholson. Adam Dale was alright.
Dale was a quality ODI bowler. Has to be Scott Muller for sure!
johnnyhoward
28 Nov 2005, 14:16
Has to be Robertson or Shaun Young. Dale was a pretty good bowler, Blocker Wilson wasn't too bad.
Hogg circa 96 didn't deserve to get selected, definitely one of the worst performers in the Test arena, but his ODI form cancels that out, like Symonds.
Greg Miller= Messiah
28 Nov 2005, 14:17
brendan julien the inspiration 4 fidel edwards balling style.
Enough said
trashos mob
28 Nov 2005, 17:31
deffinately hauritz.
he is considered a bowler?
check out his first class stats
http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/ci/content/player/5593.html
Black Thunder
28 Nov 2005, 18:18
I feel that Muller is getting so many votes due to the "can't throw and he can't bowl" quotes from "Joe the camera man".
He actually could bowl - took 100 FC wickets at under 25, and from memory didn't exactly do too badly in his 2/3 tests that he actually played.
Cooldude
28 Nov 2005, 18:20
Gotta be a tie between Shaun Young and Gavin Robertson
If Brad (Mr ODI bowling average of 251) Young played tests, then he'd be up there... For now its gotta be Shaun Young and Robbo.
nicho_magic
28 Nov 2005, 21:06
dale wasn't too bad, probably wouldn't put him in that list... how can watson be second
Crooked Rain
28 Nov 2005, 22:54
Scott Muller - 102 wickets for QLD at 23.5 apiece.
Pretty bloody good imo.
http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/australia/content/player/6665.html
It's amazing how many people fell for that woeful comment by the fat fake blonde cameraman.
Gunnar Longshanks
5 Jan 2007, 13:56
Scott Muller still way out in front.
Scott Muller still way out in front.
I think Chris Matthews has him covered.
nathan hauritz, clearly... needs to be added to that list... getting spanked playing qld 2nd XI...
Maybe, but I'm not sure what that has to do with Australia. Also took 3/16 in the last test series against India in his one and only at Mumbai, 5/100 by completion and although I never want to see him play for Australia again, is not the worst. Muller by a street.
Armageddon
5 Jan 2007, 14:18
Muller is getting the votes for the reputation from the 'Joe the Camera man' incident which is a bit harsh, Robertson wasn't shocking but nowhere near test standard, handy First Class player. Shane Watson should be on 0 votes, the guy has some talent, very harsh from some the more ignorant fools who just put him down for being having an average first few tests, he'll play some quality test cricket if he ever gets fit.
Gunnar Longshanks
5 Jan 2007, 14:22
I think Chris Matthews has him covered.
Played his last Test in 1988.
GOALden Hawk
5 Jan 2007, 14:29
Young has to be considered. Remember the only reason he got a call-up was because he was in town and we had some injuries!
Didn't Julian actually bowl OK during a Windies tour?
Ricketts
5 Jan 2007, 14:30
Brad Hodge.
Young has to be considered. Remember the only reason he got a call-up was because he was in town and we had some injuries!
The beauty of this selection was that it prevented Shane Lee from getting an undeserved test cap.
Partridge
5 Jan 2007, 14:37
You people are obviously forgetting the SUPERDUD that was Brendon Julian.
Hopeless batsman, hopeless bowler... but was considered an "all-rounder". Ridiculous.
Ah yes, the only player in history to have more tour blazers than test wickets. Never underestimate the value of a chick magnet on a sporting tour overseas.
I find it hard to go past Gavin Robertson. Worst offspinner I've ever seen, and once more the express lane from NSW to an Australian cap was vindicated.
Scott Muller - 102 wickets for QLD at 23.5 apiece.
Pretty bloody good imo.
http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/australia/content/player/6665.html
It's amazing how many people fell for that woeful comment by the fat fake blonde cameraman.
I agree. He wasn't a superstar but he's far from the worst player on that list.
94_Eagles
5 Jan 2007, 17:48
How dare you name Julian and Hogg.
why isnt Simon Katich there?
This topic reminds me of http://www.worstaussies.8m.com/
Ridiculous that Watson has any votes, definitely a talented player and just because he hasnt given instant gratification to ignorant followers in his few Tests it doesn't mean he won't in the future.
davey_magik
5 Jan 2007, 19:38
Bit stiff on Hogg I would have thought.
RoosterLad
5 Jan 2007, 19:40
Muller is only getting picked for those "cameraman jibes"
Greg Miller= Messiah
5 Jan 2007, 20:01
Ive been a cricket fan for 20 years of my life I know every player that has ever played for this country since I was born except Simon Cook so naturally he gets my vote:D
dont bowl there
5 Jan 2007, 20:03
Stupid thread as Hauritz isnt on the list.
RoosterLad
5 Jan 2007, 20:31
Ive been a cricket fan for 20 years of my life I know every player that has ever played for this country since I was born except Simon Cook so naturally he gets my vote:D
Haha that is the same reason i voted for Simon Cook.
Marklar_33
5 Jan 2007, 20:41
Ive been a cricket fan for 20 years of my life I know every player that has ever played for this country since I was born except Simon Cook so naturally he gets my vote:D
Took 5/39 in one of his Test innings, averaged 20.28 with the ball
Only played 2 Tests (didnt get a wicket in his 2nd)
ALwaysNorth
5 Jan 2007, 20:45
Muller is getting the votes for the reputation from the 'Joe the Camera man' incident which is a bit harsh, Robertson wasn't shocking but nowhere near test standard, handy First Class player. Shane Watson should be on 0 votes, the guy has some talent, very harsh from some the more ignorant fools who just put him down for being having an average first few tests, he'll play some quality test cricket if he ever gets fit.
Absolutely correct , the lemmings have voted for Muller and shown their ignorance . And Watson is there why ?? because Gunnar did the list of course.
I voted for Wilson , if it was a ODI list Lewis probably would have got my vote .
By comparison a list from the previous 10 year blocks would have been real no talent worthy bunchs .
musha_13
5 Jan 2007, 21:04
Maybe, but I'm not sure what that has to do with Australia. Also took 3/16 in the last test series against India in his one and only at Mumbai, 5/100 by completion and although I never want to see him play for Australia again, is not the worst. Muller by a street.
Did you watch that game?
The pitch was a disgrace, Michael Clarke got 6/9. Hell, the pitch was that bad that even I probably would have chimed in with a wicket.
Took 5/39 in one of his Test innings, averaged 20.28 with the ball
Only played 2 Tests (didnt get a wicket in his 2nd)
Also suffered a serious accident a year after his Test debut where a steamroller ran over him. He was forced out of cricket for four years so he never really had a chance to build on his Test career.
Another who doesn't really deserve to be on this list.
dont bowl there
5 Jan 2007, 23:00
Also suffered a serious accident a year after his Test debut where a steamroller ran over him. He was forced out of cricket for four years so he never really had a chance to build on his Test career.
Another who doesn't really deserve to be on this list.
Haha me and my mate still laugh about his steamroller incident.
Gunnar Longshanks
7 Jan 2007, 07:38
Absolutely correct , the lemmings have voted for Muller and shown their ignorance . And Watson is there why ?? because Gunnar did the list of course.Don't cry.
peternorth
7 Jan 2007, 07:58
Ah yes, the only player in history to have more tour blazers than test wickets. Never underestimate the value of a chick magnet on a sporting tour overseas.
I find it hard to go past Gavin Robertson. Worst offspinner I've ever seen, and once more the express lane from NSW to an Australian cap was vindicated.
gavin was a good mate of steve waugh.
when bracken was promoted to the aussie side(s) it was after much pressure from s waugh again. he said that bracken had a good pre season and should be considered...even though at the time of the season bracken had hardly played due to poor weather.
Gunnar Longshanks
30 Oct 2007, 19:22
Poor Scotty Muller.
Minotaur
31 Oct 2007, 11:01
To those defending Scott Muller - what happened to him?
Was he destroyed by Joe the cameraman or was there another reasons he dissappeared off the scene completely?
Also why was he so overawed by test cricket when his first class record shows him to be a pretty reasonable bowler?
Cousin Jed
31 Oct 2007, 11:06
How on earth did Adam Dale make that list.
Gun bowler
How on earth did Adam Dale make that list.
Gun bowler
Yea i agree he was a very accomplished one day bowler apart of the 99 worlc dup campaign. Didnt manage to play as well in Tests, was a very handy One day player the first few names on that list a rediculous hogg watson dale all very capable players
thefamilyguy
31 Oct 2007, 12:09
Pretty stupid so say Muller cant throw.
To the best of my knowledge he is the only australian player ever who was/is completely ambidextorous. He could throw down stumps with either hand and off either foot.
bigpapagman
31 Oct 2007, 14:13
WHERE IS MARK HIGGS!!!!
seriously.
dr nick
31 Oct 2007, 14:34
To those defending Scott Muller - what happened to him?
Was he destroyed by Joe the cameraman or was there another reasons he dissappeared off the scene completely?
Also why was he so overawed by test cricket when his first class record shows him to be a pretty reasonable bowler?
Muller wasn't overawed, he picked up a few wickets from memory in his short time. Had a 2/ and a 3/ if I remember, but his selection wasn't sustainable with his and warne's relationship.
Nicholson was lucky to make the side, but had a frightening spell playing for WA on a tour match just before the test, and was selected.
Peter McIntyre was very lucky, with no real form for SA - we were obsessed with wrist spinners for a while. Gavin Robertson should have also never played, selectors wanted another Tim May - who knows.
Scott Muller also was bowling well leading into the Pakistan series, albeit another selection based on a lone tour match essentially.
Simon Cook I can barely remember, played i think only a single test in the subcontinent before foxtel days - complete nobody.
Muller wasn't overawed, he picked up a few wickets from memory in his short time. Had a 2/ and a 3/ if I remember, but his selection wasn't sustainable with his and warne's relationship.
Nicholson was lucky to make the side, but had a frightening spell playing for WA on a tour match just before the test, and was selected.
Peter McIntyre was very lucky, with no real form for SA - we were obsessed with wrist spinners for a while. Gavin Robertson should have also never played, selectors wanted another Tim May - who knows.
Scott Muller also was bowling well leading into the Pakistan series, albeit another selection based on a lone tour match essentially.
Simon Cook I can barely remember, played i think only a single test in the subcontinent before foxtel days - complete nobody.
Played a test in Sydney and took 5 fa
owling averagesMatInnsBallsRunsWktsBBIBBMAveEconSR4w5w10Tests242241 4275/397/7520.283.8032.0010
bigpapagman
31 Oct 2007, 15:40
Played a test in Perth and took 5 fa
owling averagesMatInnsBallsRunsWktsBBIBBMAveEconSR4w5w10Tests242241 4275/397/7520.283.8032.0010
edited for accuracy.