Official: Clark, Mills, Hooper & Patfull

[xplo]

Mitchell Clark

Details:
Club: East Fremantle/Rossmoyne
DOB: 19 October 1987 Hgt: 197cm Wgt: 90kg
Position: CHF/Ruck
Natural Foot: Right

Wayde Mills

Details:
Club: Southport
DOB: 29 August 1987 Hgt: 196cm Wgt: 88kg
Position: Centre Half Back
Natural Foot: Right

Rhan Hooper

AIS AFL Academy
Small outside midfielder with pace. Likes to carry the ball and kicks long into the forward line.

DOB 1/9/1988
Club Ipswich
School Bundamba Secondary College
Year level 2004 11
Height 175.0ms
Weight 65.6 kgs
Favourite AFL club Brisbane, Fremantle
Favourite position Half forward flank
Player most likely to play like Jeff Farmer
Other sports Athletics, basketball

Joel Patfull

Height :187 cm
Weight: 84 kg
Date of Birth:7 December 1984

[waspy]

I have a bad feeling that Clark is going to dominate matches for you guys.

[jackess]

Disappointed about missing out on Lucy.
A suncoust lion, all australian full back surely we could have got him instead of hooper or palfull.

[campbell]

Hooper is a gun.
Good to see we picked up 2 local boys.
Good to see the Academy is a viable option for local kids, they now see the hard work gets them a shot at local AFL.

We need a running Fly type player, we have sorely missed that type this last season.

[Captain Charisma]

Hooper worries me, he wants to be like Jeff Farmer

[Chasing the Dream]

Does not look too bad all in all.

Wayde Mills is a good pick up, as too Clark seems to be.

A bit strange we would invest in Austin Lucy through the Suncoast Lions and then let him go when we could have got him at 56. Even Michael West might have been worth a go, dodgy knee and all.

Having said that, our first two picks were of the larger types, and maybe they did not want to go in too top heavy.

Now bring on the pre-season

[H Dolphin]

What can you tell us about Travis Baird ? Do you think Brisbane was interested ?

[Homer Jnr]

Would have gone for Lucy with 56. Added insurance in defence, and then we'd have 2 tall defenders learning the game for a few years to take up the reigns when Leppa and Mal move on.

Is it just me, or does Clark have a bit of Spaanderman about him already? Tall CHF/Ruck from WA... Lets hope this one works out.

[Vidman]

Not one of our best drafts at all. We basically drafted someone who is a CHF or a Ruck? There the two positions we dont need! Very disappointed we didnt pick up Lucy. Wow we need a CHB of the future, he's the all australian this year, and he's from Qld! And we could have got him at 56? very disappointed. As good as last years draft seemed at the time, this one looks bad.

[irel]

As good as last years draft seemed at the time, this one looks bad.
How do you know? Have you got a crystal ball?

Future options for the CHB/FB

Re: CHB of the future. Pat Garner
Re: FB of the future Mills
Current prospects for the above roles on the rookie list: Pask and Hamill.
Also have an opportunity to get some rookies as well.
Don't forget the Irish lads. Groomed for defensive roles.

Joel Patfull http://69.93.149.226/users5/vlsg/index.cgi?board=Bris&action=display&num=1131760785

[Vidman]

How do you know? Have you got a crystal ball?

Future options for the CHB/FB

Re: CHB of the future. Pat Garner
Re: FB of the future Mills
Current prospects for the above roles on the rookie list: Pask and Hamill.
Also have an opportunity to get some rookies as well.
Don't forget the Irish lads. Groomed for defensive roles.

Joel Patfull http://69.93.149.226/users5/vlsg/index.cgi?board=Bris&action=display&num=1131760785

I dont know, and neither do you. I'm just giving my immediate reaction. At this time last year, I was very confident that we had drafted very well. Wood was a bargain down at 18(?) and Sherman too sounded great. We combined getting excellent value with future needs.

To me in this draft we have possibly only one good pick that fits those categories and that is Mills as CHB (according to reviews on him). Mitchell Clark to me is a wasted pick, not because he wont be very good, but because he's primarily a CHF and we have a certain JB who will fill that role for the best part of ten years. Not down on the kid, but CHF is not one of our needs and we've spent no.9 on a position we dont need. Now if they have plans to turn him into a FF or FB then fine, but even so its a strange pick to choose someone so high, who had never played the position.

The other two draft picks are unkowns to me, cant see the listed anywhere on the draft sites so it seems those are a bit of a reach. Again who knows how they will turn out, but they dont seem like great picks today. Not when people like Lucy were available.

I know people will say that theres no way you can tell so soon, but to me the only honest reaction is the immediate one - otherwise a year or two later you say "ah always knew that was a good pick".

[tapestry]

Just my opinion Vidman, but I do disagree with 9 being a wasted pick.

CHF imo is possibly the most valuabe and hard to fill position on the field. Having a backup for Brown (should this kid reach his potential) is preparing for the future. Imagine if we'd had a CHF, even a raw one at that, when Brown went down this year? The last 3 games might have not been so bad.

[Vidman]

Just my opinion Vidman, but I do disagree with 9 being a wasted pick.

CHF imo is possibly the most valuabe and hard to fill position on the field. Having a backup for Brown (should this kid reach his potential) is preparing for the future. Imagine if we'd had a CHF, even a raw one at that, when Brown went down this year? The last 3 games might have not been so bad.

True tapestry true, but to me its just to high to be drafting a backup, unless they turn him into something else. Anyone who knows him think he could turn into a FF? Obviously he'd have to be a big Lynch like one, or is he a future Mal Michael/big defender?

Maybe I overreacted when i said it was 'wasted' , maybe I should rephrase it to say 'not a priority' - Nothing against the lad, and I will follow his progress keenly, but we had many other needs than a CHF. Unless we're going to play Brown more in the middle again! (shudder) or maybe we play Brown more at FF?

[Bobby Beecroft]

I for 1 am really getting sick of some ppls obsession with Lucy.
Of all clubs surely we have by far the best sighter on him.
Im prepared to back our recruiters over any others (who also seemed sheepish in selecting him).
Perhaps it's the fact that some here continued to pick him with our 1st round pick in phantom drafts, that they are trying to save face.
Good luck to the kid, but please can some here get over themselves we obviously preferred Mills & went that way.

I was rapt to get Clark.
If he develops as hoped a forward line containing himself & Jonathan Brown in full flight would be scary.
The other thought is that due to injury Browny did spend a lot more time closer to the goal square. Clark in years to come may provide the luxury of this versatility up forward in the future.

I still can't believe the audacity of ppl being critical without these guys having played. Impossible to please some!!!!!!!!! :mad:

[The Flying Belgian]

Hooper worries me, he wants to be like Jeff Farmer

No, he plays a bit like Jeff Farmer. The AFL/AIS profile is not a questionnaire. Seems like we've been through this before at some stage.

As for Clark, I'm happy if they felt he was the best available. Besides, anyone who thinks Browny is going to be able to play at CHF for his whole career is dreaming - his body will be giving him the warning signs in the next few years. Clark may be able to hold down FF anyway.

Hooper I'm surprised at as I thought he may got through to the rookie list. But we obviously feel we need a lightning crumbing forward a la Lovett, Davey.

Thought 25 was a bit over the odds for Mills, but again if that's who we wanted then better to pick than gamble.

Would have preferred to take West or Lucy with the last pick, but I don't know Patfull's story, so I'll have to trust the football department's judgement on that. I'd say he'd only be on a one-year contract (guessing) so if he doesn't work out it's no great biggie and we clear the spot for next year touted "super-draft" (I don't really know if the draft next year will be super, that's the indications at the moment). If we took a young fella we'd have to hold on to him for two years minimum.

My verdict: B-. Of course we won't know until further down the track, but I've got a general "meh" feeling to these selections.

[tapestry]

Here's the Lions take on things from the Media Release today:

LIONS GO BIG AND LOCAL IN NATIONAL DRAFT


The AAPT Brisbane Lions have gone big and local in the 2005 National Draft, choosing two key position prospects, including Mitchell Clark at No. 9, and a pair of Queensland junior representatives.

The Lions used all four available picks, snaring East Fremantle's Clark with the first of them, followed by Queensland under 18 captain Wayde Mills (No. 25), exciting Ipswich product Rhan Hooper (No. 41) and Norwood's Joel Patfull (No. 56).

The news of his selection by the Lions was greeted with excitement by Clark, who had a meningococcal disease scare earlier in the week.

"It was just a bit of a scare during the week but it is great to get this opportunity and it will be great to get back into things," Clark said.

"I'm up and about and back at home and walking now and feeling pretty good."

The Lions received medical assurance that Clark's health scare would have no lasting ramifications and recruiting manager Kinnear Beatson was glowing in his praise of the youngster's potential. Clark has the frame of a prototype key forward, standing 198cm and weighing in at 91kg

"He played all three levels at East Fremantle last year - seniors, reserves and colts - and, even though he probably had a bit of an up and down year, he has a lot of potential and we see him as a dominant key forward of the future," Beatson said.

Mills also has plenty of size about him at 195cm and 88kg. The Queensland skipper, who actually comes from Lennox Heads in northern New South Wales, won All-Australian selection at the 2005 national under championships and also impressed with his speed, agility and endurance at September's Draft Camp in Canberra. The 18-year-old picked up an AFLQ premiership medallion playing for Southport last season.

"Wayde is a kid with a big body who plays in defence and he's shown the ability to play on men (at AFLQ level)," Beatson said.

"He's strong, he's quick, he's got good endurance and he's a local product. He's got the type of body that will allow him to play straight away."







The second Queenslander selected by the Lions was Hooper, another member of the 2005 Queensland under 18 side. The 177cm pacy small forward/midfielder is only slight and does not turn 18 until January but he was another to catch the eye at the Draft Camp.

"Rhan played a little bit with Mt Gravatt this year and he's an AIS graduate who toured Ireland. He's a bit of a character and a good kid," Beatson said.

"If you were going to compare him to anyone, you'd say he was in the Craig McRae ilk - he chases hard and is a good tackler."

Patfull, who was formerly rookie-listed at Port Adelaide, won't need a tour of the players' area at the Gabba - he has spent the last three weeks training with the Lions aiming for consideration in the draft.

The 20-year-old's hard work paid off this morning when he was taken at No. 56 and Beatson says his versatility will be an asset.

"Joel turns 21 in December and has been recommended by Graeme Wright, our forward scout who is now involved in our recruiting network," he said.

"He'll help us out with our need for a third tall defender and he's another one whose body is ready to play."

A record total of six Queenslanders were selected in the draft, one more than in 2004. Morningside's Courtenay Dempsey was the first of them, joining Essendon as the No. 19 pick. The others were Mills, Sam Gilbert (No. 33, St Kilda), Hooper, Michael West (No. 57, Western Bulldogs) and Austin Lucy (No. 66, Essendon).

Travis Baird, who came of the Lions' rookie list to play two senior games last season, was drafted by the Western Bulldogs at No. 46.

[Rawhead]

I can honestly say I am completely ignorant of who these players are, and have absolutely no idea of their value.

However Beatson has been doing this for a while now, and is highly regarded, so I have some faith that there have been some good decisions made.

[campbell]

I certainly trust Kin Beatson.He has got us to where we are today.
The best recruiter in the business by a country mile.

[wizard_9]

If you aren't happy with Mitch Clark we will have him back in a heart beat.

[irel]

My verdict: B-. Of course we won't know until further down the track, but I've got a general "meh" feeling to these selections.
TFB, my first reaction was also MEEEHHHH, could have done better. However upon closer examination I am warming to our selections.
No one can say at this stage how our picks may turn out. All could turn out to be duds. Much the same as our picks in the super Judd/Ball/Hodge draft.
They could also turn out to be champions.

Mitchell Clark was the obvious choice. Only four months ago he was the "number one" rated youngster in the country. He slipped down the order as a result of a poor national championship for WA. However he has been the top pick since he was a 15 year old. To pick someone else because of a perceived "We don't need another tall" is folly. The philosophy with the first pick is always "The Best Available" irrespective of need or lack thereof. All good judges say that CHF is the hardest position to play, therefore to find good players for the position is the most difficult task in Footy. When you have the opportunity to pick one you don't let it slip through your fingers and regret it for ever after. I'd rather gamble on a CHF than die wondering.

Mills is an AA and was a captain of the QLD team at the Nationals. His story is one of determination, perserverence, dedication and sacrifice. Beatson's assesment indicates that he may be ready to play seniors as early as next season. He certainly fills that area of need for us. Finding replacements for Leppa and Mal. We were always going to pick up a potential KPP with our pick 25. Obviously Kenear felt that Mills was a better option than Lucy. Remebering that Bower, the other option had already gone. Once Mills was picked Lucy was never a chance for our list. Selecting him would have meant we would be Top Heavy in talls and very unbalanced as a team.

Initially my reaction to picking Hooper with our third round pick was a feeling of disappointment. I felt we could have done better. However upon reflection I think Hooper is quite a good choice. This is the "Murphy" pick and I think picking someone from left field with a bit of character and flair adds to the versatility of the team. I'd love him to succeed, if only because we should have had MM with this pick.

As far as Joel Platful, read The Flying Belgian's analysis. It's spot on. I concur. The likely scenario is; He has been given one year to prove himself. If he does prove himself than Kenear is a genius. If not, no big deal. We will have to make room for next year's "Mother of All Drafts" anyhow.

Now that the draft is over we have the NAB Mug in February to keep us interested.

[Rawhead]

This is what the afl.co.au fastasy draft had to say before the draft about our first two picks, including who they thought would pick them.

Pick 9


7 - ESSENDON - Mitchell Clark
(East Fremantle), 19 October 1987, 198.1cm, 91.3kg

Essendon is always an intriguing player at any draft and this will meeting will be no exception. As Carlton, Collingwood and Hawthorn have already had two selections, the Bombers will be eager to see if any of the top six slides through. There is no doubt if Ryder is available, the Dons will gladly drape him in red and black, but he must first get past Carlton and Hawthorn first, which at this stage seems unlikely. Geelong's Daniel Stanley - a strong link, Oakleigh's Beau Dowler, Murray's Marcus Drum, Jones, Higgins, Muston and Pendlebury have all been tossed around for the Bombers, but Clark is also right up there. Earlier in the year, Clark was touted by some recruiting experts as a potential No.1 draftee, yet he is widely regarded as a top-10 or first-round draftee. Richmond, Brisbane Lions, Fremantle, Western Bulldogs and West Coast will also be monitoring his whereabouts. And despite incredibly being struck down with the potentially life-threatening meningococcal disease just this week, he is expected to make a full recovery and it is believed this should not hinder his rating. A tall, agile, strong-marking forward/ruckman, Clark was a joint-winner of the Sheehan Medal in the 2002 NAB AFL under 16s championships. He was also a promising volleyballer.

Pick 25

33 - ST KILDA - Wayde Mills
(Southport), 29 August 1987, 195.1cm, 87.9kg

St Kilda enters this year's meeting at No.33 and will be hoping for a genuine slider to fall through from the late teens or early 20s. Mills will come into St Kilda's calculations, but it is believed has also attracted interest from the Brisbane Lions, Port Adelaide and Adelaide. An imposing, key defender Mills possesses genuine presence and led Queensland in this year's under 18 championships. He was also rewarded with All-Australian status. He had a terrific Draft Camp, finishing first in the running vertical jump (90cm), while he displayed speed and endurance. His 10.12 minutes in the three-kilometre time-trial was exceptional for his size.

[beatnik]

well it seems like we went in there looking for some bigs - a key forward and a key defender were obviously the top priorities

maybe they thought lucy was superfluous after picking those two...who knows?

sounded like a promising key defender though...maybe we'll pick up he and and Dempsey in a few years on the 'go home' factor...would be nice to get some going our way one day

hooper sounds like an exciting sort of player but i don't know anything about joel patfull

have a question though, if he was a rookie from Port Adelaide, couldn't we have picked him up in pre-season draft and still grabbed lucy?

[TopsyWaldron]

From someone who's seen Patfull play for the last few years I can only say you may have got yourself a bargain there. He's more natural talent than most of the over rated hacks that run around in your hyper inflato mega league or whatever it's called these days. He's held down CHB for Norwood for the last two years but can go forward with devastating results. Incidentally if he ever gets a decent run he will take a few screamers, he's that kind of player.

All we ask is that you treat him well and send him back when you're done. Do it for Pikey.

[Denno]

I certainly trust Kin Beatson.He has got us to where we are today.
The best recruiter in the business by a country mile.

Do I open up this can of worms again?

Did he get us to where we are today? Maybe.

Did he have much of a part to play towards the Premierships? Debatable.

[Punchy Bassett]

From someone who's seen Patfull play for the last few years I can only say you may have got yourself a bargain there. He's more natural talent than most of the over rated hacks that run around in your hyper inflato mega league or whatever it's called these days. He's held down CHB for Norwood for the last two years but can go forward with devastating results. Incidentally if he ever gets a decent run he will take a few screamers, he's that kind of player.

All we ask is that you treat him well and send him back when you're done. Do it for Pikey.

Absolutely correct. Joel Patful, give him some time and you could find youself with an absolute STEAL. The kid has genuine talent and skills, might need a bit of patience with him but he could end up a pretty decent player for you

[TheBrownDog]

I am EXTREMELY happy with our first three picks.

Clark was touted as a potential top 3 pick earlier in the year.

Mills is a local product, captained the state side, had the highest recorded running leap at the draft camp, sounds like a big spoiler in the Leppitch mould. Very determined player who wants to be a Lion.

Hooper seems like a really exciting kid with a strong work rate. Really looking forward to seeing what he can do.

As for Patfull, he slid under my radar and I know nothing of him, look forward to finding out more.

[campbell]

Do I open up this can of worms again?

Did he get us to where we are today? Maybe.

Did he have much of a part to play towards the Premierships? Debatable.


Don't open that can Denno.

Where are Collingwood with their recruitment?????

We have the best recruiter, have done for over 12 years.Give the guy some credit here.How else do you think, we are where we are.....We could have recruited like Collingwood, and been ********.

[roostersgal4eva]

Don't open that can Denno.

Where are Collingwood with their recruitment?????

We have the best recruiter, have done for over 12 years.Give the guy some credit here.How else do you think, we are where we are.....We could have recruited like Collingwood, and been ********.

AGREE 100%

HE was played a vital part in our sucsess - we could of had cr@pr recruiting and finished worse off than we have.

anywho back to the topic....

Ive seen Patfull couple of times against North Adelaide and he was impressive - im no means a football expert but we had done well with getting him

[Macca19]

Patfull could go either way. He could turn into a quite good AFL player or he could end up not playing a game.

He is a very good talent. Ive made the connection a few times but his style is similar to Clint Bizzell. Can play as a high leaping goalkicking Full FOrward/3rd tall forward or play as a sweeping third tall defender. Similar height but not as built as Bizzell.

In about 2001 he kicked over 100 goals for Norwood Under 17s. Port picked him up as a rookie for 2003. He had a pretty good season playing Full Forward for Norwood in the seniors. Cant recall his exact stats off the top of my head but he kicked about 24-28 goals in about 13 games. Kicked 5 one week against the Port Magpies and took 2 or 3 of the best marks of the season.

He didnt progress as expected in 2004 as a forward and after being dropped a couple of times he was moved into defence where he shone in the second half of the year. Was named in Norwoods best players in 5 of his last 8 games. He wasnt retained as a rookie for 2005. His stats for the year:
17 Games, 168 Disposals, 50 Marks, 8 Goals, 6 Best Players

He trained with the Crows but wasnt picked up for 2005. His 2005 was inconsistent, which has always been a problem with Patfull. He hit his straps mid season before having another lull but his finish to the season was very strong. Again he played a mix of forward and defence and his stats for the year were:
20 Games, 136 Kicks, 93 Handballs, 76 Marks and 21 Goals.

He is a lot of potential but he has to work hard on his consistency between weeks. Often he has had a blinder week or two only to struggle for a couple of weeks after that. If he can become a consistent week to week footballer then he could well play quite a few AFL games.

Probably isnt tall enough for key forward at AFL level, but as a 3rd tall up forward or in defence then he should go alright. Its really up to him how much he works and how far he goes.

[Macca19]

His 2005 week to week stats:
Round kicks mark hb goals
1 4 1 2
2 7 4 1
3 4 1 4
4 5 1 4
5 bye
6 6 5 8 1
7 6 3 1 1
8 7 6 7
9 12 4 9 1
10 7 6 9 4
11 3 2 4 1
12 8 4 5 1
13 bye
14 6 4 3
15 9 3 5
16 2 2 6
17 9 5 10 1
18 9 4 5
19 bye
20 4 4 4
21 11 8 3 4
22 10 8 4 3
23 7 1 1 2

[The Flying Belgian]

Don't open that can Denno.

Where are Collingwood with their recruitment?????

We have the best recruiter, have done for over 12 years.Give the guy some credit here.How else do you think, we are where we are.....We could have recruited like Collingwood, and been ********.

If Denno's busting then he could just supply a link to that other thread. Compared to any other recruiters he's nowhere near the worst going around and up towards the top.

I'm not bagging Collingwood because of our past history, but I worry about them drafting Dale Thomas because he "looks like he belongs in black and white" (paraphrasing). Time will tell I suppose.

Interesting to read some views on Patfull, although a few were from Norwood people so I'll treat them with a little caution (on offence intended guys - thanks for your input :) )

And irel, the "meh" feeling is wearing off! :D Ithink it was the Hooper and Patfull slelections that intially led me to the frame of mind, but I'm coming around slowly and the eyebrows have started to descend! :D

[xplo]

Time will tell, but I'm pretty mystified that we ducked Andrew Swallow at 41. Nothing against Hooper, but I would have been surprised if anyone else had of taken him or Joel Patfull, meaning we likely had every opportunity to get both in either the PSD or the rookie draft.

Swallow captained WA and was very often tipped as Essendon's first pick at 6 . Few people tipped him to land outside the top 20. He HAD to be worth pick 41. It's a question of tactical nous.

Thumbs up for the info on Patfull too, Macca. Appreciated.

[The Flying Belgian]

Hooper = too young for the rookie draft. We just obviously liked the kid and he interviewed well. He got invited to the draft camp so a few clubs must have liked the look of him.

Swallow slipped last year from being a third round pick to missing out altogether. This year he slipped for first to third round. The fact that there were a lot of other clubs NOT picking him says there's something to be concerned about. A good national carnival seemed to make his star shine brighter than perhaps it should. Yeah, we might say we need an inside mid but with Hadley back, Black looking for a better year and perhaps Adcock, Sherman and maybe even Riska able to take the step-up into the midfield it may not be so much of a overwhelming need.

Patfull is interesting. I think we could have taken him in the rookie draft, but we must see something in him and thought "what the hell". We laud KB's speculative picks late in the draft. Lets call this another.

[mattyc2422]

Rhan Hooper was one of my favourite players in the carnival. Creative, vocal, quick.

[beatnik]

From someone who's seen Patfull play for the last few years I can only say you may have got yourself a bargain there. He's more natural talent than most of the over rated hacks that run around in your hyper inflato mega league or whatever it's called these days. He's held down CHB for Norwood for the last two years but can go forward with devastating results. Incidentally if he ever gets a decent run he will take a few screamers, he's that kind of player.

All we ask is that you treat him well and send him back when you're done. Do it for Pikey.

thanks for your observations Topsy but I have some severe doubts about how the young fella is received up here

you see, typically Brisbane Lions fans are very loyal and take a real interest in the development of their young players

they always put the performance of young players in the proper context and refrain from personal and subjective abuse of said young players

this is, it seems, unless your name is Joel - you see, we tend to tear Joel's apart for no good reason up this way

some of our most senior posters who are very reasoned normally tend to work into a froth and can no longer provide objective opinions on player potential or value for money

no patience whatsoever is allowed for players with the first name of Joel - it would be much, much worse if your lads last name resembled a chain of burger joints in any way - they get eaten alive up this way (bad pun)

(in case you hadn't noticed, topsy, this was an in-joke and firmly tongue-in-cheek - we will all support the young fella and bash trolls who bag him on our board ;) )

[jo_lions]

Pretty happy too...

Clark seems a bit of a steal at 9 and looks the goods... if we could develop him as a FF this gives us the option of sending Bradshaw down to defence, ideally as a third tall but also as a back-up for Leppa and Mal. Then again I thought Strawb was being groomed for the FF role, but it's always good to have extra tall options particularly given that we've just lost DJ and Pikey.

Just reading the paper Clark seemed pretty stoked to be heading to Brissie, seems to have a good head on his shoulders, hopefully our other East Freo alumni take him under their wings and he turns out better than our last 1st round key forward :rolleyes:

Didn't know a lot about Hooper pre-draft, but from what I've been reading... let's just say I can't wait to see the kid play ;)

[xplo]

In terms of physical attributes, Merrett isn't too different to Big Mal.

He certainly lacks the footy nous to deal with cagey FF's at this stage, but when he gets some experience I reckon he's got the size to wrestle in the square, the athleticism to leap and punch, the speed to cover leads and the discipline to do what he's told. Reasonable starting point for a full back.

[MSB ROYS]

Maybe the plan is to play Brown at full forward later in his career?

[Helix]

I certainly trust Kin Beatson.He has got us to where we are today.
The best recruiter in the business by a country mile.
Its your fault! You jinxed it!

[TheBrownDog]

Maybe the plan is to play Brown at full forward later in his career?

I think you are right on the money there.

[NICK THE PIE MAN]

I think you will like Millsy.

I watched a few Sharks games this year and loves the way he goes about it.

I did an article on him for the GC Bulletin back in July and found him to be a very nice level-headed and well spoken kid.

He definitely wanted to be a Lion.

If he can get his kicking right he will be a good long-term prospect.

Enjoy.

[Vidman]

I think you will like Millsy.

I watched a few Sharks games this year and loves the way he goes about it.

I did an article on him for the GC Bulletin back in July and found him to be a very nice level-headed and well spoken kid.

He definitely wanted to be a Lion.

If he can get his kicking right he will be a good long-term prospect.

Enjoy.

any chance of a linky? or is it not online?

[The Flying Belgian]

I did an article on him for the GC Bulletin back in July and found him to be a very nice level-headed and well spoken kid.

Personally I think you've got rocks in your head if you want to leave Lennox Heads! :D But if that shows how much he wants to play footy, then surely that's a good thing!

It's always good to hear a player wants to play for your club.

[The Flying Belgian]

In light of Beatson's departure, I found Colin Wisbey's profile of Clark. You may need a bookmark.

Click here (http://www.voy.com/51976/44630.html)

Flip a coin on how he'll turn out.

[OldLion]

In light of Beatson's departure, I found Colin Wisbey's profile of Clark. You may need a bookmark.

Click here (http://www.voy.com/51976/44630.html)

Flip a coin on how he'll turn out.What a rave. Does this guy have a life ? It's all a little creepy ... esp. when I see the name Cupido. JB better do his thing.

[Rawhead]

198/91 mid-age right foot (has other foot if necessary) ruck, or forward.



Phew, thank god for that.

[The Flying Belgian]

What a rave. Does this guy have a life ? It's all a little creepy ... esp. when I see the name Cupido. JB better do his thing.

All of his profiles that I've seen are as analytical, although this is one of the longer ones I've seen.

[POBT]

It seems to me that Brisbane has picked 3 out of 4 guys who have the physical capability to play at senior level next year as talls - possibly not in the key positions as yet but at least as a third tall forward or back. This might be a reaction to a season where the first choice centre half forward and centre half back missed substantial chunks of the season through injury. Taking close to ready replacements in the draft might alleviate this issue.

I wonder if this is the "difference in philosophies" that caused the Beatson departure?

IMO though, they are great picks - the Patfull selection is representative of the current trend of "better the devil you know" in relation to low draft picks. Good thinking IMO.

[Denno]

Don't open that can Denno.

Where are Collingwood with their recruitment?????

We have the best recruiter, have done for over 12 years.Give the guy some credit here.How else do you think, we are where we are.....We could have recruited like Collingwood, and been ********.

And what the **** has Collingwood got to do with it?

12 years? He wasn't even in charge that long. As I said, Clayton can take more credit for the Premiership years, IMO.

Over to the other thread........

[Grimreepah]

A few weeks ago I thought that Patfull might be the only one not to get a game with the Lions. Now he's the only one who is in the side. Funny how things change.

[Vipertooth]

Bring Back Hooper!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!;)

[Helix]

Bring Back Hooper!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!;)
Why?? Replace who?

[Vipertooth]

Cory now :p