Essendon Picks - Your Views

[eastaugh36]

Pat Ryder
Courtney Dempsey
Jay Neagle
Sam Lonergan
Austin Lucy

I'm very happy to get Ryder. Also Lucy was a steal as a potential replacement for Fletcher. I know we missed out on priority picks but with the way we have drafted I feel we have done very well considering we didn't get charity.

[cosby]

bombers did pretty well, but gotta wonder why lucy dropped so far.

[DynamoUltra]

Envious of Ryder, and am not sure as to why Lucy slipped to 66. I would say a good day at the draft.

[VANDA]

Very happy.

Of course it is only 1 hour after the draft but it appears as though we have drafted well to cover areas of future need.

:thumbsu:

[Embers]

Ryder to me is a quicker version of Bradley, if ya like BRadley your gonna love Ryder. Did very well there.

[vinnie_vegas69]

Apparently Lucy's kicking is not great, so maybe that scared clubs off.

Ryder's a good get at #7, obviously with the move of Pendlebury into that top 6 someone was going to drop down.

Not sure about Dempsey at #19, but he's definitely worth the pick.

Lonergan is a workmanlike player - could make it as an average type plodder that is useful if he's got the class around him to keep him purely as a clearance player, or he could find himself too unskilled and slow.

Neagle is the one I'm most critical of though, I just don't think he'll ever be worth the pick he was taken with. Too immobile and unversatile to me.

[dipper86]

Very good effort by the bombers, picked ups some beautys.

[gandaal]

Interesting that they picked up another wannabe ruckman (although he might end up as something else) given that you already have Hille and Laycock. Still Ryder appears to be definately the right choice.

[79Vintage]

To be succinct

YES
YES
NO
YES
MAYBE

3.5/5

[LukeHodge15]

ryder-------i'm jealous
dempsey----not convinced
neagle------has upside, never been close to being fit in his life. not a fan though
lonegan----vanilla mid
lucy--------steal

[purebomber]

Disappionted that the club passed up M.Clark for Ryder,but time will tell.
Also Dempsey is a type of outside/flanker that the club already has enough of.

[Weaver]

Sam Lonergan could be in the team next year. He certainly will play for the Bombers whether or not he is good with Jason Johnson having so little help in the centre square.

Neagle is a dud pick. Even if he gets fit, grows and learns to mark over his head, he will still be stuck behind Lloyd for 5 years.

Dempsey is a strange pick. The likes of Dyson, Winderlich, Stanton etc hardly makes an outside wingman a priority. Dempsey looks good at Div 2 tempo but gets found out when the game gets quicker and more intense. Can't see him getting up to AFL level.

Lucy's kicking mightn't be great but he will be an ideal long term Scott Lucas type CHB. Let Bradley do the atheltic jobs and let Lucy do the gorilla jobs. Nice one-two punch. Lucy is tough too which the Bombers need.

Ryder is a strange choice for mine. Very similar to Laycock. Good player but it is difficult to see quite how Laycock, Ryder, Lovett-Murray and Bradley work together. They are all probably more ruck-rover than genuine KP players or ruckmen. Certainly will be a very different set-up at Bomberland.

[powerpies]

ryder, dempsey, and lonergan the bombers have done very well.

[douggie the don]

It's good that Dodoro rated Ryder as their #1 in the draft. good to have him
Dempsey is following sheeds indigenous craze and hopefully will add pace.
Lonergan is apparently a good hard nut inside midfielder.
Lucy like someone said before potential fletcher replacement.
All in all i'm happy with the young blood coming in:thumbsu:

[The invisible mullet]

Rumour has it that the Bombers are already looking to draft a mature-aged ruckman and a small in-and-under type in next year's draft - Courtney Walsh and Courtney Cox.

[ant555]

Very happy with Ryder ,mobile talls with skills are always a good thing.

Dempsy has pace but im still 50/50 with this pick not entirely sure he was the best value at 19.

Neagle is another 50/50 decision , has plenty of upside but he would need to as he has to find a lot more.

I think Lonergan looks to be good value for where he was picked up.

Lucy dropped a long way down but i dont mind that we picked up a player who is a fullback with this pick. In fact i am very happy we got him. May not be a genuine star but he gives us the tall back we where looking for.

Oveall with the exception of Neagle we adressed the areas we needed with a couple of midfielders but more importantly a tall defender plus another tall with good skills who may be used in a few positions. Who knows with Neagle he may be earmarked as a player who could be used as a defender even though he has only played forward so far.

[Napier_Street]

There is a lot of bad press on Jay Neagle on these boards - why?

How many other players in the TAC comp had almost 100 shots on goal this year??

[Funkalicous]

They did very well with Ryder. They're yet another club that can thank Collingwood for their part in the draft. :D

As for Lucy. I really wanted him to go to Carlton or Brisbane, but atleast he got drafted. Good luck to him! :thumbsu:

[blumfieldisback]

There is a lot of bad press on Jay Neagle on these boards - why?

How many other players in the TAC comp had almost 100 shots on goal this year??

spot on their napier, most of these people probably didnt see him play. I havnt so i wont make judgement. He has the pedigree and he knows how to kick goals. jason johnson was seen as a risk, Mcalister went no.4 and so did bolton. No one knows how a player will turn out so take the risk on this kid.

[Weaver]

There is a lot of bad press on Jay Neagle on these boards - why?

How many other players in the TAC comp had almost 100 shots on goal this year??

Probably all the FFs who got to play in front of a midfield that boasted 3 top-5 selections and absolutely walked the league winning by 10 goals every week. If anything he should have kicked a hell of a lot more goals.

[waspy]

Probably all the FFs who got to play in front of a midfield that boasted 3 top-5 selections and absolutely walked the league winning by 10 goals every week. If anything he should have kicked a hell of a lot more goals.
None of those three guys played in the midfield for Gippsland all year and you know it Weaver ;)
No matter how good the midfield is, it still takes a good player to kick all those goals. He's also bottom age and will most likely grow a few cm's.

[blumfieldisback]

Im sure brendan Fevola was reported to have weaknesses, carlton took a gamble and 6 years on he is one of the premier full forwards.

[waspy]

Im sure brendan Fevola was reported to have weaknesses, carlton took a gamble and 6 years on he is one of the premier full forwards.
You could also say that Adelaide gambled on Angwin being a premier forward, despite having weaknesses and look how that turned out!

[jules101]

I am extremely happy with all the picks except maybe 39, I would have rathered Swallow (who was still available) then Neagle but time will tell.

[melbournemartin]

dons would have been better off with a hard, running midfielder like Nathan Jones but.....we have him :)

[mcphee_is_a_gun]

dons would have been better off with a hard, running midfielder like Nathan Jones but.....we have him :)
You think we should of taken Jones ahead of Ryder?

[YAKUZA]

[QUOTE=blumfieldisback]Im sure brendan Fevola was reported to have weaknesses, /QUOTE]

Not to mention the mental ones which are still occasionally evident.

[melbournemartin]

You think we should of taken Jones ahead of Ryder?
Ryder may have been the better talent but a player of Jones's type was needed more then Ryder

[eastaugh36]

dons would have been better off with a hard, running midfielder like Nathan Jones but.....we have him :)

Why? Talented bigger guys are rarer and next season's draft is more talented so we'll get a better midfielder then.

[mcphee_is_a_gun]

Ryder may have been the better talent but a player of Jones's type was needed more then Ryder
maybe for Melbourne but not Essendon our number 1 need was KPP.

[YAKUZA]

It's good that Dodoro rated Ryder as their #1 in the draft. good to have him
Dempsey is following sheeds indigenous craze and hopefully will add pace.
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Come on how would you know that DoDo rated Ryder as their #1? he only does what Sheedy tells him to do. Gotta keep that indigenous level topped up, onya Kev they'll make you an honorary elder soon!

[mcphee_is_a_gun]

Come on how would you know that DoDo rated Ryder as their #1? he only does what Sheedy tells him to do. Gotta keep that indigenous level topped up, onya Kev they'll make you an honorary elder soon!
was quoted on the Essendon website saying that.

[YAKUZA]

was quoted on the Essendon website saying that.

Kev no doubt told him to say it!

[blumfieldisback]

so much negativity, why?

basic facts are ryder will be a gun and was a steal at pick 7 doesnt matter what colour skin he is.

As for missing out on Nathan Jones well you cant draft everybody and we got a similar player in lonergan who is quicker.

[blumfieldisback]

Ryder may have been the better talent but a player of Jones's type was needed more then Ryder


Look you melbourne martian how can u be quoting on what essendon needs, maybe your jealous that you have been unable to unearth your own Kpp match winning talent in the last 10 years or so.

you picked up jones yet you have brock Mclean who I might add is going to be a mighty player but thats 2 similar players.

Weve picked up monfries last year and have also acquired cole, dempsey, Lonergan and will probably get campo and heffernan in the PSD. Add to this stanton and dyson with rioli, soloman and the johnson boys I think we are getting a pretty good midfield group.

With Ryder, Bradley, Fletcher, McPhee, Hird, Lloyd, Lucas, Hille and Laycock we'll be able to control the air to.

The only player im sorry we missed out on was stanley for dempsey but who am i to judge, collingwood took stanley so maybe he is a flake.

[Lockyer24]

Sheeds would be happy, aboriginal ratio back on track

[dave_27]

dons would have been better off with a hard, running midfielder like Nathan Jones but.....we have him :)

no, we wouldnt of actually.

[dave_27]

Come on how would you know that DoDo rated Ryder as their #1? he only does what Sheedy tells him to do. Gotta keep that indigenous level topped up, onya Kev they'll make you an honorary elder soon!

Who gives a **** who it is, we must go for the best available player.

I suppose Sheedy is picking up Camporeale on the basis of restocking our Italian stocks after losing Mercuri, Misiti, Alessio and Caracella.

[monfries_young-gun]

Im extremely happy with our picks. I was hoping to pick Lucy up beore the draft with pick 19, so to snare him with 66 is great.

[saladin]

dons would have been better off with a hard, running midfielder like Nathan Jones but.....we have him :)


jones had an advantage in underage footy- his body was more developed than most other boys around him. it will probably also allow him to have more of an impact next year than dempsey, swallow etc. but long term he may not have enough outright talent when measured against some of the others. brendon goddard is finding the same thing - dominating junior comps is not a guarantee that you will do it in the " big league".

[saladin]

here is an (outrageously) optimistic look at our spine in 5 years

FB: Lucy
CHB Lee
C Lonergan/ monfries
CHF Ryder
FF Johns/ Neagle


stanton/dyson -on the wings
lovett/dempsey - hff-fp-roving
mcphee -anywhere
Laycock- ruck
henneman (captain) - on the bench:eek:



:D

[windsock]

here is an (outrageously) optimistic look at our spine in 5 years

FB: Lucy
CHB Lee
C Lonergan/ monfries
CHF Ryder
FF Johns/ Neagle


stanton/dyson -on the wings
lovett/dempsey - hff-fp-roving
mcphee -anywhere
Laycock- ruck
henneman (captain) - on the bench:eek:



:D

You will be that good that you can afford to leave out Bradley? Wow!

Otherwise, of the players I've seen, that spine doesn't impress me much.

[saladin]

i said it was optimistic.............

i'm not sure where bradley will play long term. of all those spine players, only monfries has shown anything yet. but it shows why essendon keep using picks on KPP's - they are hard to find when you don't get early picks. sheedy has always built his teams around the structural players - and then fashions a midfield from whatever he can.

[blumfieldisback]

here is an (outrageously) optimistic look at our spine in 5 years

FB: Lucy
CHB Lee
C Lonergan/ monfries
CHF Ryder
FF Johns/ Neagle

stanton/dyson -on the wings
lovett/dempsey - hff-fp-roving
mcphee -anywhere
Laycock- ruck
henneman (captain) - on the bench:eek:
:D


you might want to replace Lee with Bradley there and Johns and Neagle with Lloyd he still has about 6 years left in him, same with lucas.

[blumfieldisback]

and you forgot Hille as well.

[Jimthegreat]

Rumour has it that the Bombers are already looking to draft a mature-aged ruckman and a small in-and-under type in next year's draft - Courtney Walsh and Courtney Cox.
You have to hand it Sheeds, he does think "beyond the square" looking overseas again, selecting a West Indian fast bowler and an actress from "Friends"!!!!! Be interesting when Courtney Cox works "in and under"!!

[OneEyedHawk]

Did very well IMO.

Pound-for-pound (considering their picks), they were one of the big winners.

[Longy413]

Probably all the FFs who got to play in front of a midfield that boasted 3 top-5 selections and absolutely walked the league winning by 10 goals every week. If anything he should have kicked a hell of a lot more goals.

Matt Burgan said yesterday during the draft coverage that he quite possibly would have gone second round or early third round.

Come on how would you know that DoDo rated Ryder as their #1? he only does what Sheedy tells him to do.

Absolute crap. Sheedy wasn't even in the country in the lead up to the draft. Flew into Melbourne yesterday morning.

[Johnson#26]

They should be pretty pleased. Ryder will be very good for them - the Dons are in need of a ruckman to back up Hille and Laycock.

Dempsey seems the sort which will prosper under Sheedy.

[FootyFreakhere]

I definetly believe we got sam lonergan as a steal, i think most were expecting him to go alot earlier on in the selction. and sheedy himself even said he was ready to pick him up at number 19 and could believe his luck when lonergan was still there, there was no debate thatwe did well and think with new blood like this in our mighty team we will go far. I'd like to see lonergan play next season he is one tough kid and i think he'll stand up.

your opion on sam lonergan?

[pazza]

I'm pretty sure at WH this morning, Dodoro has to have sat down with his coffee and thought...geez my interstate spotters are bloody decent!

[FootyFreakhere]

i agree lonergan really seems to pull it out of the bag when your not expecting
i reckon he definetly got it in him

[mcphee_is_a_gun]

Looking back now i think our draft was reasonable.

Pat Ryder- Good get has shown glimpses of his talent.


Courtney Dempsey- Biggest Steal imo, very quick and smart player. Similar to Daniel Wells. Similar player to Varcoe who was taken before him and has shown alot more imo.


Jay Neagle- Developement player hasnt shown much other than the screamer he toomk in the VFL which is up for mark of the year.

Sam Lonergan- Good clearance player and a handy goalsneak. A JJ replica with better skills.

Austin Lucy- Started off the season very slowly but has gotten better over the course of the season. Remains to be seen if he can develope enough to make it at AFL level