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richcogs
26 Nov 2005, 11:47
Who were they???????? Hurn, Hughes, ect.........

The Shag
26 Nov 2005, 11:49
Lucy to essendon at sixty-something.....bloody steal

DaSawx
26 Nov 2005, 11:50
Ryder and Lucy :D

TheGeneral
26 Nov 2005, 11:51
Hurn for mine but I couldn't believe Bower was available at pick 20.

Swallow at 44 is way better than Lucy Shag.

Lajon
26 Nov 2005, 11:52
It's hard to judge who the steals really were until they have performed and you can look back and go "wow simon black at 31 was great ey?"

Based on what these kids have done so far in juniors and reputation, it seems that Lucy and Swallow were 2 players whose clubs would have been happy to pick them up so late.

The Dice Man
26 Nov 2005, 11:52
Hurn for mine but I couldn't believe Bower was available at pick 20.

Swallow at 44 is way better than Lucy Shag.


Lucy Shag.. is that a real name??? :eek:

magpies42
26 Nov 2005, 11:52
i cant believe we didnt take muston at 21

Embers
26 Nov 2005, 11:53
Hurn and Swallow, in a heartbeat.

Also Toovey for whoever gets him in the Rookie draft.

dirk pitt
26 Nov 2005, 11:55
If anything I reckon the fact that Lucy was barely drafted show just how overated he has been (and continues to be by some).

cosby
26 Nov 2005, 11:57
it's too early. and for those who think lucy was a steal, there's gotto be a reason he slipped so much.
until the picks actually perform no one is a steal.

Waite30
26 Nov 2005, 11:58
Bower at 20 and Muston at 22.

TheGeneral
26 Nov 2005, 11:59
Lucy Shag.. is that a real name??? :eek:
I want to meet her if she exists but my impatience failed the punctuation test this time.

Nightwolf
26 Nov 2005, 12:01
Hughes in the 20's...

Muston at 22:)

theorangeapple
26 Nov 2005, 12:05
Bombers did well IMO

Hughes is an unknown really, I think he was overated because everyone just presumed the Doggies would go the best tall at 11 and he was 5th in line.

Muston was worth 22. Not sure the hawks are the club to take that risk. It might well pay off.

Bower at 20 wasnt a steal. If anything it was paying over the odds.

LukeHodge15
26 Nov 2005, 12:08
shannon hurn----------steal of the draft-he is a footballer not an athlete.

at least with hurn u know he can play the game of footy.

andrew swallow--------another footballer with the one weakness being his kicking. have the recruiters got it wrong 2 drafts in a row........time will tell

mattyc2422
26 Nov 2005, 12:09
Muston.

79Vintage
26 Nov 2005, 12:09
Will only be proven in time, by my personal rankings -

Drum at 10 for Freo.
Jones at 12 for Melb.
McKinley at 29 for West Coast
Hughes at 24 for Richmond
Tuck at 38 for Hawthorn
Swallow at 43 for Kangaroos
Obst at 48 for Port
Laidlaw at 51 for Sydney
Minson at 58 for Port

Scham
26 Nov 2005, 12:11
I think Sydney did well with pick 51, Laidlaw.

and WC did well getting McKinley where they did.

Ryder could turn out to be a steal at 7 as well.

Embers
26 Nov 2005, 12:14
Dont know about Hughes being a steal....

McKinley was a bit of a steal considering we rated him as a top 15 prospect and were about to take him with pick 13.

cosby
26 Nov 2005, 12:21
No One Has Played A Game Yet = No Steals

Cerpin Taxt
26 Nov 2005, 12:23
lol, who knows? I'd like to think Hurn was a steal.

jrussell
26 Nov 2005, 12:23
Kennedy a steal!

TheGeneral
26 Nov 2005, 12:24
Bower at 20 wasnt a steal. If anything it was paying over the odds.
He would have gone not long after pick 20 and Carlton had to take him so maybe he isn't a steal.

Still a great get for Carlton and he fills our needs more than any other player taken in the 2nd round.

Thankfully we didn't take Spangher instead.;)

Embers
26 Nov 2005, 12:26
lol, who knows? I'd like to think Hurn was a steal.

He was, everyone wud admit that, Kennedy was rated as pick 4 so its hard to classify him as a steal.

evo
26 Nov 2005, 12:26
Hughes and Swallow were absolute bargains.Mckinley was a top 15 for mine,good get at 29.

Still amazed that Riscbeith,Mc Entee and Jackson weren't pick up.

cro_Magnum
26 Nov 2005, 12:30
Will only be proven in time, by my personal rankings -

Drum at 10 for Freo.
Jones at 12 for Melb.
McKinley at 29 for West Coast
Hughes at 24 for Richmond
Tuck at 38 for Hawthorn
Swallow at 43 for Kangaroos
Obst at 48 for Port
Laidlaw at 51 for Sydney
Minson at 58 for Port
Obst at 48 went to the Crows

blumfieldisback
26 Nov 2005, 12:32
i cant believe we didnt take muston at 21


you got stanley who was widely being predicted as a possible top 10, you cant have them all and muston might not even play who knows how his knee holds up.

I reckon collingwood made the worst decision in picking thomas no.2. Although I rated the kid highly you would have got him no.5, should have gone for kennedy with no.2 or ellis.

blumfieldisback
26 Nov 2005, 12:38
and ryder would have to be a steal at pick 7 should have gone 2 or 3. If he wasnt available we would have chosen higgins.

vinnie_vegas69
26 Nov 2005, 12:40
The last player picked up, Justin Sweeney from Tyabb, could end up being the best player from the draft. Undoubtedly, one of the rookie draft selections will go on to become an All Australian.

We won't know who's a steal until the players actually play. Until then what you're asking is "who was picked lower than Burgan and FootyDraft predicted?"

White Czar
26 Nov 2005, 15:00
I reckon Hurn is a great get that late.

Didnt think Hughes would be around @ our 2nd pick. I was happy to get him @ 8 :eek: :)

jackson_rules
26 Nov 2005, 15:10
Kennedy a steal!
how can someone picked so early be a steal, so you think murphy was a steal as well:rolleyes:

theorangeapple
26 Nov 2005, 15:12
He would have gone not long after pick 20 and Carlton had to take him so maybe he isn't a steal.

Still a great get for Carlton and he fills our needs more than any other player taken in the 2nd round.

Thankfully we didn't take Spangher instead.;)

You are right, he would have gone before your next pick and combine that with your pressing needs for a tall back then it was a fair pick at 20. But wasnt a steal (as yet anyway).

BTW, Spangher > Bower ;)

jrussell
26 Nov 2005, 15:48
how can someone picked so early be a steal, so you think murphy was a steal as well:rolleyes:

Compared to how much Collingwood had to pay for two, soft outside midfielders, he was an absolute steal.:D

jules101
26 Nov 2005, 17:33
If anything I reckon the fact that Lucy was barely drafted show just how overated he has been (and continues to be by some).

thank u for that incredibly stupid comment, "barely drafted", ur either drafted or ur not drafted.

DaSawx
26 Nov 2005, 17:36
thank u for that incredibly stupid comment, "barely drafted", ur either drafted or ur not drafted.

It was really late and close to the end, therefore you could say he was barely drafted

jules101
26 Nov 2005, 17:43
It was really late and close to the end, therefore you could say he was barely drafted

so? wats the difference if he was drafted number 1 or 66 he was still drafted. he was nearly not drafted I would understand but you can't say "barely drafted". Its not a maybe thing. Yes he was drafted or No he wasn't.

YAKUZA
26 Nov 2005, 18:06
Could've sworn that someone reckoned Mills from Claremont was going to be a steal, perhaps I was dreaming!

DaSawx
26 Nov 2005, 18:09
so? wats the difference if he was drafted number 1 or 66 he was still drafted. he was nearly not drafted I would understand but you can't say "barely drafted". Its not a maybe thing. Yes he was drafted or No he wasn't.

WTF? Barely and not nearly is exactly the same :p

Crow-mosone
26 Nov 2005, 20:20
so? wats the difference if he was drafted number 1 or 66 he was still drafted. he was nearly not drafted I would understand but you can't say "barely drafted". Its not a maybe thing. Yes he was drafted or No he wasn't.

FFS he was lucky to get a gig at all. clubs were passing rather than take him.

~GURU~
26 Nov 2005, 20:46
For me Shannon Hurn at 13 and Nathan Jones at 12, they were good gets

saladin
26 Nov 2005, 21:55
logic says that if you have 20 players touted as worthy top 10 picks, then there are really 10 "steals" straight up! but of course, you can't draft everyone you want. so, really, you need to look at people who clearly went lower than anyone suspected. on that basis, swallow is probably the "steal". he went at least 30 places lower than most "judges" thought likely.

and you'd have to say that getting a well regarded FB prospect at 66 is an excellent punt. they are worth their weight in gold if they come through - hell, north gave two 1st rounders for hay!

but as others have said, it means nothing until they have played a few years. carlton rated murphy tops, essendon apparently ryder, collingwood thought thomas better than ellis. the whole thing is too clouded. i still cannot believe that 70-odd players were picked, but ryan jackson was not one of them!! offer him a rookie spot, bombers!!!

Bobby Beecroft
26 Nov 2005, 22:06
how can someone picked so early be a steal, so you think murphy was a steal as well:rolleyes:

Considering the offer from the Lions............. perhaps he was :rolleyes:

mediumsizered
26 Nov 2005, 22:09
We won't know who's a steal until the players actually play. Until then what you're asking is "who was picked lower than Burgan and FootyDraft predicted?"
This is probably the most rational thing I have read on here since the draft this morning. Every recruiting officer would have known everything about everyone of the TAC Under 18 players and were choosing according to needs identified by each club's football department. Based on this, any player taken lower than the so called expert predictions, were still available because the club's with picks before these so called steals were selected, had identified other priorities. A steal in a draft would be if a quality player was chosen from right field, ie other clubs weren't aware of the player.

saladin
26 Nov 2005, 22:17
you're right. i guess for it to be a steal, even the drafting club wouldn't know how good the player is going to be. ala' James Hird.

andrew_embley
26 Nov 2005, 22:17
Hurn
Lucy, that late was worth it.
Swallow, considering the picks the Roos had and the fact that they had stocked up on 'experienced' types in trades for what looks like a potential tilt at the flag in the next 2 years or so.

mick ryan
27 Nov 2005, 08:14
Young Brabazon will prove to be the steal of the Draft, well done Sydney.