View Full Version : Some draft stats / breakdowns
Where they are from
TAC - 25
SANFL - 13
WAFL - 12
QLD - 6
Tas - 3
NSW - 1
Other - 2 (Rix - VFL, Sweeney - VCFL)
Recyled - 4 (Baird, Patful, Montgomery, Green)
You should play in the Under-18 championships
39 of the 66 players played in the championships.
9 guys were inelligable (Stokes, Brazabon, Gilbert, Vince, Rix, Patfull, Baird, Montgomery, Green)
4 guys missed injured - M.West, Muston, Gamble, Varcoe
So basically only 18 guys got picked up who were elligable to play in the Championships but weren't picked.
Of the top-30 players only 5 (Muston, Varcoe, Bailey, Cook and Riggio) weren't at the Championships.
All-Australian Under-18 team
17 of the 19 elligable members of the All-Australian team were drafted with only Jace Bode and Todd Grima missing out.
Draft camp
44 - were invited to draft camp
21 - were not at the DC.
44/73 DC invitees were selected with more to come in the rookie draft and some elligbale next year.
Ryan Cook at pick 23 was the highest not DC.
40 of the top 50 players taken were at draft camp.
Age breakdown
24 - Bottom age players (could have played another year in under-18s)
16 - Top age players but were not elligbale last year.
15 - Top age players who were elligbale last year but overlooked.
9 - Overage / mature players
(Marcus Drum was 'elligable' last year but didn't nominate so goes in as top-age, not elligbale).
Or
40 - first run talent.
24 - second chance draw.
AFL- AIS Academy
Not the best year. About 30 elligbale ex-Academy players in any year.
15 of them were chosen this year, so 50% strike rate which I suspect is a little lower than normal.
10 of the top-15 were Academy players.
Height counts
0 - under 175cm
6 - 180cm or less (Murphy, Jones, Varcoe, Douglas, Gamble, Stokes)
36 - 181-189cm (give or take one or two)
24 - 190cm+
skywalk750
27 Nov 2005, 11:49
Nice work, why didnt Jace Bode get drafted?
Nice work, why didnt Jace Bode get drafted?
Because he is a slow, heavy wingman who can't run with the ball. Has a ruck-rovers body but skirts wide to get easy touches. Have to prove that he can play as a centreman before clubs touch him.
Also very few inside centremen type players get picked up these days. It is almost a specialist position with only maybe Hurn getting a gig this year, Lewis last year.
Pessimistic
27 Nov 2005, 14:11
Very few metro melbourne teams kids being drafted - cause for concern ?
Scottroo
27 Nov 2005, 14:36
Weaver, do you rate Josh Sampson?
The Flying Belgian
27 Nov 2005, 15:07
Height counts
0 - under 175cm
6 - 180cm or less (Murphy, Jones, Varcoe, Douglas, Gamble, Stokes)
36 - 181-189cm (give or take one or two)
24 - 190cm+
Weaver, is the amount of talls usually to this proportion as far as you know?
mattyc2422
27 Nov 2005, 15:17
Very few metro melbourne teams kids being drafted - cause for concern ?
Bit worrying for Eastern Ranges with only Spangher picked. Guys like Hocking and Kelleher should be rookied.
Weaver, is the amount of talls usually to this proportion as far as you know?
A little bit taller this year I'd guess but not heaps.
Said it over and over and over again on this board. If you are under 180cm it is not enough to be good, not enough even to be excellent. Anything less than jaw-dropping and it is rookie list at best.
Very few metro melbourne teams kids being drafted - cause for concern ?
There was a very public spat between Neville Stibbard (Roos rec. mgr) and Dave Dickson (Metro coach) mid-season.
Stibbard said that Metro were naming kids who could win the championship but not get drafted. Dickson basically replied - where are these magic draftable kids? Dickson probably had a laugh when the Draft Camp list came out and there weren't too many that his selectors had missed.
Probably still has the edge in that argument after the draft.
Metro team - Murphy, Dowler, Jones, Douglas, McKinlay, Spangher, Warnock
Missed team - Cook, Edwards, Anthony, Tuck, Buckley
Refused invite to try for team - Laidlaw
A 13 Metro / 12 Country split is actually pretty unusual. Normally the Country kids have the edge. I suppose Metro was quite a bit more top-age than Country this year.
Bit worrying for Eastern Ranges with only Spangher picked. Guys like Hocking and Kelleher should be rookied.
Eastern were unlucky in a way. Most of their contenders (Spangher, Markovic, Kelly, Hocking, Wilson) had injury interupted years. Those borderline guys really need to play all the games, make the state squad and have good finals, but they just couldn't get on the field when they needed to.
Said it over and over and over again on this board. If you are under 180cm it is not enough to be good, not enough even to be excellent. Anything less than jaw-dropping and it is rookie list at best.
Unless you fancy coming to Sydney:D
I've heard that someone on a Melbourne radio station was commenting on how many midgets (ie under 180cm) the Swans have, and though they slightly overcounted, if you include those listed at 180cm you land up with
Williams
Buchanan
Schneider
Fosdike
Moore
Crouch
Schmidt
Spriggs
Willoughby
Brabrazon - drafted yesterday
Plus Garruba's been retained on the rookie list.
That is after losing Maxfield and Fixter this year, who would also have qualified, plus Ed Clarke delisted from the rookie list.
missionpossible
28 Nov 2005, 00:14
Height counts
0 - under 175cm
6 - 180cm or less (Murphy, Jones, Varcoe, Douglas, Gamble, Stokes)
36 - 181-189cm (give or take one or two)
24 - 190cm+
Gamble 185.9cm so that makes it 5 under 180cm.
[QUOTE=Weaver]Where they are from
0 - under 175cm
6 - 180cm or less (Murphy, Jones, Varcoe, Douglas, Gamble, Stokes)
QUOTE]
Rhan Hooper as well.
Gamble 185.9cm so that makes it 5 under 180cm.
But Rhan Hooper is 175ish I think, so still 6 < 180.
http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=risingstarprogram&spg=aisacademydisplay&articleid=174456
[QUOTE=Weaver]Where they are from
0 - under 175cm
6 - 180cm or less (Murphy, Jones, Varcoe, Douglas, Gamble, Stokes)
QUOTE]
Rhan Hooper as well.
Great minds,..
dirtydog444
28 Nov 2005, 10:32
Weaver, how do you rate Josh Sampson and Sam Elliott for rookie prospects?
Weaver, how do you rate Josh Sampson and Sam Elliott for rookie prospects?
Don't know much about Sampson other than he gets a lot of the ball.
Elliott, in the games I saw, is not a genuine in-and-under ball winner, and not a running link player either. He is the guy who stands close to the pack, receives the first handball from the guy on the deck, and then figures out how best to use the ball.
I don't think he is good enough to play that role in the AFL and will have to prove he can be an extractor against men. So maybe a rookie list. Maybe they'll wait and see what he does in the SANFL next year.
ThePope
28 Nov 2005, 13:20
9 guys were inelligable
who were elligable to play
17 of the 19 elligable members
some elligbale next year.
were not elligbale last year.
who were elligbale last year but overlooked.
(Marcus Drum was 'elligable' last year but didn't nominate so goes in as top-age, not elligbale).
About 30 elligbale ex-Academy players in any year.
Great breakdown, but it's eligible (sorry for being a spelling cop, but it distracts from otherwise great information!)
Height counts
24 - 190cm+
Any idea on the (roughly) 190-197 potential KPP vs >198cm potential ruck split?
stemline
28 Nov 2005, 15:51
Interesting that in a supposedly thin draft, other than Saints, no-one looked to the VFL or the Ammos.