Ovens and Murray

[Pearce off Jack]

How is Ferret Ednie going with Yarra this year???

And Matt Shir?
Ednie is flying, Shir solid!

[Scope]

Scope why didnt nth give hoggy the job when Lambert retired two tears ago?They obviously want a playing coach and seem to have made a huge mistake in keeping Lambert on and letting Hodgson,McCormick and probably a few others go?

I ask the same question all the time POJ, becuase I know for a fact Hoggy was as keen as mustard to coach the Hoppers, but they went for Lambert.
I know Hoggy was 4 times more popular by the bulk of the playing group than Corey, and although they would never admit it publicly, I think there is a bit of agnst between the two.
I don't think Lambert is in the same league as Hodgson as a coach, and I think he knows this and it bothers him.
I've heard Hoggy speak to the Myrtleford players and he is faultless, no wonder he is loved up in the Hills.
The way he conducts himself off the field and after matches smacks of class.
North Albury would be mad to sign Lambert for another year - no offence Harsh but fair.
They need some fresh ideas and a playing coach is imperative in this compeition, in my opinion.

[Agent]

I ask the same question all the time POJ, becuase I know for a fact Hoggy was as keen as mustard to coach the Hoppers, but they went for Lambert.
I know Hoggy was 4 times more popular by the bulk of the playing group than Corey, and although they would never admit it publicly, I think there is a bit of agnst between the two.
I don't think Lambert is in the same league as Hodgson as a coach, and I think he knows this and it bothers him.
I've heard Hoggy speak to the Myrtleford players and he is faultless, no wonder he is loved up in the Hills.
The way he conducts himself off the field and after matches smacks of class.
North Albury would be mad to sign Lambert for another year - no offence Harsh but fair.
They need some fresh ideas and a playing coach is imperative in this compeition, in my opinion.

I would have to say I agree with you about the way hoggy speaks to players scope. I went into a three quarter time huddle a few weeks ago and after hoggy had finished speaking heard quite a few spectators say how inspired they were. He can be quite Inspirational without yelling.

[harsh, but fair]

I am not advocating for his re-appointment.
My intention was to give a balanced account of what has happened at North Albury in the last 12 months.
My point is they have been a bit stiff.
Some good news for North Albury last night with goal-kicking legend Stan Sargeant inducted into the OM Hall Of Fame along with three-time Hoppers best and fairest winner John Smith.
Also inducted were Gary Williamson, Mac Holten and Len Ablett.
Good night had by all.

[In the mix]

How is Ferret Ednie going with Yarra this year???

And Matt Shir?

Craig Ednie is the best player in the competition with Myrtleford's Andrew Carey!
I know that is strange to hear when the guys is only about 4 foot tall and weighs in around 60 kilos, but his worth to the Pigeons is pretty amazing.
He is an absolute star, has the best foot skills in the competition bar no-one and can go forward and kick bags, despite his size!
If I was Yarra coach when they meet Myrt in the grand final, I would isolate him in the forward 50 from the word go.
I don't think the Saints have anyone to go with him.
I watched the Yarra/Myrt game as a nuetral supporter a few weeks ago and Bunn got him when he was forward, but he still made him look silly at stages. And Bunn has been great this year.
Also seen the Yarra/Albury game on Saturday and Ednie's last quarter was super.
He's worth the admission fee.

[Junkie]

Craig Ednie is the best player in the competition with Myrtleford's Andrew Carey!
I know that is strange to hear when the guys is only about 4 foot tall and weighs in around 60 kilos, but his worth to the Pigeons is pretty amazing.
He is an absolute star, has the best foot skills in the competition bar no-one and can go forward and kick bags, despite his size!
If I was Yarra coach when they meet Myrt in the grand final, I would isolate him in the forward 50 from the word go.
I don't think the Saints have anyone to go with him.
I watched the Yarra/Myrt game as a nuetral supporter a few weeks ago and Bunn got him when he was forward, but he still made him look silly at stages. And Bunn has been great this year.
Also seen the Yarra/Albury game on Saturday and Ednie's last quarter was super.
He's worth the admission fee.

Cheers mate!

He is a freak thats for sure. Has it all and was very stiff to be shown the door at Richmond.

[Scope]

Craig Ednie is the best player in the competition with Myrtleford's Andrew Carey!

These are the five players who will have the biggest say come finals!!!

1 - Steve McKee (Myrtleford)
2 - Tim Hargreaves (Yarrawonga)
3 - Andy Carey (Myrtleford)
4 - Luke Carroll (Albury)
5 - Kade Stevens (Lavington)

[Scope]

I agree agent everyone in the 5 is capable of winning the premiership but cant see the Bulldogs going to far!

I still think Myrtleford will win it.
They'll be back to full strength after the bye and the bye might be just what they needed.
Onviously Yarra are a tremendous side but how much improvement do they have left in them???
The Saints haven't even got out of second gear yet and watch for McKee to have a big September.
He has been super this year by all reports - he has kicked 40 odd goals but apparantly he has given off just as many.
And the big blokes don't get any smaller come finals!
The Saints biggest weakness is in the ruck.
It cost them a flag in 2001 and Doherty had a huge presence again in last year's decider.
Frawley and Doherty could haunt them again in a months time.
Any thought's on McKee pinch-hitting in the ruck?

[BonnScott]

I still think Myrtleford will win it.
They'll be back to full strength after the bye and the bye might be just what they needed.
Onviously Yarra are a tremendous side but how much improvement do they have left in them???
The Saints haven't even got out of second gear yet and watch for McKee to have a big September.
He has been super this year by all reports - he has kicked 40 odd goals but apparantly he has given off just as many.
And the big blokes don't get any smaller come finals!
The Saints biggest weakness is in the ruck.
It cost them a flag in 2001 and Doherty had a huge presence again in last year's decider.
Frawley and Doherty could haunt them again in a months time.
Any thought's on McKee pinch-hitting in the ruck?

I agree scope, they don t have a genuine ruckmen like frawley of doherty even eyres was good on the weekend, mcintyre looks to be struggling this year too, they have a very strong mix of mid-fielders that could slay other sides with an out an out ruckmen putting it down thier thoat.

Bring on Mckee!! give bourkey and hoggy the space you could even throw carey down there too.

[harsh, but fair]

The Saints lack leg speed compared to some of the other contenders, particularly Yarrawonga and could be exposed on the dry tracks come September.
Brad Murray is the key to the Saints.
His energy and work-rate around the footy when he is up and running makes the Saints a very hard team to beat.
But, he has had a wretched run with injury (broken leg, dislocated shoulder) and he's only got four weeks to get going again before finals.
He is still no certainty to play against Wang Rovers next weekend.

[Doona2]

Can anyone give us an update as to how Marcus Webb's form is with the Wang Rovers? Ripper little bloke Webby, last time I spoke to him he seemed pretty happy with life up the Hume, has he been getting a kick?

[BonnScott]

The Saints lack leg speed compared to some of the other contenders, particularly Yarrawonga and could be exposed on the dry tracks come September.
Brad Murray is the key to the Saints.
His energy and work-rate around the footy when he is up and running makes the Saints a very hard team to beat.
But, he has had a wretched run with injury (broken leg, dislocated shoulder) and he's only got four weeks to get going again before finals.
He is still no certainty to play against Wang Rovers next weekend.

No point in having leg speed if you can t win the footy harsh! but I agree he is very important to them and is thier captain. They knocked off yarra on a dry track without him too

[Gotheroos]

I hope Yarrawonga and someone else play off in the Grand Final and Yarrawonga get absolutely flogged.
I think Lavington and the boys form the hills are the only two other teams that can make it. And I think that Lavington are going to be the team to watch come September action. Gothelavypanthers!!!

[TuskenRaider]

Why the heavy dislike for Yarrawonga Gotheroos?

[Gotheroos]

I just don't want them to win it.

[FOOTYBOSS]

Why the heavy dislike for Yarrawonga Gotheroos?
Due to the fact that Furlan plays for them.

[Lavy_Panther]

I hope Yarrawonga and someone else play off in the Grand Final and Yarrawonga get absolutely flogged.
I think Lavington and the boys form the hills are the only two other teams that can make it. And I think that Lavington are going to be the team to watch come September action. Gothelavypanthers!!!
You've backed the right pony there, mate.

[roast beef roll]

I hope Yarrawonga and someone else play off in the Grand Final and Yarrawonga get absolutely flogged.
I think Lavington and the boys form the hills are the only two other teams that can make it. And I think that Lavington are going to be the team to watch come September action. Gothelavypanthers!!!

The lavy boys have got a bit of a habit rolling along during spetember in recent years. They'd have to make the top 3 to give them a good shot at it u'd think. We'll get a chance to see where they're at in the coming weeks, i reckon they've still gotta play the saints and pigeons again.

For mind yarra & myrt are a notch above the others in contention, but when the finals come round who knows how things will go. Panthers certainly have got a good group of experienced finals players.

Wot about albury, although up and down, their best seems to be good enough. Beaten Myrt once, matched it with yarra for a bit, played in 1point and 2 point games against panthers. can they put a few games together and threaten?

[half time raffle]

WHAT IS GOING ON WITH Corowa Rutherglen's form this year. For the most part they were around the mark in 2005 and with the addition of Jay Cambell, Carl Dickins and Glen Joyce from injury (despite his mid season exit) one would have thought they would further improve. Is it a case of internal crisis or have we perhaps underestimated the departure of some of the roos players from last year. The backline inparticular suffered from the loss of players, Cade Mills, Brent Corcran, Alistar McKensie and before his mid season return Dustin Mills, four of last years starting back 6. The players they have been replaced with have been inexperienced or simply not up to it. A player like Matthew Drum has had to play on the competitions best key forward and early on was admirable, however as the season has wore on it has become clear that he simply doesn't have the football tools to play at this level. Kade Kushert has not had his normal influence on matches. Have the roos got any recruits in the pipeline for next year to fill these key defensive posts? Does anyone know if any of the departed players will be returning in the near future.

[Agent]

Any predictions for this weekends games?

[Lavy_Panther]

Panthers to beat Yarra
Albury to beat the Magpies
Bulldogs to beat the Hoppers by 2 points.
Myrtleford to account for Rovers comfortably
Corowa to polish off Raiders.

[Agent]

Panthers to beat Yarra
Albury to beat the Magpies
Bulldogs to beat the Hoppers by 2 points.
Myrtleford to account for Rovers comfortably
Corowa to polish off Raiders.

Where is this game being played, if it is at LPO it would be an interesting game. At Yarrawonga I think the Pidgeons should win.

[Lavy_Panther]

Played at Yarrawonga.

[Big Fella 37]

........... your about two shakes short of a pull panther. I herd you may have injured your knee at training tuesday night putting you under an injury cloud and possibly upsetting the balance of the team. Who is likely to come in for you big fella? Kade Garland or...?
p.s
was the injury "really" done on the dance floor (where you do your best work) as suggested by lavy faithfull or lagitamatly at taining?

[roast beef roll]

........... your about two shakes short of a pull panther. I herd you may have injured your knee at training tuesday night putting you under an injury cloud and possibly upsetting the balance of the team. Who is likely to come in for you big fella? Kade Garland or...?
p.s
was the injury "really" done on the dance floor (where you do your best work) as suggested by lavy faithfull or lagitamatly at taining?

Who are we talking bout here BF37, sounds like you think you've got a scoop! Who are you suggesting the panther is?

Sounds like you know what a good pull involves as well BF37!:D

[Agent]

Any notable inclusions and ommissions for this week?

[Pearce off Jack]

Any notable inclusions and ommissions for this week?
B.Murray,A.Carey and S.Nightingale would have to be 3 huge ins for Myrtleford! What do you think Agent?

[roast beef roll]

Tim Hargraves involved in some sort of behind the play incident against the panthers yesterday, left the young bloke old cold in the goal square, convulsions followed, stretchered off and ambulance to hospital. Don't be surprised to hear more on the matter during the week.

[aussie fast bowler]

I didn't see the incident, but I'm gunna be blunt.

Hargraves is a coward.

He headbutted Joel Hartley 40 metres from the ball. From all accounts he knew hartley was behind him and threw his head back, i suppose you'd call it backwards headbutt. the contact left hartley face down on the deck in the goal square, then he went into convulsions for about 30 seconds or more supposedly due to lack of oxygen from his position on the ground.

Hargraves wondered about, hands in the air, claiming no responsibility as though the kid just fell over on his own.

Yarra claim it was some sort of accidental head clash.

Head clash yes, accidental no.

Accidents happen often and if this case was an accident the players would've sustained a fat lip, black eye or bugger all. If there was accidental contact both players would've acknowlegded this and prob got over it pretty quick, it happens.
Rarely, if ever, would an accident cause 1 player to be out cold and the other standing without a scratch and if it did the player without injury would surely show some concern for the other, especially if he was in trouble.
But no, tim stood 5 metres away claiming his innocence. F#!kwit!

Umpires have reported blokes for cream puff infringements like abusive language and pathetic striking charges, yet a goal umpire standing 10 metres max from the incident did bugger all and the field umpires went on to support hargraves claim of accidental contact despite not seeing it. Pathetic.

The league will prob investigate, and their findings will be inconclusive, as usual.

But as long as I follow ovens & murray footy i'll consider Tim Hargraves to be an absolute f*%king coward, regardless of the outcome.

[roast beef roll]

Some strong words there AFB.

If the incident happened as you say it did, i hope the investigation process smartens up and allows the tribunal to take action.

Never been much of a T Hargraves fan, he could be a nice bloke, but his onfield demeanour doesn't impress me.

Hope he gets wot he deserves

[Ozz12]

Aussie Fast Bowler,

How about you stick to cricket!

Sure no one likes to see any player knocked out, let alone if it was done in a spiteful way. However you are drawing quite a few long bows there considering by your own admission that you didn’t see the incident.

Whilst I'm not defending the umpires it sounds like they didn’t see the incident either. Thankfully they are smart enough to realise that they cant make stuff up (or listen to hearsay - unlike your good self), because if the umpires go to the tribunal the first question asked was "Did they see it".... Answer No = Case dismissed!

And given the double jeopardy rule - I would ask where is the justice in that?

If Lavington thinks it serious enough (and it sounds like it is) then it’s understand that the matter lies with the club to request the O&M investigations officer to look into it.

So back up the horses and stop trying to be the third umpire in the stands (with your flashing red light) and have a bit of faith that the matter will be heard.

[aussie fast bowler]

Aussie Fast Bowler,

How about you stick to cricket!

Sure no one likes to see any player knocked out, let alone if it was done in a spiteful way. However you are drawing quite a few long bows there considering by your own admission that you didn’t see the incident.

Whilst I'm not defending the umpires it sounds like they didn’t see the incident either. Thankfully they are smart enough to realise that they cant make stuff up (or listen to hearsay - unlike your good self), because if the umpires go to the tribunal the first question asked was "Did they see it".... Answer No = Case dismissed!

And given the double jeopardy rule - I would ask where is the justice in that?

If Lavington thinks it serious enough (and it sounds like it is) then it’s understand that the matter lies with the club to request the O&M investigations officer to look into it.

So back up the horses and stop trying to be the third umpire in the stands (with your flashing red light) and have a bit of faith that the matter will be heard.

Sounds like you are defending the umpires.

If they didn't see the incident then they need to shut their trap, rather then prance around saying "leave tim alone it was an accidental head clash". the way they came to that conclusion, was by listening to tim himself so that's your umpires don't listen to hearsay out the window.

Whether the matter is heard or not it certainly won't be forgotten. Disgraceful to say the least.

[Ozz12]

Sounds like you are defending the umpires.

If they didn't see the incident then they need to shut their trap, rather then prance around saying "leave tim alone it was an accidental head clash". the way they came to that conclusion, was by listening to tim himself so that's your umpires don't listen to hearsay out the window.

Whether the matter is heard or not it certainly won't be forgotten. Disgraceful to say the least.

Im defending the system - not the umpires.

The system is there for a reason... its meant to take the umpires, the parents, friends, team mates, supporters - everyone out of the equation and look at it through fact alone with the benefit of a calm and well though out process. Not with 36 players and 500-600 people holding a kangaroo court!

I would actually say that what is disgraceful is someone who implies that they are above the process and are quite happy to take matters into their own hands... although i could have mis-interpreted your last paragraph.

[BonnScott]

Umpires have reported blokes for cream puff infringements like abusive language and pathetic striking charges, yet a goal umpire standing 10 metres max from the incident did bugger all and the field umpires went on to support hargraves claim of accidental contact despite not seeing it. Pathetic.

Was at the game the weak prick got him off the ball. Gutless effort by goal umpire not to report. I d say it would be unlikely to be on video, If someone gets 2 weeks for abusive language then what is this worth O & MFL tribunal????

[aussie fast bowler]

Im defending the system - not the umpires.

The system is there for a reason... its meant to take the umpires, the parents, friends, team mates, supporters - everyone out of the equation and look at it through fact alone with the benefit of a calm and well though out process. Not with 36 players and 500-600 people holding a kangaroo court!

I would actually say that what is disgraceful is someone who implies that they are above the process and are quite happy to take matters into their own hands... although i could have mis-interpreted your last paragraph.

I'm happy with your first paragraph, makes a bit of sense.

But from then on you just dribbled!
At what stage in my last paragraph did i suggest anyone do anything. For someone who says i listen to hearsay, to then go and presume that i also feel i'm above the process shows that they are f*%king clueless.

You don't listen to hearsay (pat on the back, well done), instead you go the whole hog and just make sh*t up.... to say you might have mis-interpreted it is an understatment!

Fact is, if you ever see someone having convulsions, footy ground or not, you won't forget it, and knowing the reason it was happening was a cowardly low act, will etch it in my memory for ever.

read what you can into that!

[aussie fast bowler]

Umpires have reported blokes for cream puff infringements like abusive language and pathetic striking charges, yet a goal umpire standing 10 metres max from the incident did bugger all and the field umpires went on to support hargraves claim of accidental contact despite not seeing it. Pathetic.

Was at the game the weak prick got him off the ball. Gutless effort by goal umpire not to report. I d say it would be unlikely to be on video, If someone gets 2 weeks for abusive language then what is this worth O & MFL tribunal????

Spot on BS!

Yarra videod the game. Bet your backside there'll be no video evidence. If there was footage, it'd be incriminating so there's no chance of seeing a replay of it.

My opinion for an incident behind the play, attacking the head with intent = 6 weeks minimum

But nothing will happen!

[Harold]

Umpires have reported blokes for cream puff infringements like abusive language and pathetic striking charges, yet a goal umpire standing 10 metres max from the incident did bugger all and the field umpires went on to support hargraves claim of accidental contact despite not seeing it. Pathetic.

Was at the game the weak prick got him off the ball. Gutless effort by goal umpire not to report. I d say it would be unlikely to be on video, If someone gets 2 weeks for abusive language then what is this worth O & MFL tribunal????

if it wasnt intentional, how could any of the umpires report the player? how would you know what the goal umpire saw, he had a front on view, he wouldnt have been able to see if hargreaves really did throw his head back!! he couldnt have been able to judge distance between the players either!!

didnt think of any of that now did we???

[aussie fast bowler]

if it wasnt intentional, how could any of the umpires report the player? how would you know what the goal umpire saw, he had a front on view, he wouldnt have been able to see if hargreaves really did throw his head back!! he couldnt have been able to judge distance between the players either!!

Very simple H, if it wasn't intentional they have no need to report the player!
But if it wasn't intentional, how did he manage to be knocked out? If it wasn't intentional, why didn't tim check the bloke to see if he was ok? If it wasn't an intentional headbutt we wouldn't be talking about it!

I've got no idea what the goal ump saw, that's obvious cos i'm not the goal ump. Both the players were at the top of the goal square whilst a player was lining up for a shot at goal 40 metres away, what else did he have to look at?

You suggest he had a front on view, I'd agree, he would'v. U must've been there to know that. But to say he wouldn't have been able to see TH throw his head back is ridiculous. His chin would'v lifted considerably and pointed right at the goal umpire, at which point contact was made with hartley's face, (now he prob couldn't see any contact) and presto the kid is like a pancake on the deck. What does distance between the players have to do with it?

Players don't knock themselves out cold!

if contact was accidental, why the severe consequences for one and not the other!

if it was an accident then why did tim hide by the post with no ill effects with his hands in the air.....

i'll tell you why, it was no accident .... he was guilty!

[Gotheroos]

It will be interesting to see Lavy Panthers view on this. Is the club going to site him?
I also heard a rumour that if the clearances were still open that Ednie wouldn't be there. Anyone else heard this.

Pigeons coach far from impressed

YARRAWONGA coach Bob Craig expressed his displeasure at the lack of protection for the Pigeons players after a comfortable 59-point win against Corowa-Rutherglen at the John Foord Oval yesterday.
Craig?s ire was raised at a high charge on Luke Hammond early in the first quarter which forced him to sit out the remainder of the match in a concussed state.
The incident failed to attract the attention of the men in white, but later in the term, Corowa-Rutherglen?s reigning best and fairest winner and former Pigeons player, Guy Chisnall, went into the book for charging Yarrawonga?s Joel Price.
?It was going to be a danger game for us and I am happy with the result,? Craig said.
?Our blokes certainly played the ball all day and withstood the physical pressure Corowa applied to us.
?I think Corowa played a lot better when they were trying to get the footy.
?I will say once again the Yarrawonga players have been let down by those who are supposed to protect them.
?He (Hammond) took a savage blow early in the game and everybody on the ground could see it except for a couple of people.?
Chisnall will front the tribunal after being booked by field umpire Don Wilkinson in the first quarter which ended with the Pigeons on their way to gaining total control against the Roos.
Poor conversion prevented the Pigeons from opening a bigger lead than 22 points at quarter time with Tim Hargreaves opening Yarrawonga?s account with his 50th goal of the season.
But, the Pigeons frittered away a succession of scoring chances before clicking into top gear in the second term as their dynamic midfield started to take control.
Feasting off the excellent work in the ruck by man mountain Josh Frawley, the Pigeons took charge at ground level, led by Lawrence Furlan and Jason Wild.
The Pigeons defence was right on top as Dallas Gallagher and Matt Wollington repeatedly turned the Roos out and Scott Oswald rose to the challenge of playing on Corowa-Rutherglen star Adrian Newman.
The only blemish for the Pigeons was the double 50m penalty conceded by Simon Rudd as a result of sheer frustration at being denied a certain goal.
Corowa-Rutherglen managed its first goal of the match at the nine-minute mark of the second term to Jay Campbell, who finished the match on the bench nursing a knee injury.
The Pigeons piled on another six goals in the third term as Clint Runnalls cut loose to kick two of his four goals in the quarter.
Corowa-Rutherglen, trailing by 80 points, was staring at the grim prospect of registering its lowest ever score and a record loss against the Pigeons before fighting the game out with 5.5 to 2.2 last term.
?I am happy to be on top of the ladder, but we?ve still got a lot of work to do to produce the footy we know we can play,? Craig said.

I wonder what Bobby has to say about the action from one of his players after making statements like above in the Border. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones Bobby.

[Harold]

Very simple H, if it wasn't intentional they have no need to report the player!
But if it wasn't intentional, how did he manage to be knocked out? If it wasn't intentional, why didn't tim check the bloke to see if he was ok? If it wasn't an intentional headbutt we wouldn't be talking about it!

I've got no idea what the goal ump saw, that's obvious cos i'm not the goal ump. Both the players were at the top of the goal square whilst a player was lining up for a shot at goal 40 metres away, what else did he have to look at?

You suggest he had a front on view, I'd agree, he would'v. U must've been there to know that. But to say he wouldn't have been able to see TH throw his head back is ridiculous. His chin would'v lifted considerably and pointed right at the goal umpire, at which point contact was made with hartley's face, (now he prob couldn't see any contact) and presto the kid is like a pancake on the deck. What does distance between the players have to do with it?

Players don't knock themselves out cold!

if contact was accidental, why the severe consequences for one and not the other!

if it was an accident then why did tim hide by the post with no ill effects with his hands in the air.....

i'll tell you why, it was no accident .... he was guilty!

being a goal umpire, wouldnt he be focused on where the ball is, for the incoming shot at goal?

you saying that his chin WOULD'VE lifted considerably, does that mean you wernt there? how can you be commenting on the incident if you wernt there?

the distance between the players is a factor. the closer hartley was, the harder the force that wouldve been exerted on both players when hargreaves went to change direction.

and if the goal umpire didnt see any contact, how would it hold up in the tribunal??? it wouldnt

[Skut17]

Can anyone tell me how Danny Demarte is going at Wodonga Raiders? Obviously they aren't travelling real well, just wondering about the 'Wog'

[aussie fast bowler]

Can anyone tell me how Danny Demarte is going at Wodonga Raiders? Obviously they aren't travelling real well, just wondering about the 'Wog'

Can't be doing real well, haven't heard of him!

[aussie fast bowler]

being a goal umpire, wouldnt he be focused on where the ball is, for the incoming shot at goal?

you saying that his chin WOULD'VE lifted considerably, does that mean you wernt there? how can you be commenting on the incident if you wernt there?

the distance between the players is a factor. the closer hartley was, the harder the force that wouldve been exerted on both players when hargreaves went to change direction.

and if the goal umpire didnt see any contact, how would it hold up in the tribunal??? it wouldnt

Scroll back about 4 comments and have a read H, i was there, so i'll comment as much as i please.

i wouldn't expect the goal umps eyes to be fixed on either the incident in question or the bloke lining up. His primary job is whether it goes through the sticks or not.
i expect he'd have his eyes open, and that would've been enough as the incident was 10 metres away and between him and the bloke kicking at goal.

And what's this story about hargraves changing directions, one of the yarra boys was 40m out having a shot, tim wasn't even contemplating a lead.

Put your brain into gear you d$%k head, 2 players with no one within 20 metres or more, one throws his head back at the other and instantly the bloke behind falls like a sack of sh#t, wouldn't hold up at the tribunal my a#se!

[In the mix]

And what's this story about hargraves changing directions, one of the yarra boys was 40m out having a shot, tim wasn't even contemplating a lead.

Put your brain into gear you d$%k head, 2 players with no one within 20 metres or more, one throws his head back at the other and instantly the bloke behind falls like a sack of sh#t, wouldn't hold up at the tribunal my a#se!

You timid Lavington souls drop like sacks of Sh*t if someone even looks at you in a derogatory manner – so maybe that’s what happened!!!!
Some of you guys are no angels so how about you just stop your whinging; it achieves stuff all by howling like a school girl on this forum and won’t make the kid who was hurt feel any better.
If any of you blokes had any ticker you would have dropped Hargy after the incident if it was that bad, you know go in and fly the flag for your mate!
Oh, but you have to show a bit of fight to do that…

[Lavy_Panther]

You timid Lavington souls drop like sacks of Sh*t if someone even looks at you in a derogatory manner – so maybe that’s what happened!!!!
Some of you guys are no angels so how about you just stop your whinging; it achieves stuff all by howling like a school girl on this forum and won’t make the kid who was hurt feel any better.
If any of you blokes had any ticker you would have dropped Hargy after the incident if it was that bad, you know go in and fly the flag for your mate!
Oh, but you have to show a bit of fight to do that…
Seriously mate, **** off.

[aussie fast bowler]

You timid Lavington souls drop like sacks of Sh*t if someone even looks at you in a derogatory manner – so maybe that’s what happened!!!!
Some of you guys are no angels so how about you just stop your whinging; it achieves stuff all by howling like a school girl on this forum and won’t make the kid who was hurt feel any better.
If any of you blokes had any ticker you would have dropped Hargy after the incident if it was that bad, you know go in and fly the flag for your mate!
Oh, but you have to show a bit of fight to do that…



We're more than happy to fly the flag... in fact we might fly the 2005 flag... showed enough to fight to get it!

[aussie fast bowler]

Can anyone tell me how Danny Demarte is going at Wodonga Raiders? Obviously they aren't travelling real well, just wondering about the 'Wog'

Skut17, he was named 1 of the best in the paper from the weekend in the raiders reserves.

[Skut17]

Skut17, he was named 1 of the best in the paper from the weekend in the raiders reserves.

Ta bud

[half time raffle]

Tim Hargraves involved in some sort of behind the play incident against the panthers yesterday, left the young bloke old cold in the goal square, convulsions followed, stretchered off and ambulance to hospital. Don't be surprised to hear more on the matter during the week.

I've never been a Tim Hargraves fan, a talented player no doubt, but he is a whinger, a front runner and yes i have to agree he is cowardly. I have played on Tim when Yarra's winning percentage wasn't as good as it currently is and he was terrible especially to those on his own side. If the ball was not delivered sufficently to him he would abuse his own team mates regards less of their age or experience - respect doesn't seem to be one of his strong points, which is fine because he has very little respect around the league for someone with such a decorated career. I've been involved in games where he hardly got a kick but heard he never had any problems with collecting his cheque. Players like that really annoy me because their great when things are going well but as soon as theres a problem their the first to drop their bundle. I hope Tim gets whats coming to him because there are alot of players who would love to have given it to him like hes given it to young Hartley. Maybe we should get former Corowa Rutherglen player Danny Shiers to have a word with Tim, we all know that they were great mates.

[Pearce off Jack]

Lets face it Hargraves has been running around belting blokes for years and everyone knows it! If he goes for this then it is well overdue!

[arceri]

It might be difficult to arrange the Hargreaves and Shiers meeting due to a few logistical probems.

[BonnScott]

It will be interesting to see Lavy Panthers view on this. Is the club going to site him?
I also heard a rumour that if the clearances were still open that Ednie wouldn't be there. Anyone else heard this.

Very interesting Gotheroos, bit of trouble in the camp at Yarra anyone care to elaborate??

Also heard that recruit Furlan is nt the best bloke around eithier

[harsh, but fair]

It might be difficult to arrange the Hargreaves and Shiers meeting due to a few logistical probems.

Clever!

[Pearce off Jack]

You might be able to tell us whats going on at Yarra Harsh But Fair!

[In the mix]

Seriously mate, **** off.

Struck a nerve then hey!
The language on this forum is appalling though - A simple 'Go Away' would achieve the same result.

[In the mix]

You might be able to tell us whats going on at Yarra Harsh But Fair!

I'm not harsh but fait but I think too many chiefs and not enough indians!
When you have ego's like Hargreaves and Ednie in the same side your going to have problems.
Both want to be the star and centre of attention.
Ednie and Bob Craig do not see eye to eye i'm told.
Another interesting one is apparantly Lavi Panthers aren't real keen on big Timba coaching again next year.
Another one with a huge ego which might be dented!!!

[Pearce off Jack]

I'm not harsh but fait but I think too many chiefs and not enough indians!
When you have ego's like Hargreaves and Ednie in the same side your going to have problems.
Both want to be the star and centre of attention.
Ednie and Bob Craig do not see eye to eye i'm told.
Another interesting one is apparantly Lavi Panthers aren't real keen on big Timba coaching again next year.
Another one with a huge ego which might be dented!!!
Would be safe to say Tim Hargreavs has the biggest ego!Can anyone confirm that Ednie walked off the ground and straight into his car at the end of their win against Albury?

[In the mix]

Would be safe to say Tim Hargreavs has the biggest ego!Can anyone confirm that Ednie walked off the ground and straight into his car at the end of their win against Albury?

I was at that game, he didn't.
But it was the week before against Wang Rovers I am told.
I reckon Yarra is like a time-bomb, something has gott give its been too perfect for them.

[Big Fella 37]

hey Roast beef roll
your ugly and your mum wears army boots

[aussie fast bowler]

hey Roast beef roll
your ugly and your mum wears army boots

Nice 1 BF37!

But she told me your hung like a field mouse!

[Big Fella 37]

Nice 1 BF37!

But she told me your hung like a field mouse!

"I hear you bowl a poor line and length and err on the side of too short, opposed to too full, thus giving the batsman a chance to rock back and hook"

Does roast beef role know about your fledgling relationship with his mother? She is a fine woman you make sure you treat her right young fella.

Go lavy! Jay banks for president!

[roast beef roll]

hey Roast beef roll
your ugly and your mum wears army boots

C'mon BF37, leave mrs roll out of it! Mind you she got those army boots cheap from the trading post!

AFB, great sledge before, thanks for looking after mrs roll!

[Harold]

how about all of you stop your little girlie bitch fights and actually talk about what we are supposedly here to talk about, O&M football!!!

[Big Fella 37]

how about all of you stop your little girlie bitch fights and actually talk about what we are supposedly here to talk about, O&M football!!!

yea fair call H man.
Anyone know how Laurence Ferlan is going for yarra? getting a kick.

[Harold]

um well he has kicked 16 goals this season

maybe some of the yarra guys on here can help you out a little more

[king kong]

Obviously not to many pigeon fans on here! Furlan has been one of yarras better players this season and will be a contender for their b&f this year.

[BonnScott]

Obviously not to many pigeon fans on here! Furlan has been one of yarras better players this season and will be a contender for their b&f this year.

I have heard from a member of the bullants he plays pretty close to the boundary line and is a pretty ordinary bloke king kong?

[king kong]

I have heard from a member of the bullants he plays pretty close to the boundary line and is a pretty ordinary bloke king kong?


can't comment on him as a bloke. i deffinately wouldn't say he plays close to the boundary line, there is another bloke you would say that about.

[BonnScott]

Care to elaborate??

[king kong]

Care to elaborate??

#30.

[fish1]

See below

[fish1]

#30.

Has never been known for his hard in and under work, but for his skills. Would have thought his change in body composition may have helped him on the field as well as it does with the girls down at Torquay.

[Gotheroos]

Has never been known for his hard in and under work, but for his skills. Would have thought his change in body composition may have helped him on the field as well as it does with the girls down at Torquay.

Classic!!
But you could be built like Tarzan and play like Jane.

The old saying is "you get the kicks you get the chicks"
Don't worry son it will come one day.

[Here It Is]

My Top 10 players after round 16

1. Anthony Tucci (Wangaratta Rovers) 69
2. Kade Stevens (Lavington) 68
3. Dale Carmody (Wangaratta) 65
4. Matt Witherden (Corowa-Rutherglen) 64
5. Calan McClay (Albury) 62
6. Rhys Fitzpatrick (Myrtleford) 58
7. Daniel Leslie (North Albury) 57
7. Simon McCormick (Wodonga) 57
9. Mark Doolan (Wodonga Raiders) 54
10. Jason Wild (Yarrawonga) 53

[half time raffle]

My Top 10 players after round 16

1. Anthony Tucci (Wangaratta Rovers) 69
2. Kade Stevens (Lavington) 68
3. Dale Carmody (Wangaratta) 65
4. Matt Witherden (Corowa-Rutherglen) 64
5. Calan McClay (Albury) 62
6. Rhys Fitzpatrick (Myrtleford) 58
7. Daniel Leslie (North Albury) 57
7. Simon McCormick (Wodonga) 57
9. Mark Doolan (Wodonga Raiders) 54
10. Jason Wild (Yarrawonga) 53


I must have missed one hell of a transformation in 2006 if Anothny Tucci is top of the tree. My recollection of Tucci is an annoying little insect running around the forward 50 snapping the occasional goal, certainly not in the elite of the Ovens and Murray

[Pearce off Jack]

I must have missed one hell of a transformation in 2006 if Anothny Tucci is top of the tree. My recollection of Tucci is an annoying little insect running around the forward 50 snapping the occasional goal, certainly not in the elite of the Ovens and Murray
Come on Half time raffle surely he is a better player than Stevens,Fitzpatrick,McCormick,Leslie,Doolan and Wild

[Pearce off Jack]

Where has Mongoose gone?I love it when he gets on here and ruffles a few feathers!!!!!

[king kong]

Come on Half time raffle surely he is a better player than Stevens,Fitzpatrick,McCormick,Leslie,Doolan and Wild
hahaha. i like it.

[Here It Is]

Don't worry, it's a massive surprise for me too.
But I can only go on the best players named as detailed earlier in this thread.
The Rovers obviously reckon he's going alright.

[The Flying Wombat]

Rumour has it that a certain o&m reserves coach could be in line for the Job at Nth Albury next year, pending on how the his twos end up this season.

[Here It Is]

Lavington 14.12 96 def Wangaratta 11.11 77
Yarrawonga 18.15 123 def Wodonga 8.5 53
Myrtleford 22.15 147 def Albury 12.15 87
Wangaratta Rovers 15.12 102 def Wodonga Raiders 14.15 99
Corowa-Rutherglen 20.7 127 def North Albury 9.10 64

Ladder
Yarrawonga 60, Myrtleford 48, Lavington 40, Albury 36 (103%), Wodonga 36 (99%), Corowa-Rutherglen 28 (94%), Wangaratta Rovers 24, North Albury 24, Wangaratta 20, Wodonga Raiders 4.

Last two rounds - Raiders v Albury, Wang v Wodonga, Cor-R'glen v Rovers; Albury v Cor-R'glen, Wodonga v Myrtleford.

Wodonga could easily lose last two and Corowa-Rutherglen could easily win them.
Can the Roos still make it???

[hectomorphic]

Who was the pigeons player who was on Almost football legends Thurs night who went in to kick the goal and had his foot over the line? I think it was number 9?

[The Flying Wombat]

How is Damian Slater going this year can anyone tell me? Is he playing good football. Is he going to coach Nth Albury next year?

[slim18]

Heard a rumour that one of the Wang teams is chasing former Benalla saint,GVrep and now ass coach at Greta in the o&k Tom Hazel. Anyone know?

[Here It Is]

My Top 10 players after round 16

1. Kade Stevens (Lavington) 74
2. Matt Witherden (Corowa-Rutherglen) 72
3. Anthony Tucci (Wangaratta Rovers) 69
4. Rhys Fitzpatrick (Myrtleford) 67
5. Dale Carmody (Wangaratta) 65
6. Calan McClay (Albury) 62
7. Simon McCormick (Wodonga) 61
8. Paul Bunn (Myrtleford) 60
9. Daniel Leslie (North Albury) 57
10. Brent Piltz (Myrtleford) 55

[off the cuff]

Lavington 14.12 96 def Wangaratta 11.11 77
Yarrawonga 18.15 123 def Wodonga 8.5 53
Myrtleford 22.15 147 def Albury 12.15 87
Wangaratta Rovers 15.12 102 def Wodonga Raiders 14.15 99
Corowa-Rutherglen 20.7 127 def North Albury 9.10 64

Ladder
Yarrawonga 60, Myrtleford 48, Lavington 40, Albury 36 (103%), Wodonga 36 (99%), Corowa-Rutherglen 28 (94%), Wangaratta Rovers 24, North Albury 24, Wangaratta 20, Wodonga Raiders 4.



Whats going on with Rovers sneaking home vs Raiders....does anyone have info on the game,who kicked the winner?
I also noticed Peter Cristoforo didnt kick a goal,did he play?

Any info anyone?

[BonnScott]

My Top 10 players after round 16

1. Kade Stevens (Lavington) 74
2. Matt Witherden (Corowa-Rutherglen) 72
3. Anthony Tucci (Wangaratta Rovers) 69
4. Rhys Fitzpatrick (Myrtleford) 67
5. Dale Carmody (Wangaratta) 65
6. Calan McClay (Albury) 62
7. Simon McCormick (Wodonga) 61
8. Paul Bunn (Myrtleford) 60
9. Daniel Leslie (North Albury) 57
10. Brent Piltz (Myrtleford) 55


Stevens I think will win the Morris HIS but Surely most of these blokes would be right in the hunt to take out club B & Fs? The 3 from Mryt I think will be the contenders. Willl you continue this system into the finals HIS?

[Here It Is]

The list also applies to club best and fairest predictions - and if clubs decide the best players, I have a good chance of those - think I got 6-8 right last year.
I don't usually take it into the finals because it is used as a way to predict the Morris Medal, which of course doesn't vote in finals.

[hammer_time]

How is Damian Slater going this year can anyone tell me? Is he playing good football. Is he going to coach Nth Albury next year?

only just getting a kick. kicked 4 goals for the year hasnt had his name recorded in the best yet

[barrybogan]

My Top 10 players after round 16

1. Kade Stevens (Lavington) 74
2. Matt Witherden (Corowa-Rutherglen) 72
3. Anthony Tucci (Wangaratta Rovers) 69
4. Rhys Fitzpatrick (Myrtleford) 67
5. Dale Carmody (Wangaratta) 65
6. Calan McClay (Albury) 62
7. Simon McCormick (Wodonga) 61
8. Paul Bunn (Myrtleford) 60
9. Daniel Leslie (North Albury) 57
10. Brent Piltz (Myrtleford) 55


no one from yarra up there? considering they have only dropped one game by 8 points and pretty much flogged opponents the rest of the time this year, i don't think too many opposition players would have picked up votes against them.

[BuckDaddy]

Rumour has it that a certain o&m reserves coach could be in line for the Job at Nth Albury next year, pending on how the his twos end up this season.

dont think it would be to hard to kill this rumour. have a look at the current list of reserve grade coaches and then check on the performance (and that easily 2 of them out). you have;

wang magpies: Andrew Smith
myrtleford: Scott McMaster
yarrawonga: Gary Browning
Wodonga Bulldogs: Damien Slater
Lavington: Marc Almond
Wang Rovers: Bob Murray
Albury: Dallas Kotzur
North Albury: Mick Thornycroft

all have very different pros, one is a afl premiership player and one is a SENIOR player with his current club. These GUys would be my targets. but who are they? anyone Know?

[hammer_time]

dont think it would be to hard to kill this rumour. have a look at the current list of reserve grade coaches and then check on the performance (and that easily 2 of them out). you have;

wang magpies: Andrew Smith
myrtleford: Scott McMaster
yarrawonga: Gary Browning
Wodonga Bulldogs: Damien Slater
Lavington: Marc Almond
Wang Rovers: Bob Murray
Albury: Dallas Kotzur
North Albury: Mick Thornycroft

all have very different pros, one is a afl premiership player and one is a SENIOR player with his current club. These GUys would be my targets. but who are they? anyone Know?

Gary Browning no chance what so ever to coach them.
didn't know mark almond coached the 2's... he and damien slater have both been playing senior football.

[Here It Is]

no one from yarra up there? considering they have only dropped one game by 8 points and pretty much flogged opponents the rest of the time this year, i don't think too many opposition players would have picked up votes against them.

Yarra obviously have more good players and have been sharing their points around more.
As such:

12. Jason Wild 53
13. Dallas Gallagher 51
18. Scott Oswald 47
20. Lawrence Furlan 46
23. Tim Hargreaves 45
33. Clint Runnalls 40
36. Craig Ednie 39
36. Matt Wollington 39
38. Marc Lonergan 38
45. Simon Rudd 33
47. Luke Hammond 32

11 in the Top 50 at the moment - that's a fairer assessment of how well the Pigeons are going.

[The Flying Wombat]

Damian Slater would be hot favourite wouldn't he? He has some good coaching credentials doesn't he and had a fair bit of success from what I have heard.

[BIG "H"]

There is only two sides in the running Yarrawonga an Myrtleford. They will play off come sun 24th sept. All other teams should start planning for next year!

[BIG "H"]

Rumours are 2 albury players will head to dederang next year to take over from pagey. Also former raider captain and current Chiltern coach Brendan Way could be in the running for the north albury job.

[Pearce off Jack]

Indeed young fellow big DJ has a known presence on this forum. Yet it is not him that i am referring to with my "tongue in cheek" remark.

Are there any other past players from nth albury that could make a come back to the club in the wake of lambo's leaving.
Ashley Eames
Mc cormack
Jarred Dickson
Shannon Gillson
half the myrtleford side
Maybe a delisted AFL player might take up the job?
Who else apart from Piltz and Hodgson is at Myrtleford big fella?

[Lionel Ritchie]

Damian Slater would be hot favourite wouldn't he? He has some good coaching credentials doesn't he and had a fair bit of success from what I have heard.

I have also heard that damian Slater is High on the list for the Nth Albury coaching job. He is pretty high up at C.U.B, apparently he is going to take demotion from his job to concentrate on coaching next year. I was talking to a bloke the other day who used to play with him for a club near Bendigo. He was saying Slater turned the club around from cellar dwellars to winning three premierships in a row he got decent coin to do it apprently $1000 a game

[The Flying Wombat]

I have also heard that damian Slater is High on the list for the Nth Albury coaching job. He is pretty high up at C.U.B, apparently he is going to take demotion from his job to concentrate on coaching next year. I was talking to a bloke the other day who used to play with him for a club near Bendigo. He was saying Slater turned the club around from cellar dwellars to winning three premierships in a row he got decent coin to do it apprently $1000 a game

Sounds like a very reliable source there Lionel, do you know the name of the club he played with? From what i have seen up here in the papers he has done his chances of gaining this coaching position no harm. Bagged a lazy 7 last week and 5 or 6 the week before. Not bad for an onballer could be a handy asset.

[Lionel Ritchie]

Sounds like a very reliable source there Lionel, do you know the name of the club he played with? From what i have seen up here in the papers he has done his chances of gaining this coaching position no harm. Bagged a lazy 7 last week and 5 or 6 the week before. Not bad for an onballer could be a handy asset.

Colbinabbin was the place he turned around, another plus for Slater is he is still good mates with Gary Lyon from his playing days at Melbourne apparently he often rings Gary for advice.