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murphy2bedabest
14 Dec 2005, 21:29
what are we all hopeing from bob murphy in 2006?
more of 2005? 172 marks (4th in the afl) 33 goals playing chf
i think he is the best skilled player on our list, and now with 106 games under his belt and at age 23 the best is to come. but will we see alot of johnson it murphy? i mean will he play more in the forward line then in the middle for the good of the team??
He is at his best in the forward line IMO - imagine him as the third tall? Excellent kick to a lead or for goal, walkup start to our best 18
The_Bulldogs_Bite
14 Dec 2005, 22:00
what are we all hopeing from bob murphy in 2006?
more of 2005? 172 marks (4th in the afl) 33 goals playing chf
i think he is the best skilled player on our list, and now with 106 games under his belt and at age 23 the best is to come. but will we see alot of johnson it murphy? i mean will he play more in the forward line then in the middle for the good of the team??
Murphy doesn't need to be put into the midfield. Reason being, we've already got a superb rotation. That's for now, anyway. Once the likes of Tiller, Wells, West, Skipper etc. come on and take up the KP's, he might be able to play midfield eventually. But I don't think that'll be for a few years yet.
Probably a class above the rest of our younger players. I think in 2006 we'll see him dominate more games, and further establish himself as one of the best players in the competition.
Might be a big call to some of you, but IMO, it's where he's headed. Had a pretty good year but still has more to give. Should be very exciting to see indeed.
murphy2bedabest
14 Dec 2005, 22:23
Murphy doesn't need to be put into the midfield. Reason being, we've already got a superb rotation. That's for now, anyway. Once the likes of Tiller, Wells, West, Skipper etc. come on and take up the KP's, he might be able to play midfield eventually. But I don't think that'll be for a few years yet.
Probably a class above the rest of our younger players. I think in 2006 we'll see him dominate more games, and further establish himself as one of the best players in the competition.
Might be a big call to some of you, but IMO, it's where he's headed. Had a pretty good year but still has more to give. Should be very exciting to see indeed.
not a big call as i said i rate him as our best skilled player, and i agree, with cooney griffen ray cross higgins gia west......so on there is no need for murph 2 be put in the middle.
and u look at a few games against essendon 11 marks 19 touches 6 goals 2
the lions rd 18 before he injured himself he was leading scott to the ball and setting up the play. and the tigers rd 20 9 marks 20 touches for 3.2
that said id be happy him playing chf/hff taking 8-13 marks a game and having 4-8 shots on goal,with 1-2 bags of 6+
Dry Rot
14 Dec 2005, 22:24
If he plays CHF as many here claim he should, he would be the shortest and lightest CHF in the AFL?
murphy2bedabest
14 Dec 2005, 23:07
If he plays CHF as many here claim he should, he would be the shortest and lightest CHF in the AFL?
i think he'll play across half forward with darcy as a leading/setting up the play, player!
the dog catcher
15 Dec 2005, 05:52
i think he'll play across half forward with darcy as a leading/setting up the play, player!
Isn't that a pleasing thought!!
Gilbo_Fan
15 Dec 2005, 08:21
Eades decision to recast Murphy as a forward was absolutely inspired. He was ideal as a roaming half forward type.
None of our previous coaches had ever experimented with him forward. He seemed to be stifled on the half back flank with heavy lock down roles and he seems to get lost when playing on the ball full time and whilst he is handy at it, he is first and foremost a flanker.
I envisage more games like the one he played against Essendon in the future!
I think he will learn more tricks as a forward and develop the ability to kick freakish goals
scooter600x
15 Dec 2005, 08:25
If he plays CHF as many here claim he should, he would be the shortest and lightest CHF in the AFL?
If he keeps playing CHF he'll have a bloody short career
The_Bulldogs_Bite
15 Dec 2005, 18:47
If he keeps playing CHF he'll have a bloody short career
Why? He doesn't play the bash and crash CHF. Rarely is Murphy in the big packs with people jumping all over him.
Murphy leads hard.
Don't see how that entitles him to a short career?
X_box_X
15 Dec 2005, 19:17
I don't know why you think his career will be shortened, scooter. He isn't injury prone, nor is he a typical CHF. Even if he were, it doesn't count for a lot, considering Grant and Carey played in their 30s. Richardson is also looking strong. Kouta has played just about everywhere from CHF to CHB and in the midfield, not to mention a couple of knee recos, and he is well in his 30s.
I am a fan of Murphy at CHF. He presents himself well and seems to be too smart for most key defenders.
Dog Town
15 Dec 2005, 20:39
Why? He doesn't play the bash and crash CHF. Rarely is Murphy in the big packs with people jumping all over him.
Murphy leads hard.
Don't see how that entitles him to a short career?Its still a horrible position to play regardless of the way he plays it and he will always come in for some punishment.Have a look at how his body copped it this year.He was carrying a shoulder injury and also had leg problems.He struggled overhead all year and was trying to take everything on the chest.I can only assume that this was because his shoulder was absolutely buggered.It might be the right place to play him but Scooter is right in suggesting that it will effect his longetivity.
Gilbo_Fan I think you will find Murphy played a couple of small cameos up forward under Rohde without much impact mainly because they were less than a quarter in duration.I remember him doing ok up there against the Eagles for a bit under Rohde.Such a natural reader of the play that he is going to have an impact anywhere really.More space we give the better IMO.
scooter600x
15 Dec 2005, 20:45
Why? He doesn't play the bash and crash CHF. Rarely is Murphy in the big packs with people jumping all over him.
Murphy leads hard.
Don't see how that entitles him to a short career?
Certainly he is a leading type rather than a stand-and-cop-it type, but plenty of times on the lead, especially when the kick isn't quite right, he still wears them. More times than someone his build should.
skooshtamart
15 Dec 2005, 20:47
Murphy playing across CHF causes headaches for opposition sides, I cant think of too many CHB's that can match his speed and agility
stefoid
15 Dec 2005, 21:14
Certainly he is a leading type rather than a stand-and-cop-it type, but plenty of times on the lead, especially when the kick isn't quite right, he still wears them. More times than someone his build should.
agreed, they will work him over and earn every mark.
id like to see him play a wide roaming forward flank role - virtually a 6th mifielder. could also spend time on the wing, but i dont think he has the tank for an onball role
The_Bulldogs_Bite
15 Dec 2005, 22:12
Certainly he is a leading type rather than a stand-and-cop-it type, but plenty of times on the lead, especially when the kick isn't quite right, he still wears them. More times than someone his build should.
True. But then again, most quality forwards are always going to have someone breathing down their neck.
Plus, Murphy never plays on the massive CHB's. He gets guys like Clement. True he has to do more running and such than we'd probably like, but he plays the position very well, and I really don't think it'd shorten his career. If he plays on a half forward flank, he'd still get the same opponent and the same treatment.
A Forward Pocket role would be interesting, but IMO he's too good of a player to have sitting in a FP if you know what I mean?
I can definitely see what you're saying though. It would wear him down probably, but I think he's that good of a player that even if he played in another position, he'd still cop it just as much. Time can only tell though I guess.
A Forward Pocket role would be interesting, but IMO he's too good of a player to have sitting in a FP if you know what I mean?
I agree, his carry of the ball is a-grade stuff, and when he gets the ball in traffic he seems to have so much time to dispose of it. Anyone who can pass the ball that well by foot is worth having up the ground a little to kick to the leading forwards.
The game has adapted so much lately that there is less and less contests. This game style suits Murphy and is probably the way the game is heading. Having said that I think most sides would struggle to find a suitable match up for Murphy due to his pace and ability to lead up the ground and he is such a natural reader of the play that it makes it hard for defenders to match up on him. I can't see a problem with him lining up at CHF, combined with players like Johnson, Robbins, Giansiracusa most sides would struggle have that many quality small defenders and although he might not directly benefit from this as he would most likely draw quality opponents it would free up someone like Gia or Robbins. With a long bomb option in the goalsqaure I can't see his role changing too much next season, perhaps more stints in the middle everynow and again but I expect to see more of the same in '06 of Bobby Murphy, hopefully 40 goals could be an attainable goal for him.
On a side note I've always thought the more goal kicking options a side has the stronger and less reliant the side seems to be. At the moment we probably have 6 or 7 goal kicking options capable of kicking 20+ goals in a season which can only be a good thing.
jazzadogs
19 Dec 2005, 10:25
murph did a good job this year, and i dont see why his position should be changed
our goalkicking options are fantastic, and we can rotate players into the forward line/midfield, which will increase the number of oppurtunities we get as the opposition will have to change their match-ups all the time