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vanders
11 Nov 2001, 12:59
Yesterday, my first time voting, was a real eye-opener to how much money really gets spent on CRAP such as election advertising.
After i voted, i made my way out the door, an on each side of the door there were three farely big sized bins, full of 'how to vote cards'. This was at 11:30 in the morning.
If theres as much waste at polling places all around the country, imagine how much money that would cost...and what better things it could be used for, like putting beds in hospitals.
I wonder how many of them were the Greens how to vote cards ;)
vanders
11 Nov 2001, 13:21
Originally posted by JUBJUB
I wonder how many of them were the Greens how to vote cards ;)
haha!! good call!!
i was only given one for labor and liberal...so im not sure if there were any greens ones going around
Originally posted by JUBJUB
I wonder how many of them were the Greens how to vote cards ;)
:D :D :cool: ;)
you got to wonder,were they using recycled paper,i for one think not
ive learned from the 4 or 5 other times ive voted i dont need them sheets to help me vote so i walk straight past while others are getting ambushed:D ;)
I got offered a Liberal, Labor and a Greens 'How to Vote' card!
A total waste of money if you ask me!
How to vote cards play an important part in reducing informal votes and ensuring the party you prefer is supported to the maximum.
Having said that I was annoyed when a Labour guy ran 20 metres to meet me and stuffed a labour how to vote slip in my hand. This is illegal but what's new with Labour tactics!
I would prefer to get rid of all these people and have a 'pull-out' in the newspaper on voting day with ever party's how to vote slips printed. As over 70% of Newspapers are being recycled this would be helpful.
vanders
11 Nov 2001, 16:52
I think the best idea would be to post each 'how to vote' thing, in the booth where you actually 'vote'.
At least then it would be right in front of you, everyone is guarenteed to see it, and it would save money
Originally posted by vanders
I think the best idea would be to post each 'how to vote' thing, in the booth where you actually 'vote'.
At least then it would be right in front of you, everyone is guarenteed to see it, and it would save money
Excellent idea.
In time I guess we will all vote by computer from home and the how to vote card will be brought up in a menu.
London Dave
11 Nov 2001, 17:28
you would need to make voting booths a little larger....fitting everones senate how to vote sheets on it would need a bit of wall space, and then the parties would argue over who got the prime position on the wall, etc.
this idea has been mooted before, and whilst it has some merit, probably creates more problems than it solves, i think.
Originally posted by Frodo
In time I guess we will all vote by computer from home and the how to vote card will be brought up in a menu.
Can u really see that happening?? What with security concerns and all....
"How to vote cards" are for brain dead voters. If you have any interest in politics, you would know the candidates within your own electorate and who they stand for. All candidates are listed on Friday in the major dailies in each state.
Chilli Afterglow
11 Nov 2001, 21:04
Originally posted by kirky
"How to vote cards" are for brain dead voters. If you have any interest in politics, you would know the candidates within your own electorate and who they stand for. All candidates are listed on Friday in the major dailies in each state.
I feel I am at least reasonably politically aware but I didn't know who some of the candidates represented. Sure I could pick out Liberal / Labor / Democrats / Greens and One Nation but for the others.... pffft!:confused:
I mean, who the hell are the Citizens Electoral Council? They must be some bad assed motherf*rs (in the Pulp Fiction sense) as both the Libs and Labor had them second last (ahead of only One Nation).
Fat Red
11 Nov 2001, 21:41
Originally posted by Lethal
you got to wonder,were they using recycled paper,i for one think not
ive learned from the 4 or 5 other times ive voted i dont need them sheets to help me vote so i walk straight past while others are getting ambushed:D ;)
The Greens and Democrats ones were recycled paper.
I took some and then gave them back on my way out.
Originally posted by kirky
"How to vote cards" are for brain dead voters. If you have any interest in politics, you would know the candidates within your own electorate and who they stand for. All candidates are listed on Friday in the major dailies in each state.
Some people do not make up their mind on who they are voting for until they hit the polling booths. Also first time voters are unsure of how to vote correctly. "How to vote cards" are a help for a lot of people.
The "brain dead" as you call them are usually the ones who don't bother accepting any then go ahead and cast an informal vote.
Also spare a thought for people like me who stand there for most of the day handing these things out. Putting up with charming comments like this one (from a well dressed middle aged man) "Take your paper sweetie, and shove it up your pretty little commo arse." Or is he the type you referred to as brain dead?
:rolleyes:
TheMase
12 Nov 2001, 08:04
The Brain dead are peopel like my mate who:
Voted for the One Nation local member to 'give him a go'.
And in the senate, he voted for the Fishing Party. .
HMM?
:rolleyes:
Pessimistic
12 Nov 2001, 08:59
Originally posted by iceman
Can u really see that happening?? What with security concerns and all....
When you look at the crap that goes on on 'big brother' and things like that I think online voting would be a bad occurrance.
Theress something you can 'trust' about paper voting.
vanders
13 Nov 2001, 08:53
Originally posted by bluecrow
I think we definately need electronic voting. This current system in ridiculous.
I worked at an election polling booth, and by 9:30pm, when I left, there were 2 dumpster size bins filled with 'how to vote' cards and various other pamphlets. And also the size of the Senate paper..woah. Surely it could be reduced in size to keep those tree-hugging hippy Greens happy? :)
Right on sister!! :p
TheMase
13 Nov 2001, 08:59
Electronic voting may not be such a great idea.
It is flawed, and could be too easily rigged.
vanders
13 Nov 2001, 10:13
Originally posted by TheMase
Electronic voting may not be such a great idea.
It is flawed, and could be too easily rigged.
I was just thinking about it, and well, it would probably cost just as much to develop the system as it would to keep on voting the way we are.
Not blowing my own trumpet or anythint, but I still think that my idea of putting the how to vote stuff in the voting booth is the best idea :D
Try this :-
All how to vote cards are available on the electoral website. You choose your vote and download it to a floppy.
At the booth you have a retina scan and insert your disk which collects your vote.
Now that would be a 5 second job compared with the 1 minute plus if you have to number every box in the booth.
vanders
13 Nov 2001, 11:41
Originally posted by Frodo
Try this :-
All how to vote cards are available on the electoral website. You choose your vote and download it to a floppy.
At the booth you have a retina scan and insert your disk which collects your vote.
Now that would be a 5 second job compared with the 1 minute plus if you have to number every box in the booth.
hmm...i could see that working, except for those 'older' people who wouldnt have any idea about how to use a computer :p
carlton_kid
13 Nov 2001, 16:40
what happens if you dont havea computer?
geez its only 5 mins out of your whole lives!
powerboi
14 Nov 2001, 09:11
I took only the HTV card for my chosen party, and ignored the rest. Then I left it in the booth for the next voter just in case they were undecided :P
Personally I think HTV's being printed in the newspaper is a brilliant idea, newspaper pulp is easily recyclable and usually is. Unlike those bins at the polling places which may be mixed with organic waste and you can't guarantee their final destination.
Kane McGoodwin
24 Nov 2001, 14:13
The fact that we still have candidates posters plastered all over the place 2 weeks after the election. They should be fined $1,000 per poster if they don't take them down within 48 hours of the election. This should be achievable as they all went up within a day of the election being called!
I love the whole how-to-vote handout thing. I don't think suggesting the nonconsensual placement of anything up anyone's arse is such a great idea, but after wearing the inane guff both major parties spew out at us, heckling and threatening their grass-roots representatives (read: stooges) as you wander in to vote is remarkably therapeutic.
Put simply: I have to listen to their garbage, they should listen to mine.
If you do it right and loudly attack one party (I prefer to lead off with the Liberal brand of scum) the dolts from the other major party think you are on their side. When they proudly proffer their suggestions on how to be stupid, bark "As if!!" into their smug chattering-class faces and saunter in.
If anyone still thinks there is a real difference between Lib/Lab - rather than as an outmoded tool of cultural division - you have to do some thinking. Soon.
Captain Sensible
29 Nov 2001, 15:55
Originally posted by Frodo
Having said that I was annoyed when a Labour guy ran 20 metres to meet me and stuffed a labour how to vote slip in my hand. This is illegal but what's new with Labour tactics!
It would depend on how close you were to the actual polling booth at the time he thrust the HTV into your hand. If my memory serves me correctly you cannot distribute polling literature within ten metres of the door of the polling booth.
BTW The Greens printed all their literature on recycled paper.
Originally posted by localyokel
It would depend on how close you were to the actual polling booth at the time he thrust the HTV into your hand. If my memory serves me correctly you cannot distribute polling literature within ten metres of the door of the polling booth.
I was around 25 metres from the booth door.
The group with HTV cards were all within 10 metres of the booth, just outside the door along with the hotdog barbie. It was the ALP guy who sprinted to the car park. I han only locked my car and turned round to see him running full tilt at me, HTV card thrust out.
Probably a 20-25 metre sprint from the polling booth door area.
Originally posted by Frodo
I was around 25 metres from the booth door.
The group with HTV cards were all within 10 metres of the booth, just outside the door along with the hotdog barbie. It was the ALP guy who sprinted to the car park. I han only locked my car and turned round to see him running full tilt at me, HTV card thrust out.
Probably a 20-25 metre sprint from the polling booth door area.
;) sure he did!
Originally posted by Frodo
Try this :-
At the booth you have a retina scan and insert your disk which collects your vote.
.
In your case a rectal scan and Mr Howard can insert it himself (a dream come true hey!!):D
Dippers Donuts
3 Dec 2001, 11:08
Originally posted by Pessimistic
When you look at the crap that goes on on 'big brother' and things like that I think online voting would be a bad occurrance.
Theress something you can 'trust' about paper voting.
sorry...just saw this...
Tell that to Al Gore!!
Pessimistic
3 Dec 2001, 15:50
Originally posted by Dippers Donuts
sorry...just saw this...
Tell that to Al Gore!!
So its the 2012 presidential election and Al Gore is against one Bill Gates.
Al would be happy to use computer based voting ? Me thinks not
Blues_Brat
3 Dec 2001, 16:08
Originally posted by Dippers Donuts
sorry...just saw this...
Tell that to Al Gore!!
"It's the chad isn't it?" ;)
Dippers Donuts
3 Dec 2001, 20:59
Originally posted by Blues_Brat
"It's the chad isn't it?" ;)
Spot on there BB...
(not sure what Pess was goin' on about:D )
In the bitterest of ironies a full recount of the disputed ballots (not the partial recount Gore originally wanted) would have delivered Florida; and the White House, to Al Gore.
Not to mention that Bush lost the popular vote by over 500,000 votes anyway (which means that less than 1 in 4 of the American voting public voted for their president).
Blues_Brat
3 Dec 2001, 22:21
Originally posted by Dippers Donuts
Spot on there BB...
(not sure what Pess was goin' on about:D )
In the bitterest of ironies a full recount of the disputed ballots (not the partial recount Gore originally wanted) would have delivered Florida; and the White House, to Al Gore.
Not to mention that Bush lost the popular vote by over 500,000 votes anyway (which means that less than 1 in 4 of the American voting public voted for their president).
A situation we are used to here.
I have wondered if Sept 11 would have happened had Al Gore been Pres.