NAB Cup Round 1 Team

[missionpossible]

I dont care about winning although that would be nice but it is about giving some players a chance to step up, others a chance to get a feel for AFL football and senior players to be put in cotton wool as it is a long season.

Although I have named Ebert, Mahoney, Cassisi and Motlop in the forward lines I expect them to form part of the midfield rotations.

Ebert, Thurstans, Mahoney
Cassis, White, Motlop
Dew, Salopek, Eckermann
Lonie, Chaplin, Pettigrew
Kingsley, Wakelin, Bishop

Brogan, S.Burgoyne, Thomson

Deluca, Carlile, Symes, Pearce, Surjan, K.Cornes

Senior players not picked to give their bodies a better chance of lasting a full season

Tredrea, Wanganeen, Lade, P.Burgoyne, Francou, Wilson, C.Cornes, Walsh.

other Players not to get a game

Ezard, Willits, Shattock, Ware, Lower, Minson, Thomas, Giles.
This will give the guys a chance to step up and make a claim for one of the senior spots. Carlile gets a run because he needs to taste AFL football because if we get some injuries he may be required to play full back this year.

[oporto]

I dont care about winning although that would be nice but it is about giving some players a chance to step up, others a chance to get a feel for AFL football and senior players to be put in cotton wool as it is a long season.

Although I have named Ebert, Mahoney, Cassisi and Motlop in the forward lines I expect them to form part of the midfield rotations.

Ebert, Thurstans, Mahoney
Cassis, White, Motlop
Dew, Salopek, Eckermann
Lonie, Chaplin, Pettigrew
Kingsley, Wakelin, Bishop

Brogan, S.Burgoyne, Thomson

Deluca, Carlile, Symes, Pearce, Surjan, K.Cornes

Senior players not picked to give their bodies a better chance of lasting a full season

Tredrea, Wanganeen, Lade, P.Burgoyne, Francou, Wilson, C.Cornes, Walsh.

other Players not to get a game

Ezard, Willits, Shattock, Ware, Lower, Minson, Thomas, Giles.
This will give the guys a chance to step up and make a claim for one of the senior spots. Carlile gets a run because he needs to taste AFL football because if we get some injuries he may be required to play full back this year.

Agree with you MP, would be nice BUT I've watched motlop and he seriously needs to loose weight and get some fitness. Cant see him getting gametime in current form (although only half way through preseason)

[missionpossible]

Agree with you MP, would be nice BUT I've watched motlop and he seriously needs to loose weight and get some fitness. Cant see him getting gametime in current form (although only half way through preseason)

This is one reason I think he needs to play as he will regain fitness a lot quicker by actually playing than on the training track, also why I want Shaun Burgoyne playing as he doesn't have the reputation of being a great track worker.

[*PAFC*13]

Ebert should start on the ball and Ware and Ezard in for Bishop and Mahoney.

[Sheeds]

Yeah Motlop is as big as a house at the moment.

Wtf is his diet, KFC:confused:

[*PAFC*13]

I think all the players that are on a 'make or break' year like Surjan, Ebert, Shattock, White, Ware and Symes should be played ahead of the 'older' guys.

[*PAFC*13]

B… Alipate Carlile, Darryl Wakelin, Matt Thomas
HB… Stuart Dew, Troy Chaplin, Shaun Burgoyne
C… Brett Ebert, Kane Cornes, Daniel Motlop
HF… Nathan Lonie, Ryan Willits, Danyle Pearce
F… Michael Pettigrew, Damon White, Elijah Ware
1R… Dean Brogan, Domenic Cassisi, Chad Cornes
INT… Jacob Surjan, Adam Thomson, Aaron Shattock, Brad Symes,
Fabian Deluca, Steven Salopek

I couldn't fit Logan in and there also isn't alot of 'older' guys playing.

[Andre]

Ebert, Thurstans, Mahoney
Cassis, White, Motlop
Dew, Salopek, Eckermann
Lonie, Chaplin, Pettigrew
Kingsley, Wakelin, Bishop

Brogan, S.Burgoyne, Thomson

Deluca, Carlile, Symes, Pearce, Surjan, K.Cornes

Kingsley in the back pocket?!? The return of the bombscare!

Going by the idea of selecting younger guys/those needing to stamp themselves this year I'd have :

FF : Pettigrew White Pearce
CHF : Cassisi Tredrea Motlop
C : Dew Thomson Ebert
HB : Lonie Chaplin Surjan
FB : Carlile Wakelin Symes
1R : Brogan S. Burgoyne Salopek
Int : Eckermann, Thurstans, DeLuca, K. Cornes, Willits, Ezard

Notes : 1. Junior B. in the midfield, along with Ebert and Salopek. Time for guys to step up.
2. Thurstans to get a go at both ends of the ground. If he plays this year I'd rather it be along the lines of Wakelin and Chaplin taking the opposition FF/CHF, with Thurstans the less taxing third tall down back. Allowing Chad to be released into the midfield.
3. Tredrea gets a run as needs to open our first NAB match as Captain - can be rested for subsequent matches. Also Tredrea up forward and Wakelin down back ensure one experienced KPP at either end of the ground.
4. Dew to be played more as a wingman then across the HBF flank. With him and Lonie on one side of the ground opposition players on that side should see a lot of balls fly over their heads from long kicks.
5. White to be left at FF, Tredrea at CHF. Pettigrew is the 'athelete', better suited to that roaming third tall role then White is.

[portentous]

I wouldn't play Wakelin-put either Tobes or Chappy at full back and see how they go. Good a time as any to test them out.

[spice18]

I dont care about winning although that would be nice but it is about giving some players a chance to step up, others a chance to get a feel for AFL football and senior players to be put in cotton wool as it is a long season.

Although I have named Ebert, Mahoney, Cassisi and Motlop in the forward lines I expect them to form part of the midfield rotations.

Ebert, Thurstans, Mahoney
Cassis, White, Motlop
Dew, Salopek, Eckermann
Lonie, Chaplin, Pettigrew
Kingsley, Wakelin, Bishop

Brogan, S.Burgoyne, Thomson

Deluca, Carlile, Symes, Pearce, Surjan, K.Cornes

Senior players not picked to give their bodies a better chance of lasting a full season

Tredrea, Wanganeen, Lade, P.Burgoyne, Francou, Wilson, C.Cornes, Walsh.

other Players not to get a game

Ezard, Willits, Shattock, Ware, Lower, Minson, Thomas, Giles.
This will give the guys a chance to step up and make a claim for one of the senior spots. Carlile gets a run because he needs to taste AFL football because if we get some injuries he may be required to play full back this year.

Using your own age-based logic in 'resting' the older players, I cant seem to unlock why you would include Wakes & Bish in your starting 18 when you could easily fill in with the 'younger' guys like Thomas etc. Without blowing his trumpet too loud too early, I actually think Matt thomas will gate a decent run in the NAB Cup ahead of some of our draftees from 04. I also thought we will be pushing toby to the backlines to try and revivie his fledgling career, therefore allowing older talls at the back some rest?

[Jumbo]

I also thought we will be pushing toby to the backlines to try and revivie his fledgling career, therefore allowing older talls at the back some rest?

I'd be pushing Toby a bit further than that!:)

Mission, I like the squad you put together other than I really hope Chocco plays Pettigrew forward for most of the season, he would prove to be a match winner if left there.

[crazy_big_al]

FF : Mahoney White Pearce
CHF : Cassisi Thurstans Motlop
C : Dew Thomson Ebert
HB : Lonie Chaplin Pettigrew
FB : Carlile Wakelin Symes
1R : Brogan S. Burgoyne Salopek
Int : Eckermann, Surjan, DeLuca, K. Cornes, Willits, Ezard

[*PAF]

I have never been a fan of playing an over the top number of rookies and inexperienced players at the same time, be it Wiz cup or trial matches. Can end up teaching young players bad habits, or rather doesn't teach them good ones.

A good number would be no more than 60% experienced 40% trial, or even fewer newbies. Start off the right way and keep going with it during the year.
Most clubs that do well in the Wiz also end up doing well during the year.

If we then make the semis, go all out to win it. The cash does come in handy.

[missionpossible]

Using your own age-based logic in 'resting' the older players, I cant seem to unlock why you would include Wakes & Bish in your starting 18 when you could easily fill in with the 'younger' guys like Thomas etc. Without blowing his trumpet too loud too early, I actually think Matt thomas will gate a decent run in the NAB Cup ahead of some of our draftees from 04. I also thought we will be pushing toby to the backlines to try and revivie his fledgling career, therefore allowing older talls at the back some rest?

I can see why you question wakelin and bishop in that team

Wakelin - To dangerous to throw Carlile to the wolves for a whole game so I needed someone else to play fullback for part of the game. I dont like Thurstans down back as he spends way to much time with his eyes on his opponent rather than watching the ball. If thurstans is going to make it it will be as a full forward but he needs to get to 20 contests a game. Not 4 in the first 10 minutes and 4 in the last 10 minutes and non inbetween.

Bishop needs to get some confidence back and I want pettigrew to be allowed some freedom to find a lot of the ball on the way out of defence.

Pettigrew I like at half forward and want him to play up forward most of the time, probably good for him to get some confidence touches accross half back before releasing him forward. Also allows opposition clubs less time to research what he does as a half forward.

With Thomas I particularly like his dedication but I dont see him being part of round one and as he has never played against men I think he will be better served adjusting to that in the SANFL trials with norwood.

[PJ Power]

I have never been a fan of playing an over the top number of rookies and inexperienced players at the same time, be it Wiz cup or trial matches. Can end up teaching young players bad habits, or rather doesn't teach them good ones.

A good number would be no more than 60% experienced 40% trial, or even fewer newbies. Start off the right way and keep going with it during the year.
Most clubs that do well in the Wiz also end up doing well during the year.

If we then make the semis, go all out to win it. The cash does come in handy.

I agree.

We need a good balance - the good form of regulars like Mahoney, Cassisi, the Burgoynes, Walsh and our rucks is very important to our regular season form.

The priorities IMO amongst the "young-uns" for getting preseason game time are:

Midfield:
Salopek
Ebert
Thomson
Eckerman
Pearce

Defence:
Symes
Chaplin

Forwards:
Pettigrew (or defence)
White

[nivek48]

I agree.

We need a good balance - the good form of regulars like Mahoney, Cassisi, the Burgoynes, Walsh and our rucks is very important to our regular season form.

The priorities IMO amongst the "young-uns" for getting preseason game time are:

Midfield:
Salopek
Ebert
Thomson
Eckerman
Pearce

Defence:
Symes
Chaplin

Forwards:
Pettigrew (or defence)
White

i'm with you guys - balance needed and regulars must play - and u don't leave your new skipper out!

pj - the guys u mention must step up this year and demand game time with form

[Macca19]

F Pearce White Pettigrew
HF Mahoney Tredrea Ebert
C S Burgoyne Cassisi P Burgoyne
HB Dew Chaplin C Cornes
B Symes Wakelin Wilson

R Brogan Salopek K Cornes
I Thomson Lade Surjan
Thomas Logan Willits

EMG Eckerman Deluca Looby

[*PAF]

F Pearce White Pettigrew
HF Mahoney Tredrea Ebert
C S Burgoyne Cassisi P Burgoyne
HB Dew Chaplin C Cornes
B Symes Wakelin Wilson

R Brogan Salopek K Cornes
I Thomson Lade Surjan
Thomas Logan Willits

EMG Eckerman Deluca Looby
I like. :thumbsu:
Only possible difference is that it would be nice to see Ebert get a run through the middle.

[PJ Power]

F Pearce White Pettigrew
HF Mahoney Tredrea Ebert
C S Burgoyne Cassisi P Burgoyne
HB Dew Chaplin C Cornes
B Symes Wakelin Wilson

R Brogan Salopek K Cornes
I Thomson Lade Surjan
Thomas Logan Willits

EMG Eckerman Deluca Looby

I like this side also.
I expect Lonie and Motlop to both get games though if fit and available - Motlop in particular will be important to us if he finds form - will he be ready by NAB cup is the big question.

I also expect Toby Thurstans to get preseason game time - if he is to be of any value to us in 2006, he will need to find form early, so expect him to get exposure along with Damon.

I would rather see Eckerman in the side over Logan, although there is merit in finding out what Logan has to offer.

Overall though, pretty close to the mark.

[Macca19]

I had Lonie in there but when moving the side around a bit he must have somehow missed out :confused:

Motlop im assuming wont be fit.

[QPower]

difficult to pick the NAB side. Will say that for season '06 we need Salopek and Ebert to play constructive midfield roles. Both have been around for 3 years and played 30 odd games. Time to produce. Can't count on young fellas like Thomson Eckermann playing consitent AFL footy yet. If Sal and Ebo don't step up, Choco will be forced to move Chad Cornes into the midfield as he did late last year. This robs our defence and leaves us exposed at the back. So come NAB cup, I will be watching Salopek and Ebert closely.

[Troy Wingate]

F Pearce White Pettigrew
HF Mahoney Tredrea Ebert
C S Burgoyne Cassisi P Burgoyne
HB Dew Chaplin C Cornes
B Symes Wakelin Wilson

R Brogan Salopek K Cornes
I Thomson Lade Surjan
Thomas Logan Willits

EMG Eckerman Deluca Looby

I like it, but I would move Ebert to where you have JB, move JB to where you have Dew and put Dew where you have Ebert. I would probably also leave Surjan or Thomas off the team and bring in Motlop.

[Powerstufff]

Lots of good ideas through this thread.
I wanted to say things in reply to about half a dozen but in the end I decided to go back to the thread that started it all.
I dont care about winning.....I'd like to. I remember the transition in late 2000 from easybeats to worthy adversary, and which culminated in us winning the 2001 pre-season cup. I'd like to see us visibly 'switch on' again.
Teams that were strong in 2005 and are largely unchanged can afford to gad around. But not Port Adelaide.
We need to become dangerous again and part of that is attitude. I know Carlton's season last year devalued the importance of a pre-season cup but that was just unusual.
....Although I have named Ebert, Mahoney, Cassisi and Motlop in the forward lines.......Not Ebert. He's just no good there. If he doesn't find a role elsewhere this year he's gone. Cassisi is a little out of the box up there but for the pre-season I'm OK with it.
..........Senior players not picked to give their bodies a better chance of lasting a full season
Tredrea, Wanganeen, Lade, P.Burgoyne, Francou, Wilson, C.Cornes, Walsh......IMO Tredrea has to play. You don't drop a fit captain, especially in his first official game. I don't care if he plays Back Pocket, he has to be out there.
Francou and Wanganeen are uninjured 1st choice players during the season if fit; they need the match practice.
Burgers, Ladey, Wilbur, Chad and Walshie could probably rest out longer.
..........other players not to get a game
Ezard, Willits, Shattock, Ware, Lower, Minson, Thomas, Giles.
Shattock? I'll cry no tears and there are other pre-season games. But if I was him and didn't get picked I'd be very worried.

[Power4Premiers]

I think the pre-season cup is a great chance to play some of our younger and upcoming players, especially those that we want to step up big time in 2006. Players which must get full game time (who most of you guys have already mentioned in team lineups) are Salopek, Ebert, Pearce, Pettigrew, Chaplin, Thomson and Surjan. This also includes Motlop and Lonie. These players should be the priority. We should also of course give some game time to new boys like Thomas, Logan, Ezard, Willits and Deluca who haven't had much game experience at all. Keep in mind our aim isn't to win the NAB cup but play good solid footy to allow those up and coming players to get stuck into it. I think also that regulars are essential as well so that the guys needing good game time (ie. Sal and Ebo) can get used to a good team vibe and on field game plan/dynamics. I absolutely spot on agree with QPower that we need Sal and Ebert to play some great roles in the midfield this year and I believe they really can. They will hopefully be our future to help Kane Cornes and Dom Cassisi and replace some of the older guys/recent retirees like Francou, James, Carr, Schofield and Wilson. So here is my 2006 NAB Cup starting side:

F Pearce White Dew
HF Mahoney Tredrea Motlop
C Ebert Cassisi Thomson
HB Lonie C Cornes Chaplin
B Wilson Wakelin Pettigrew (needed more in defence to replace future retirees)
R Brogan Salopek K Cornes

I Shattock Eckermann
Lade Surjan Thomas Logan

[missionpossible]

I'd like to. I remember the transition in late 2000 from easybeats to worthy adversary, and which culminated in us winning the 2001 pre-season cup. I'd like to see us visibly 'switch on' again.
Teams that were strong in 2005 and are largely unchanged can afford to gad around. But not Port Adelaide.
We need to become dangerous again and part of that is attitude. I know Carlton's season last year devalued the importance of a pre-season cup but that was just unusual.
Not Ebert. He's just no good there. If he doesn't find a role elsewhere this year he's gone. Cassisi is a little out of the box up there but for the pre-season I'm OK with it.
IMO Tredrea has to play. You don't drop a fit captain, especially in his first official game. I don't care if he plays Back Pocket, he has to be out there.
Francou and Wanganeen are uninjured 1st choice players during the season if fit; they need the match practice.
Burgers, Ladey, Wilbur, Chad and Walshie could probably rest out longer.
Shattock? I'll cry no tears and there are other pre-season games. But if I was him and didn't get picked I'd be very worried.

When I said I dont care about winning. I mean that a win in round one of the nab cup is not the number one goal of this game. We need to balance getting some exposure into some of the new boys (deluca in particular) and having players ready to perform in round one of the propper stuff without wearing out the guys so that by the time september comes they are a spent force. Those that play I deffinetly want them to come out switched on, the kids usually do in the preseason but senior players like wanganeen just use it as a kick and a catch as they know it isn't the real thing.

As I said with ebert I want him to be part of the midfield rotation and play about half the game in the centre but I do agree he is not a natural small forward, maybe swap him with lonie for a quarter and we can see what brett can do on the half back line whilst seeing what lonie can do up forward. Cassisi in my opinion is a natural forward although he doesn't look flash when played forward but he has kicked goals, I would like to see him play more minutes up forward this year although he should still primarily be a midfielder.

That senior player list I can see everyones arguement for tredrea but I am not bothered with that I just wan him to have his best season ever as he is now in the prime of his football career. I would be slipping the senior players back in for the following 3 preseason games.