View Full Version : Where will we finish in 2006-at the end of the major round?
portentous
22 Dec 2005, 15:23
Ok put your money where your mouth is! :eek:
Where do you think Port will finish at the end of season 2006, including the major round? It looks like a pretty even comp, but I'm still optimistic.
I made this a public poll so we can see what the "trolls" do, not so everyone can sledge their fellow Port supporters. :rolleyes:
I still think that we have a better chance of winning the premiership in 2006 rather than in 2007, so top 4 for mine.
portentous
22 Dec 2005, 15:25
Great minds think alike!! Be afraid *PAF, be very afraid :)
Great minds think alike!! Be afraid *PAF, be very afraid :)
That's scary. :eek:
I better go and have another drink. :D
Pinepower
22 Dec 2005, 15:29
That's scary. :eek:
I better go and have another drink. :D
I will join you for a drink that is.
I still want to think about where we will finish. It is always a heart and mind tussle for me. The heart says TOP the mind says somewhere around the middle.
portentous
22 Dec 2005, 15:30
Hehe. I haven't started-yet! :)
Hehe. I haven't started-yet! :)
It's genetic. Girls cannot run as fast as boys. They are slower. :)
portentous
22 Dec 2005, 15:34
It's genetic. Girls cannot run as fast as boys. They are slower. :)
Bet we can talk faster though :D
I will join you for a drink that is.
I still want to think about where we will finish. It is always a heart and mind tussle for me. The heart says TOP the mind says somewhere around the middle.
10 days or so hols. Bit warm and sticky atm, but who cares.
Bet we can talk faster though :D
Hmm why does quantity and quality come to mind here? :p
portentous
22 Dec 2005, 15:37
Hmm why does quantity and quality come to mind here? :p
I really don't need to hear about your bedroom antics. :eek:
I really don't need to hear about your bedroom antics. :eek:
I think I'll stop on that note. :p :D
Hmm, returning to the topic at hand! I have us down for top 8. I see us in the 6 - 11 range. We have good rucks, good KPP stocks and good smalls forward (Wanga's, Mahoney, Pearce) and back (Junior B., Walsh, Wilbur, Dew).
Our destiny in 2006 rests on one word - Midfield. The likes AT LEAST two of Ebert, Salopek, Thomson, Eckermann, Junior B., C. Cornes, Motlop and Lonie must turn into REGULAR QUALITY midfielders this year. For Junior B. and Chad it's more a can we afford to play them there, the rest time to stop teasing us (or for Motlop and Lonie time to show you can be more then bit players). If two stand up we'll be in the eight at least. If we get three or more standing up to be quality alongside the likes of Senior B., K. Cornes and Cassisi we'll go top 4 at least.
Mitch Power
22 Dec 2005, 16:21
I am extremely confident that we will finish top 4 at the end of the minor round. From there on, anything is posible including another premiership. We have had a great preparation due to the earlier start in pre season training, recruited well, Lade and Brogan are as good as any ruck combination in the league, AA CHF, AA CHB, a solid midfield and some exciting youngsters who will put pressure on the older ones.
It'll depend on injuries, but i think Port will do better better than they did in 2005.
crazy_big_al
22 Dec 2005, 18:39
seriously premier guys i know we all want that but i cant see it happening.
PJ Power
22 Dec 2005, 19:08
I'm very much in agreement with Andre.
Without top notch midfielders (real, pure midfield clearance specialists), we will struggle badly to make top 4.
Top 8, even 6, is possible with more consistent showings and a better run with keeping personnel on the park in 2006.
We have 4 genuine midfielders next year (they shouldn't need naming).
Salopek and Thomson taking huge steps might help.
Shaun and Chad will get roles through the midfield, but neither replace the 2 men we missed most in 2005 - Carr and James.
Until we have replacements for those 2 - it is going to be tough to hold up sides like Adelaide and the Eagles when they get run-ons against us.
Sandola
22 Dec 2005, 19:12
seriously premier guys i know we all want that but i cant see it happening.
Why not? St Kilda & Geelong will be good, but they won't get better. Sydney and Adelaide were fairly cobbled together last year, and won't be able to maintain this year. West Coast still won't have a reliable big forward (but they are the major worry, along with the Bullies), everyone else is still just trying to get up off the floor.
Definitely our year!:D
Macca19
22 Dec 2005, 19:30
Dependant on how our young guys develop....a few really have to turn themselves into good players this year. Prelim final at best. 11th or 12th at worst. I think we will make the Elimination Final and then get knocked out in the first round
Could be top 4, could be 12th. A lot of teams have a lot of scope for improvement, but we know how that normally ends up. We still have an excellent core, with severely underrated youngsters. Shaun will be the barometer.
Power21
22 Dec 2005, 20:07
Port suck:thumbsd:
Post count +1 i guess...
Anyway, i think, like most others the season depends on the midfield but am pretty confident the younger guys will step up and help kane, pb and hopefully francou can have one more great year.
One thing im worried about is if we get a couple of injuries to lade and brogan, we have plenty of ruckman but none who are experienced.
eddie_vrv6
22 Dec 2005, 20:40
gunna come right out and say we will be a top four team, hopefully this will lead us to premierships in 2007 / 08... which i feel can be done!
PowerKat
22 Dec 2005, 20:59
Top 4 for mine. If we are there, we'll be a chance at the flag. Injuries are always an unknown quantity. Our mental application was poor this year and being 'switched on' will make a big difference in 06.
comradekane_02
23 Dec 2005, 09:46
I recon finish 5th or 6th due to a lack of quality depth in the midfield rotations. After P Burger, S Burger & Kane, there are too many what if's for mine. Guys like Salopek and Cassisi need to take the next step.
crazy_big_al
23 Dec 2005, 09:53
Cassisi need to take the next step.
Next step what planet are u on mate!!!! he came 3rd in or BF. The next step has been taken
Sandola
23 Dec 2005, 10:14
Next step what planet are u on mate!!!! he came 3rd in or BF. The next step has been taken
Yes. This will be the year Cassisi officially takes over the "Port's Most Underrated Player" title from R. James.
crazy_big_al
23 Dec 2005, 10:40
Yes. This will be the year Cassisi officially takes over the "Port's Most Underrated Player" title from R. James.
My Oath
GoSarge
23 Dec 2005, 11:02
Hmm, returning to the topic at hand! I have us down for top 8. I see us in the 6 - 11 range. We have good rucks, good KPP stocks and good smalls forward (Wanga's, Mahoney, Pearce) and back (Junior B., Walsh, Wilbur, Dew).
Our destiny in 2006 rests on one word - Midfield. The likes AT LEAST two of Ebert, Salopek, Thomson, Eckermann, Junior B., C. Cornes, Motlop and Lonie must turn into REGULAR QUALITY midfielders this year. For Junior B. and Chad it's more a can we afford to play them there, the rest time to stop teasing us (or for Motlop and Lonie time to show you can be more then bit players). If two stand up we'll be in the eight at least. If we get three or more standing up to be quality alongside the likes of Senior B., K. Cornes and Cassisi we'll go top 4 at least.
I put you down for top 8. I think you're quite steady across the ground, but I dont think your midfield is classy enough to finish top 4. Your forward set up looks a bit more potent with the addition of Motlop, but with the likes of Stevens, Carr, Schofield, Primus, Pickett, Montgomery etc gone over the years a whole heap of experience is gone, and not enough players have stepped up to replace them, IMO.
Your list has enough class to make the 8 - I have you down for 7th.
Sandola
23 Dec 2005, 11:32
My Oath
:D :D
comradekane_02
23 Dec 2005, 12:02
My Oath
Sure, he finished 3rd in a year where many of our team underperformed. Its one thing to play well when you win by 10 goals, its another thing to play well each week. I think you would agree C_B_A that whilst Cassisi is a good player, he needs to work on his game to be a very good player. he needs to be more damaging with his posession.
crazy_big_al
23 Dec 2005, 12:11
Sure, he finished 3rd in a year where many of our team underperformed. Its one thing to play well when you win by 10 goals, its another thing to play well each week. I think you would agree C_B_A that whilst Cassisi is a good player, he needs to work on his game to be a very good player. he needs to be more damaging with his posession.
Actually this year we did not perform that well as a team, but Cassisi along the Kane01 were the most consistent player to pull on the Pt Adelaide colours. He performed during our wins and also during our losses. He is NOW the most under rated player on our list. He deserves more credit than he gets.
I know that you may be a novice to following the footy comrade, but i gather all u mean from more dammangin with his possesion is to kick more goals. I think he does a great jopb with his possesion ATM. I love as all port supporters would for him to improve again on his 2005 form.
I agree that Cassisi could to step up,
BUT
Once he does do that, it will place him firmly on the top shelf. He is just below that atm. Definitely a B+ to A player, but potentially he could be A+.
Having said that, it is not entirely up to him since he can only go out there and do the job that has been asked of him by the coaching staff.
If that job is to tag he tags, if it is to tag a defender and kick a few goals he tags the defender and kicks those goals.
For him to be seen as a top shelf player he needs to be given more offensive type roles, untill then he can only be an underrated player in all but Port supporters eyes, but who cares really as Choco's job is to utilise him for what is best for the team and not the individual. One Nick Stevens per decade is enough.
Longy13
23 Dec 2005, 13:26
Port are definitely on the slide. Not having a crack here but that's just an objective view of where your list is at.
You used to have decent ruck stocks but those days are over. Apart from Dean Brogan who is quality all you really have is Lade who is aging and is more of a forward than a ruckman these days anyway.
Your midfield has been getting slower and more depleted as each year passes. Don't underestimate the loss of Stevens, Carr (was so important to your side and it showed this year), and now Roger James. Francou is old and clearly not even half the player he used to be. Your midfield is no longer a force to be reckoned with. Only the Burgoynes and Kane Cornes keep it from looking like a disaster zone.
You're forward line is still strong with Tredrea but I'd question whether it will improve next year. Daniel Motlop is injured goods and Byron Pickett was a loss. Mahoney has been on the decline and for some reason Damon White doesn't even get a lookin.
Your defence is olllld. Wilson is injury prone and perhaps past it, Wanga's is ancient, Wakelin isn't anything special and either is Bishop.
I could go on but really... would not be expecting big things.
Sandola
23 Dec 2005, 13:42
Port are definitely on the slide. Not having a crack here but that's just an objective view of where your list is at.
You used to have decent ruck stocks but those days are over. Apart from Dean Brogan who is quality all you really have is Lade who is aging and is more of a forward than a ruckman these days anyway.
Your midfield has been getting slower and more depleted as each year passes. Don't underestimate the loss of Stevens, Carr (was so important to your side and it showed this year), and now Roger James. Francou is old and clearly not even half the player he used to be. Your midfield is no longer a force to be reckoned with. Only the Burgoynes and Kane Cornes keep it from looking like a disaster zone.
You're forward line is still strong with Tredrea but I'd question whether it will improve next year. Daniel Motlop is injured goods and Byron Pickett was a loss. Mahoney has been on the decline and for some reason Damon White doesn't even get a lookin.
Your defence is olllld. Wilson is injury prone and perhaps past it, Wanga's is ancient, Wakelin isn't anything special and either is Bishop.
I could go on but really... would not be expecting big things.
Whoa! Keep an eye on us this year. Are you gonna be surprised!
comradekane_02
23 Dec 2005, 13:56
I know that you may be a novice to following the footy comrade, but i gather all u mean from more dammangin with his possesion is to kick more goals. I think he does a great jopb with his possesion ATM. I love as all port supporters would for him to improve again on his 2005 form.[/quote]
If you think his foot skills are top class mate then you are seriously dreaming. Thats one big area I feel he can hurt the opponent. Thats my point, as you just said, you would like him to improve, therefore you think there is room for improvement. Come over for a beer next week and we can talk about it.
Powerstufff
23 Dec 2005, 18:36
Top 8 but that's all I can see so far.
This year we were cr*p, even in a number of games we won. Yet we came 6th. We should hold that sort of spot with decent luck with development, injury, and the tribunal. Of course it is all relative. If other sides improve or have even better luck (e.g. the Cows last year) it pushes us down.
Two main things we have control over are player positions and player development. Chocco has proven adept in moving players into surprising new roles. Dew the midfielder, Chad the CHB. Who would have foreseen those?
dreamkillers
23 Dec 2005, 22:03
Thats my point, as you just said, you would like him to improve, therefore you think there is room for improvement.
All players have room for improvement.......
Players that stop looking for improvement are the ones to be worried about.
As for where we will finish I think somewhere between 4th and 8th......
As others have said we really need to see some players step up into the midfield.........
Salopek it's your time
Chaplin into the backlines which means we can free up Chad to play HBF swapping with Junior Burger on the ball
Two of Motlop, Ebert and Lonie to step up, Dew to continue his improvement and have Thomson, Eckermann take their chances.
Forward line - same as last year but with Primus out Lade won't play as much up forward so we really need one of White, Thurstans, Pettigrew or one of the big boys to step up.........
Also in the forward line Wanganeen, Motlop, Pearce, Mahoney appear to provide a good mix of damaging smalls.....time will tell.
Wilson and Francou should put in much better seasons in their 2nd season after major injuries
Like every season a little luck, the right commitment and effort and anything is possible.......so as I said 4th to 8th (with the right to review during the season......:D )
Our destiny in 2006 rests on one word - Midfield. The likes AT LEAST two of Ebert, Salopek, Thomson, Eckermann, Junior B., C. Cornes, Motlop and Lonie must turn into REGULAR QUALITY midfielders this year. For Junior B. and Chad it's more a can we afford to play them there, the rest time to stop teasing us (or for Motlop and Lonie time to show you can be more then bit players).
Yep, the midfield is where the question marks lie. I just don't think we have the quality. There's a number of players who were down in '05, who I know can get a lot better, but overall I don't think we'll make the finals in '06.
As much as I hope I'm wrong, I'm always realistic when it comes to tipping. Some of our blokes are getting on, and after watching Brisbane's decline last year, I think '06 will be a rebuilding year for us. I just hope to God I'm wrong. :D
Porthos
26 Dec 2005, 10:47
We will win the premiership.
It is mathematically proven that in years in which Warren is our captain, we win the premiership, so we'd have to be odds on to do so again.
pafc4life
26 Dec 2005, 10:56
Premiers.
Mr Magoo
26 Dec 2005, 20:26
Hmm, returning to the topic at hand! I have us down for top 8. I see us in the 6 - 11 range. We have good rucks, good KPP stocks and good smalls forward (Wanga's, Mahoney, Pearce) and back (Junior B., Walsh, Wilbur, Dew).
Our destiny in 2006 rests on one word - Midfield. The likes AT LEAST two of Ebert, Salopek, Thomson, Eckermann, Junior B., C. Cornes, Motlop and Lonie must turn into REGULAR QUALITY midfielders this year. For Junior B. and Chad it's more a can we afford to play them there, the rest time to stop teasing us (or for Motlop and Lonie time to show you can be more then bit players). If two stand up we'll be in the eight at least. If we get three or more standing up to be quality alongside the likes of Senior B., K. Cornes and Cassisi we'll go top 4 at least.
Sums up pretty much what i was thinking especially in regards to our midfield but i've still got us down as finishing as a top 4 side.
Capital Power
27 Dec 2005, 18:16
Top 4 for mine, although I think the comp will be like this year with any one of the top 4 teams a good chance of winning. A lot depends I think on how well Tredders goes as (permanent) captain - we haven't done well recently in games where he hasn't fired. As many others have also pointed out, the midfield is key.
I think we have the personnel. Might take a season to iron out the wrinkles.
Toots Hibbert
27 Dec 2005, 18:43
Top 4 for mine, although I think the comp will be like this year with any one of the top 4 teams a good chance of winning. A lot depends I think on how well Tredders goes as (permanent) captain - we haven't done well recently in games where he hasn't fired. As many others have also pointed out, the midfield is key.
I think we have the personnel. Might take a season to iron out the wrinkles.
That was last year.
Porthos
28 Dec 2005, 10:33
That was last year.No, that was supposed to be last year.
If we finish bottom 8 this year it will probably mean we will be bottom 8 for a few years to come yet.
Here's hoping a few of the youngsters stand up while we still have good "oldies" around them.
portentous
28 Dec 2005, 11:17
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Here's hoping a few of the youngsters stand up while we still have good "oldies" around them.
Much like this board hey *PAF? :D
Much like this board hey *PAF? :D
:D :D