Spelling lesson

[Lonie_from_50]

The newest test debutant, Phil Jaques is spelt J A Q U E S, with no C, like first names of several South Africans. Over the past month their has been inconsistent spelling, thought I would just like to note this so everyone gets it ;)

While on this thread, there have been a couple times over the years that Ricky Ponting has had his name written Pointing, with that i making it like POINT. remember, no I

:D

Also, McGrath, first name Glenn, is spelt with 2 N's

Stuart MacGill is not McGill, it has an A so it is MAC-GILL

Adam Crosthwaite is spelt CROSTHWAITE not CROTHSWAITE

Damien Martyn, his first name is DAMIEN, not spelt DAMIAN

LOL, Thought i would put a couple more up...have fun :p

BTW - Sure you will find some spelling mistakes in this post, just like LL found, hahaha

[LarryLong]

Over the past month their has been inconsistent spelling,

How's the view from your glass house?

:p

[Lonie_from_50]

Thats what this thread is here for

:D

[jagx00]

Thats what this thread is here for

:D

Still, call me old fashioned, but it would be nice if people could bother to spell correctly, so I agree with this thread.

[Jaymin]

Brett Lee is spelt B-R-E-T-T L-E-E.

Not Pie Chucker, Trash Bowler, Pile of ****, useless piece of ****.

Get it right.

[Cassius_Clay]

Brett Lee is spelt B-R-E-T-T L-E-E.

Not Pie Chucker, Trash Bowler, Pile of ****, useless piece of ****.

Get it right.
Again, this thread revolves around Brett Lee for some strange reason.

[Lonie_from_50]

Still, call me old fashioned, but it would be nice if people could bother to spell correctly, so I agree with this thread.

I actually put that's without the ' on purpose, you win a prize for picking it :thumbsu:

[eddiesmith]

Australias test no4 name is Brad Hodge, Sir Bradley John Hodge or Hodgey, no other spellings accepted

[nicho_magic]

Australias test no4 name is Brad Hodge, Sir Bradley John Hodge or Hodgey, no other spellings accepted
i call him mr hodge, or Mr Hodge to be precise, is that acceptable

[eddiesmith]

i call him mr hodge, or Mr Hodge to be precise, is that acceptable
Yes, we wlll accept that

We also accept The Great One

[Cooldude]

Lots of people need to learn the difference between Clark and Clarke

Please don't mix up my boy ClarkE with that baldy hack Clark

[eddiesmith]

Lots of people need to learn the difference between Clark and Clarke

Please don't mix up my boy ClarkE with that baldy hack Clark
Thats the one

When I saw this thread I knew there was one big one that is always a problem

Clarke with an E is for the blonde ********er

Clark without an E is for the one without any cricketing talent at all

[Mikes4]

How's the view from your glass house?

:p

Isn't their spelt like how he has it?

[Mikes4]

Clark without an E is for the one without any cricketing talent at all

So should your name be changed to eddieclark then?

[eddiesmith]

Isn't their spelt like how he has it?

Not in that context

[Mikes4]

Not in that context

Too right.

[Lonie_from_50]

Yes, I forgot Clarke and Clark...

[SBI]

Muralitharan. Not Murilithirin, Muralathiran or anything else. Murali and M'tharan accepted.

Hashan Tillakaratne and Tillakaratne Dilshan. Not Tillekaratne.

Harbhajan Singh. Not Harbajhan.

Lakshmipathy Balaji, not Lakshrhekjandjduisiasathy Balaji. :D

[thewhippersnapper]

It's spelt Muttiah Muralitharan.

Not chucker, cheat, farce or disgrace.

[SBI]

It's spelt Muttiah Muralitharan.

Not chucker, cheat, farce or disgrace.

Bingo.

[Bourky23]

Chucker, Piffa, Elastic Arm, Warnie Record Stealer, Can't Get Wickets Against Anyone But Bangladesh and Zimbabwe, Thrower, Absolute Joke, Benda Menda, No Ball, Dusty Pitches and Disgrace He Is Allowed To Play are all fair names and spellings of Muttiah "Rubber Arm" Muralitharan....god he makes me angry, has anyone tried bowling like him in the backyard? its damn easy to turn it a mile and its unreadable his wickets have no skill or value to them anyone could do what he does with enough practice throwing haha i've had a nice day baggin murali, warnie better get 300 more wickets before he goes

[Lonie_from_50]

I got a good one...several people will get it, several won't...

It is McGRATH...not McGARTH :p

Also, MURALIDURAN , WTF, was that like Australian for Muralitharan?

[embleygirl]

I got a good one...several people will get it, several won't...

It is McGRATH...not McGARTH :p

Also, MURALIDURAN , WTF, was that like Australian for Muralitharan?
:D McGarth lol

I've heard a few commentators call him Muraliduran and i asked someone why they did and he said that was how it is in Sri Lankan. I'm not quite sure though.

[johnnyhoward]

Brett Lee is spelt B-R-E-T-T L-E-E.

Not Pie Chucker, Trash Bowler, Pile of ****, useless piece of ****.

Get it right.
Brad Hodge is spelt B-R-A-D H-O-D-G-E.

Not Podge, not "Mr. 203 not out", not "Failure at Test level", not "Absolute hack whose career is over after 2 Tests". Not "Mr Inconsistent Binga Who Can't String Together Two Good Bowling Performances in a Row".

Still waiting for the apology on Hodge Jaymin

[F/D]

It's spelt Muttiah Muralitharan.

Not chucker, cheat, farce or disgrace.
Cheat?



WAAAARRRRRRNNNEEEYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!


Disgrace?


WAAAAARRRNNNNEEEYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!


Farce?


WAAARRRNNNEEEYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!


Chucker?


LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!

[otis_david]

Cheat?



WAAAARRRRRRNNNEEEYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!


Disgrace?


WAAAAARRRNNNNEEEYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!


Farce?


WAAARRRNNNEEEYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!


Chucker?


LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!Haha Gold Mate! :thumbsu: :D

[peternorth]

Incidentally, how do you pronnce Jaques? is it

1. Jakes
2. Jarkes

[Smokin_Joe]

Cheat?



WAAAARRRRRRNNNEEEYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!


Disgrace?


WAAAAARRRNNNNEEEYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!


Farce?


WAAARRRNNNEEEYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!


Chucker?


LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!


Hanse Cronje ?:confused: btw he doesn't throw literally , but he was a medium pace pie chucker:D

[F/D]

Poor form.




He is dead, what you mind if I made a joke about Hookesy?



These Aussies now....they go too far :o

[thewhippersnapper]

Poor form.




He is dead, what you mind if I made a joke about Hookesy?



These Aussies now....they go too far :o

So you can't call someone who cheated a cheat just because their dead?

[Lonie_from_50]

SO, because Hansie Cronje is deceased now, we can't call him a match-fixer, cheat, "you bet it is mark - 12th Man"

:rolleyes:

[Smokin_Joe]

Poor form.




He is dead, what you mind if I made a joke about Hookesy?



These Aussies now....they go too far :o

I apologise it was, but i think you push the boundaries just a bit too much sometimes yourself mate. You sound like a typical Saffie supporter who is scarred for life because Warnie demorilised your side for the past decade.

[Lonie_from_50]

Donald Bradman is not the best batsman ever to play the game because he is dead???

Same logic.

[F/D]

Donald Bradman is not the best batsman ever to play the game because he is dead???

Same logic.
Hanse died in a very bad way mate, as usual Aussies dont care and ********en arrogant **********.



But I knew you were already. I dont respect your cricketing opinion because you...well...you dont have a brain.

[F/D]

I apologise it was, but i think you push the boundaries just a bit too much sometimes yourself mate. You sound like a typical Saffie supporter who is scarred for life because Warnie demorilised your side for the past decade.
Nah it's ok mate.


If you knew me, I actually love Warnie :D


Just a bit of banter mate :)

[johnnyhoward]

Yeah Hansie's death was tragic but let's face it, how would he live with himself if he was still alive? The match fixing was very shameful and I don't think anyone in the cricket world recognised him for what he contributed to the game because of that.

A sad fall from grace for Hansie.

That said, the 12th Man's send up of Hansie is Gold! (I first heard it when it came out, before he died and man it was funny then) "I bet you $1000 he gets hit again today"

[F/D]

Yeah what he did was bad, just dont like people brining up someone who has died in a bad way.....you know what I mean.

[Johnson#26]

Lots of people need to learn the difference between Clark and Clarke

Agree. Can be very annoying when it is posted that 'Clark' is dropped/included - which one?

Nice thread, Lones. :)

[Johnson#26]

"A couple of players need to fix their games" "The selectors are gambling on some of the new players finding form".

Very funny, but also sad.

[sinepari]

Yeah what he did was bad, just dont like people brining up someone who has died in a bad way.....you know what I mean.

What defines dieing in a good way?

[F/D]

What defines dieing in a good way?
You know what I mean, stop being such a ********.

[sinepari]

You know what I mean, stop being such a ********.

I do not. You said that when also talking about Hookes. How is his death any worse?

Don't get me wrong, it's a sad story, but no worse than 4 billion others.

Australia 2 - South Africa 0. Watch it happen

[LarryLong]

So you can't call someone who cheated a cheat just because their dead?
I think the word you were looking for is they're.

This being the spelling thread and all. :p

[F/D]

I do not. You said that when also talking about Hookes. How is his death any worse?

Don't get me wrong, it's a sad story, but no worse than 4 billion others.

Australia 2 - South Africa 0. Watch it happen
Listen up fool.



I said Hanses death was bad, ALSO Hooksesy....do you ever read properly?


Of course, go bag him, paying out a guy who died in an aeroplane crash.....isnt that like bagging a Bali victim? OOOOPS!


It aint coz they were Aussies :thumbsd:



Aussies 5 England 0 wasnt it? shut up, you clearly know nothing about cricket, so please go drown yourself :)

[Smokin_Joe]

Nah it's ok mate.


If you knew me, I actually love Warnie :D


Just a bit of banter mate :)

Who doesnt love warnie :D

Eddie does and he's a pom.

btw Eddie your half alright, give ya another few years and you'll forget all about those pommies :thumbsu: ;)

[F/D]

So you can't call someone who cheated a cheat just because their dead?
So I can bag out the Bali victims too than?

[Lonie_from_50]

WTF

A guy who murders 50 people in a rampage...and then gets killed is not a whatever you want to call him

I will sum it up!

Australian cricketers might be arrogant, but it doesn't make supporters arrogant, ON THE BASIS that we call Hansie Cronje a cheat, but we aren't aloud to call Hansie a cheat because he died in a plane crash, a bad way, so we got to give him respect. We respect that he has passed on and nobody wants to talk garbage like your making us out to be talking like. Simply, Hansie was a cheat...and always will be...dead or alive. Hansie was a good cricketer...dead or alive.

Come on Protea, settle down and think about it. It wasn't an insult what people said, but it turned out to be one because of your slight contradiciting comments.

Settled?

[SBI]

WTF

A guy who murders 50 people in a rampage...and then gets killed is not a whatever you want to call him.

I will sum it up!

Australian cricketers might be arrogant, but it doesn't make supporters arrogant, ON THE BASIS that we call Hansie Cronje a cheat, but we aren't aloud to call Hansie a cheat because he died in a plane crash, a bad way, so we got to give him respect. We respect that he has passed on and nobody wants to talk garbage like your making us out to be talking like. Simply, Hansie was a cheat...and always will be...dead or alive. Hansie was a good cricketer...dead or alive.

Come on Protea, settle down and think about it. It wasn't an insult what people said, but it turned out to be one because of your slight contradicting comments.

Settled?

Also the full stop is bolded if you can not see it.

:)

[Lonie_from_50]

Also the full stop is bolded if you can not see it.

:)

Which full stop, there/their ??? i dunno, always had trouble with their/re's LOL, anyway, there are 17 fullstops there :p

BTW, your smiley is wrong, I would have preferred the ;) smilie...:p

[SBI]

The bolded full stop.

Back on topic.

Murali Kartik and Dinesh Karthik.

[F/D]

WTF

A guy who murders 50 people in a rampage...and then gets killed is not a whatever you want to call him

I will sum it up!

Australian cricketers might be arrogant, but it doesn't make supporters arrogant, ON THE BASIS that we call Hansie Cronje a cheat, but we aren't aloud to call Hansie a cheat because he died in a plane crash, a bad way, so we got to give him respect. We respect that he has passed on and nobody wants to talk garbage like your making us out to be talking like. Simply, Hansie was a cheat...and always will be...dead or alive. Hansie was a good cricketer...dead or alive.

Come on Protea, settle down and think about it. It wasn't an insult what people said, but it turned out to be one because of your slight contradiciting comments.

Settled?
Dont bag him out.



He's dead, why bring him up and bag him while he doesnt exist?


If I had of bagged Hookes, I would have been banned.






Settled?

[Cooldude]

A lot of South Africans still have a great deal of respect for Hansie, so it's not surprising. Allan Donald still loves him, too, at his funeral he was very emotional about the cheat claims.

He was a great captain and leader for them, the matchfixing aside

And it's actually Muthiah Muraliduran, reason why it's actually written as Muttiah Muralitharan is because when Murali first started in international cricket his english wasn't very good, and the blokes misprinted his name and he didn't wanna make much of a fuss about it.

And so it just stuck

[Lonie_from_50]

It is Sehwag, not Shewag (ICC 2001 Ashes Edition :p)

[jagx00]

And it's actually Muthiah Muraliduran, reason why it's actually written as Muttiah Muralitharan is because when Murali first started in international cricket his english wasn't very good, and the blokes misprinted his name and he didn't wanna make much of a fuss about it.

And so it just stuck

I have always seen it as Muralidaran.

Interesting regarding the source of the 'than' spelling. I'd always wondered about the exact reason. The problem no doubt arose because the Tamil language can be translated/transcribed into English script in many ways, depending on which phonetic scheme is used. Still, there must be a standard way, which may change over time as the linguists define standards.

e.g. In Chinese, Mao Zedong and Mao Tse Tung.

We really need a Tamil translator to give us the definitive answer, though if we can track down the Tamil script of his name, we could probably work it out.

By the way, http://www.muralitharan.org/ (despite the spelling) calls him Muralidaran and since Murali wears that on his shirt I'll go with that.

Also see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_language#Phonology

[jagx00]

More re Murali:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.cricket/browse_thread/thread/8151b7522b1aa734?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&frame=right&seekm=b4791j%241d2m%241%40austar-news.austar.net.au

A tricky business, but to quote:

"He's a tamil and in tamil, there's only one alphabet to represent all the
following sounds: trilled 't', 'th', trilled 'd', and 'dh'. The sounds are
all more-or-less interchangeable, and so it really doesn't matter how you
spell it in English."

[Cooldude]

Yeah it's an A, not a U, typo on my part ;)

[khanate]

Also, McGrath, first name Glenn, is spelt with 2 N's

You don't need to place an apostrophe there. You only use apostrophes to show possession Arjuna Runnertunga's professional level of fitness, or to show contractions in words/terms You can't keep bowling on Mark Waugh's pads....

Any other usage of the apostrophe is incorrect, ie DVD's, CD's, in groups of 4's, playing in the 2's, and so forth...

After all, this is a thread about proper English usage, right???

[jagx00]

You don't need to place an apostrophe there. You only use apostrophes to show possession Arjuna Runnertunga's professional level of fitness, or to show contractions in words/terms You can't keep bowling on Mark Waugh's pads....



Basically true, but the generally accepted exception is for plurals of lower case letters, so:

There are four s's in possession.
Mind your p's and q's.

However, some authorities tolerate apostrophes in plurals of uppercase letters as an acceptable alternative modern form.

[khanate]

Basically true, but the generally accepted exception is for plurals of lower case letters, so:

There are four s's in possession.
Mind your p's and q's.

However, some authorities tolerate apostrophes in plurals of uppercase letters as an acceptable alternative modern form.

I'm not so sure 'generally accepted' translates with 'correct'. 'Apostrophe-splicing' is a major 'accepted' practice nowadays, but it is grammatically incorrect. You only use apostrohes for two reasons: two denote contraction ( you are = you're) or for possession (the ball belongs to Peter = Peter's ball). Anything else is a mistake...

Ignore any American textbooks or anything like that. American English is nothing to set your watch to.

I think nowadays people places apostrophes for acronyms and numbers is for purely aesthetic purposes. It just doesn't look right, especially if you're talking about VIPs or DJs or whatever else. So the reader can differentiate between the actual acronym (DJ) and the pluralisation (-s), they add the superfluous apostrophe...

It is incorrect, however. Only use the apostophe to contract or to denote possession.

On the other note, believe it or not, a few of my brother's friends went along to a one-dayer in the mid 90s at the G, where Sri Lanka played the Aussies. Anyway, the took a banner, made out of old bedsheets, which read "RUNNERtunga", and before an hour's play, security came around and asked them to remove it. How sensitive is that? You can't joke around at all, these days. I mean, 9 times out of 10, Runatunga was being FLAT OUT lazy when he'd call for a runner. Can't poke at anything, it seems.

[Jaymin]

Brad Hodge is spelt B-R-A-D H-O-D-G-E.

Not Podge, not "Mr. 203 not out", not "Failure at Test level", not "Absolute hack whose career is over after 2 Tests". Not "Mr Inconsistent Binga Who Can't String Together Two Good Bowling Performances in a Row".

Still waiting for the apology on Hodge Jaymin

I've never called Hodge any of the names above.

If you want an apology try looking in the thread that you made about me?

That would be a pretty good place to start?

[jagx00]

I'm not so sure 'generally accepted' translates with 'correct'. 'Apostrophe-splicing' is a major 'accepted' practice nowadays, but it is grammatically incorrect. You only use apostrohes for two reasons: two denote contraction ( you are = you're) or for possession (the ball belongs to Peter = Peter's ball). Anything else is a mistake...

Ignore any American textbooks or anything like that. American English is nothing to set your watch to.

I think nowadays people places apostrophes for acronyms and numbers is for purely aesthetic purposes. It just doesn't look right, especially if you're talking about VIPs or DJs or whatever else. So the reader can differentiate between the actual acronym (DJ) and the pluralisation (-s), they add the superfluous apostrophe...

It is incorrect, however. Only use the apostophe to contract or to denote possession.

On the other note, believe it or not, a few of my brother's friends went along to a one-dayer in the mid 90s at the G, where Sri Lanka played the Aussies. Anyway, the took a banner, made out of old bedsheets, which read "RUNNERtunga", and before an hour's play, security came around and asked them to remove it. How sensitive is that? You can't joke around at all, these days. I mean, 9 times out of 10, Runatunga was being FLAT OUT lazy when he'd call for a runner. Can't poke at anything, it seems.


Well, the distinction between what is correct and what is accepted is a murky one. I generally accept as correct what is accepted by authorities like the OED, Chambers, etc.

However, what is accepted changes over time as the language evolves.

e.g. The spelling of recognise used to be recognize.

I accept, or at least consider the opinion of some US authorities, but American English is different. I'll stay away from the Australian versus English English question.

Anyway, the OED is one of the sources for my assertion.

See http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutspelling/pizza?view=uk

The main purpose for the lowercase single letter exception is ambiguity.

To write:

Three s's in Christmases

isn't ambiguous and is clearer than:

Three ss in Christmases
Mind your ps and qs

so, I reckon it is OK to allow this exception.

In the case of uppercase letters there is no need.

Three Ss is fairly clear, and as you mention, does DJ's mean 'of the DJ' or 'more than one DJ', so using the apostrophe there makes no sense.