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sidewinder
24 May 2006, 20:24
Saw that game with a few mates of Fri. Pretty close . Both sides are quality. Watched Saints and Monash on Sat. Have lots of work to do if either to challenge Fridays teams. Question on Sths depth though. Their Twos were no match for Ewick on hangover day!
Let's see how OW handle the confines of McAllister Oval on Sat!
Still, will go with the bloods for the Sept glory!!
The Hunter
25 May 2006, 10:06
Was at the Swinnie v OW game on Saturday. Am surprised to hear from an earlier post that Swinnie didn't show much in their game against Bentleigh because if they had one thing going for them it was they tried their heart out at every contest. It ended up being a cracker of a game with quite a few lead changes throughout the day. OW up at qtr time by three goals, Swinnie up by a goal at half-time, scores level at 3 qtr time and OW just getting over the line after kicking the last three goals of the game. Murchie didn't play for Swinnie, Higgins did however and kicked about four. Will be surprised if they don't provide an upset or two at their ground.
Agreed Warrior, I would think that Swinburne have one of the biggest home ground advantages in this grade, from results they would seem to be a 7-8 goal better team at home. Any win at Swinburne is a good one.
Heard last year in games btwn OW and WB, oral was put on the result btwn the OW trainer and some of the WB trainers. Is there more at stake than 4 points this week for the WB boys?
Would like to know opinions on who would be premiership favs at the moment. I know it was discussed a while ago but now after 4 rounds or is fav?
The Hunter
25 May 2006, 12:27
Would like to know opinions on who would be premiership favs at the moment. I know it was discussed a while ago but now after 4 rounds or is fav?
1/2 Sth Melbourne/Bentleigh
3 Westbourne
4 Elsternwick
5 West Bruns
6/7/8 Swinburne/Monash/Kew
9/10 St Mary's/UHS
My predictions;
1- Sth Melb
2- West Bruns
3- Bent
4- Elsternwick
5- Westbourne
6- Swinburne
7- Monash
8- St Mary's
9- Kew
10- UHS
collinsr
26 May 2006, 12:34
This forum has entertained me no end this morning, thanks to everyone for their posts. I now feel compelled to add my two cents…..
Westbourne are massively over rated, they will not play finals this year. I think their premiership; promotion to play finals has gone straight to their heads. In 06 Westbourne has not beaten anyone. Their current ladder position in artificial and the teams with a genuine chance this year are merely propping them up there while they oil the rungs for Westbourne’s imminent slide to the middle of the pack.
This forum has also revealed that those associated with Westbourne need to have a good hard look at themselves and how they represent their club. They have been slinging an abundance of mud at other clubs for “talking themselves up” and “making excuses” but the only evidence of that is from the West itself. Examples:
Talking themselves up:
“The Warriors are FLYING at the moment.”
“Carry Westbourne up the amo divisions”
Making excuses:
Well their lost to Eslternwick, we heard it all; the umpires were no good, the ground was sh*t and they were missing players (I heard Eslternwick were without their captain and best on ground player in the GF in 05).
Their narrow survival against Swinburne (saved by 3 late goals), the excuse here was that Swinburne has a massive home ground advantage. This apparent home ground advantage didn’t seem to worry Bentleigh when they accounted for a Swinburne team including, arguable the best FF in D3, Murhie by a measly 10 goals the week before.
But anyway, banter on boys I’m sure your entertaining many as they shake their heads and laugh.
On to the real stuff:
It will be an interesting battle for the top two positions, which should be fought out between Souths, West Bruns and Bentleigh. Eslternwick has probably showed a bit in their losses to South and Wets Bruns to suggest they will be there and there abouts. Final four:
West Bruns
Souths
Bentleigh
Eslternwick
Swinburne and Kew to make late charges as they gel better as teams. Will fight out 5 and 6.
Westbourne to grab 7th
The two unis and St Mary to fight it out for premiership favourites in D4 for 07.
This week:
Bentleigh by 30
Eslternwick by 40
Swinburne by 18
Wets Bruns by 50
Souths by 120
Bull's trunks
26 May 2006, 17:03
It would be hard not to say that the westbourne boys are flying at the moment with an average age about 22, would have to have the brightest future of all clubs in D3 aside, from Souths who I believe are quite a young side. Pull your head out Collinsr.
Old Warrior
26 May 2006, 19:32
This forum has entertained me no end this morning, thanks to everyone for their posts. I now feel compelled to add my two cents…..
Westbourne are massively over rated, they will not play finals this year. I think their premiership; promotion to play finals has gone straight to their heads. In 06 Westbourne has not beaten anyone. Their current ladder position in artificial and the teams with a genuine chance this year are merely propping them up there while they oil the rungs for Westbourne’s imminent slide to the middle of the pack.
This forum has also revealed that those associated with Westbourne need to have a good hard look at themselves and how they represent their club. They have been slinging an abundance of mud at other clubs for “talking themselves up” and “making excuses” but the only evidence of that is from the West itself. Examples:
Talking themselves up:
“The Warriors are FLYING at the moment.”
“Carry Westbourne up the amo divisions”
In 2001 OW "won" the wooden spoon in D4 - there's not much lower you can go in footy anywhere in the state than that. Combine that finish with clubrooms and change facilities that were poor at best and an average age in both seniors and reserves of mid to late twenties and the club was really struggling.
Less than four and a half seasons later OW have a seniors and reserve flag to their name, a finals finish in D3, multi-million dollar clubrooms and ground and U/10's, 11's, 12's and 19's. They were very close to having Club 18's this year but just fell short of the required numbers. The club is situated in the heart of one of the biggest growing communities in Melbourne with a lot of first and second home buyers and young families surrounding it. I have no doubt that OW are flying at the moment.
The four wins OW have had this year are against teams that probably won't play finals this year but you can only beat who you come up against.
You sound like a bitter man/woman/child??? collinsr. What club are you affiliated with to make you feel this way?
akkadakka
27 May 2006, 01:24
in 2005 OW beat the premiers st.johns twice, werribee, (who were also promoted), and west brunswick. in fact the only team in the competition the warriors didnt beat are south melbourne, who are a very good side, but still failed to make finals. this all happened in their first season in D3, what more can you ask of a promoted side collinsr?
it is true that elsternwick are the only 'top 4' team that the warriors have played, and that a few of their wins were not all that convincing, but i think the result this week may be a little closer than you think collinsr, and you may just end up eating your words.
take a good hard look at YOURSELF buddy, you are an idiot
Whats going on at the Monash Gryphons this year?
Their senior side is struggling big time yet their ressies are sitting nicely on top of the ladder.
Usually good reserves means good depth at the club, but if the seniors are struggling I am not sure what to make of it.
Can anyone enlighten me on this?
knackers_2
29 May 2006, 08:51
Whats going on at the Monash Gryphons this year?
Their senior side is struggling big time yet their ressies are sitting nicely on top of the ladder.
Usually good reserves means good depth at the club, but if the seniors are struggling I am not sure what to make of it.
Can anyone enlighten me on this?
As far as my moderate knowledge extends, I believe this topic has been brought up in the past.
Monash have a history of running quite a good team out earlier on a Saturday at the sacrifice of the later game - finishing positions in 2005 are a decent yardstick.
No idea why you would want a D3 reserves premiership if it means the seniors barely avoid relegation!
knackers_2
29 May 2006, 08:52
Heard last year in games btwn OW and WB, oral was put on the result btwn the OW trainer and some of the WB trainers. Is there more at stake than 4 points this week for the WB boys?
Any word if:
a. This rumour is/was true; and
b. If payment was made?
OW couldn't possibly be rated a chance if this sort of wager was known throughout WB
Any word if:
a. This rumour is/was true; and
b. If payment was made?
OW couldn't possibly be rated a chance if this sort of wager was known throughout WB
The rumour is genuine although payment is still owing from games last year and now this year. I believe the outstanding debt is three...
It seems collinsnr has hit a raw nerve with the OW faithful with his opinion on their beloved team, which surely he is entitled to and to date this season seem well founded after their loss to another contender on the weekend.
I have no doubt the club has come a very long way and the future seems very rosy both with leaps and bounds made on and off the field however he was refering to the now and his kiss of death appears to be on the money... Time will tell
Talk is UHS have 3-4 good players set to comeback in over the next couple of weeks, and are hoping to shape the 4 in the 2nd half of the year with some upsets.
Some of their poor early season form has been rumoured to stem from Tony Boyce and Coach Taylor not seeing eye to eye on everything
knackers_2
29 May 2006, 11:54
Talk is UHS have 3-4 good players set to comeback in over the next couple of weeks, and are hoping to shape the 4 in the 2nd half of the year with some upsets.
Some of their poor early season form has been rumoured to stem from Tony Boyce and Coach Taylor not seeing eye to eye on everything
I'd be concerned if my team was coached by a man who saw eye to eye with Boyce on anything.
Re: Dimmatina,
I believe his ban was specifically on running for the AFL and not a ban on him as a player. The penalty appears to have been aimed at the club and not the individual - although I am not sure this is the most just outcome.
Hi guys never posted on this thread before and I dont know much about the Ammo's. But could somebody tell me what division Theiry are in. Or even better is there somebody on ths thread that knows a bit about them?
Cheers Moxy
sidewinder
29 May 2006, 20:29
Whats going on at the Monash Gryphons this year?
Their senior side is struggling big time yet their ressies are sitting nicely on top of the ladder.
Usually good reserves means good depth at the club, but if the seniors are struggling I am not sure what to make of it.
Can anyone enlighten me on this?
They obviously miss Adrian "Diesel" Flowerday!
Gone for the season with a knee.Great footballer, demolished Rupertswood a couple of seasons ago.
akkadakka
29 May 2006, 21:03
yeah flowerday is a massive loss, i was at the Monash v OW game last year and flowerday won the game off his own boot, he kicked a couple of awesome goals from 50+ out.
Hi guys never posted on this thread before and I dont know much about the Ammo's. But could somebody tell me what division Theiry are in. Or even better is there somebody on ths thread that knows a bit about them?
Cheers Moxy
Moxy,
Therry are in D1. There is a thread on the ins and outs of D1.
They are 3-3, after being 3-0. Therry came down from C Grade last year.
Go to vafa website, then clubs, and you should be able to find their website to gain info on history of club.:)
Noirman
30 May 2006, 00:02
Any word if:
a. This rumour is/was true; and
b. If payment was made?
OW couldn't possibly be rated a chance if this sort of wager was known throughout WB
In response to a: Word on the street is that it is an ongoing agreement between the two parties since the start of the '05 season and it appears as though the rumour is true taking into account the weekend's result.
In response to b: Sounds like at least one of the WB players is going to receive payment...again.
knackers_2
30 May 2006, 09:13
In response to a: Word on the street is that it is an ongoing agreement between the two parties since the start of the '05 season and it appears as though the rumour is true taking into account the weekend's result.
In response to b: Sounds like at least one of the WB players is going to receive payment...again.
Thank you for this information.
Did you catch the WB v OW game on the weekend? I hear the old grey mare, R Benjamin, is in stellar form, and he actually IS what he used to be...
Noirman
30 May 2006, 14:06
Thank you for this information.
Did you catch the WB v OW game on the weekend? I hear the old grey mare, R Benjamin, is in stellar form, and he actually IS what he used to be...
Well he is one of the modern day greats of the West. Up with the likes of Adam Cannane, Tommie Smith and John Carlos.
Has the resurgence of Bentleigh this year as a real threat on the field been attributed to a fit and motivated Anthony Stewart???
I think I missed it- who was missing from OW to cause them to lose on the weekend?
Jaws141
31 May 2006, 12:36
I think I missed it- who was missing from OW to cause them to lose on the weekend?
I heard your mum was a late withdrawl due to 'general soreness'...
Noirman
31 May 2006, 14:52
I think I missed it- who was missing from OW to cause them to lose on the weekend?
The trainer for one. Must be getting sick and tired of going down to WB.
The Hunter
31 May 2006, 15:18
The trainer for one. Must be getting sick and tired of going down to WB.
Was that "going down to", or "going down at" WB?
Noirman
31 May 2006, 21:35
Was that "going down to", or "going down at" WB?
Obviously both. The "going down to" Park Street, WB and the "going down at" Dawson St, WB.
here are my tips for round 7 D2 seniors:
aquinas to easily account for willi
salesian in a tight one with glen eira
peninsula to beat la trobe well
werribee to smack the pants off ivanhoe
oakleigh to do the same to JOCS
anyone else got their tips?
Feeling a bit lost 'tha man'? Didnt think Danny managed to hit you too hard but obviously still a little punch drunk!
With you on your prediction Suffolk although I reckon the Wicks may put up a bigger fight than you think
Obviously both. The "going down to" Park Street, WB and the "going down at" Dawson St, WB.
Reports are the OW trainer had a strained look on her jaw on Saturday night - with her going in for treatment on Monday with swollen and red cheeks after supposedly 'blowing up a 1000 balloons!' over the weekend at a party...
The Hunter
1 Jun 2006, 16:25
Round 7 Predictions big week for the away teams.
St Marys to beat UHS @ Parkville by 24 pts:confused:
Monash to beat Kew @ Kew by 40 pts
Bentleigh to beat Elsternwick @ Ewick by 40 pts
WB to beat Swinnys @ Swine Park by 15 pts
Souths to beat OW @ OW by 48 pts
Good to see some Footy being talked Suffolk, not overly interested in the goings on between OW Trainer and the WB senior side.
Agreed looks good for away teams, but nothing surer in Ammo's is a Home Ground Advantage, Hence
UHS to open account in convincing style
Kew to beat Monash
bentleigh to hold sway away against Elsternwick
Westies, just at Razorback park
And if blowing a gale, Old Westbourne in an upset at Artic Park II
Round of the year with Top 6 playing each other, season really starting to take shape after this week.
It is early days but wouldn't mind knowing peoples thoughts on B&F for the season
For mine: F Dimatina - Bentleigh
A "fooey" Stewart for the reserves.
Maybe a Bentleigh clean sweep.
knackers_2
2 Jun 2006, 10:31
A "fooey" Stewart for the reserves.
Maybe a Bentleigh clean sweep.
What about Cracknell from UHVUS
An umpires favourite in a team not so successful - hard in packs. He loves the bump
knackers_2 "What about Cracknell from UHVUS
An umpires favourite in a team not so successful - hard in packs. He loves the bump"
Nice pic he could be the new Cannane, the umpires just loved that bloke. You could throw in anyone from WBAFC with blonde hair or the #5 for a sentimental vote from the men in white
Good to see some Footy being talked Suffolk, not overly interested in the goings on between OW Trainer and the WB senior side.
Agreed looks good for away teams, but nothing surer in Ammo's is a Home Ground Advantage, Hence
UHS to open account in convincing style
Kew to beat Monash
bentleigh to hold sway away against Elsternwick
Westies, just at Razorback park
And if blowing a gale, Old Westbourne in an upset at Artic Park II
Round of the year with Top 6 playing each other, season really starting to take shape after this week.
A little hypocritical of you Hunter taking into account your comments on the matter (31/5)?
Iteresting thoughts on OW/SM. Huge call.
akkadakka
2 Jun 2006, 19:14
yeah o/w to beat south melbourne is a huge call. souths have conquered all this season and westbourne havn't been very convincing at all. the westbourne home ground advanyage is a big one, but souths did beat OW at OW last year quite convincingly, and they seema stronger team this year.
sidewinder
2 Jun 2006, 20:24
Round 7 Predictions big week for the away teams.
St Marys to beat UHS @ Parkville by 24 pts:confused:
Monash to beat Kew @ Kew by 40 pts
Bentleigh to beat Elsternwick @ Ewick by 40 pts
WB to beat Swinnys @ Swine Park by 15 pts
Souths to beat OW @ OW by 48 pts
Souths by 24
St Mary's will get over the line
Monash, just.
West Brunswick by 9
Elsternwick by a kick
just happened to catch the a bit of the OW v SM game out at OW, OW very impressive getting out to a 20 point lead at 3/4q time with the help of a 2-3 goals brezze, things started to look bad for OW as SM onballers got on top and kick 3 goals with the wind in quick sucession, but in a geat last 10 mins of constest football telling marks to 14 from OW at CHB and 'jukka' at FF proved the difference as OW ran out winners by 13 points in probally the best 4 quarter display by OW in a few years.
ps. with the 2's flying as well and a small nuggety rover in number 48 proving his worth with 2 classic goals, spots in the senior side may be up for grabs in the coming weeks............
Old Warrior
4 Jun 2006, 19:54
Good to see some Footy being talked Suffolk, not overly interested in the goings on between OW Trainer and the WB senior side.
Agreed looks good for away teams, but nothing surer in Ammo's is a Home Ground Advantage, Hence
UHS to open account in convincing style
Kew to beat Monash
bentleigh to hold sway away against Elsternwick
Westies, just at Razorback park
And if blowing a gale, Old Westbourne in an upset at Artic Park II
Round of the year with Top 6 playing each other, season really starting to take shape after this week.
Looks like you and Gav Flower are the only ones that had any faith in us Hunter. As we have both agreed on before home ground advantage counts for a lot in D3 footy and the results from Saturdays games showed that in all results.
South played very good footy in patches but were perhaps expecting an easier game than what transpired. OW to their credit rose to the occasion for Juck's 200th and gave the club three out of three for the first time that they have played snrs, ressies and 19's together at the new facilities.
Am interested in feedback from the other games played, particularly E'wick vs Bentleigh. Koby?? Mcglede??
sidewinder
4 Jun 2006, 20:23
Am interested in feedback from the other games played, particularly E'wick vs Bentleigh. Koby?? Mcglede??
Saw the wicks beat the Bentleigh Emons Emons.....Notice the D's were missing and so did the rest of the team. Bentleigh were never in it.
Not to take anything away from Elsternwick. They dominated. 46 shots to 13. Including a few posters. Cracker of a game.Umpires were exhausted after the game.
Haven't been to Elsternwick park No.2 Oval to see the 'frontrunners' all season - sorry.
Sounds as if the D brothers missed, but a 100+ point win over a potential Premier demands repsect.
akkadakka
4 Jun 2006, 22:11
very surpsrised with the elsternwick margin, although i had tipped elsternwick to win, that ground they play on is a great advantage and they play it brilliantly, but they are surely not 100 points better than bentleigh.
The demons have UHS this week and then face OW, WB and SM in the next three. Beating WB in round one showed that they can be a quality side when on song, but as mcglede would say, consistency is very important.
Akka it was with blurry eyes last night I read the results on the ammo's website last night of the Elsternwick-Bentleigh game. Woke up in a clearer frame of mind this morning and read it again - still hard to fatholm.
Excellent victory by OW too - they have a home ground advantage for sure but you still have to win the game and credit to the OW boys for their victory.
Good to see one of the strugglers win too. A good win for Glenn and his team. St Mary's are apparently down a few players from last season but they are still a tough side to play so UHS-VU have done well.
knackers_2
5 Jun 2006, 08:59
[quote=mcglede]
Good to see one of the strugglers win too.quote]
It would be almost impossible to not see one of the strugglers win with 9th playing 10th... All the same, I think a solid victory will see the UH VUS fortunes turn somewhat.
Anyone catch the Monash v Kew game? 7 goals is a fair margin for them.
From what I hear, Bentleigh didn't know what to do to stem the tide against Elsternwick - probably haven't been on the back foot like that in a while. Could be their downfall if teams get an early jump on them for the rest of this season
The Hunter
5 Jun 2006, 15:56
Looks like you and Gav Flower are the only ones that had any faith in us Hunter. As we have both agreed on before home ground advantage counts for a lot in D3 footy and the results from Saturdays games showed that in all results.
South played very good footy in patches but were perhaps expecting an easier game than what transpired. OW to their credit rose to the occasion for Juck's 200th and gave the club three out of three for the first time that they have played snrs, ressies and 19's together at the new facilities.
Am interested in feedback from the other games played, particularly E'wick vs Bentleigh. Koby?? Mcglede??
Well done Old Warrior good result for your boys, results have really opened up the D3 division. 5 into 4 doesn't fit so it going to be a tight run home. Results in away games to Swinburne and Monash (will both give a fair amount of cheek in the 2nd half) for the Top 5 will ultimately tell the story. I hope our tipping is the only thing I'll ever have to share in common with Gavan Flower.
Massive games coming up in Rnds 8 & 9.
Rnd 8
Sth Melb v West Bruns @ South
Rnd 9
Sth Melb v Swin @ Swin (they have lost to West Bruns & Old West by a total of 12 points and from reports most likely should have won both)
Westbourne v Bentleigh at Westbourne
My ladder after 9 (estimate)
Sth Melb 7 win 2 losses
Elsternwick 7 win 2 losses
Old Westbourne 7 win 2 losses
West Bruns 7 win 2 losses
Bentleigh 6 win 3 losses
15 + % for double chance
13+% or 14 wins for finals
Anyone else have views?
knackers_2
6 Jun 2006, 09:15
Fair assessment, Hunter. Tough league when you have to win all but three of your games to secure a double chance - and the division between contenders and pretenders seems to be widening. Would be stiff to win 12 or 13 out of 18 and still not make finals - but it's quite possible.
Does anyone know when Murchie will play again for Swinburne? Wasn't in the team list for their game against WB.
Heard last year in games btwn OW and WB, oral was put on the result btwn the OW trainer and some of the WB trainers. Is there more at stake than 4 points this week for the WB boys?
Heard this year that the OW trainers are not only servicing the WB players after a win. Word on the street is that the OW trainers are rewarding their own now with some extra post match treatment.
Are the OW trainers playing within the rules, or are they cheating?
Talk is troubling is a brewing down at WB in the twos. With former seconds premiership coach spotted in recent weeks and the team under performing despite record numbers, questions are being asked...
Mark Harvey
8 Jun 2006, 13:45
Talk is troubling is a brewing down at WB in the twos. With former seconds premiership coach spotted in recent weeks and the team under performing despite record numbers, questions are being asked...
Interesting point "eric", I have a contact down @ West (chris Connolly) & havn't heard the rumblings, From what i've seen the problems are "on field" not "off field".
It might be time for a few veterans to return
Disappointing to hear WB will be looking to experience over the enthuasiasm of youth which has helped them overcome a poor pre-season turn out seeing them now pushing forward as a possible contender.
Are you sure you haven't crossed wires with Dean Laidley, as this strategy seems more in line with pages from the bible
Does anyone know when Murchie will play again for Swinburne? Wasn't in the team list for their game against WB.[/quote]
Understand it to be an ankle injury, nothing too serious and should be back in the next few weeks to terrorise backlines once again
It might be time for a few veterans to return
B Baker looking fitter than ever and seems to be scratching his feet!
Mark Harvey
8 Jun 2006, 14:14
Disappointing to hear WB will be looking to experience over the enthuasiasm of youth which has helped them overcome a poor pre-season turn out seeing them now pushing forward as a possible contender.
Are you sure you haven't crossed wires with Dean Laidley, as this strategy seems more in line with pages from the bible
If the kids arn't good enough Eric..............while we are on the WB bandwagon, amazing that with all the off season comings & goings the club looks in better shape, says alot about the "goings" don't you think?
B Baker looking fitter than ever and seems to be scratching his feet!
That old Leach! Surely he has sucked enough games out of the club - 430 isn't enough? Bring on the young brigade
says alot about the "goings" don't you think?
May well say a bit about the "comings" as well. Should see an improving reserves side as the new players gel with the club veterans and the right balance is struck.
knackers_2
8 Jun 2006, 16:20
May well say a bit about the "comings" as well. Should see an improving reserves side as the new players gel with the club veterans and the right balance is struck.
Speaking of the "right balance", Kew seems to have found equilibrium between reserves and seniors - 6 and 1 for the early games, 1 and 6 for those starting at 2pm. Might be a battle between them and Monash as to who can stack the highest
Might be a battle between them and Monash as to who can stack the highest
I don't understand why a club would do that. Surely there's no deliberate policy to concentrate on a reserves premiership. A reserve premiership would be a great experience and a proud moment for the club, but not at the expense of relegation.
The situation at Kew and Monash must be the result of players making themselves unavailable for the later games, or a failure of the senior coaching staff at the selection table.
Isn't it the goal of each player to contribute to the success of his club through first team football?
oldtimer
8 Jun 2006, 16:59
Speaking of the "right balance", Kew seems to have found equilibrium between reserves and seniors - 6 and 1 for the early games, 1 and 6 for those starting at 2pm. Might be a battle between them and Monash as to who can stack the highest
Wish it was stacking. Kew have about 8 - 10 players of senior ability, they then have another 30 of roughly the same ability.
Kew have at least 15 - 20 players missing out on a game each week. At the moment they are rotating players. You will notice on the website under competition stats that only 2 players have played in all 7 reserve games.
If they could get more players up to senior ability then both sides would be competitve. Being on top in the ressies is definitely not by choice!!!!
knackers_2
8 Jun 2006, 17:18
Wish it was stacking. Kew have about 8 - 10 players of senior ability, they then have another 30 of roughly the same ability.
Kew have at least 15 - 20 players missing out on a game each week. At the moment they are rotating players. You will notice on the website under competition stats that only 2 players have played in all 7 reserve games.
If they could get more players up to senior ability then both sides would be competitve. Being on top in the ressies is definitely not by choice!!!!
Point taken, oldtimer. It seems unlikely that two winning teams can't be chosen from such a wide range of players, but I don't know the situation of the club sufficiently to prove otherwise. Granted the seniors haven't been demolished every week...perhaps there are some coaching/morale issues around the club contributing?
oldtimer
8 Jun 2006, 17:31
Point taken, oldtimer. It seems unlikely that two winning teams can't be chosen from such a wide range of players, but I don't know the situation of the club sufficiently to prove otherwise. Granted the seniors haven't been demolished every week...perhaps there are some coaching/morale issues around the club contributing?
The only thing I know is that they lost 10 of the top 12 in the best and fairest from last year. 9 went overseas and 3 gave it away.
Mainsbridge, Costley, Allen, McDermott, Vechio, Ianni, etc
They have been able to find key position players, however, they have lost their entire on ball division. They are working hard to win games, however, as I mentioned earlier don't have enough quality players.
Seniors will win a lot more in the second half of the year!!!
Mark Harvey
8 Jun 2006, 17:41
The only thing I know is that they lost 10 of the top 12 in the best and fairest from last year. 9 went overseas and 3 gave it away.
Mainsbridge, Costley, Allen, McDermott, Vechio, Ianni, etc
They have been able to find key position players, however, they have lost their entire on ball division. They are working hard to win games, however, as I mentioned earlier don't have enough quality players.
Seniors will win a lot more in the second half of the year!!!
9 + 3 = 12 not 10 gerry(atrick)
oldtimer
8 Jun 2006, 17:48
9 + 3 = 12 not 10 gerry(atrick)
Long day, my apologies. 7 overseas
Mark Harvey
8 Jun 2006, 17:48
The only thing I know is that they lost 10 of the top 12 in the best and fairest from last year. 9 went overseas and 3 gave it away.
Mainsbridge, Costley, Allen, McDermott, Vechio, Ianni, etc
They have been able to find key position players, however, they have lost their entire on ball division. They are working hard to win games, however, as I mentioned earlier don't have enough quality players.
Seniors will win a lot more in the second half of the year!!!
on What basis do you believe they will win more games in the 2nd half of the year Gerry
Heard this year that the OW trainers are not only servicing the WB players after a win. Word on the street is that the OW trainers are rewarding their own now with some extra post match treatment.
Are the OW trainers playing within the rules, or are they cheating?
Which trainer would you be talking about? There are two female trainers at the club??
oldtimer
8 Jun 2006, 17:52
on What basis do you believe they will win more games in the 2nd half of the year Gerry
Because they have only won 1 game so far and they will win more than that in the second half of the year. If I'm wrong write to me at the end of the season!!
Have anyones predictions changed since the weekend's results?
My new top four:
West Brunswick
South Melbourne
Old Westbourne
Elsternwick
sidewinder
9 Jun 2006, 20:43
very surpsrised with the elsternwick margin, although i had tipped elsternwick to win, that ground they play on is a great advantage and they play it brilliantly, but they are surely not 100 points better than bentleigh.
The demons have UHS this week and then face OW, WB and SM in the next three. Beating WB in round one showed that they can be a quality side when on song, but as mcglede would say, consistency is very important.
Akk, not as surprised as Bentleigh! Too big, too fast and too energetic!
Didn't see your tips though.......?
Elsternwick were 3 weeks away from their patch, so obviously happy to be home. The score is correct and perhaps Bentleigh's young guns seemed to rely on the D factor which lapsed them into a false sense of security. No game in D3 is a safe bet. The Demons will rebound savagely against the Vultures, play a similar game to the Warriors and will probably be choked by West Brunswick and................... when they meet the mighty bloods?
sidewinder
10 Jun 2006, 10:28
[quote=Red Gum]I don't understand why a club would do that. Surely there's no deliberate policy to concentrate on a reserves premiership. A reserve premiership would be a great experience and a proud moment for the club, but not at the expense of relegation.
Exactly what South did in 2001! After rnd 7 and safe from relegation,they rotated seniors thru the two's and won 11 straight games by heaps. Going on to win a ressie flag.
Seems Kew have some recruits who won't train, Monash have wiley veterans and a long list to develop.
Coach Kennedy
11 Jun 2006, 11:26
[quote=Red Gum]I don't understand why a club would do that. Surely there's no deliberate policy to concentrate on a reserves premiership. A reserve premiership would be a great experience and a proud moment for the club, but not at the expense of relegation.
Exactly what South did in 2001! After rnd 7 and safe from relegation,they rotated seniors thru the two's and won 11 straight games by heaps. Going on to win a ressie flag.
Seems Kew have some recruits who won't train, Monash have wiley veterans and a long list to develop.
2's premierships are good for the players, but the 2's are there to back up the seniors. This is where young players that are on the cusp of selection ply their wares and try to prove they deserve a shot in the 1's. Agree no one would risk relegation for the sake of 2's premiership.
Enough philosophy. On a different note, I understand that St Marys are 0-7 in both grades. I understand that they took the step up to div 3 this year, but obviously they are not good enough. Maybe yesterday's roosters are today's feather dusters, or maybe they were never reall in the mix for promotion?
sidewinder
11 Jun 2006, 19:39
[quote=Coach Kennedy] Enough philosophy. On a different note, I understand that St Marys are 0-7 in both grades. I understand that they took the step up to div 3 this year, but obviously they are not good enough. Maybe yesterday's roosters are today's feather dusters, or maybe they were never reall in the mix for promotion?
The Saints have lost a lot of very good players from last years list. Those remaining are battling with up & coming youngsters. They beat Hawthorn in semi final and a depleted Bulleen Cobras in the Prelim. to make the GF last season and deserved their place. Narrow loss in GF was poor reward for a great effort!
Now D4 bound, the proud club will probably pass Eltham in the off-season.
Now, D 3 ! Anyone want to back the Bloods?
The Hunter
12 Jun 2006, 15:31
Have anyones predictions changed since the weekend's results?
My new top four:
West Brunswick
South Melbourne
Old Westbourne
Elsternwick
Crikey Dave, off Bentleigh nice and quick. I will be leaving my tips until after Rnd 9.
Sth Melb v West Bruns (Rnd 8)
Elsternwick v Monash, Bentleigh v Westbourne, Swinb v Sth (Rnd 9) will help shape the 4.
knackers_2
13 Jun 2006, 08:47
Crikey Dave, off Bentleigh nice and quick. I will be leaving my tips until after Rnd 9.
Sth Melb v West Bruns (Rnd 8)
Elsternwick v Monash, Bentleigh v Westbourne, Swinb v Sth (Rnd 9) will help shape the 4.
Fair call on leaving your predictions until after round 9...
EWick v Monash - at EWick, so the chance of an upset isn't nearly as great as for the round 18 clash. Bentleigh travel out to Westbourne's ground just this side of Ballarat, and South play on the postage stamp at Swinbourne - could prove to be an interesting couple of games.
Red Gum
13 Jun 2006, 11:46
Exactly what South did in 2001! After rnd 7 and safe from relegation,they rotated seniors thru the two's and won 11 straight games by heaps. Going on to win a ressie flag.
That's after their firsts were safe from the drop. This has been happening from round 1.
MotorBike Rob
15 Jun 2006, 08:49
Rumour going around the D3 training circuit is there is a serious outbreak of jock itch going around South's players. Can it be confirmed that this is just an itch or something more??:confused:
MotorBike Rob: Rumour going around the D3 training circuit is there is a serious outbreak of jock itch going around South's players. Can it be confirmed that this is just an itch or something more??
Is the source on this accurate or do you have intimate first hand knowledge?
If it is the latter, what does jock itch taste like?
MotorBike Rob
15 Jun 2006, 12:55
I am not sure about the accuracy of the source, however I met a girl at a pub down in Sth Melb whose little brother plays for South. Apparently little brother still lives at home with his mum. He came home upset one night and told his mum. Apparently, his mum is a chemist and is looking after the team's "problem". Not sure if that will affect their game or not, but would definately one for others in the division to think about at away games when using their facilities.
FREDWA49
15 Jun 2006, 14:29
Maybe the OW trainers visited Sth Melb ?
Unbelievably quiet from the Old Westbourne boys after they knocked off the Bloods...based on earlier posts they should be crowing...maybe coach has told them to put the keyboards away.
Bentleigh obviously overated by many, you can't lose by 108 points and be a serious premiership contender.
My spies tell me Kew just doesn't have a classy top 5-7 players like most others, just a very even bunch explaining their 2's success.
Monash have done it before...as for this year ?
MotorBike Rob
15 Jun 2006, 16:43
could be. I hope the OW trainer visited the Bloods, after WB convincing win over OW. Given her more than liberal outlay after the WB pumping over OW, i'd hate it to spread......
*Crash*
15 Jun 2006, 17:05
Good lesson in that to always keep your (motorbike)jacket on Rob!
On a serious note can anyone confirm for me that Kew coach Rohan Doherty was given the sack during the week, mainly due to the fact that he hadn't been attending training sessions for a while?
oldtimer
16 Jun 2006, 10:01
On a serious note can anyone confirm for me that Kew coach Rohan Doherty was given the sack during the week, mainly due to the fact that he hadn't been attending training sessions for a while?
I hope you have got good legal advice for spreading vicious rumours like this.
Rohan resihned last Tuesday week due to many and various reasons. He will be staying at the club in an off field position. He thought it best to hand over the reins since he has been their for the past 5 seasons and this year they are playing ordinary footy.
Next time Krusty be careful of what you print!!!
Lions Den
16 Jun 2006, 13:07
Who has taken over at Kew?
After poorly tipping too many away teams in Rd 7 here are my Round 8 predictions.
Bentleigh to beat UHS @ Bentleigh by 60 pts
Monash to beat Swinburne @ Dandenong Rd by 60 pts
OW to beat St Marys @ St Marys by 48 pts
Elsternwick to beat Kew @ Kew by 20 pts
Souths to beat WB @ Albert Park by 40 pts
Obviously threw a couple in there just to get a rise out of people
Agree on the Dees
The Swine should take it to the gryphons
No way the warriors should drop to the Saints
Although a change in coach in most cases can turn things around I think it is due to a lack of cattle on the field and the Wicks should be to strong.
Expecting the same predicted result for the match of the year although the scoreline to be a lot closer.
I hope you have got good legal advice for spreading vicious rumours like this.
Rohan resihned last Tuesday week due to many and various reasons. He will be staying at the club in an off field position. He thought it best to hand over the reins since he has been their for the past 5 seasons and this year they are playing ordinary footy.
Next time Krusty be careful of what you print!!!
I think Gerry (atrick) and you have been hanging out too much!!!
Perhaps you should stick to writing into the Herald Sun complaining about the latest crap article by Andrew Bolt.
oldtimer
16 Jun 2006, 16:31
I think Gerry (atrick) and you have been hanging out too much!!!
Perhaps you should stick to writing into the Herald Sun complaining about the latest crap article by Andrew Bolt.
Boys, just taking the pi#s. Lighten Up. Coach is Craig Horne (playing).
just posting what I had heard oldtimer.
Can you confirm for me that Rohan had been missing a few training sessions?
Pat Bateman
16 Jun 2006, 17:44
Boys, just taking the pi#s. Lighten Up. Coach is Craig Horne (playing).
Is Craig Horne new to Kew old timer? I noticed he has been kicking a few this year, and could have kicked a few more if he had been more accurate. Has he coached anywhere before? I thought Belly might have taken over being Rohan's assistant this year.
oldtimer
16 Jun 2006, 17:56
just posting what I had heard oldtimer.
Can you confirm for me that Rohan had been missing a few training sessions?
Has missed a few due to work, however, generally trainng is rotated between senior coach, reserves coach and assistant coach. Rohan had his 3rd child this year and put this together with his job found coaching to difficult. We all know that it is easier to coach a winning side and a losing one.
Horne is a new recruit, came over here with work and has settled in well. Previous coaching experience in Tassie. Bell will out help on match days along with another assistant coach. Both assistants play in the 2's due to age!!
blueboys1
18 Jun 2006, 16:26
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blueboys1
18 Jun 2006, 16:34
black testing
knackers_2
19 Jun 2006, 08:47
black testing
I think that went out mid way through the last century
knackers_2
19 Jun 2006, 08:57
My sources tell me:
UHS-VU struggled (couple of big names out apparently) and didn't score until laaaate in the day. % could play a big factor in the relegation race...
Monash in control all day, looked like the Swines couldn't work out how to play the second most geometrically bizarre footy ground in Victoria.
Anyone know what happened at the match of the week on Lindsay Hassett's oval? 6 wins, 2 losses and not in the top 4 - it's going to be a tight race to the finals
sidewinder
19 Jun 2006, 20:56
[quote=knackers_2]
Monash in control all day, looked like the Swines couldn't work out how to play the second most geometrically bizarre footy ground in Victoria.
Agreed... it's a trick with the roads on strange angles..Which is the most geo. bizarre footy ground in Victoria?
knackers_2
20 Jun 2006, 08:51
Agreed... it's a trick with the roads on strange angles..Which is the most geo. bizarre footy ground in Victoria?
La Trobe - but it's far too big for anyone to notice with the naked eye.
Johnny0nthespot
20 Jun 2006, 11:03
whats up with Kew? How can the magoos be 7-1 and the seniors be 1-7. The magoos win by 100+ on Sat while the seniors get thumped. Doesnt make sense.